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First off, hi all. i am a common android rom/app developer who is looking to get a new device to flash and flash non-stop
well, i will be getting the nexus 7 in aproximately 1 month..
i had been searching for long for a good tablet and this one looked amazing, it's high resolution in just 7" inch looks like the best hd tablet. and its quadcore 1.5 GHZ qualcomm processor with the amazing 2 GB ram looks pretty good..
i need opinions from you guys, owners of the nexus 7 2013.
well, lets get started,.
A) is this a good gaming tablet? good graphics? low / high frames?
B) as this is a newly device, i am amazed to become a developer for this, but.. should i? i mean, there arent many tools for nexus 7 and i only know C++ coding, should i get this or an elder tablet with a strong community (as this is xda-developers)?
C) wich are the advantages of having a nexus device? i mean, wich makes it superior than touchwiz or xperia?
D) does the battery last for long? the HD and the processor makes me thing the battery drain is high. but, you are the owner of the tablet, you tell me.
please sorry me for the bad english..
hope you can help me.. thanks in advance guys. :good:
A) is this a good gaming tablet? good graphics? low / high frames?
Not sure, I haven't done much gaming on it so I can't really tell.
B) as this is a newly device, i am amazed to become a developer for this, but.. should i? i mean, there arent many tools for nexus 7 and i only know C++ coding, should i get this or an elder tablet with a strong community (as this is xda-developers)?
I'm not a developer so I can't answer. Although I always read Nexus devices are very developer friendly.
C) wich are the advantages of having a nexus device? i mean, wich makes it superior than touchwiz or xperia?
You get Google updates immediately with Nexus devices. On Touchwiz, Xperia, or Sense, you have to wait until Samsung, Sony, or HTC make their own version of the updates and apply it to their own version of Android.
This can take several months. Which is why some people prefer Nexus devices.
D) does the battery last for long? the HD and the processor makes me thing the battery drain is high. but, you are the owner of the tablet, you tell me.
It depends on the user and tweaks the user applies. I'm stock rooted and I usually get 24-26hrs of standby time and 8hrs of screen time. I'm sure with a different kernal I could get a lot more if I wanted.
It's a great device. I've had it for a week and half, I've had absolutely no issues with it. I purchased the 32gb version and I have no regrets.
Good luck with your developing.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
I've been having a few problems with my tablet lately, namely software bugs (I made a post about this earlier) like ghost clicks that occur in the far corners, and crashes to reboot or apps simply not launching.
Apart from that however, the tablet seems to function exceptionally. The screen is nice but the black levels leave something to be desired, color reproduction is pretty good too. (and obviously resolution is second to none at this moment for 7" tablets)
IXChicharitoXI said:
A) is this a good gaming tablet? good graphics? low / high frames?
Not sure, I haven't done much gaming on it so I can't really tell.
B) as this is a newly device, i am amazed to become a developer for this, but.. should i? i mean, there arent many tools for nexus 7 and i only know C++ coding, should i get this or an elder tablet with a strong community (as this is xda-developers)?
I'm not a developer so I can't answer. Although I always read Nexus devices are very developer friendly.
C) wich are the advantages of having a nexus device? i mean, wich makes it superior than touchwiz or xperia?
You get Google updates immediately with Nexus devices. On Touchwiz, Xperia, or Sense, you have to wait until Samsung, Sony, or HTC make their own version of the updates and apply it to their own version of Android.
This can take several months. Which is why some people prefer Nexus devices.
D) does the battery last for long? the HD and the processor makes me thing the battery drain is high. but, you are the owner of the tablet, you tell me.
It depends on the user and tweaks the user applies. I'm stock rooted and I usually get 24-26hrs of standby time and 8hrs of screen time. I'm sure with a different kernal I could get a lot more if I wanted.
It's a great device. I've had it for a week and half, I've had absolutely no issues with it. I purchased the 32gb version and I have no regrets.
Good luck with your developing.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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thanks for your answer, i am 100% sure i will get this device i just saw a few threads, there is already root-tutorial and with roms working, so when i get it i will give a try.
will be strange to develop for unlocked bl roms since with mi phone i can only develop locked roms. i will try to port ubuntu touch for this tablet.
A) I've been playing games like Le Vamp and I've noticed no slowdowns. thing is though, I use it mainly for reading, books, textbooks, comics, so now much experience on the gaming front.
B) sounds like a personal choice to me
C) once again, personal choice
D) with about 1-2 hours of reading a day, it lasts me about 5 days before the battery is completely dead.
Nachospeicys said:
thanks for your answer, i am 100% sure i will get this device i just saw a few threads, there is already root-tutorial and with roms working, so when i get it i will give a try.
will be strange to develop for unlocked bl roms since with mi phone i can only develop locked roms. i will try to port ubuntu touch for this tablet.
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Just got this device. Was very curious to see if Ubuntu Touch is/will be supported on it. I'm definitely interested if you get this going.
I'll keep my hopes up. It's a Nexus after all.
A. I don't game, but I hear it's got a great GPU, so I believe it should be really nice for gaming.
B. No idea what you mean.
C. Stock Android seems smoother, less cluttered, and less confusing. Nexus devices will be the first to get new Android updates.
D. Battery life seems really good, I easily get through a day on a charge. Idle battery life is good for Android (never met an Android tablet that is as good as my iPad). Though Google Services seems to spend a lot of time waking up my tablet when it should be sleeping. I loose about 3% battery life an hour which seems a bit high, even for Android. I don't think everyone has this problem and it may be related to rooting or something. I've been too lazy to factory reset to troubleshoot the problem though. Even with the idle drain, the battery life overall is still pretty good.
I've been really happy with my Nexus 7, other than a little issue with idle battery drain from Google Services, I've not had any other issues. The build quality is much better this time. I've not had a single random reboot. And I'm not even sure what the multi-touch issues are about since I've not noticed anything odd on mine. The screen looks great, the colors are calibrated. The speakers sounds really good. Pretty much everything is positive.
Nachospeicys said:
B) as this is a newly device, i am amazed to become a developer for this, but.. should i? i mean, there arent many tools for nexus 7 and i only know C++ coding, should i get this or an elder tablet with a strong community (as this is xda-developers)?
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It's Android, the standard development toolchain for all other Android devices work fine on it and it's pretty mature and well supported. If you're a C++ dev you may want to get onto the NDK but frankly Java isn't exactly a massive leap to work with and unless you're massively processor-bound or planning to port widely I think you're better off just using the basic Java SDK until you get up to speed on the OS.
Simple answer : read through this before purchasing...
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If, after reading the 460+ posts you're feeling lucky (as the vast majority of owners are) go ahead and purchase.
Just be sure to purchase from a place that has the best return/exchange policy.
I speak from unfortunate first hand experience....
A) is this a good gaming tablet? good graphics? low / high frames?
Oh, yeah. It's perfect for gaming, I've thrown all the games I got at this thing and it runs them at full speed in 1080p. Performance is superb.
B) as this is a newly device, i am amazed to become a developer for this, but.. should i? i mean, there arent many tools for nexus 7 and i only know C++ coding, should i get this or an elder tablet with a strong community (as this is xda-developers)?
Get this one, for the horsepower, these are selling a lot right now and the community will grow quick like it did with the S4
C) wich are the advantages of having a nexus device? i mean, wich makes it superior than touchwiz or xperia?
This is my first nexus device, and what I like about it is that there is no bloat ware, it feels faster software wise and lighter. It starts up quickly and the performance is amazing. Updates are quick too, no need to wait for the slow updates from the carriers.
D) does the battery last for long? the HD and the processor makes me thing the battery drain is high. but, you are the owner of the tablet, you tell me.
I'm getting about 11 to 12 hours on a single charge, but that's different for everybody, it depends on the user
The Kindle Fire HD 2 will be a major 7 inch tablet contender. I'm looking forward to what it will bring with the redesign, Snapdragon 800 CPU and ROMs that will take advantage of it.
No regrets here in the purchase of the Nexus 7 2013. I was using a Lenovo A2107 and the speed difference is remarkable. It seems that the Nexus for $229 is a great deal, fully supported by Google (who will rule the world in the future) and it performs almost perfectly out of the box. It has many options built in like Qi charging, Bluetooth mouse/keyboard support in addition to BT audio. Great for Netflix. The WiFi is great, picks up weak signals that work fairly well. All in all, a very solid purchase. My Poetic Slimline case arrives tomorrow, looking forward to it to protect the glass since I don't like thick screen protector films. The screen glass seems somehow to not get all greased up like the old Lenovo. I'm very pleased with this inexpensive device. I spent over $1000 building a Windows desktop for work but I find myself using the Nexus for email, some browsing, and apps like timer, alarm clock, as well as watching movies. One drawback - lack of a SD socket - is overcome by using several online "cloud" free storage as long as WiFi is available - which in this town is everywhere....
Rob
robk2544 said:
One drawback - lack of a SD socket - is overcome by using several online "cloud" free storage as long as WiFi is available - which in this town is everywhere...
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This can be mitigated somewhat by using an OTG cable plus a portable SD reader (or just a plain 'ol USB flash drive). Admittedly it is not QUITE as convenient as having a built in slot, but you can still easily put all your media/documents on it and not chew up space on the emulated SD drive.
PJ Clifford said:
This can be mitigated somewhat by using an OTG cable plus a portable SD reader (or just a plain 'ol USB flash drive). Admittedly it is not QUITE as convenient as having a built in slot, but you can still easily put all your media/documents on it and not chew up space on the emulated SD drive.
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Yeah, kinda clumsy but definitely a solution. I'm just so used to SD slots back from the Palm T|X days. Have you seen the little one by meenova.com ? Small but I'd hate to snap it off by accident.
Rob
robk2544 said:
Yeah, kinda clumsy but definitely a solution. I'm just so used to SD slots back from the Palm T|X days. Have you seen the little one by meenova.com ? Small but I'd hate to snap it off by accident.
Rob
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Yeah, I can't see the reason for not including at least a MicroSD slot. The hardware cost would be minimal. Of course, I've not opened one up, so it may just be out of real estate on the inside. Google does seen to eschew them.
Yup, saw those. I would consider it, but the only form of payment they take is credit cards, which I can't do for the moment. I'm not sure that I don't prefer a short OTG cable anyway. While it dangles, it seems to be much harder to snap one off as most of the bulk is at the other end of the cable.
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I'm not sure that I don't prefer a short OTG cable anyway. While it dangles, it seems to be much harder to snap one off as most of the bulk is at the other end of the cable.
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I see your point. The little meenova one just looks like it would be fragile and possibly damage the micro-usb socket on the tablet if you bump it. I'll probably go with a short cable - then I can use SD or sticks, with an adapter.
As this is my first tablet I can not compare to other ones. But to answer your questions
A) Gaming is great. Loads games fast. Compared to my Galaxy Nexus. Graphics and Display are great.
B) I am not a developer so I can not answer this.
C) I love close to vanilla android. I do root my devices and usually run CM.
D) Battery is great for me. I watched the hobbit the other day and went from 100% to just 90%. That is only 10% in a almost 3 hour movie. Gaming also gives me close the same battery type life.
Thanks guys, i got lots of answers, that means this is an active & friendly space, wich makes me happy.
i will use this for gaming,reading and waching movies in high definiton, also anyone has tried the HDMI ?
Nachospeicys said:
Thanks guys, i got lots of answers, that means this is an active & friendly space, wich makes me happy.
i will use this for gaming,reading and waching movies in high definiton, also anyone has tried the HDMI ?
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The only downside I have with the device is the glare on the screen. I have not tried the HDMI but want to know how good it works.
No regrets here.
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)
Thinking about getting one of these 32gb refurbished. Would you buy it again? Most of the reviews talk about laggy performance. Did the updates fix it at all?
Battery life decent? Torn between this and an iPad Air. I am experienced with both iOS and Android, so I understand the differences. Laggy Androids piss me off, but if they are smooth like my LG G2, then I have no problems with them. My iPad 3 on IOS 7 got too laggy, drives me insane.. selling it off.
if you are not happy with your ipad for lagginess then dont even bother buying, rooting helps but no where smooth as ipad2&3 on ios 7.1, especially on chrome and handling pdf & xls & docx. General UI lagginess is expected to be fixed with an update.
I own a TMO LG G2 so I may be able to give you a reference point. The G2 is damn smooth in EVERYTHING. You know that. This tablet is not smooth everywhere, its just not. But it is damn close in *most* areas.
Here's the breakdown. TouchWiz is the only somewhat laggy part of this tablet. I personally don't spend much time within TouchWiz, because most of my time is within an app. Inside apps, this thing flies very nearly as fast as the G2. Impressive, given the higher res screen. Games are very fluid, Boat Browser and UC Browser both offer exceptional speed and fluidity for browsing, and optimized apps, as with anywhere else, make the biggest difference. If they are optimized, then this tablet will chew through them like butter.
If you plan to use Nova launcher, etc. Then you will have no issues of slowdowns with this tablet. With those launchers, this thing flies, and you still get to keep all of the sPen features, which realistically, is probably why you are buying this anyway. If you weren't, you could get a tab pro cheaper, but probably not refurbed.
For notes, SNote is slow, for me at least, but LectureNotes is a fantastic alternative that offers fast, fluid note taking and is very reliable for classwork or the like.
If you are the type to use ROMs, I hear that there are some awesomely smooth options like CleanROM which retain the SPen features and touchwiz, but optimize it for smoothness.
By the way, a couple of things you should know if you end up purchasing this tablet. First, the speed of the tablet increases greatly after about 4-5 days, depending on your usage. Also, the battery life improves significantly after 2 weeks of use. At the beginning, this tab would drain about 10 percent over 8 hours, and now it consistently drains about 2% over the same time period.
Hope this helps,
-Cody
I wouldn't go near the Samsung. Between the random (supposedly fixable) bluetooth issues, the lag and the lack of updates this tablet was/is pretty much a rip off. I've been a heavy Android user for years but it pushed me towards getting an iPad air. I have to say I'm really happy with the iPad and haven't looked back. It's a pity because the display is absolutely gorgeous and I really liked the pen input. It wasn't enough incentive to deal with all of the other issues however.
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Thinking about getting one of these 32gb refurbished. Would you buy it again? Most of the reviews talk about laggy performance. Did the updates fix it at all?
Battery life decent? Torn between this and an iPad Air. I am experienced with both iOS and Android, so I understand the differences. Laggy Androids piss me off, but if they are smooth like my LG G2, then I have no problems with them. My iPad 3 on IOS 7 got too laggy, drives me insane.. selling it off.
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Well... My experience varies. Seems like my note 10.1 has good and bad days. Sometimes performance couldnt be better, everything flies and the battery life is excellent but there are days, when there's noticeable lag and battery drain... My best on-screen time was 10 hours, the worse was 5 - while I didn't use it any differently in either cases, so that is strange. The lag you're so curious about is only in the launcher (touchwiz for the win), apps usually perform very well. As far as updates go, I only received one so far since I got the device (2013 december), so I can't really say anything about that.
Would I buy it again? Well, I'm aware of the limitations of iOS, but I never had a chance to try out an iPad for a longer period of time, so I'm not sure how it would fit my needs. This leaves me to pick an android device, and I have absolutely no doubt, that the note 10.1 is definitely one of the bests. Is it the most fluid experience? No, touchwiz kind of ruins that, but hey, you can always replace that with Nova or something that fits you. In terms of functionality, I'm sure that you can't go wrong with this, you have android+samsung features, which leaves you with an endless pool of possibilities. Even if you don't need the s-pen, the hardware in this device is amazing and with future software updates, I believe it could be on par with the smoothness of the iPad Air. So my answer is yes, I would buy it again, despite the occasional stutter which is present due to touchwiz. The battery life certainly could be better, but it will last you a full day with heavy usage, I usually recharge mine after 3-4 days (I'm not a heavy gamer, I use the tablet to take notes, read and edit pdfs, browse the internet, send emails... etc). The average on-screen time I'm getting is around 7-8 hours with 30-35% brightness (oh yes, the screen is REALLY bright).
In the end of the day, it really comes down to this: do you want to use android? If yes, go for the note 10.1 2014 edition without any hestitation. If you think you could live with iOS (you can always jailbreak and cram out some more functionality) and you don't really need the s-pen, by all means, go for the iPad Air, both of these tablets are absolutely amazing products.
I totally agree with what @compumasta said about lag. There's occasional lag in transitions and app openings/closings but everywhere else the device is fast. You can do some pretty resource intensive things on the N10.1-14 that you can't do with any other device. I open two My Files instances side-by-side in multi-view and drag-and-drop files from my home server via FTP to my N10.1-14 and vice-versa. You can use Air Command to launch Scrap Book and copy pages or snips of content from an app or the web. You can get a spinning wheel occasionally while the device is processing. But it's pretty amazing that something as small as the N10.1-14 is able to do work-horse productivity work at all. If you're a productivity or creation user there's nothing that can touch the N10.1-14. The more I push it the more impressed by it I am.
But are you a productivity and creation user? For consumption and games the N10.1-14 is overkill and the ton of processes and threads open in the background at all times to support its unique and resource intensive features do sap some of the power of its high-end h/w. If you're not interested in those features you might be better off with an iPad.
The new Tab/Note Pro's are running 4.4 with some pretty major updates to Samsung's s/w and apps. Even with that reviewers have pointed out the same transition lag discussed above. My N10.1-14 is definitely not as smooth as my N3 but, considering its pushing three times the display area, it's a small price to pay for such a productivity powerhouse. But if you're lag obsessed you might want to think about what you're willing to live with and I wouldn't pin my hopes on updates changing anything dramatically based on the new Pro's performance.
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I wouldn't go near the Samsung. Between the random (supposedly fixable) bluetooth issues, the lag and the lack of updates this tablet was/is pretty much a rip off. I've been a heavy Android user for years but it pushed me towards getting an iPad air. I have to say I'm really happy with the iPad and haven't looked back. It's a pity because the display is absolutely gorgeous and I really liked the pen input. It wasn't enough incentive to deal with all of the other issues however.
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I agree with you. If appearance is important then the iPad is the way to go. If, however, one chooses function over form the I'd choose an Android in a heartbeat.
Same deal (probably going to see a lot of these because of the WOOT deal)
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Between the random (supposedly fixable) bluetooth
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I couldn't help but respond to this. I'm at a coffee shop connected to their Wi-Fi editing a document in Hword while responding to you in a multi-view browser window using a BT mouse and keyboard while watching Amazon Instant video in a pop-up window with audio provided by a BT headset. Some folks have had BT issues but mine's been better than any device I've owned and it has been that way since the day I got my N10.1-14.
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I think you should be able to get your answer from Barry's post lol! I'm on a custom ROM and this tablet is a monster.
For the tablet itself yes, but for the dev on P600 NO. I'm very sad to see that on P605 it's sun shinig but on P600 it's raining !!!
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Lot of negativity here^^ It all comes down to your personal needs, but I would instantly buy it again. It just offers everything I need. Most of my friends have iPads so I've seen what they can do. Ipads have some very nice apps that aren't (yet) available on Android. That is the ONLY upside of the ipad in my opinion.
Lag isn't an issue at all for me (Nova Launcher+root) and there is just soo much you can do with the Note 10.1 where the iPad has very hard limitations. I'm not gonna list them all because it has been listed many times before and it's pretty obvious imho. The iPad is a big sized ipod touch while the Note 10.1 is almost a full PC with pen support.
But if you're just gonna read some news and watch the occasional movie (4:3 screen can be annoying) on your tablet and want something "apple-nice", why not go for the ipad.
If you expect something more from a device like this, something that goes into the direction of laptop replacement, the Note 10. 1 is the way to go. Especially if you like handwriting and sketching.
If you need even more productivity you might wanna look at the Surface2 pro. Or wait for the Surface 3. A collegue of mine has it and he is very happy with it, he does all his IT stuff with it. But it has some downsides (size, weight, battery life, windows).
So for me the tablet world atm comes down to this:
Just4Fun-------------------------------------Productivity
Ipad --------------- Note 10.1 2014 ----------Surface2
For me the note 10.1 is the sweetspot.
I was looking at a couple of QHD tablets, and the Note was the lightest one with the smallest bezels. I had the Note 2 and almost never used the SPen, so I might have bought an equivalent Galaxy Tab if they had one. As it turns out, I use remote desktop all the time, and the Microsoft Remote Desktop app is hands down the best rdp app... but only if you have a stylus. So I was glad I got the Note after all. And the screen is absolutely gorgeous. With Nova Launcher, there's no lag.
The biggest drawback is so-so battery life that's worsened by the slow charging on the Exynos version. Also, it's a little awkward to hold in portrait mode because of the physical buttons.
If I were shopping for a tablet right now, I would get this or maybe the Note Pro, but probably the 10.1 because of the weight. I might also be inclined to spend even more money on the 4g version for the faster charging Snapdragon supports.
I have zero interest in an iPad, so YMMV.
Yes I would buy it again, it's one of the best android tablets ever made. The issue is with the Samsung bloat which can be adjusted to your liking. My liking was to remove all the extra things I don't want, will never use, and were stealing resources. I can tell you the new crop of Roms have a much much better kernel which I am using and most of that random microstutter is gone. Buy it and try it, if you don't like it sell it and move on.....
Yes!
I sometimes wonder , How do ipad ios guys survive without a File Manager , Drag and drop data functionality etc that every one is pretty much used to on Windows Pc's .
I love Ios for the look , but its restricting me in quite a few ways and have to find workarounds to do simple PC like tasks .
Anyways , Do any of you guys use the tablet as A Pc ? As on use the file browser .. open files with any program , move files to your desktop from the tablet just like a usb .. or just download some songs .. rt click save as .. etc .
Dropbox is great .. but why keep connecting to the internet everytime when in Android you can save it locally ..
Appart from that the Spen is unique , thats another thing.
I do crib about the stutter n see if it can be made better .. but give up some freedoms for beauty .. just can't do that.
Android is like that rough around the edges clumsy friend but who has a big heart .. imho .
I love this Tablet...I have no issues at all..I never did..I'm rooted and have TB and tons of other stuff. No lag , very fast...IPad is a joke compared to this,,,I have a Girlfriend so I spend my time banging her and not worryimg about light bleed or Kit Kat updates ,,....
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I love this Tablet...I have no issues at all..I never did..I'm rooted and have TB and tons of other stuff. No lag , very fast...IPad is a joke compared to this,,,I have a Girlfriend so I spend my time banging her and not worryimg about light bleed or Kit Kat updates ,,....
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I have a wife so I want Kitkat. Back to serious. I have owned many android tablets and this is far and away the most capable. It has more features to allow for productivity than any non windows device available. I despise Apple and their locked down overpriced ecosystem. Having said that if you are looking for a productivity and gaming/consumption device there is nothing better than the Note 10.1 2014. If all you want is a consumption device go with one of the Tab Pros or god forbid an Ipad.
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...If all you want is a consumption device go with one of the Tab Pros or god forbid an Ipad.
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I don't mean to hijack the thread too much, but I thought I'd just post here instead of starting a new thread.
I'm in the market for a tablet for gaming/consumption and have had my eyes on the Galaxy line, originally the Tab Pro 10.1. However, where I'm from, the Tab Pro 10.1 WiFi model and the Note 10.1 2014 Edition are the same price. I'm not so sure that I'd get the most use out of the S Pen, but might find the multi-tasking ability handy. Would you recommend just grabbing the Note 10.1 2014 over the Tab Pro 10.1 simply for the added functionality that it has to offer?
Edit: I have absolutely no intention of buying an Apple device.
Cheers.
I forgot the thing about the file system limitations. I couldnt even imagine living without one.
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I don't mean to hijack the thread too much, but I thought I'd just post here instead of starting a new thread.
I'm in the market for a tablet for gaming/consumption and have had my eyes on the Galaxy line, originally the Tab Pro 10.1. However, where I'm from, the Tab Pro 10.1 WiFi model and the Note 10.1 2014 Edition are the same price. I'm not so sure that I'd get the most use out of the S Pen, but might find the multi-tasking ability handy. Would you recommend just grabbing the Note 10.1 2014 over the Tab Pro 10.1 simply for the added functionality that it has to offer?
Edit: I have absolutely no intention of buying an Apple device.
Cheers.
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Absolutely if they are the same price. The internals are basically the same, the Pro is just running 4.4.2 out of the box. I did not realize how much I would use the Spen.
Hi all,
I wish to buy a new tablet but I'm wondering about which one to buy.
At first I was off on a galaxy note 10.1 2014 but after seeing tests on galaxy tab s I am interested, mainly thanks to autonomy.
By cons I read about several who said that the processor was not great and the tablet knew several lags.
My main use will be surfing, a little play and some times few films.
So what tablet choose to have a good flow and very good battery life.
Moreover, I'm French, can I buy my tablet in Canada and install a French ROM ?
Also, do you think the galaxy tab s will receive android L ?
Thanks a lot !!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YHXahMDDXJ8
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eqlAqk6om2s
florian83260 said:
Hi all,
I wish to buy a new tablet but I'm wondering about which one to buy.
At first I was off on a galaxy note 10.1 2014 but after seeing tests on galaxy tab s I am interested, mainly thanks to autonomy.
By cons I read about several who said that the processor was not great and the tablet knew several lags.
My main use will be surfing, a little play and some times few films.
So what tablet choose to have a good flow and very good battery life.
Moreover, I'm French, can I buy my tablet in Canada and install a French ROM ?
Also, do you think the galaxy tab s will receive android L ?
Thanks a lot !!
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Don't be discouraged by the videos in the post above mine and the negative comments by others. I'm sure those who say they are experiencing serious lag isses actually are. But not everyone is having those issues. My tablet does not come anywhere close to the lag on that video. It's hard for me to believe it's the same tablet. My tab S is the best tablet experience I have ever had and I would not try to turn anyone away from it. My suggestion is purchase it from a company with an easy return policy and give it a try for youself. If you experience the issues like in that guy's video return it for another one or move on to something else.
florian83260 said:
Hi all,
I wish to buy a new tablet but I'm wondering about which one to buy.
At first I was off on a galaxy note 10.1 2014 but after seeing tests on galaxy tab s I am interested, mainly thanks to autonomy.
By cons I read about several who said that the processor was not great and the tablet knew several lags.
My main use will be surfing, a little play and some times few films.
So what tablet choose to have a good flow and very good battery life.
Moreover, I'm French, can I buy my tablet in Canada and install a French ROM ?
Also, do you think the galaxy tab s will receive android L ?
Thanks a lot !!
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Well I would suggest you try it before you buy it or buy it where you can return it without restocking fee or any problems.
While the tablet has a good screen (a bit over saturated and unrealistic colors) it's kinda nice how the colors pops out.
If your main usage will be surfing, I don't know if all of them are that way, but at least mine and 2 others that I tried at different stores had something like stuttering while scrolling a web page, let me explain it. When you are scrolling, instead of the text scrolling with smooth movement, it jumps, sure those jumps are "small" but that jumpy text at least on my case was causing major headaches at the point, that I stop using it and return it (and paying $75 USD for restocking fee). Those jumps are more like it's dropping frames. On my opinion that is not acceptable for a "high end tablet", also when I tried for 20 minutes Asphalt 4 I saw some frames dropped. Also just typing or deleting something it was laggy. So this tablet for web browsing/e-mail, in my case was useless.
If you want to watch movies, I saw some on my 10.5 and yeah it was nice for scenes with vivid colors, but when there are shadows, because the blacks are to deep you loose all detail on the shadows, and instead of shadows you will se only clipped blacks. (not everybody will notice) but my hobby is Photography so I really notice this.
Battery life, well it's ok, not the greatest (comparing to my old iPad 2)
In terms of quality build, imo it's very good.
Well at the end I got a tab pro 8.4 and it has been a pleasure to use. Not a single jittering/lag issue as I was having with the tab s, I would probably say the problem of the tab S is that uses the Exynos combo.
Again, maybe all this issues I had with the Tab S, not everybody may notice, but for those who are sensitive to things like this, is a pain to use. That's why you will read some mixed opinions. So that's why I will suggest you to TRY it before with cold brain and not letting you get blown by the oversaturated colors.
My .2 cents.
I've been in the market for a new tablet, as my old one (tegra 2 iconia a500) is struggling to hold more than a couple hours' charge. I'm on the fence between the galaxy tabs S and Pro (8.4'')
I'll explain my usage, and what I'm hoping are not-too-high expectations. I am a gamer, first and foremost. (More on that in a bit) I haven't been on twitter for ~2 years or Facebook for almost one. I use hangouts all the time, and spend a lot of my time away from a charger. I had an s5 for awhile which made moving my PSP library from discs to data very fun. That sort of fun got me something like 6 hours of screen on time, playing PSP on 80% brightness. I hope to get AT LEAST that on my tab, without any lag of course (I do NOT use frameskip.) I already know real racing 3, shadowgun, dead trigger 2, and n.o.v.a. 3 run JUST FINE. Heck, my dual core phone can run those just as well as the s5, so I'm not even considering that those games will give either tablet a hard time.
What I'm seeing are tradeoffs back and forth across the board. I'll try to avoid mentioning what everyone knows they have in common.
Tab S- heart stopping screen, better battery life, great speaker placement, BUT... A "select few" get far too hot, and those few have warped back panels. That one makes me cringe. I had one of the "select few" s5's whose camera completely ****** itself. Unfixable. Samsung blames me.
Tab Pro- more stable development, practically same SOC as s5 (800 vs 801, I did some research) so plenty fast compared to the tab S. But worse battery life, I'm told the screen is dull, samsung seems to have dropped this like a hot potato so future support is grim (not that it matters much if you have CM) and bad speaker placement
I got to hold a tab s 8.4 and the screen blew me away. Until I found out about the exynos 5420, I thought I'd just held the replacement to my phone AND tablet. I've never seen a tab pro, but that's the direction I'm leaning in right now. I would have ended this essay at "I'm a gamer, and real racing 3 is child's play" but I think that others like me can benefit from the points I've made and what I ultimately choose.
I apologize for even having to ask you guys this question. I don't make much so it takes a long time to save for something like this. I just want to make sure I make the right choice. Please, feel free to say why/why not for the tab pro 8.4
Thanks in advance, xda.
Final note: I guess the shield is a contender also, but a "warm, faded screen", bad camera, and 4-ish hour screen time is a turnoff.
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I am an Tab S owner and I own the 10.5 one. What I can tell you is that yeah it does get hot right around the camera during gaming. As far as development, the Tab S 8.4 WiFi version is getting official cm12 from what I heard. The unofficial works fine on it too with little problems. As for the warp issue, that was only affect ed on the ones made before launch. The issue has been fixed I guess since there hasn't been any reports of it since last year. Um if you keep the brightness at 50% and you play games, you'd probably get 4-5 screen on time since you said you play games. I'd suggest you look at the battery results in the tab s threads. The screen is amazing but may kill a lot of battery in your case. As for the tab pro, other users will need to report on that since I don't own it. The tab s is gonna definitely gonna have lag out of the box unless you install a custom ROM then it won't. If you have any questions about the tab s ask me. Since I own the bigger model, the 8.4 has a similar experience in lag and all that
Hey, I read alot of stuff in the forums from you, and you're pretty well-informed, I'm glad you found this! The peak of what I need from this device that a person might have laying around is metal gear solid peacewalker for psp. If you (or anyone) could rip a copy of it, and run it on ppsspp with 2x PSP resolution and no frameskip, I'll be able to purchase a tab s mostly without worry. Also, as a personal favor, could you see if a conductive metal key or something gets the touchscreen to react in gloves/high sensitivity mode? I used a crochet needle as a DS stylus on my s5, and got attached
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Sorry too for double posting, but "touchwiz lag" is no problem to me. I fully plan on debloating
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Hey, I read alot of stuff in the forums from you, and you're pretty well-informed, I'm glad you found this! The peak of what I need from this device that a person might have laying around is metal gear solid peacewalker for psp. If you (or anyone) could rip a copy of it, and run it on ppsspp with 2x PSP resolution and no frameskip, I'll be able to purchase a tab s mostly without worry. Also, as a personal favor, could you see if a conductive metal key or something gets the touchscreen to react in gloves/high sensitivity mode? I used a crochet needle as a DS stylus on my s5, and got attached
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Doing and downloading now. Just give me some time since my internet is slow. I'm running cm11 so yeah. As for a stylus, I don't think it works. Glove mode works well though
prichm1992 said:
I am a gamer, first and foremost.
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Get the tab pro. See 6:59 of the video below for processor benchmark comparison.
prichm1992 said:
Hey, I read alot of stuff in the forums from you, and you're pretty well-informed, I'm glad you found this! The peak of what I need from this device that a person might have laying around is metal gear solid peacewalker for psp. If you (or anyone) could rip a copy of it, and run it on ppsspp with 2x PSP resolution and no frameskip, I'll be able to purchase a tab s mostly without worry. Also, as a personal favor, could you see if a conductive metal key or something gets the touchscreen to react in gloves/high sensitivity mode? I used a crochet needle as a DS stylus on my s5, and got attached
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Well, the game is weird. I must have gotten a bad iso or something? I might try another game. This is what it looks like for me
Whoa. Might be a framebuffer thing. Try non buffered rendering in the top graphics option
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If that doesn't work change display resolution to auto, if that doesn't work, I'm sorry for wasting your time..
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prichm1992 said:
If that doesn't work change display resolution to auto, if that doesn't work, I'm sorry for wasting your time..
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I think it was a troll copy. I can play burnout just fine! I even changed the settings so yeah.
Haha, maybe I got you into a whole new way to play on your tablet
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prichm1992 said:
Haha, maybe I got you into a whole new way to play on your tablet
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Yeah. I've actually been playing for the past 3 hours! Getting addicted xD Here's a gameplay I recorded. Fps is shown as well. There only seems to be a slight micro lag in loading screens. Other than that its all smooth. There was audio cuts in the video as I was recording. But without recording its all smooth. I also shown the ram usage and switching in between apps. Even though I own the 10.5 inch model, it should still be the same on the 8.4 since the chipsets are the same. You should check out some gaming on the Tab pro BTW. Tab S gameplay https://youtu.be/ZA0zTRWRoIM
I think that sells it for me. And while you were recording? Those a15's can really deliver! When I looked up gaming on the pro, all I ever get is the usual. Dead trigger, rr3, etc.
If you're into rpg's, ppsspp can deliver more than Google play ever could. Jeanne d'arc is a fire emblem-esque game with a great story. FF crisis core is fun too. And persona 3 portable. Ah, I can hardly wait now!
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I think that sells it for me. And while you were recording? Those a15's can really deliver! When I looked up gaming on the pro, all I ever get is the usual. Dead trigger, rr3, etc.
If you're into rpg's, ppsspp can deliver more than Google play ever could. Jeanne d'arc is a fire emblem-esque game with a great story. FF crisis core is fun too. And persona 3 portable. Ah, I can hardly wait now!
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Yes I was recording internally. You may need to turn on a few speedhacks to make it smooth but it works fine. Going into another app then switching back works well too since it has 3gb of ram. Of course I couldn't test any other game since it would take forever to download. So its up to you to decide! I didn't get heat because I was running cm11. I'm not sure if the tab pro is better than the tab s so yeah
I've really got a lot to think about. I'll deliberate carefully until the day comes to finally decide. I don't get new devices often so I've got to make it count
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Hey! I figured out there is a tab s 8.4 with snapdragon 800, LTE, voice and SMS! Could somebody point me to a model number that gets at least hspa+ speeds on att?
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prichm1992 said:
Hey! I figured out there is a tab s 8.4 with snapdragon 800, LTE, voice and SMS! Could somebody point me to a model number that gets at least hspa+ speeds on att?
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There's no development for those... And att tab s models have locked bootloaders unless you get an international one. I couldn't find a snapdragon model either. I forgot to mention that the build quality is OK on the tab s but the tab pro has a better build quality.
Well, I thought I should let everyone know, I've decided. A week from today, I'll own a shield tablet. O decided to pull the trigger on one, and I'll come back and tell you all how I like it. Thanks for all your help
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Hello everyone,
I decided on buying my very first tablet... After buying my first Samsung Galaxy phone, I have come to absolutely love Amoled displays.
So I have only 2 choices I guess?
So what do you guys think? I've done loads of research and I just can't decided because:
Tab s is Cheaper, better battery, bigger screen But slower SOC.
Tab S2 is faster and i like the portrait orientation with that 4:3 ratio (these are the only advantages imho since i genuinely don't care about the looks, the camera nor the thinness of it because the tablet is going to be in it's case all the time).
So I cant decide if I should go for the old and save a few bucks (euros actually ) or go for the new one that is like 20% faster.
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
Soo... Do share your thoughts with me guys,
Thanks in advance.
lorismarcos said:
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
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I recommend the Tab S 10.5 based on your statement.
Here's a video comparing both:
Really helpful video.
Thanks mate.
Is the performance of that exynos 5420 decent for viewing large PDF's?
Cause from my research many people tend to complain about the tab S' performance.
Or is that associated with the touchwiz
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I have been using the Tab S 10.5 for a while now, and it is terribly slow. The reasons for the slowness are very little RAM which cripples the OS (3GB) and general Android application awkwardness and slugginess (designed for phones not for every day use). Both Galaxy tabs have 3GB RAM so you're out of luck.
Using the tablet to do simple, every day tasks, there is a tremendous difference with the laptop. I know you said you only want to watch movies or read books, but still I think a small laptop running Windows or Apple iOS would beat the pants out of any tablet. The only difference is the price, tablets can be much cheaper than laptops. But I regret having bought the tablet because it cannot really do simple things without extreme awkwardness.
The only major plus is I am using it also as a phone (I have the T805) which is something no laptop can do (that I am aware of).
As you said I also have the tablet in a case/ book cover , complete with keyboard and mouse, so it is like a small laptop anyway.
If you have not bought it yet, try to see if there are 10"-11" laptops that could do everything you need and so much better.
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
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Wow, 3 GB of RAM is little for you... What simple tasks you want to do, that Galaxy tab s is too slow for you? Mine is really fast, enough to replace laptop. Maybe you are not familiar with Android and don't know how to maintain the device fast.
lorismarcos said:
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
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"multitasking like crazy..." That was funny!
lorismarcos said:
Hello everyone,
I decided on buying my very first tablet... After buying my first Samsung Galaxy phone, I have come to absolutely love Amoled displays.
So I have only 2 choices I guess?
So what do you guys think? I've done loads of research and I just can't decided because:
Tab s is Cheaper, better battery, bigger screen But slower SOC.
Tab S2 is faster and i like the portrait orientation with that 4:3 ratio (these are the only advantages imho since i genuinely don't care about the looks, the camera nor the thinness of it because the tablet is going to be in it's case all the time).
So I cant decide if I should go for the old and save a few bucks (euros actually ) or go for the new one that is like 20% faster.
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
Soo... Do share your thoughts with me guys,
Thanks in advance.
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since you mentioned cyanogenmod.... go with the good old tab s 10.5... tab s 2 got nothing develop yet.... :silly:
You are either an 16:10 or 4:3 person, if you watch more video get the S1 10.5" 16:10 if you browse the internet mostly get the S2 9.7" 4:3 Version, if you don't care, I don't either.
John.
lorismarcos said:
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
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Go with Tab s 10.5:
Bigger display
Higher resolution 2560 x 1600
Led flash
Infrared
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Astania said:
Wow, 3 GB of RAM is little for you... What simple tasks you want to do, that Galaxy tab s is too slow for you? Mine is really fast, enough to replace laptop. Maybe you are not familiar with Android and don't know how to maintain the device fast.
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I totally agree the tabs 10.5 fast with stock and even faster when rooted. I own the SM-T807P by Sprint variant. I just wish for a couple of custom Roms .
Guys, thanks for all your help.
I went and got my self a nice bronze t805...
I managed to last about 30 mins with bloatwiz.. So now I'm on PAC man Rom...Who cares about Knox and warranties and what not...
I really recommend this Rom. It completely transformed my tab, and now it's much faster.
Cheers lads