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Wireless charging kit?

Hey all. Recently broke my charger port. Im going over to wireless charging now for my main source of charging. What is the best kit for it? Been looking around for a good kit that isnt too boot leg.
I was thinking about getting this...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-i9300-Wireless-Charge-Touch-Stone-White-/150938457137

I think this is a forbidden topic. There's a Qi charging thread that's stickied and the last post just states that it's not allowed on this site. I think it's stupid to ban Qi wireless charging topics altogether because there's a few bad apples trying to hock their products here.
I just got a Nexus 7 2013 and since it has Qi charging capabilities built in, I decided to buy a charger. I found on the N7 section that the TYLT Vu is the best premium base so I ordered one from Tmo with a 30% discount code that still worked.
Since I was getting into wireless charging for my N7, I decided to look into it for my S3. I bought a cheap chinese knockoff receiver on ebay and while it works, it starts disconnecting/reconnecting after it gets to about 88%-90%. It still charges to 100% but it keeps disconnecting/reconnecting every 10 sec to 1 min with the associated notification beep each time. I turned the notification sounds off while charging until I find a real solution. So where else do I go to find issues with my phone other than XDA. Too bad they banned this topic. You'll have to go elsewhere to find recent and relevant info about current Qi wireless chargers and receivers.
I'd love to resolve this issue as wireless charging is frickin awesome!!!

I have a kit if you are interested..
Warrior 3000 said:
Hey all. Recently broke my charger port. Im going over to wireless charging now for my main source of charging. What is the best kit for it? Been looking around for a good kit that isnt too boot leg.
I was thinking about getting this...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-i9300-Wireless-Charge-Touch-Stone-White-/150938457137
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my suggestion is to get the receiver pad from ebay and look online for the nokia qi charging plate. they go on sale for 25 bucks regularly.
I got one of the earlier Qi kits from one of the chinese manufacturers and while the receiver works really well, I can't say the same for the transmitter...
EDIT: Yes, the other sticky got closed down because despite requests for people to NOT hawk their products, some people ignored the request and in the end screwed everyone else that wanted to keep the thread as an informational source. Some people honestly don't care how many others they screwed over so they can hawk a few sales and blatantly disregard the rules.

I personally use this receiver. It charges perfectly through my lifeproof case.

I use this one:
w w w . fasttech.com/products/1139900
The sticker creates a slight buldge through the back cover but that never really annoyed me. Charging worked as advertised.

@ackzsel
I think I buy the same... Does it charge if you have a thin TPU case on the phone?

R0N7N said:
@ackzsel
I think I buy the same... Does it charge if you have a thin TPU case on the phone?
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Shouldn't be a problem if it's thin. Charging range is a few centimeters.

Has anybody tested this with a genuine samsung 3000 mah battery ? I would really like to find a suitable one for mine with the 3000 mah kit.
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xe0r said:
Has anybody tested this with a genuine samsung 3000 mah battery ? I would really like to find a suitable one for mine with the 3000 mah kit.
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probably wouldn't fit properly. the standard battery with the receiver pad already creates a bulge. the 3000mah battery is even thicker.

Bobby_C said:
I think this is a forbidden topic. There's a Qi charging thread that's stickied and the last post just states that it's not allowed on this site. I think it's stupid to ban Qi wireless charging topics altogether because there's a few bad apples trying to hock their products here.
I just got a Nexus 7 2013 and since it has Qi charging capabilities built in, I decided to buy a charger. I found on the N7 section that the TYLT Vu is the best premium base so I ordered one from Tmo with a 30% discount code that still worked.
Since I was getting into wireless charging for my N7, I decided to look into it for my S3. I bought a cheap chinese knockoff receiver on ebay and while it works, it starts disconnecting/reconnecting after it gets to about 88%-90%. It still charges to 100% but it keeps disconnecting/reconnecting every 10 sec to 1 min with the associated notification beep each time. I turned the notification sounds off while charging until I find a real solution. So where else do I go to find issues with my phone other than XDA. Too bad they banned this topic. You'll have to go elsewhere to find recent and relevant info about current Qi wireless chargers and receivers.
I'd love to resolve this issue as wireless charging is frickin awesome!!!
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I have an S3 that I just converted to wireless charging. I see the same behavior of connecting / disconnecting when fully charged. The display is like a strobe light.
Are you saying that even with the TYLT VU the S3 still had this behavior?

compro01 said:
I personally use this receiver. It charges perfectly through my lifeproof case.
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I'm using the same one. I also bought the charging pad from the same manufacturer and it seems to work better. It only beeps when it's fully charged and that's it.
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Shouldn't be a problem if it's thin. Charging range is a few centimeters.
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5-8mm is the range for the charger to receiver for most systems. I have a UAG cover on mine and it works on both chargers I have. The 1-2mm the receiver bulged out made my UAG case crack though. Case still works at protecting the phone so I'm not too worried as I'll probably be upgrading soon (S5?).
sailindawg said:
I have an S3 that I just converted to wireless charging. I see the same behavior of connecting / disconnecting when fully charged. The display is like a strobe light.
Are you saying that even with the TYLT VU the S3 still had this behavior?
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Yes. If you follow the link from compro01, you'll see the charging base that works with it and it will work as it should. It's compact so it's also good for travelling. I got mine from eBay for $24 shipped. It came in a full retail package with a micro usb cable.

No QI??

Can't seem to locate any info on whether or no this phone supports wireless charging?? Is it possible they would neglect a feature, that in my opinion, should be the standard at this point?

Correct. From what I've read, the metal construction didn't allow for Qi charging support.

Of course it doesn't support it.
HTC didn't tell anything about this so it's clearly an absent feature :good: by the way I'm good with standard usb charges, QI charge is just to show off imo

I doubt it would be so hard to find a feature that is so very convenient. HTC DEFINITELY would've mentioned that, IMO. That's another great selling point.

It just isn't possible with a metal housing. No QI charger is metal...they're all plastic. I actually tried once placing an iPhone on a wireless charger. The charger tried charging it, but gave up and just started blinking.

aooga said:
It just isn't possible with a metal housing. No QI charger is metal...they're all plastic. I actually tried once placing an iPhone on a wireless charger. The charger tried charging it, but gave up and just started blinking.
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There are also completely different technologies involved in this, not just the plastic back cover

Cheap, easy way to incorporate Wireless Charging

I know it's lazy, but thoughts? It's 1000 mA
I've never had wireless charging before and always told myself that my next phone would have wireless charging...
Intsun® Universal QI Wireless Charging Receiver film for micro-USB of All Android Mobile (Narrow-Interface Down) by Intsun http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JIN22JM/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_dlEXtb1VYP476
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That one I believe is rated as 500mA so it's going to take a long time to charge. A 750mA one is better, but it will be thicker as well and the microUSB on them are shoddy. I would like it if someone knows the exact location of the +5V and Ground solder point on the mother board, that would be the best solution.

http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Wir...TF8&colid=3OC2TRSSGA72P&coliid=I1NLS41WJ2XY3W
This one looks like the same thing. Both say "Charging current: DC 5V/500mA-1000mA" but I wouldn't expect anything over 500mA. I ordered one anyway even though my case won't be here for another week.

interesting, if it is possible to "install" it under the back cover.!?

I wonder how long the OnePlus One will take at 500mA. I ordered the same one with "500-1000". Waiting on my case to arrive so I can actually use it.

Hilbe said:
I wonder how long the OnePlus One will take at 500mA. I ordered the same one with "500-1000". Waiting on my case to arrive so I can actually use it.
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I was going to make a thread today on this but I can confirm that most of these are actually 500mA regardless of what it says in the description. I already received the case I ordered from Amazon so I put it all together yesterday and it all plays nicely. You obviously loose the usb port but that's why I did all my rooting and unlocking first. It's plastic so it will likely not damage the usb port on the phone. I have not tested the charge time, will try today and let everyone know.
Originally I was thinking of putting the receiver behind the actual phone backing. Decided against it because you never know if you need the usb port. Also, I hate the feel of the back of the phone and much prefer the case.
If someone can identify the pins to make a direct connection, that would be great but for now it works!

funCrash93 said:
interesting, if it is possible to "install" it under the back cover.!?
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Read my thread here about how I soldered on internally. http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/internal-wireless-charging-t2819398
The one that I purchased was rebranded as 750mA, but on the original sticker under the one put over it it says it's rated for 1000mA. I have a couple of the black ones OP is talking about and they don't provide enough juice to even reliably charge the one. Check out my thread above and the link to my original post on the opo forum. I have a link to the one I purchased on ebay there that worked the best for me.

@inaudible101 - what tools did you use to remove the back cover?
At 500mA, it should take about 6 hours to charge a battery at around 5%. This assumes that you are getting the full 500mA, too, not less.

AJ RIMMER! said:
@inaudible101 - what tools did you use to remove the back cover?
At 500mA, it should take about 6 hours to charge a battery at around 5%. This assumes that you are getting the full 500mA, too, not less.
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Yeah I tried a 500mA one and it just didn't cut it. The 1000mA one works much better. I may hook it up to my multimeter just to see what the real output is for my own sake. I used a pocket knife to get the corner up and then slid my thumb nail under and the hooks pop off easily. They have a video on their website showing that you can push on the back with your thumb and then just pry the bottom but I'm not sure how well that works.

Guys, what receiver do you have and how much does it really output? On mine it says 500 mAh but in reality it only has an average of 300 mAh. I measured this with Battery Monitor Widget.
This is my receiver: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Univ...less-Charging-Receiver-Module/1973302276.html

Has anyone found a 1000ma version?

Is it safe to leave the receiver plugged in even if i'm not charging it, like would it damage my usb port?
Cause I just ordered one for my OPO and a wireless charger from aliexpress.

Q I charging problem

I picked up an lg QI dock and tryed to let the g3 charge off it. Would not work. So found out that the us versions of the g3 do not have the correct back to work on qi dock charging. bought a replacement cover and then tryed to use dock.
the phone would go into charge mode for a few seconds and then stop charging. tryed moving the phone in differant positions and still no charge. then one night the phone charged, but it is intermitant. Is there something Im doing wrong?
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The original back cover should of worked right out the box, I think the wireless charger is defective you have, try another one.

xrepo said:
I picked up an lg QI dock and tryed to let the g3 charge off it. Would not work. So found out that the us versions of the g3 do not have the correct back to work on qi dock charging. bought a replacement cover and then tryed to use dock.
the phone would go into charge mode for a few seconds and then stop charging. tryed moving the phone in differant positions and still no charge. then one night the phone charged, but it is intermitant. Is there something Im doing wrong?
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Qi chargers vary in signal strength and have an effective "transmission range" that is dependent on how thick the case of the transmitter is and how thick your phone's case is, if you have one on it. If you have a case on the phone try taking it out before you charge to see if that helps. Otherwise you may need to look for a "stronger" charger (they should have "transmission distance" or "charging distance" listed and anything 5mm or less is useless in my experience).
Omarley01 said:
The original back cover should of worked right out the box, I think the wireless charger is defective you have, try another one.
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The US versions do not support wireless charging out of the box, as the OP said. I am waiting on a replacement antenna to handle both NFC and Qi, myself. I really got spoiled to the wireless charging with my Nexii 4 and 7...

wireless charging solution thread

As we all know, the new Zenfone 2 is missing wireless charging capabilities, however there are multiple solutions to enable wireless charging on basically any phone.
Example is http://www.amazon.com/BEZALEL®-Wire..._1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1432149451&sr=1-4
It is a cover with a Qi receiver built in, which connects to the charging port and it also provides an independent micro usb port as a part of the case.
The absence of wireless charging in Zenfone 2 is a deal breaker for me ( don't judge) and as soon as an appropriate case is available, I'll get it and the phone as well.
Please post your findings here.

Would love to use wireless charging but using a cover like the one posted is out of question.
I love the slim form and feel of this phone. so i will have to live without QI and other solutions.

This will occupy the mUSB port but would probably be the best current solution.

hkdmjack said:
This will occupy the mUSB port but would probably be the best current solution.
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That's pretty cool. I like wireless charging because I'd rather not wear out my micro usb...but that setup kinda marries you to wireless charging all the time. I'd have to rig up wireless charging in the car and at work...not just at home. You use something like that?

nathan118 said:
That's pretty cool. I like wireless charging because I'd rather not wear out my micro usb...but that setup kinda marries you to wireless charging all the time. I'd have to rig up wireless charging in the car and at work...not just at home. You use something like that?
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Not sure if I'm going to stick with the ZF2, so I haven't gone out and done all that yet but qi adapters are pretty cheap now for both home and car. How effective some of the car ones are though are another story. iOttie has two models out now that look promising for the car.
There may also be the possibility of placing those adapters into a separate case just meant for wireless charging... remove the case if you need the mUSB port.]
Or... if they do release new back covers... get one that you install the qi adapter in and then one that you won't have the qi adapter in.

WHYYYYYYYYY
Why did Asus decide not to include the qi pins in the back ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
>_<
what to do :'(

Here's a teardown: http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/asus-zenfone-2-teardown/
You could solder the DigiYes posted earlier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HI8JYFE) onto the usb board. Or you could probably just jam the wires into the connector for a non-permanent solution. The pictures of the DigiYes are a little conflicting, but if it does have leads for the data pins, you'd be best off omitting them (you'll be limited to 500ma qi charging).
This is of course assuming there's enough space to wedge the DigiYes between the back cover and phone.

ziddey said:
Here's a teardown: http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/asus-zenfone-2-teardown/
You could solder the DigiYes posted earlier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HI8JYFE) onto the usb board. Or you could probably just jam the wires into the connector for a non-permanent solution. The pictures of the DigiYes are a little conflicting, but if it does have leads for the data pins, you'd be best off omitting them (you'll be limited to 500ma qi charging).
This is of course assuming there's enough space to wedge the DigiYes between the back cover and phone.
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Which goes back to my point. Why did Asus purposdely omit to include QI/wireless charging pins on the back? It would had cost them hardly anything extra at all, and users could just have changed back cover to get wireless charging...

That one http://www.amazon.com/BLUBOON-Unive...2630&sr=8-2&keywords=qi+wireless+charger+1000 is 1000mA, if it does make a difference. But a case integrated receiver would be much better solution, if ever.

olegy said:
That one http://www.amazon.com/BLUBOON-Unive...2630&sr=8-2&keywords=qi+wireless+charger+1000 is 1000mA, if it does make a difference. But a case integrated receiver would be much better solution, if ever.
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I bought that model. I have a Qi charger (used with a Nexus 5) hooked up to a 2A USB Adapter, and it barely charges the Zenfone. I do not recommend. Maybe a 2A receiver would work better.

It's ridiculous.... why did asus decide not to offer a wireless charging solution similar to the previous samsung galaxies/lg.
Have the pins for charging on the back, and let the user change the case to a qi receiver case or add a qi receiver pad inside. this is honestly the only thing that disappoints on this phone (((((((((((((

ziddey said:
Here's a teardown: http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/asus-zenfone-2-teardown/
You could solder the DigiYes posted earlier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HI8JYFE) onto the usb board. Or you could probably just jam the wires into the connector for a non-permanent solution. The pictures of the DigiYes are a little conflicting, but if it does have leads for the data pins, you'd be best off omitting them (you'll be limited to 500ma qi charging).
This is of course assuming there's enough space to wedge the DigiYes between the back cover and phone.
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I just received mine and there is enough space in the back cover for the receiver to fit in, albeit with a small bulge. It does show my phone as charging even when just held up to my Moto 360 cradle; whether or not it's charging, however, I have no idea.

raynan said:
I just received mine and there is enough space in the back cover for the receiver to fit in, albeit with a small bulge. It does show my phone as charging even when just held up to my Moto 360 cradle; whether or not it's charging, however, I have no idea.
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Thanks for trying. Did you actually solder or just plug it in the usb port? If you plugged it in the usb port, does the cover close without damaging the cable?
I'm asking because if that works, we could potentially design a slightly thicker but hollow back case that could hold NFC and the wireless receive without unnatural bulges.

ameel said:
Thanks for trying. Did you actually solder or just plug it in the usb port? If you plugged it in the usb port, does the cover close without damaging the cable?
I'm asking because if that works, we could potentially design a slightly thicker but hollow back case that could hold NFC and the wireless receive without unnatural bulges.
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It closes fine but there is a bulge and the cover is left slightly open.
Here's my solution. Doesn't look good but functional.

don't judge
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Yeah I judge, wireless charging its just another feature. A small battery, a slow processor or low memory now that's a real deal-breaker since your phone wont last a day, apps will run like hell and you will always have to micromanage just for things to run properly.
I'm way more pissed off at this phone not having a removable battery, not just because its a real deal-breaker during travel where I will be forced to lug around one of those brickish power banks but because Li-ION batteries have the lifespan of a mosquito. I already had 2 phones like that and the result was always a massive pain in the ass to deal with.
I rather buy a case with an extra battery than this thing

Three pins USB Board?
Hi there
Maybe some one knows, what are those three pins on the USB board, that are accessible without disassembly phone?? That should be connectors to charging instead of usb socket?

I have a qi charger built into my car. I do not like aftermarket charger added to the phone. So this is a deal breaker for me and will not consider any phones without buildin qi charger.

Looking to buy this phone and own a quick charging card like this. Is it possible to slip the card under the back cover (without a case) or will it cause it to bulge in too unsightly a manner?
dud89 said:
It closes fine but there is a bulge and the cover is left slightly open.
Here's my solution. Doesn't look good but functional.
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Slooop said:
Looking to buy this phone and own a quick charging card like this. Is it possible to slip the card under the back cover (without a case) or will it cause it to bulge in too unsightly a manner?
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It can but causes a gap near the usb port that I could not close. I would've run it inside if it didn't do that.

dud89 said:
It closes fine but there is a bulge and the cover is left slightly open.
Here's my solution. Doesn't look good but functional.
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Great Idea.
The speed of charge is 350 MAH ?? Is to slowly (USB PC charge normally 550 MAH)