Hey guys, so I'm going Tablet hunting and have come down with 2 leading candidates, the Pipo M7 Pro, a Chinese Tablet. or the Nexus 7 (2013).
The only thing that worries me is the development. As a Flashaholic I'd like a tablet with decent dev support, and I haven't seen any dev support for the Pipo M7 Pro.
Now, the Nexus 7 Multi touch and GPS/random reboot issues have me here at bay, making the debate a bit more intense.
I'll probably use my tablet for reading, school related work or gaming/listening to music (rarely though, I'll probably have my Galaxy Nexus for that which works fine really(or a Nexus 5 by the time it comes out ))
Any recommendations/Opinions/Point of views will be appreciated.
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Nexus 7, most of not all the "issues"with it are a very vocal minority, overflowing a small problem, of it were half as big an issue as they try to make ir to bbr, ir would be all the blogs
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Small, yes.
Vocal, yes.
Very real, though. And, to some degree, acknowledged by the powers that be at Google...
The people posting, including myself, have been through 2-3 of more N7 2013s.
It's the luck of the draw. It may only effect a few percent, but over the multi thousands sold, it's a percentage that needs to be taken seriously.
If you purchase one, be sure that it's from a seller offering a good return/exchange policy.
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Nexus 7, most of not all the "issues"with it are a very vocal minority, overflowing a small problem, of it were half as big an issue as they try to make ir to bbr, ir would be all the blogs
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Mostly every blog I've read mentions it. But I guess I'm just on that "unlucky and unconventional" part of the internet.
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Been thru quite a few "shows" ... the TF101, the 2012 Nexus 7 & now the 2013 Nexus 7...
I still don't hesitate a bit to buy one. Heck, I even wish there is a refurbished sales right now.
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Small, yes.
Vocal, yes.
Very real, though. And, to some degree, acknowledged by the powers that be at Google...
The people posting, including myself, have been through 2-3 of more N7 2013s.
It's the luck of the draw. It may only effect a few percent, but over the multi thousands sold, it's a percentage that needs to be taken seriously.
If you purchase one, be sure that it's from a seller offering a good return/exchange policy.
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So it is a hardware issue? And not software related?
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Your guess is as good as theirs right now....
Chinese stuff is just not up to par as brand name stuff yet. Their specs look great, benchmarks are great, but in reality they are far far apart when you use both side by side.
I have a Ifive X2 with a RK3188 and it lags like hell, battery is good, screen is nice, but real world performance is just awful. Since I got my Note 8 from repair, I dont use the X2 at all anymore.
For the small price difference it just makes no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7.
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Chinese stuff is just not up to par as brand name stuff yet.
I have a Ifive X2 with a RK3188 and it lags like hell, battery is good, screen is nice, but real world performance is just awful.
For the small price difference it just makes no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7.
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This Pipo M7 Pro isn't a fastest tablet in the world and after a bit of customizations is in real world usable. The screen is impressive, good battery, very good Wi-Fi and the firmware is stable. I don't regret my (old ) Nexus 7
M7 is great for browsing internet, reading books and multimedia but not too suited for video games.
I am satisfied but not enthusiastic.
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This Pipo M7 Pro isn't a fastest tablet in the world and after a bit of customizations is in real world usable. The screen is impressive, good battery, very good Wi-Fi and the firmware is stable. I don't regret my (old ) Nexus 7
M7 is great for browsing internet, reading books and multimedia but not too suited for video games.
I am satisfied but not enthusiastic.
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Thank you for your opinion.
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Chinese stuff is just not up to par as brand name stuff yet. Their specs look great, benchmarks are great, but in reality they are far far apart when you use both side by side.
I have a Ifive X2 with a RK3188 and it lags like hell, battery is good, screen is nice, but real world performance is just awful. Since I got my Note 8 from repair, I dont use the X2 at all anymore.
For the small price difference it just makes no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7.
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Pipo is a pretty good Chinese company, we're not just talking about those ripoff chinese companies you find on Ebay, and I have used Rockchip based devices and can vouch for them, they're not as bad as you say.
So your "no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7" is kind of stereotypical and not really reliable
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Thank you for your opinion.
Pipo is a pretty good Chinese company, we're not just talking about those ripoff chinese companies you find on Ebay, and I have used Rockchip based devices and can vouch for them, they're not as bad as you say.
So your "no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7" is kind of stereotypical and not really reliable
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First,
I agree with the above line in bold.
Second,
If you aren't in a hurry to buy a tablet, I'd wait to see what the TegraTab and the LG G Pad 8.3 end up being like. That's what I'm going to do when I return/exchange my N7 flo for the 3rd time. I'm on my 2nd one now, so hopefully the 3rd try will be the the charm! I expect both those options to be more expensive, but if either of them is within 100 of the 32gb N7 flo (as long as it's 32gb or 16gb with a microsd), then I'll probably give it a shot.
Third,
If you absolutely want a tablet right now, I can't recommend the N7 in good conscience. Having had two with the same exact issue(multitouch), I would say the odds are pretty good that you'd get one with the same issue. That said, if the N7 is what you like and you don't mind potentially returning/exchanging it, get one. Just be sure to buy from somewhere with a good return/exchange program. I've had pretty good luck with Best Buy so far, as well as Amazon. I'd choose Best Buy if there's one near you for ease of returning/exchanging, i.e. no wait time.
Good Luck!
Jimlarck said:
Thank you for your opinion.
Pipo is a pretty good Chinese company, we're not just talking about those ripoff chinese companies you find on Ebay, and I have used Rockchip based devices and can vouch for them, they're not as bad as you say.
So your "no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7" is kind of stereotypical and not really reliable
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I have one of the latest and greatest Chinese tabs as I write in my post.
Yes they are better then what they used to be but they still lack in some aspects. These tabs using the RK3188 chip in real life are just not want the benchmarks want you to believe. The Chinese keep cutting corners where they shouldn't and it shows. So yeah it looks like you get a lot for 200$ but when you use it you understand why its cheaper.
It's no surprise that all the high end Chinese tabs and phones end up using Qualcomm and Samsung CPUs and cost almost the same as brand name stuff.
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I have one of the latest and greatest Chinese tabs as I write in my post.
Yes they are better then what they used to be but they still lack in some aspects. These tabs using the RK3188 chip in real life are just not want the benchmarks want you to believe. The Chinese keep cutting corners where they shouldn't and it shows. So yeah it looks like you get a lot for 200$ but when you use it you understand why its cheaper.
It's no surprise that all the high end Chinese tabs and phones end up using Qualcomm and Samsung CPUs and cost almost the same as brand name stuff.
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Since when are benchmarks actually safe, legitimate and trustworthy?
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Since when are benchmarks actually safe, legitimate and trustworthy?
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They are not, but fans of Chinese stuff like to go crazy about them and use them to compare with brand name products. If I see two products with similar scores I would expect similar function but clearly it's not the case.
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I had Asus Infinity TF700T before, but I was very disappointed about the build quality and the lagging of the device. I hated that tab every moment. I didn't install custom rom because it required unlocking the device and loosing the warranty. So I sold it and bought Pipo M7pro.
I like the screen and size of the tablet and this is much faster and smoother than Asus TF700. Also the build quality is better than on Asus, which had loose screen even repaired three times for warranty.
Multi window feature is pretty cool! Check the video from youtube.
I'm really satisfied of this cheap Chinese tab!
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So after reading some of your messages and doing some more research on my own. I've decided to wait until October, if the Nexus 7 multitouch problems have been resolved (they're addressing the problem at their warehouses/manufacturers or fixed it on an update) I'll buy it, if not, then Pipo M7 Pro will have to be my choice.
Really like the N7 but what use is there buying it when chances are that I'll get a broken Tablet, no, I can wait, I trust Google that they'll resolve this soon, it isn't the first time they've encountered a problem with manufacturers, like the N4 for example, with the infamous exploding back(I did think it was spontaneous and comical so I did have a laugh about it, hopefully the owners got a replacement though)
Thank you all for your messages and opinions. Especially those who gave their completely unbiased opinion and thoughts.
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So after reading some of your messages and doing some more research on my own. I've decided to wait until October, if the Nexus 7 multitouch problems have been resolved (they're addressing the problem at their warehouses/manufacturers or fixed it on an update) I'll buy it, if not, then Pipo M7 Pro will have to be my choice.
Really like the N7 but what use is there buying it when chances are that I'll get a broken Tablet, no, I can wait, I trust Google that they'll resolve this soon, it isn't the first time they've encountered a problem with manufacturers, like the N4 for example, with the infamous exploding back(I did think it was spontaneous and comical so I did have a laugh about it, hopefully the owners got a replacement though)
Thank you all for your messages and opinions. Especially those who gave their completely unbiased opinion and thoughts.
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I think the Chinese phones and tablets may have some issues but then again so do other phones. In my opinion it is best to wait for a very comprehensive review before you buy. And only buy from a near-by supplier that is willing to take it back if it is faulty, do not buy direct from China because it is unlikely to get your money back, plus the shipping costs and customs would make it uneconomical to return items.
For example, a year ago I bought a Chinese phone, with superb specifications. It seems to have two faults (at least). First, it is very fussy with the SD card, many applications do not work with it and especially GPS Navigation applications that store huge maps on the SD card. Secondly the GPS receiver is either broken or simply very, very bad. My dedicated Garmin GPS, my wife's iPhone4, my son's Samsung S3 : they all lock on to the GPS almost instantly. The Chinese phone needs to be absolutely stand still for like 5-10 minutes before it can lock on. Completely useless in the car for example, I have to stop the car, and then wait 5-10 minutes so it can lock.
Someone said above that high-end Chinese phones and tabs use Qualcomm and Samsung parts and not their own. Well, no **** Sherlock! That qualifies as one of the most idiotic statements I have read. Every single electronic device in the world uses parts made by various/hundreds of other manufacturers. This has always been the case. I would not expect the Pipo M7 Pro to have components made by Pipo - and it does not matter anyway. My Sony VAIO laptop does not use a "SONY" CPU, or chipset, or GPU, or memory, or capacitors, or resistors, actually I doubt that a single component inside my laptop is actually made by Sony, except perhaps the badge!!!
I have to say, I bought the 2012 N7 as well as my 2013 and both were flawless from the start. My fiancee got my 2012 when i bought my new one and it's still going strong. The only issue I have at all with the 2013 is a delayed wake when using a magnetic cover. That's obviously a software issue, as leaving Bluetooth on fixes the problem.
Oh and Zilliman, your Chinese phone sounds like my old Samsung Captivate. That thing had the worst GPS I've ever seen. Developers worked hard to fix it but it was never very good. Completely useless even when walking, let alone driving.
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I have to say, I bought the 2012 N7 as well as my 2013 and both were flawless from the start. My fiancee got my 2012 when i bought my new one and it's still going strong. The only issue I have at all with the 2013 is a delayed wake when using a magnetic cover. That's obviously a software issue, as leaving Bluetooth on fixes the problem.
Oh and Zilliman, your Chinese phone sounds like my old Samsung Captivate. That thing had the worst GPS I've ever seen. Developers worked hard to fix it but it was never very good. Completely useless even when walking, let alone driving.
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Here's a problem for those with N7 Pro : the speakers crackle at high volume.
Do not buy M7 Pro
OK I guess finally I may have something to help after getting so many helps from this nice forum.
I live in China and I'd say I'm quite familiar with Chinese tablets and nexus devices. (proud owner of both types) I've yet to find a Chinese native brand tablet that marches either Nexus 7's build quality or OS stability. (always search for teardown pics before decision) Usually they have small problems here or there, but you don't have a bug list and workaround thread in a good forum simply because they don't have enough users.
There are worth buying Chinese tablets though. They are usually much cheaper than Nexus 7, don't have fatal problems, have good user base and forums to post workarounds of those small issues, and recently they start to come in so many varieties of screen size. (there used to be a time when they are mainly 7" widescreen, before the mighty Nexus 7's arrival.)
IMHO if you prefer 7" tablet, just grab the new Nexus 7. If not, don't buy M7 Pro for the following reasons:
1 Rockchip is not as friendly to devs as its rival SoC company Allwinner. I can find unofficial CM10.2 on AllWinner platform but I find almost nothing on Rockchip;
2 RK3188 seems strong, but in practice it's not a good chip for HD "Retina" display due to poor design choice of a single channel 32bit memory controller, which results a memory bandwidth that nearly kills GPU performance. BTW that's just a fraction of bandwidth compared to the new Nexus 7. I heard the GPU performance is so poor that even stock launcher can't go butterly smooth.
However RK3188 + a 1024*768 display is fine.
Summary: don't buy RK3188+HD display like the M7 Pro; strongly recommend new Nexus 7
correction: No Chinese SoC performs well on 1080p display. I'd guess 720p is the limit.
Hope it helps
Hi All,
Was thinking of buying a Huawei P6 for a self xmas present. I wanted to know how you guys like your phones and what is your overall impressions?
Any major issues you're encountering after using it for a while?
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Hi All,
Was thinking of buying a Huawei P6 for a self xmas present. I wanted to know how you guys like your phones and what is your overall impressions?
Any major issues you're encountering after using it for a while?
Thanks!
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Its good phone and gets better and better every day. About the development i mean. If you have small budjet, buy this. You wont get better phone on this price. If you have more money, spend them to some other phone
Agrees with Blunt. And personally, I am quite happy and without any regrets, fits for my needs and cant think of anything to replace it (except for incorporating some features of moto x and lg g2 ). Plus i don't think i would be happy with a phone that looks and feels worse than P6 when i buy the next phone. It Increased my benchmark of what next phone should be.
But then much of it also depends on what you use your phone for and how compatible with your needs.
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But then much of it also depends on what you use your phone for and how compatible with your needs.
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That's a good point. I carry two phones with me--personal and work. I could look for a dual SIM but I don't mind carrying two if they're both Slim. I'm coming from a Galaxy S2 which I love to death, but I'm realizing the phone needs a slightly bigger screen, faster and a little less heating up. Form factor is high on the list for me and the S2 has been great in this department. My work phone is an Galaxy S1 and the two of these phones together has been great.
In terms of usage:
One day battery life on moderate usage is ok for me. I have push email on for 3 email accounts and use BBM/whatsapp/trillian.
I really think the P6 is a legitimate upgrade that stays within my requirements. Curious if you guys think the same
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That's a good point. I carry two phones with me--personal and work. I could look for a dual SIM but I don't mind carrying two if they're both Slim. I'm coming from a Galaxy S2 which I love to death, but I'm realizing the phone needs a slightly bigger screen, faster and a little less heating up. Form factor is high on the list for me and the S2 has been great in this department. My work phone is an Galaxy S1 and the two of these phones together has been great.
In terms of usage:
One day battery life on moderate usage is ok for me. I have push email on for 3 email accounts and use BBM/whatsapp/trillian.
I really think the P6 is a legitimate upgrade that stays within my requirements. Curious if you guys think the same
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There are users who moved from S3 to P6 and quite happy. So definitely S1 and S2 users would be happy.
P6 battery would be more than sufficient for such usage you mentioned. Only really heavy browsers and gamers should be concerned about battery on P6.
Other than that, it seems the only contender to P6 in the price range is Nexus 5 (unless the Nexus 5 is too high in your market) although I personally am not impressed with it. .
But then you should certainly wait a couple weeks more. There is the upgraded version of P6 named P6S releasing on December 18. The P6S is expected to be same price of P6 in which case, the price of P6 would cut down. Furthermore watch out for winter offers in your area. The P6S btw would be having a better CPU that is more battery efficient, which is always a plus. And it would also have LTE.
Hey guys... Im changing my phone into either a samsung galaxy s5 or a LG G3 this weekend but i am in a dilemma to choose between the 2 great phones. First off all i am someone who constantly gets my phone "wet" ( you know what i mean) and thats why ive been considering the s5 BUT i found out that the G3 had way better camera and display factors. However, the G3 did not produce a water resistant feature, i need some help to choose between the 2. Thanks!!
There is a youtube post where the g3 is put under water for quite some time without getting damaged. Just google it it seems legit. I would not recommend anyone doing it themselves but my guess is it would survive a splash. I was in the same situation as you 2 weeks ago. I must say im happy i didnt take the s5. This phone feels like the right choice but it is your call
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There is a youtube post where the g3 is put under water for quite some time without getting damaged. Just google it it seems legit. I would not recommend anyone doing it themselves but my guess is it would survive a splash. I was in the same situation as you 2 weeks ago. I must say im happy i didnt take the s5. This phone feels like the right choice but it is your call
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LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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S5 old Samsung problem... cheap components (whatever components these are). 3 to 6 months it gets slow, the battery grows almost to the point to explode. IDK the situation for everyone, but the quality of Samsung in Brazil is absolutely **** and people still buy.
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Hey guys... Im changing my phone into either a samsung galaxy s5 or a LG G3 this weekend but i am in a dilemma to choose between the 2 great phones. First off all i am someone who constantly gets my phone "wet" ( you know what i mean) and thats why ive been considering the s5 BUT i found out that the G3 had way better camera and display factors. However, the G3 did not produce a water resistant feature, i need some help to choose between the 2. Thanks!!
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No I don't know, I've never gotten my phone wet lol... Wait one of is being sarcastic......
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Thanks you guys... That really helped in making my decision. Looking foward to my G3 this weekend!!
Good decision!
Ordered mine yesterday, took me some days to decide between the actual flagships.
- Sony Xperia Z2: nothing outstanding
- Samsung S5: I don´t like the design, i don´t like Samsung and i don´t want to have the same phone most others have. And all Samsung phones i had in my hands are suffering by the same: out in the sun it is realy hard to see anything on the display.
These two where out fast!
- HTC ONE M8: I´m on a HTC ONE X+ at the moment and i´m very happy with it. The M8 has a great design and the best speakers out there, plenty of custum roms out there to play around and no problems with a locked bootloader. But a 4MP-Camera is at the lower limit and what bothered me most was the waste of space. The M8 is only 4mm smaller and is a litlle thicker than the G3 and only has a 5'' Display!
AND THE WINNER IS: LG G3!!!
I had a LG OPTIMUS Black those days and it is still working fine.
For the G3 the only negative i found is this damned locked bootloader!
PLZ LG have mercy with us! We need the fun to play around with a mass of custom roms! Let the great developers out there unleash their potential!
XPOSED & TWEAKBOX i´m comming !
THX to all developers out there working already on it to get the best out of ours G3s.
Well I own a G3 but I gotta say the S5 has better battery life (and that very useful Ultra Power Saving mode), Camera is arguably better or equal, and I really like the Super AMOLED screen on it which won awards for best in industry.
The Waterproof feature is a great bonus.
I prefer the G3's build, design and UI though and its neat software features
Hi guys i'm from italy and i'm trying to buy a tablet. Use is only university and some videos. I found this second hand (still 1 year warrancy, not really used) lg g pad 8.3 at 150€ (ie 170$, 110£ for those of you who aren't from europe )
First question is: is it an affordable price? Only wifi version
Then, i would ask you about the battery life, and if it is still good (no lagging, fluid) through everyday use. I have a nexus 5 which i consider very responsive and very good, is it comparable? And what about a comparison with the ipad mini one (in italy has the same average price of 150€ for a second hand) ? It is older but it is still a good device. Do you think lg g pad would win 10-0?
Thanks guys!
150€ is quite a good price in Italy where most tech things seem to be more expensive than normal! Against iPad mini it wins hands down except maybe screen brightness.
Nexus 5 has s800 and Adreno 330 while this has s600 and adreno 320. It's very fluid, but there's some lag here and there sometimes when playing heavy games. And it has micro sd slot, so it's great to store movies! It also has a premium build quality.
Well I bought my G pad twice the price 300€ new about 1 year ago! Go for it
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150€ is quite a good price in Italy where most tech things seem to be more expensive than normal! Against iPad mini it wins hands down except maybe screen brightness.
Nexus 5 has s800 and Adreno 330 while this has s600 and adreno 320. It's very fluid, but there's some lag here and there sometimes when playing heavy games. And it has micro sd slot, so it's great to store movies! It also has a premium build quality.
Well I bought my G pad twice the price 300€ new about 1 year ago! Go for it
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thanks a lot mate, you convinced me. Btw does it have official lollipop or it is still at 4.4?
and what about custom roms? I'm used to my N5 so i have a large option does the gpad increases a lot his performances with custom roms?
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thanks a lot mate, you convinced me. Btw does it have official lollipop or it is still at 4.4?
and what about custom roms? I'm used to my N5 so i have a large option does the gpad increases a lot his performances with custom roms?
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Only Korea and some Asian countries have lollipop for now! Verizon version as well. The rest are still waiting for an ota. The Korean version which is the same as international version can be flashed through pc via a custom lg flash tool 2014, thread in general section! Check devpt section for other custom roms which u may want to use. There's only minor improvements in custom roms. I prefer lg rom since my phone has cm12 just to not feel bored about vanilla Android.
Most of us here are using the Korean lollipop rom since it was available back in May or else you'll have to keep waiting for an ota to appear.
Excellent price for one. I would buy in a heartbeat at that price.
yes i did, btw i'm very happy about it. Waiting for the lollipop ota
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yes i did, btw i'm very happy about it. Waiting for the lollipop ota
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Welcome to the club!
Cheers!
I bought mine few days ago for 250$, I know it is high price nowadays, but it was sold in my country, new straight from shop I don't like waiting a lot for electronic things.
And you know what? I am sooo happy that I did buy it, haven't touched my laptop since downloaded all the stuff for g pad (lollipop etc.)?
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So I have been racking my brain on what phone to buy my Nexus 6 is on its last leg and I just would like something new. So do you guys like your phone? Has it been worth it? I do like the look and I would probably be running an AOSP ROM of some kind but I'm more concerned with the Hardware? Have you guys had any major issues that would make it a deal breaker? So Otherwise I've always used the Nexus line but I just can't afford a Pixel so I'm kinda have been torn on what phone to buy a Nexus 6p, Moto G5, Honor 7, or maybe an HTC 10 or a U11 or a OnePlus 3t if I can find one cheap enough. I would like to keep it under 250$ 300$ max. Thx for all your help...
Also, development is important to me.:good::good:
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So I have been racking my brain on what phone to buy my Nexus 6 is on its last leg and I just would like something new. So do you guys like your -------------buy a Nexus 6p, Moto G5, Honor 7, or maybe an HTC 10 or a U11 or a OnePlus 3t if I can find one cheap enough. I would like to keep it under 250$ 300$ max. Thx for all your help...
Also, development is important to me.:good::good:
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Interested in development and custom ROMs!! then better stay away from this device. The scene might change once Oreo gets released but no one is sure when it will come.
P.S. There is no stock firmware yet for this device to restore.
If you don't need NFC or quick charge I believe you'll be happy with this phone. There's a few parameters I want in a phone and this has them---
#1---Battery life. I have NEVER had a phone with battery life like this one. I have had the Samsung note 5, Note 3, S4 active, LG g3 and a few others...even from day one there's no comparison. For example, yesterday I was on my phone texting throughout the super bowl (Philly here ) streaming MP3's, browsing the internet, etc. When I got home at midnight my phone was on 79%. Simply amazing.
#2---screen..it's essentially a 1080P screen and images are crisp and detailed. Compared to my Note 5, it's not as good side by side, but it's marginal. Still very acceptable
#3--- Speed and customization. Both are very acceptable and scrolling etc is smooth on most items but occasionally is quirky especially scrolling through group texts. Must be a bug or something.
#4---Photos are a little over saturated in daylight shots but I believe they're better than ALL of my previous Samsung phones. I have not really experimented with darker scenes and can't tell about that. Also, I've been using the standard setting for now and believe photos will get better as I adjust them
#5---form factor. It's a slim phone in every way and seems smaller but I guess being "bezel-less" makes it appear so...
Depending on your budget, you might consider the Huawei Mate 9. You can still buy new units and some vendors are starting to give steep discounts--B&H Photo sold their stock off at around $350 to make way for new models. Huawei's Oreo Beta has been rolled out to this phone. It's got a great Leica dual lens camera with a true B&W camera (check out the photos in the XDA Developers forum for the camera), NFC and a 4000MaH battery. I've given up waiting for Huawei to decide on whether they're really going to bring the Honor V10 to North America, the Mate 9 and Mate 10 (original, not Pro) top my list for a replacement phone. If you live in a large city, read Amazon reviews of the 7X. The lack of 2 WIFI bands is causing some people to return the 7X because WIFI congestion is keeping the phone from operating well on WIFI.
Well Thx everyone I am semi tempted to jump on one and I have looked at the Mate 9 some and I might try and pick one up before too long. I also might just grab a Nexus 6p I found one for 125$ and it seems fine and then maybe save up for something in the future. I am also reading that all kinds of phones are having proximity sensor problems after updating to Oreo and I think that's one of the problems my nexus 6 is having and I cant fix it no matter what I try from app to xposed apps. So IDK we will see thx for your help as well I still am halfway tempted to grab one of these just to give it a shot for the price it seems nice and I don't live in a huge city so I would hope my wifi would be ok.
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Well Thx everyone I am semi tempted to jump on one and I have looked at the Mate 9 some and I might try and pick one up before too long. I also might just grab a Nexus 6p I found one for 125$ and it seems fine and then maybe save up for something in the future. I am also reading that all kinds of phones are having proximity sensor problems after updating to Oreo and I think that's one of the problems my nexus 6 is having and I cant fix it no matter what I try from app to xposed apps. So IDK we will see thx for your help as well I still am halfway tempted to grab one of these just to give it a shot for the price it seems nice and I don't live in a huge city so I would hope my wifi would be ok.
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Good luck. All your options sound good. It's too bad Huawei decided to only include one WIFI band in the 7X, knowing they planned on marketing this in North America, where WIFI adoption is so widespread that 2 bands are essential to avoid congestion issues for all those in large urban areas. It will not be cost effective in the long run, given how many potential customers are affected by WIFI congestion, and clearly shows that a Chinese-dominated staff is making serious missteps in markets outside of China. Huawei desperately needs to hire western technical consulting companies and actually listen to them . They build beautiful and dependable phones that rival all their competitors. It's silly missteps like this that can mar their brand reputation. I think all the other cost cutting steps for the 7X are fine.
Having just 2.4ghz doesn't bother me much although I think they still should have added 5ghz. An old Lenovo K3 Note phone which I don't use anymore only had 2.4ghz also, however a custom rom allowed it to have 5ghz turned on. I wonder if it was hidden on this phone also.
The 2.4ghz on the Honor 7x connects to my router at half the speed my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 does.