Just curios...Why not more ROM development? - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I understand at least the T-mobile variety has an unlocked bootloader, and we have root for all, so why aren't we seeing a bit more action in the development section(s)?
I am not a developer just an avid flasher, so I am not keen on what makes one platform more attractive to developers but it seems to be a very popular phone. If this is a dumb question, flame away...
Just wondering out loud...
thanks,

aaronc_98 said:
I understand at least the T-mobile variety has an unlocked bootloader, and we have root for all, so why aren't we seeing a bit more action in the development section(s)?
I am not a developer just an avid flasher, so I am not keen on what makes one platform more attractive to developers but it seems to be a very popular phone. If this is a dumb question, flame away...
Just wondering out loud...
thanks,
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Probably because no devs have got a T-Mobile G3,simple as that.

Batfink33 said:
Probably because no devs have got a T-Mobile G3,simple as that.
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I just think other devs have a different device and arent interested in the G3 currently.. Hopefully that will change soon

SystemErrorOne said:
I just think other devs have a different device and arent interested in the G3 currently.. Hopefully that will change soon
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perhaps one of them will express interest and we could raise funds to buy them a phone... been done before

screwyluie said:
perhaps one of them will express interest and we could raise funds to buy them a phone... been done before
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We could do that, I know jcase is having a bounty for the international version of the G3 (see thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/bounty-lg-g3-d855bootloader-unlocking-t2807900)
maybe we should get him a T-Mobile G3 and have him make a ROM.

It would be cool if the tmobile g3 begins rom development now until all other variants get their bootloader unlocked. That way we wont loose much time.

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[Q] Where does one find help or docs on a new app like the 4.2 camera

I have downloaded and installed the new 4.2 camera app on my GNex. My question is sort of simple. Where does one find instructions on how to use it? In particular, I am looking for documentation on the new "sphere" feature.
DavidFlory said:
I have downloaded and installed the new 4.2 camera app on my GNex. My question is sort of simple. Where does one find instructions on how to use it? In particular, I am looking for documentation on the new "sphere" feature.
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Wait until it is officially released and you will get documents on how to use it.
Darunion said:
Wait until it is officially released and you will get documents on how to use it.
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With all due respect, I don't want to wait. I am looking to this community to suggest places that Google or other knowledgeable users might have put some info on how the app works.
DavidFlory said:
With all due respect, I don't want to wait. I am looking to this community to suggest places that Google or other knowledgeable users might have put some info on how the app works.
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If the info is not yet available.... it's not yet available. You have to wait like the rest of us.
nunyazz said:
If the info is not yet available.... it's not yet available. You have to wait like the rest of us.
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Are you saying that you know the information is not yet available? That is helpful. Otherwise saying "if it is not available then it is not available" is an unhelpful tautology.
I think that the 4.2 camera app is available on a few of the new tablets that just got announced. It is not unreasonable to ask if there is any info on usage or features.
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Wait until it is officially released and you will get documents on how to use it.
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this
So there should be documentation on something that doesn't officially exist yet? Ok.
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With all due respect, I don't want to wait.
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No one cares what you want. I want a million dollars right now tax free. Is that going to happen? Hell no.
As for your "situation", you can just learn it yourself by messing around with all the options. It's not likes it's going to kill YOU if YOU do the legwork YOURSELF instead of asking us to do the work for you.
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geoffcorey said:
No one cares what you want. I want a million dollars right now tax free. Is that going to happen? Hell no.
As for your "situation", you can just learn it yourself by messing around with all the options. It's not likes it's going to kill YOU if YOU do the legwork YOURSELF instead of asking us to do the work for you.
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I really don't understand why you guys are all dumping on me. I asked a simple question and a link or quick suggestion would have sufficed. I clearly am capable of doing my own legwork or I would not be running a custom ROM on an unlocked phone and finding and installing an unreleased app.
I love baby pandas.
DavidFlory said:
I really don't understand why you guys are all dumping on me. I asked a simple question and a link or quick suggestion would have sufficed. I clearly am capable of doing my own legwork or I would not be running a custom ROM on an unlocked phone and finding and installing an unreleased app.
I love baby pandas.
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It's because of 1) your question and 2) your responses.
You're asking if anyone has a link to help about something that isn't released. When you were told there isn't such a thing yet, you sounded like a whinny little kid and said "no, I don't want to. Do it for me". How else do you think rue XDA community (who is known for not searching and asking to be spoonfed as well as dumping on said people) is going to respond?
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DavidFlory said:
I really don't understand why you guys are all dumping on me. I asked a simple question and a link or quick suggestion would have sufficed. I clearly am capable of doing my own legwork or I would not be running a custom ROM on an unlocked phone and finding and installing an unreleased app.
I love baby pandas.
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Because you are wanting bleeding edge unreleased software. This comes at a price and that price is you are part of the first ones using it, so of course there is no documentation. It essentially is a beta, it isn't even promised to work let alone have a users guide for it yet. Maybe in a couple months someone will write a guide telling you what the buttons do.
I tried to help inform you but your general rudeness and 'whining' is making me not want to bother and apparently is having the same effect on others that are normally very helpful users here.
DavidFlory said:
I have downloaded and installed the new 4.2 camera app on my GNex. My question is sort of simple. Where does one find instructions on how to use it? In particular, I am looking for documentation on the new "sphere" feature.
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Have you tried it?? It's pretty self explanatory, what are your questions? Also, Google is not well known for documenting their features.
Has anybody tried searching on Google ?

Do Something about the lack of development - Sign this petition now!!

Like many users here, I am disappointed by the pace of development. I understand that the T-mobile version is the only one that has a unlocked bootloader and that limits the interest on development as many potential devs have other variants. Many users here (myself included) are not knowledgeable enough to develop anything ourselves. The less enlightened (to put it nicely) non-developers complain like crazy while others sit quietly for a paragon developer to come along. There are a few developers who are doing great work bringing CM11 and DeviantXone to our phones. Either way most of us non-developers really don't have any opportunity to make a difference... until now.
There is a petition that is taking off at change.org. It has already received a response from LG and with more signatures, could lead to a change. The petition is asking for LG to unlock the bootloader of the phone. This should increase the number of developers by a substantial amount. Developing for the LG G3 is much better than developing for just the D851.
Please join Sebastian Jena's campaign: Click here to sign the petition!
Lol wow. I feel for you man. That just killed the devs off for good.
BAD ASS G3
BACARDILIMON said:
Lol wow. I feel for you man. That just killed the devs off for good.
BAD ASS G3
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how? its asking to get the bootloaded unlocked.
bodom_hc said:
how? its asking to get the bootloaded unlocked.
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That does not sound like that at all if it what he meant needs to reword big time. It read to me that we have no Dev in this section. We have a small amount but we have. Maybe I read it or took it wrong.
BAD ASS G3
I wouldn't call what going on right now a lack of development. We have both stock based and cyanogenmod based Roms. When the cyanogenmod Roms that are out now become stable we will see a lot of ports for our phone. Its not that big of a deal but the petition is a great idea for the rest of the world. Just so you are aware most g3 versions can have stock based Roms but there seems to only be one actively developed ROM at a time over in the generic g3 section because the rest of the world has the same problem us T-Mobile folks do (lack of people willing to step up and learn how to do this stuff). I give it another month at most until we see stable cyanogenmod.
Goes back to 1% who modify their phones vs. Corporate clients who insist on security.... Who do you think cell providers and manufacturers are going to listen too....?
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BACARDILIMON said:
That does not sound like that at all if it what he meant needs to reword big time. It read to me that we have no Dev in this section. We have a small amount but we have. Maybe I read it or took it wrong.
BAD ASS G3
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You were right, it needed to be reworded. I hope the updated post is better.
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Goes back to 1% who modify their phones vs. Corporate clients who insist on security.... Who do you think cell providers and manufacturers are going to listen too....?
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This is a valid point but I am not sure that many corporate clients support android devices nevermind the LG G3. Everywhere I have worked has been iphone and blackberry but the sample size is only 3 so I could be way off about this. Also they usually listen to the loudest of us. Even if we are outnumbered 10 to 1, we still stand a chance as long as we make more noise in support of this than they do in support of the status-quo. Even if you are right though, it doesn't take long to sign up and it is probably the biggest difference I and other non-developers can make so why not try at least?
I'd be fine with signing it, but then I'll get loads of emails from them, which I don't want.
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Just mark it as spam. I signed. I'd say reword to: "sign this petition to get ALL g3 bootloaders unlocked and help development!" And leave it at that.
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You were right, it needed to be reworded. I hope the updated post is better.
This is a valid point but I am not sure that many corporate clients support android devices nevermind the LG G3. Everywhere I have worked has been iphone and blackberry but the sample size is only 3 so I could be way off about this. Also they usually listen to the loudest of us. Even if we are outnumbered 10 to 1, we still stand a chance as long as we make more noise in support of this than they do in support of the status-quo. Even if you are right though, it doesn't take long to sign up and it is probably the biggest difference I and other non-developers can make so why not try at least?
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For the record.... How many bootloaders been unlocked by a cell provider after initial release... And modding community is probably outnumbered by 100 to 1 or more likely more..and loud noise doesn't over come revenue stream... Be glad some providers release a dev phone for purchase.
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Lol
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You still may want to edit.your post. You spend far too long complaining about the lack of developing and how no one is deloping and.far less on why the phone should be unlike. Wasn't until the ending that I was like...oh he's not making a petition because no one is developing but to unlock the boot loader....
I also noticed the lack of development behind the G3.
Its a great phone, but if you want a phone with development youll have to get a HTC or Samsung or Nexus.
Even the Samsung devices with locked bootloaders get more development lol.
Sold mine on Craigslist and I hve a Note 4 on preorder awaiting shipment.
There use to be a time where if you were dissapointed in the amount of development being done on a phone you learned how dev. Thats what was great about android. It is an open source system made for you to make it youelr own. Yes times have changed and and not everything is completely open (nothing was ever completely open), but i know there are still ways to learn. Yes you might think your too busy to learn but if you really want more development for this device you will find the time to learn and truly make your device yours.
hypersonicx said:
I also noticed the lack of development behind the G3.
Its a great phone, but if you want a phone with development youll have to get a HTC or Samsung or Nexus.
Even the Samsung devices with locked bootloaders get more development lol.
Sold mine on Craigslist and I hve a Note 4 on preorder awaiting shipment.
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There is development going on for the g3. Just the tmobile variant. Once the boot loader gets unlocked, it'll probably be easy to port them to the other variants. And it's not LG's fault that only tmobile's boot loader is unlocked. It's the cell provider's that wanted that. If everyone just gives up and moves to different phones, the devs will see no need to try and unlock the other bootloaders.
I signed it , hopefully they unlock it
pssst
BUMP!

Developer Support (lack thereof) for the HTC One E8

Hi XDA,
I had debated buying a m8 vs e8 and ended up buying the e8 due to dual SIM necessity for myself .
However, after buying this device, my biggest gripe is that there is absolutely near zero developer love for the e8. [emoji31]
The e8 is basically a m8 stripped of the IR blaster and camera changed. THAT'S IT.
Can the devs at m8 forums please show some mercy to us folks and release a tweaked version of their roms for the e8?<---once again this is a request or plea for some help, and thanks if you took the time to read.
Thanks and please let another xda lover or developer know if this can be done.
rdheepak said:
Hi XDA,
I had debated buying a m8 vs e8 and ended up buying the e8 due to dual SIM necessity for myself .
However, after buying this device, my biggest gripe is that there is absolutely near zero developer love for the e8. [emoji31]
The e8 is basically a m8 stripped of the IR blaster and camera changed. THAT'S IT.
Can the devs at m8 forums please show some mercy to us folks and release a tweaked version of their roms for the e8?<---once again this is a request or plea for some help, and thanks if you took the time to read.
Thanks and please let another xda lover or developer know if this can be done.
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It will come eventually. Devs need to actually own/have access to a device to work on it. Most devs have the M8, not the E8.
Patience is needed. There will be something eventually.
Also, google is your friend.
This is what I got from a simple google search (e8 roms).
xunholyx said:
It will come eventually. Devs need to actually own/have access to a device to work on it. Most devs have the M8, not the E8.
Patience is needed. There will be something eventually.
Also, google is your friend.
This is what I got from a simple google search (e8 roms).
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Thanks for the hopeful words!!
I'll wait for support to build up eventually.
I did a fair bit of googling,and I found ROMS (the precious little available ) are for the China Unicom version - m8sw and these don't work on m8sd. Just my luck eh??
Developers please make ROMs for e8 also...please
Please devs ... Please support m8sd ... We need more roms for this device
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I thought every snapdragon device has development.But e8 eventually proved me wrong.No development so far .Not even cm.Even HTC desire 816 got unofficial cm.I m feeling screwed by choosing this device by selling off my canvas 4 which device got cynogenmod (though it is mediatek) and tons of roms.
Devs please have a look on e8.Device is gr8 in all terms but lacking development.
I posted all over xda and official Cynogenmod forum but no response yet.
Sent from my HTC One_E8 dual sim
Because most devs have the M8 and aren't interested in getting the e8 cause it's just not really any upgrade.
So yeah, as said development I'm sure will come, but I'd expect it to be fairly quiet. Won't be near what the M8 development is anyway.
Patience. ?
Any progress guys?
Sent from my HTC One_E8 dual sim
kunalra said:
Any progress guys?
Sent from my HTC One_E8 dual sim
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This won't help. We need to be noticed by the awesome developers on m8 development threads. They won't bother to look into a 'help' thread unless we post on their dev threads and beg them for mercy.
Boy are we screwed thoroughly. [emoji28] [emoji33]
rdheepak said:
This won't help. We need to be noticed by the awesome developers on m8 development threads. They won't bother to look into a 'help' thread unless we post on their dev threads and beg them for mercy.
Boy are we screwed thoroughly. [emoji28] [emoji33]
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Take it upon yourself and make your own ROM
If you're after a stock rooted ROM then you can do that yourself easily. Then you can add tweaks with sense 6 toolbox and xposed.
rdheepak said:
This won't help. We need to be noticed by the awesome developers on m8 development threads. They won't bother to look into a 'help' thread unless we post on their dev threads and beg them for mercy.
Boy are we screwed thoroughly. [emoji28] [emoji33]
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Yup I guess so.
We are screwed.
Now a days E8 only serving purpose of playing high end games.:thumbdown:
As well as their are 2 variants of same model. We have m8sd.so we have to find an Indian developer.:sly:
Sent from my HTC One_E8 dual sim
rdheepak said:
This won't help. We need to be noticed by the awesome developers on m8 development threads. They won't bother to look into a 'help' thread unless we post on their dev threads and beg them for mercy.
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Begging likely won't help either. If a dev is not internally motivated to make a ROM (usually since they own the device) they usually won't just do so because you beg or request it. You can try to start a bounty to create a monetary motive. But really, your best bet is to make one yourself, as previously suggested.
rdheepak said:
This won't help. We need to be noticed by the awesome developers on m8 development threads. They won't bother to look into a 'help' thread unless we post on their dev threads and beg them for mercy.
Boy are we screwed thoroughly. [emoji28] [emoji33]
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The only way that will work is you buy and send to them an E8. They can't develop for a device they don't own or have access to.
xunholyx said:
The only way that will work is you buy and send to them an E8. They can't develop for a device they don't own or have access to.
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redpoint73 said:
Begging likely won't help either. If a dev is not internally motivated to make a ROM (usually since they own the device) they usually won't just do so because you beg or request it. You can try to start a bounty to create a monetary motive. But really, your best bet is to make one yourself, as previously suggested.
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superchilpil said:
Take it upon yourself and make your own ROM
If you're after a stock rooted ROM then you can do that yourself easily. Then you can add tweaks with sense 6 toolbox and xposed.
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Thanks for the responses.
I'm already looking into starting the work myself, but this will take long.
rdheepak said:
Thanks for the responses.
I'm already looking into starting the work myself, but this will take long.
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Unless you're out for the most advanced thing in the world it will be easy. It takes patience but its something worth learning. I tried my hand at it, and since I was helpful around the forums I got help from countless devs (mostly from Team Venom) to learn to do what I wanted.
Although my main interest is themeing, I wanted to make something unique to my device and be able to say yes I did this myself.
superchilpil said:
Unless you're out for the most advanced thing in the world it will be easy. It takes patience but its something worth learning. I tried my hand at it, and since I was helpful around the forums I got help from countless devs (mostly from Team Venom) to learn to do what I wanted.
Although my main interest is themeing, I wanted to make something unique to my device and be able to say yes I did this myself.
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Yeah, the Team Venom guys are pretty awesome, aren't they?
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Thanks for the responses.
I'm already looking into starting the work myself, but this will take long.
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Nice. Good luck. Its something I've always wanted to try my hand at, but my personal life (2 kids, including one new baby) just doesn't presently support it. There are a number of good guides on XDA, easily found by searching. This one caught my eye in particular, as it refers to MIUI, and is also very current and updated:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2769142
The only thing I called it my custom rom is to root it and delete some bloatware. LOL
Any E8 rom please? :C

How much does it take?

So I have stumbled upon a problem with rooting/unlocking the boot loader for the Verizon variant of the mot z play. I've seen posts and other tutorials asking for a solution. But I see a similar reply to those questions: that it isn't going to happen due to the lack of dev support. So I am creating this thread to ask the developers what we (the ones who want root for moto z play Verizon) can do to get their full attention on, not just the moto z play, but all Verizon variants. So Devs What do you want? and Owners, What can you give?
zen_hakuren said:
So I have stumbled upon a problem with rooting/unlocking the boot loader for the Verizon variant of the mot z play. I've seen posts and other tutorials asking for a solution. But I see a similar reply to those questions: that it isn't going to happen due to the lack of dev support. So I am creating this thread to ask the developers what we (the ones who want root for moto z play Verizon) can do to get their full attention on, not just the moto z play, but all Verizon variants. So Devs What do you want? and Owners, What can you give?
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Probably easier to find a unicorn in the wild...
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Probably easier to find a unicorn in the wild...
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Maybe but one can try to find one. And with luck catch it.
From what I understand, Verizon bootloaders are not unlockable. They have only seen to gotten more strict with this over time. I would recommend getting a non-verizon or att variant of every phone in the future.
"Not Unlock-able" is not in the vocabulary of the hacking world. I know someone some where can crack the boot-loader its only a matter of time and effort. Anything can be cracked.
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"Not Unlock-able" is not in the vocabulary of the hacking world. I know someone some where can crack the boot-loader its only a matter of time and effort. Anything can be cracked.
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In a theoretical sense that's likely true. But it may require more time, money and resources than are available to the Devs on XDA. I think the point is, if you buy a locked Verizon or AT&T device, don't count on an unlock ever being available, especially if you aren't paying the salary of the guy working on it.
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In a theoretical sense that's likely true. But it may require more time, money and resources than are available to the Devs on XDA. I think the point is, if you buy a locked Verizon or AT&T device, don't count on an unlock ever being available, especially if you aren't paying the salary of the guy working on it.
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If I can get someone or a group to do it I wouldn't mind paying.
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If I can get someone or a group to do it I wouldn't mind paying.
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Lol, I'll be happy to take on the task for $100k/year plus hardware expenses and health bennies. No guarantee of success though.
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If I can get someone or a group to do it I wouldn't mind paying.
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If you are that head strong, learn and do it your self, or change carriers and phone. I let you guess which would be easier and cheaper....
Jimi Mack said:
If you are that head strong, learn and do it your self, or change carriers and phone. I let you guess which would be easier and cheaper....
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But who to learn from and what kind of coding... Linux?
zen_hakuren said:
But who to learn from and what kind of coding... Linux?
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Once again I remind people... Google is your friend.
Jimi Mack said:
Once again I remind people... Google is your friend.
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True...but talking to someone who is knowledgeable rather than a search engine may be more effective and efficient. And this seems to be one of the best places to find someone like that.
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Lol, I'll be happy to take on the task for $100k/year plus hardware expenses and health bennies. No guarantee of success though.
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One bootloader crack is not nearly worth that.$300 starting and 20 more weekly with prove of improvement​/work per bootloader unlock per phone.
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One bootloader crack is not nearly worth that.$300 starting and 20 more weekly with prove of improvement​/work per bootloader unlock per phone.
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Heh heh, my time is worth way more than that to other people, as is the time of most people who are likely capable of actually succeeding. I'm likely not actually capable.
Guess you better start learning.
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True...but talking to someone who is knowledgeable rather than a search engine may be more effective and efficient. And this seems to be one of the best places to find someone like that.
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I call it the lazy y way... and it is not efficient or effective. Everyone else has already come to terms it will not be done.
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I call it the lazy y way... and it is not efficient or effective. Everyone else has already come to terms it will not be done.
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Everyone else is not me...
6th line:
" I will never quit"
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Everyone else is not me...
6th line:
" I will never quit"
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Good for you, you have a lot of learning to do... have fun.
Jimi Mack said:
Good for you, you have a lot of learning to do... have fun.
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I will thx!
Jimi Mack said:
Good for you, you have a lot of learning to do... have fun.
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Also if I find a solution I'll post it!
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Also if I find a solution I'll post it!
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We look forward to seeing you part the Red Sea.
Now please stop talking about it and actually do it.

Custom ROMs and Kernel development?

Hey,
since I am getting my 7t soon and always valued the oneplus phones as developer friendly I am wondering if the lack of devs and roms/kernels for this particular phone will sort itself out over time? Is there any issue preventing things like proper twrp and stuff from happening?
Can you recommend a kernel (from the few out there) and is there any other place to look for them?
ElementalX has it covered, right?
Thanks!
xflowy said:
Hey,
since I am getting my 7t soon and always valued the oneplus phones as developer friendly I am wondering if the lack of devs and roms/kernels for this particular phone will sort itself out over time? Is there any issue preventing things like proper twrp and stuff from happening?
Can you recommend a kernel (from the few out there) and is there any other place to look for them?
ElementalX has it covered, right?
Thanks!
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I know we have one of the best time devs he had a locked bootloader Las t I heard tho
xflowy said:
Hey,
since I am getting my 7t soon and always valued the oneplus phones as developer friendly I am wondering if the lack of devs and roms/kernels for this particular phone will sort itself out over time? Is there any issue preventing things like proper twrp and stuff from happening?
Can you recommend a kernel (from the few out there) and is there any other place to look for them?
ElementalX has it covered, right?
Thanks!
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I'm using this kernel: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...-pro-cross-device-development/kernel-t4002781
It is very good.
xflowy said:
Hey,
since I am getting my 7t soon and always valued the oneplus phones as developer friendly I am wondering if the lack of devs and roms/kernels for this particular phone will sort itself out over time? Is there any issue preventing things like proper twrp and stuff from happening?
Can you recommend a kernel (from the few out there) and is there any other place to look for them?
ElementalX has it covered, right?
Thanks!
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There's plenty of development for this phone, just not on xda.
thedrizzle said:
There's plenty of development for this phone, just not on xda.
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you kidding right?
One of the major Problems is twrp still needs time for Android 10.
It's a problem for every device.
You also have the option of arter97's kernel that he just brought to the 7t
[r40] arter97 kernel for OnePlus 7 series
There may not be a huge quantity of devs for the phone yet but in this case, you have a few very good developers already.
Oh and on a side note, Arter97 is helping to bring Paranoid Android back to the scene so good things are coming.
thedrizzle said:
There's plenty of development for this phone, just not on xda.
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Where ?
Do you have some telegram links ?
hightech316 said:
Where ?
Do you have some telegram links ?
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Most of those links are semi-private by invite-only.
Developers got tired of requests and demands from rookie users on XDA, and rightly or wrongly felt under-appreciated at complaints about their free for-fun work...and then took their for-funsies development to more private areas. There also has been much squabbling and drama about "originality" and "kanging" in conjunction with moderation here over the decade+ Android has been a thing; which annoyed developers more. XDA really was a victim of XDA's and Androids own success over crappy OEMs undermaintaining their own firmware. Thus the seeming deadness and lack of development across most devices, now.
I know links and very active and very-elite groups on TG--but am not sharing them, because then I'll lose my own access to those channels. Not trying to show-off or be a jerk here, just explaining how and why.
Skripka said:
Most of those links are semi-private by invite-only.
Developers got tired of requests and demands from rookie users on XDA, and rightly or wrongly felt under-appreciated at complaints about their free for-fun work...and then took their for-funsies development to more private areas. There also has been much squabbling and drama about "originality" and "kanging" in conjunction with moderation here over the decade+ Android has been a thing; which annoyed developers more. XDA really was a victim of XDA's and Androids own success over crappy OEMs undermaintaining their own firmware. Thus the seeming deadness and lack of development across most devices, now.
I know links and very active and very-elite groups on TG--but am not sharing them, because then I'll lose my own access to those channels. Not trying to show-off or be a jerk here, just explaining how and why.
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Awhhh man , PM me.
I try to contribute, I am working on a new nethunter kernel that supports
mjwhirly said:
You also have the option of arter97's kernel that he just brought to the 7t
[r40] arter97 kernel for OnePlus 7 series
There may not be a huge quantity of devs for the phone yet but in this case, you have a few very good developers already.
Oh and on a side note, Arter97 is helping to bring Paranoid Android back to the scene so good things are coming.
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yea, saw this and got excited cause he really seems to know his stuff, but then i realized he just released the last/final version for oos and wont be continuing to provide for the original os.
Skripka said:
Most of those links are semi-private by invite-only.
Developers got tired of requests and demands from rookie users on XDA, and rightly or wrongly felt under-appreciated at complaints about their free for-fun work...and then took their for-funsies development to more private areas. There also has been much squabbling and drama about "originality" and "kanging" in conjunction with moderation here over the decade+ Android has been a thing; which annoyed developers more. XDA really was a victim of XDA's and Androids own success over crappy OEMs undermaintaining their own firmware. Thus the seeming deadness and lack of development across most devices, now.
I know links and very active and very-elite groups on TG--but am not sharing them, because then I'll lose my own access to those channels. Not trying to show-off or be a jerk here, just explaining how and why.
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and how do one get access to those elitist circles if one is not a newbish user?
xflowy said:
and how do one get access to those elitist circles if one is not a newbish user?
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I'd like to know as well. I just past 12 years of membership last week. I think that qualifies me as non-noob.
I was here when they were developing for the old Windows Mobile.
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Superguy said:
I'd like to know as well. I just past 12 years of membership last week. I think that qualifies me as non-noob.
I was here when they were developing for the old Windows Mobile.
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Also on year 12 and originally from WM days. Back when HTC was THE phone to own.
Would also be interested in the alternate site. I am not a dev but gladly test pretty much everything.
I miss the old Nexus days easy to root support galore.
jcotterman said:
Also on year 12 and originally from WM days. Back when HTC was THE phone to own.
Would also be interested in the alternate site. I am not a dev but gladly test pretty much everything.
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Yep - cut my teeth on the HTC phones. Still used them off and on up to the 10.
NATF used to do the best WM ROMs back in the day.
So What Should I Do? OnePlus 7 Pro or 7T?
aaryan45 said:
So What Should I Do? OnePlus 7 Pro or 7T?
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7t has the 855+, not sure a out the pro. There is a pro 7t available
hightech316 said:
7t has the 855+, not sure a out the pro. There is a pro 7t available
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My main concern is that, will 7t get great custom ROM support as other OnePlus phones
aaryan45 said:
My main concern is that, will 7t get great custom ROM support as other OnePlus phones
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Why not? Just wait for twrp development. 7 pro, 7T and 7T pro will have same rom and kernal development as the source is almost same.

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