As it happen, I have both versions right now....
These have different hardware and I suspect different cameras too...
The camera on the Chinese version (1STD) produces better pictures than the one on the Qualcomm version (1SW)....in general the TD is always better at focusing the subject and most of the time the colors looks more natural too. There is a slight green/blue hue on the W while the TD tends to be warmer (still more natural in most cases).
If I had the W version alone (without seen the TD) I would have said that the W has a great camera - in fact is surprisingly good for a smartphone...but then once you use the TD you'll have no doubts which is better and I don't think it's a question of taste alone - in term of color hues there might be an element of subjectivity but about the focus there is no mistake - the difference between the 2 is quite striking.
Interestingly....the W version offers more filters and an extra scene (Flowers) and the actual screen quality seems superior - better text and slightly better definition (the 2 use different renderers and it shows).
Then, it might be a software issue where the white balance of the TD version is better calibrated than the W version...
Any idea on why the 2 versions differ so much?
Any link to in depth technical specifications?
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Im curious, the imagesense found on the One X supossedly makes the shutter speed faster, improves the quality on the pictures and videos taken with the phone but they use propietary drivers, so they're not used on AOSP roms like CM10 or AOKP, is the chip never going to be usable on these roms?
Yeah. I like to know that too
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Interesting... I haven't heard about that one. How much difference does it make just out of interest?
chrisoverson said:
Interesting... I haven't heard about that one. How much difference does it make just out of interest?
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Difficult to say, since the images and videos are massively over compressed.
Pretty sure that's the Sense camera app and not the chip, though.
If you mean the sense camera then no..it is possible..but too difficult to get it working on aosp based roms..
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If you mean the sense camera then no..it is possible..but too difficult to get it working on aosp based roms..
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No, no im not refering to sense camera, supossedly the one series phone have a dedicated chip for processing images and videos recording check this:
"HTC was proud to announce that not only are the phones awesome, built extremely well, trimmed down and run fast with HTC Sense, but they’ve also developed a new technology called ImageSense. HTC has actually added a separate processing core for the camera alone. So a dual-core phone will actually have three cores.
The ImageSense chip will not only offload the duties from the regular processor to keep the phone and operating system fast and stable. It will leave the camera completely uninterrupted to take quality, impressive photos. This also allows super-fast shooting possible with a 0.7-second shot time and a 0.2-second autofocus."
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-photos-show-off-new-imagesense-camera-technology-20120302/
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No, no im not refering to sense camera, supossedly the one series phone have a dedicated chip for processing images and videos recording check this:
"HTC was proud to announce that not only are the phones awesome, built extremely well, trimmed down and run fast with HTC Sense, but they’ve also developed a new technology called ImageSense. HTC has actually added a separate processing core for the camera alone. So a dual-core phone will actually have three cores.
The ImageSense chip will not only offload the duties from the regular processor to keep the phone and operating system fast and stable. It will leave the camera completely uninterrupted to take quality, impressive photos. This also allows super-fast shooting possible with a 0.7-second shot time and a 0.2-second autofocus."
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-photos-show-off-new-imagesense-camera-technology-20120302/
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That sounds a bit misguided. The SoC has some space devoted to image processing, it's not another general processing core!
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That sounds a bit misguided. The SoC has some space devoted to image processing, it's not another general processing core!
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Its not another general processing core but its a dedicated discrete chip for the camera so not part of the SOC, could be image processing parts there as well ofc.
Granted this is about the MSM8960 One X but from what I've read the camera stuff is the same for all One S/X models and in part also for One V.
Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/5
"HTC’s ImageChip is responsible for most of the things that would traditionally be done on the SoC ISP. 3A (Autofocus, Auto white balance, and Autoexposure), lens correction (geometric and chromatic correction), noise reduction, best shot selection, continuous auto focus, controlling gains on the CMOS sensor, LED flash level decision, region of interest identification (augmented with face detection) and so on. This is all stuff you can verify yourself by taking apart some of the ISP related files - curiously enough internally ImageChip is actually referred to as “rawchip.” This is also the hardware responsible for enabling HTC’s extremely fast image continuous capture and frame grabbing during video capture (HTC Video Pic). It’s somewhat analogous to what Google and TI did with the OMAP4460 on the Galaxy Nexus, except discrete and with a much more ambitious focus."
More here in the One S review: http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...ug=htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile
Discrete? That surprises me, and I stand corrected.
Guess HTC aren't ambitious enough to expect sales of these phones to be high enough to work it in as a part of the SoC. That's at least a quid to the cost of the phone right there!
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Discrete? That surprises me, and I stand corrected.
Guess HTC aren't ambitious enough to expect sales of these phones to be high enough to work it in as a part of the SoC. That's at least a quid to the cost of the phone right there!
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Guess it enables HTC to have a consistently nice camera experience for users across their phones while picking whatever SOC is best/cheapest/comes with the right air interface for a region or carrier. Lol I feel like a PR parrot after typing that... Anyways IF a dev ever gets it working on AOSP for any device it might be easier to port it to other devices. I hear its not impossible, just a massive undertaking and will bring a lot of Sense framework which is not useful for much besides the camera, or maybe documentation will be released sometime. Now I'm just a hardware nerd with zero programming experience so take that with a grain of salt, I'd love to be proven wrong though
I can imagine the camera apk needing sense, but not the chip driver. Reverse engineering that driver and pulling in its dependencies could be a pain, as well of course as creating a new camera app.
If only there were more hours in the day...
This thread is supposed to gather all the information regarding the state of the Google HDR camera ports for the Exynos version of the S7 and aid the further development.
If you don't know what this is all about please read: https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported/
Only believed to be working on Snapdragon cpus due to the use of the integrated Hexagon image processor later version indeed worked on the Exynos.
As of this year the kickass Portrait mode of the Pixel 2 was added to the mod
Portrait mode on both cameras is now working on S7 Exynos.
The stability of the camera mod currently is not very high and the resulting HDR pictures exceed the stock camera quality only in some special cases like more natural colors in high contrast scenes or higher perceived sharpness due to less denoising. Portrait mode on the other hand is almost always better than the Samsungs "selective focus".
All in all Samsung did a very good job in optimizing the camera as Sony even built the IMX260 camera sensor just for the S7. Please be aware that not all S7 share the same sensor! Some come with the ISOCELL S5K2L1 instead of the SONY IMX260. You can read about the pros and cons of each sensor here: https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s7-isocell-vs-sony-sensor-camera-680266/
Almost all Google camera mods in one place: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
Attention: None of the mods is 100% stable, it may crash or even memory leak and thus force you to reboot your phone as it gets laggy and unresponsive
When posting please always state your ROM, kernel and camera sensor (use AIDA64 from the Play store and check under the "devices" section)
I'll try to keep this thread updated as reference as the other thread is polluted with cross talk about other devices and people not even reading the latest pages of the thread…
Miniuser123, the creator of the portrait mode for Exynos, created another thread...
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You compared the quality of photos from the original camera with, for example, Lineage 17.1 version 2.02.037? I take pictures of A4 pages with text quite often and I noticed that the smaller fonts are not sharp. I did not have the opportunity to compare the quality with the original Sony camera, but with the original Redmi 4x (anyway from the lower shelf) they seemed to be better.
Lots of people praise Gcam ... but I don't know how much better it is.
The last one on Apk mirror is 2.4.1.D.0.51
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/sony-...sony-camera/sony-camera-2-4-1-d-0-51-release/
but I do not know if it fits this phone and what is the latest release directly from Sony and if it can be installed at all if there is no TA partition and the appropriate license keys (Lineage).
The last two discussions:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xa2/help/photo-quality-lineages-vs-stock-t3841671
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xa2/review/photo-quality-t3805828
they are old.
does Asus rog 6 pro compete with the s22 ultra or iphone 13 pro max ?
Nowhere near.
It's definitely a league below, particularly in low light & video quality. A solid B- compared to the A-listers.
It's okay to good, for general social media requirements/ daytime photography.
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does Asus rog 6 pro compete with the s22 ultra or iphone 13 pro max ?
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I looked a lot of review, the right hardware is there, the main problem is the camera software i will try with gcam apk and/or with some other camera application from Google store. Cameras software is the only weak point of this phone
Nope. You don't buy ROG devices if camera quality is a big thing for you. It does the job - that's it.
Try this gcam from BSG and my config file. Tell me what you think. Cheers.
as mentioned by some, the hardware is there but software is bad, even with gcam the results are poor due to bad API implementation.
6D ultimate here - inconsistent performance. sometimes it can be ok, sometimes it's crap.
imprecise blurring for portraits
lacks detail
inconsistent exposure
generally favours day light, and poor with low light
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6D ultimate here - inconsistent performance. sometimes it can be ok, sometimes it's crap.
imprecise blurring for portraits
lacks detail
inconsistent exposure
generally favours day light, and poor with low light
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Snapdragon even worse. Suffers from the exact same issues, however its just worse. It's generally accepted that the camera software is beta at best.
I'd love to see a full proper gcam port done for this phone
This whole phone is obsolete at its price. Everyone knew SD8 Gen 2 is coming shortly after the ROG 6, now it is here and every new phone out there will now smash this gaming phone AND offer a twice as good camera performance at a lower price.
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Try this gcam from BSG and my config file. Tell me what you think. Cheers.
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Thanks a lot for sharing these files.
Does the GCam package automatically replace the standard camera app?
Do you like the improvements?
As others, I believe the hardware itself should be just fine (not sure about the lenses, though) but the software is letting the phone down regarding IQ out of the box.
TomKay said:
Thanks a lot for sharing these files.
Does the GCam package automatically replace the standard camera app?
Do you like the improvements?
As others, I believe the hardware itself should be just fine (not sure about the lenses, though) but the software is letting the phone down regarding IQ out of the box.
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Hi, it does not replace the stock app, it is just another app like any other app. And yes, the improvements are there, for sure. Try it !
Any update app or config?
Latoc said:
Hi, it does not replace the stock app, it is just another app like any other app. And yes, the improvements are there, for sure. Try it !
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Thanks, will do!
So how's your 11T?
I come from only HTC phones and the 1st difference i noticed is the screen quality in PPI's.
My prev HTC U11 from 5yrs ago is having more ppi's than a 2022 model making look inferior in screen quality and color management.
I understand that for this processor theres not much going on.
Updated to A12 is great all running smooth and sharp.
Anyways its a great phone, found HTC home and instaled as a tribute...
Would be cool to see some dev on this device.
Share your thoughts!
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So how's your 11T?
I come from only HTC phones and the 1st difference i noticed is the screen quality in PPI's.
My prev HTC U11 from 5yrs ago is having more ppi's than a 2022 model making look inferior in screen quality and color management.
I understand that for this processor theres not much going on.
Updated to A12 is great all running smooth and sharp.
Anyways its a great phone, found HTC home and instaled as a tribute...
Would be cool to see some dev on this device.
Share your thoughts!
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Devs can't develop for this device cuz mediatek is closed source
Sent from Xiaomi 11T using gboard
Phone is awesome performance wise but this feature called miravision causes shadow detail lose, and detail lose in black areas, adds saturation. It does a mandatory extra post processing on the creator's video. It can't be turned off, that's why I'm considering switching to a new phone. Because even my old LCD phone was better.
Disable hardware overlays, blocks Miravision. But in this way, the charge runs out noticeably faster.
An option to turn this off definitely has to be added. It's unbelievable that they added it by force.
I got screen burn in about a month ago after 14.0.2 update I think it's a good phone, but the mics have too much echo at school. My old S10 didn't do that