Hi, Recently i bought a new phone and my old one DHD is still working, i dont want to waste my DHD and leave it there.
So i decided to use them both together.
But my problem is i only got 1 SDcard. i would like my new phone to have the sdcard.
As a result my DHD dont have any sdcard, it can boot, but some app doesn't work(directly Force close).
I know that DHD has a little difference on the path of sdcard comparing to the new android devices.
My knowledge is
New android devices:
external sd < Which is the sdcard physically i have, named under storage\sdcard1
internal sd < which is partitioned from the internal storage of the phone, named under storage\sdcard0
DHD
just one folder named under storage\sdcard0
i consider it as the dhd devices think the external sd as an internal sd to work.
Hmmm. sorry for poor english.
Thanks
Yes. It will work. I suggest though that after flashing a ROM,to not download too many apps as this will take up your internal memory and bog down your phone.
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Yes. It will work. I suggest though that after flashing a ROM,to not download too many apps as this will take up your internal memory and bog down your phone.
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THX for yr quick reply, but
what can i do with those app that are forced close without sdcard?
they are original broswer, camera (i tried another camera app called camera zoom which can define a user path for the saving photos, but i fail on defining a folder on the root directory)
I would uninstall and reinstall them. They are "fragmented"
Or clean flash a ROM and don't download any apps.
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I have been loading all the roms and just realised my sdcard is getting filled.. therefore can format my sdcard?? Will it remove the rom or change the S-off or brick my phone??
Can replace my 8gb sdcard with 32gb sdcard? Should i do anything extra to make sure it remains rooted?
Can force close be caused only by software issues or even hardware?? I ask this coz a month back i had dropped my phone and it did not start for couple of hours. After that i have being having issues with many roms and many apps esp market force closing and the clockwork recovery not flashing properly...
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Your OS is installed in the internal storage of your device, not your SD Card. Formatiing your SD Card does nothing to your ROM at all. Force Closing is most probably a permission issue. Try Fix Permission in ROM Manager.
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Your OS is installed in the internal storage of your device, not your SD Card. Formatiing your SD Card does nothing to your ROM at all. Force Closing is most probably a permission issue. Try Fix Permission in ROM Manager.
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Thanks Armedand...
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MEkANiK said:
I have been loading all the roms and just realised my sdcard is getting filled..
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Do you mean you are keeping the ROM files, and/or nandroid backups on your SD card? After you flash a ROM, you can get rid of the zip file. Or copy it to your desktop computer, if you think you might want it again in the future.
Similar thing with nandroid backups. I usually just keep the most recent one on my SD, and move the rest to my PC.
Some apps save data to the SD card. If you want to upgrade to a larger SD, just copy the files you need (or think you might need) to your desktop computer from the SD, then copy them to the new SD card, and swap the cards out. Upgrading the SD card is that simple.
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Do you mean you are keeping the ROM files, and/or nandroid backups on your SD card? After you flash a ROM, you can get rid of the zip file. Or copy it to your desktop computer, if you think you might want it again in the future.
Similar thing with nandroid backups. I usually just keep the most recent one on my SD, and move the rest to my PC.
Some apps save data to the SD card. If you want to upgrade to a larger SD, just copy the files you need (or think you might need) to your desktop computer from the SD, then copy them to the new SD card, and swap the cards out. Upgrading the SD card is that simple.
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Not the zip files but the original rom which installed.. i asked this bcoz when rooting i had to create gold card change the value and so on.. so i wasn't sure if that would be affected if i formatted the sdcard or deleted all the folders ..
i have trying out many softwares, and now i dont even remember which is ones i have removed and which is need(lots of folders, some where created by some roms i hard tried)... since i always backup imp data on my pc.. i have no worries there..
just wanted to clean up whole thing since i have figured out all most all the sw i will need..
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Hey Guys,
I just recently bought my wife a 64gb micro sdcard and I was hoping I could make it the default storage for everything if possible.
What I meant about that is for caching like maps, dropbox, fxcamera, maxgo, hbogo, and many more. ( it is currently located at /sdcard0/Android/data ).
Another thing is for some apps like whatsapp/groupme/viber, to save videos/pictures there. There seems to be no settings in whatsapp to save attachments to the external.
The only thing I've managed so far is to set the camera to save to the ext sdcard, that is about it!
Is there a way to move /sdcard/Android/Data to the external SD card?
Also, is there a way to install apps to the external sd instead of internal? She just had the phone in 10 days and it is almost full
Thanks!
EDIT: Wife GN2 is stock, unrooted -> will not root ever
EDIT 2: I just read that you can't move apps to the EXT SDCard anymore with JB - but that is fine as long as I can assign cache/default directory storage of apps to the External SD .. if someone knows how to
BUMP!
I just did a lot of research and found out that with GS3 and GN2 you can't transfer app to ext SD or install apps on the ext SD anymore when in stock.
Wow, that is so bad! Three big games would fill the 16gb already. I'm pretty sure Google has a good reason for that.
Anyway, some features of the GN2 like burst shot does not allow to save pictures to the external sd card (which is fine) but is there a way to automatically transfer files from internal to sdcard, while deleting files from the internal files while doing the process. It is like rsync in Linux.
As much as possible I want the GN2 to purely use the external SD instead of the internal.
Any app that can do that? Unrooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1931500
That is what I use & make sure you are running a custom kernel (eg: persues) to get the addon to work.
RMXO said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1931500
That is what I use & make sure you are running a custom kernel (eg: persues) to get the addon to work.
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Thanks for the info. Too bad its for my wife. She does not want her phone to be rooted.
keplenk said:
Thanks for the info. Too bad its for my wife. She does not want her phone to be rooted.
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you're going to be very limited since your wife doesn't want to be rooted.
Hi I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now and still haven't been able to find a fix (without rooting). After I updated JB from Kies when it came out my internal and memory card folders are completely different? Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory. The internal memory folder says :sdcard0. And my memory card folder is: extSdCard? I'm not rooted. Does anyone know how to get the folders back to the regular names ext sd ect? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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Hi I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now and still haven't been able to find a fix (without rooting). After I updated JB from Kies when it came out my internal and memory card folders are completely different? Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory. The internal memory folder says :sdcard0. And my memory card folder is: extSdCard? I'm not rooted. Does anyone know how to get the folders back to the regular names ext sd ect? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
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That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
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Yhea, i'm having some trouble too. After the update my extCard is totally mess-up. The folders with the pictures and songs are not recognized, and the Gallery doesn't show hundreds of pictures, but i see if i use a file manager. I've synced all my songs so far, but with the pictures is a mess: seems also the format is not recognized anymore and with Kies i'm not seeing a way for put the pictures in the new folder named "Photo". It's really frustrating.
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That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
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I cannot use the Apps2sd app anymore. And basically I would just like to be like before the update.
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i'll try not to rant too hard but Kies and OTA firmware updates are a joke. you are essentially dirty flashing one rom over another with no real clearing of caches, no resetting, no way for all the programs to regroup, rebuild and run on the system hardware/software properly. the thing about dirty flashing is, it sticks well with some devices but generally not with many others. you'll see these types of issues many times among the avid flashers and those that must have the latest release of a developers rom.
i would recommend backing everything up, booting into stock recovery, wiping data/factory reset and wiping cache. if you decide to perform another update via kies in the future, i would do this procedure before AND after the update.
yes, you have to start over when you perform these sorts of actions but you have to ask yourself, are you happy with how your device is performing now (before the update)? is it worth starting over? (it might be if you're going to run on the updated OS for a year or so) and how well do you want it to perform after you install the update?
cheers
EDIT: i just assume everyone accesses recovery and download mode so i didnt post the button combo. recovery is: Volume Up + Home + Power. release just the power button when you get a vibrate.
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Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory.
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This is normal for a 16GB SGS3. 16GB is advertised but actual formatted available space is less. 11.95GB is right on par. This is the case for just about all devices that have memory that is writable, including hard drives on a computer.
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I cannot use the Apps2sd app anymore. And basically I would just like to be like before the update.
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Any particular reason why you are using Apps2sd? $10 to $20 will land you an external memory card with huge amounts of space (32GB at least). This is plenty to store music, photos, and other misc. files. And even with a ton of apps installed to internal, you still should have ample space left over. There is just no good reason to use Apps2sd on this phone as it has so much internal memory. If this is just to keep you from losing data, then I would suggest rooting and using an app such as Titanium Backup as it makes it super easy to restore apps and the corresponding data after anything that requires a factory reset.
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Yhea, i'm having some trouble too. After the update my extCard is totally mess-up. The folders with the pictures and songs are not recognized, and the Gallery doesn't show hundreds of pictures, but i see if i use a file manager. I've synced all my songs so far, but with the pictures is a mess: seems also the format is not recognized anymore and with Kies i'm not seeing a way for put the pictures in the new folder named "Photo". It's really frustrating.
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As stated by xBeerDroidx, factory reset from stock recovery. You will have to re-setup your device but it will be a one time frustration for now until the next update.
As stated by xBeerDroidx, factory reset from stock recovery. You will have to re-setup your device but it will be a one time frustration for now until the next update.
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Actually i did.
After the update, without factory reset, everything was (almost) fine… except a strange malfunction of the Gps (lock signal lost after a while) and sporadic reboot without reason. For the Gps I’ve found here the solution (NV Rebuild), but for the reboot… I wasn’t sure about it. So I decided for a factory reset. After that my ext card, with the ICS paths, was not recognized. So bucked up everything, format the ext card and let Kies sync my files and create all the folders needed from JB: Camera Photo Video for pictures, and media for the music. Now I’m let’s say 90% ready to go… I’m curios to test especially the Gps.
Hello,
Im experiencing really weird problem that never happened to me and now Im trying to find a solution but I cant find anything and I dont really want to format my phone because it would solve this problem only for some time.
The problem Im experiencing is regarding to my storage / sd card.. when I install any app it will make folder on my phone storage and not on SD Card even tho I selected to install apps on my SD Card. Another problem is that when I try to move that file that is placed in my phone storage to my SD Card then it wont clear any space from phone storage but the file is gone - and then when I run the app it says that I need to download additional datas and when I press download data it just say that my storage is full and I got 45gb free SD card and almost full phone memory even when I moved 1,5GB file to sd card .. I really dont know what to do..
Im also adding screenshot of my used space where you can clearly see that my apps on phone memory got 4GB and other files got around few hundred mbs but my free space is ONLY 500 MB and graph showing I should have around 6GB of free space..
Thanks for any help
EDIT: Im not rooted and running latest stock ROM
What app are you trying to delete the files in? Doesn't it have trash or something?
It doesnt matter what application Im trying to move (Im not uninstalling them or deleting) its happening to every app.
Anyone please?
i got this concern too. i want to install large games with obb files, but even if i transfer manually the obb files to ext sd/android/obb folder the game always says "download additional files" . in short the game can't find or locate the obb file due to some limitation on ext card permissions to read and write. im not sure on other devices. but i do believe thats how default android system is. :crying:
Correct me if im wrong but i guess the only solution here is to root our zf2 and install folder mount . forgive me for my first post. newbie here
Asus Zenfone 2 ZE551ML
2GB Ram 16GB Rom
Asus 2.20.40.160
Not Rooted
If you are root, try to install this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
Rageweawer said:
Hello,
Im experiencing really weird problem that never happened to me and now Im trying to find a solution but I cant find anything and I dont really want to format my phone because it would solve this problem only for some time.
The problem Im experiencing is regarding to my storage / sd card.. when I install any app it will make folder on my phone storage and not on SD Card even tho I selected to install apps on my SD Card. Another problem is that when I try to move that file that is placed in my phone storage to my SD Card then it wont clear any space from phone storage but the file is gone - and then when I run the app it says that I need to download additional datas and when I press download data it just say that my storage is full and I got 45gb free SD card and almost full phone memory even when I moved 1,5GB file to sd card .. I really dont know what to do..
Im also adding screenshot of my used space where you can clearly see that my apps on phone memory got 4GB and other files got around few hundred mbs but my free space is ONLY 500 MB and graph showing I should have around 6GB of free space..
Thanks for any help
EDIT: Im not rooted and running latest stock ROM
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well.. first of all u must know this fact that there are only few apps are present which can install on sd cards.. 90% of apps are developed to install on internal storage, if u will move them to sd card, they will not run.. and copying appdata files directly frm file explorer never solves this problem.. it will eat ur double space only.. there is specific way of doing this.. but only for those which supports installlation on sd card.
now ur problem of space, just clean ur junkfiles.. use xplore file explorer, enable 'show hidden files' and check one by one that which folder and file is eating ur storage.
if it doesnt work.. only last option is hard reset from stock recovery.
What is the main difference between internal storage and sd card? I dont get it why it shouldnt also work from the sd card.. and I was told by others that if I root my phone and download specific app / change settings I will be able to install to my sd card too. I was also normally installing my stuff on sd card when I had previous phone with 4.2 Android. With all these things I really shouldnt buy 128gb card that cost me 40€ because there is 95% of free space and I cant move anything (applications) to it.
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What is the main difference between internal storage and sd card? I dont get it why it shouldnt also work from the sd card.. and I was told by others that if I root my phone and download specific app / change settings I will be able to install to my sd card too. I was also normally installing my stuff on sd card when I had previous phone with 4.2 Android. With all these things I really shouldnt buy 128gb card that cost me 40€ because there is 95% of free space and I cant move anything (applications) to it.
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yeah.. during 4.4 time.. apps were sd card freindly, but nowdays its rare.. bcoz every app developer is in race of superiority.. internal sd gives better r/w speed, and its not removable so that app can run 24/7 on your device.. dats y they make apps to install on sd.
dont get dissappointed.. your problem is solved in andoid 6.0 marshmellow, it gives u option of using external sd card as phone's internal storage. as soon as u insert the sd card.. it will ask you that how to use it.. as a portable storage or as a internal storage..
So plz go get buy 128 gb ssd.
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Rageweawer said:
What is the main difference between internal storage and sd card? I dont get it why it shouldnt also work from the sd card.. and I was told by others that if I root my phone and download specific app / change settings I will be able to install to my sd card too. I was also normally installing my stuff on sd card when I had previous phone with 4.2 Android. With all these things I really shouldnt buy 128gb card that cost me 40€ because there is 95% of free space and I cant move anything (applications) to it.
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your phone may be full of junks.. plz make backup of your important data.. hard reset it.. hard reset is required evry 3-4 months. just do it.. it wil solve ur problem.. other wise if u are rooted then get the root explorer and delete the un necessary files from root.
Oh thats great that Android 6 will make my sd card work again. But now there is that issue that Asus is working so slowly on Android 6 :<
is there a "trash" folder? every time i delete things, they disappear, but the space doesnt free up. i also have the same problem as the original poster: my apps and all files only take up about 6.5 Gb, but my free space is only 800Mb out of 11.5Gb...i downloaded "diskusage" and it shows 4.9Gb of "system files" but i cant find them using my file manager or storage screen (this is in addition to the 4.6 Gb of "system reserved" space)
I tried to show hidden files and found a ".trash" folder, but there isnt anything in it
use ES file explorer , it has a feature to find all junk. Also ZF2 is not deleting files from gallery , it stores them in .trash. Check that too.
Hello..
I have htc desire 816 with 8gb of internal storage ....when i bought it,it had about 4gb free of that storage.....which is quite normal.
After buying it, I updated to lollipop 5.1 then i got it rooted......
Lately i've noticed the insufficient internal sotrage,so I've uninsalled ALL the apps and games from internal and external memory,however,that only freed up about 2 gb of the intrrnal storage ....so what is taking all that space despite there is No apps ....I know that the system files are taking some space....but those files only took 4gb when i bought the phone
Now i don't have any apps ,However, there is only free 1.8gb
I tried using clean master,but it only cleaned about 300mb of junks and cache
This is strictly a personal opinion but you should lose Clean Master and anything else made by Cheetah Mobile.
As for your storage issues... You state you've rooted. Have you done a backup? If so, are you sure your recovery is saving backups to the external storage?
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Ibrahim elhossiny said:
Hello..
I have htc desire 816 with 8gb of internal storage ....when i bought it,it had about 4gb free of that storage.....which is quite normal.
After buying it, I updated to lollipop 5.1 then i got it rooted......
Lately i've noticed the insufficient internal sotrage,so I've uninsalled ALL the apps and games from internal and external memory,however,that only freed up about 2 gb of the intrrnal storage ....so what is taking all that space despite there is No apps ....I know that the system files are taking some space....but those files only took 4gb when i bought the phone
Now i don't have any apps ,However, there is only free 1.8gb
I tried using clean master,but it only cleaned about 300mb of junks and cache
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Had the same issue. The firmware is in it's own partition with room for updates but some of those files fill up your internal storage as well, they did for me when I updated so the solutions are either use a root file explorer or Titanium Backup app to move some user apps to system apps , use the forum here in XDA for altering your SElinux permissions and enable write permissions to your system partition(WP.MOD_KO) so that you can use Link2SD app to move your user apps to your external SD card or pay to obtain full S off using the Sunshine app and have those permissions plus more enabled at the system level so that you can also use Link2SD app to move user apps to the external SD card.
The last 2 methods are the most used and also require you to reformat your external SD card into 2 partitions using EaseUS PARTITION MANAGER on a P.C. Instructions for doing this are easy and available on Youtube and Google if you want to read them instead. These are really the only ways to help your storage issue other than just not using very many apps. I chose the full S off method and Link2SD but the other works it just alters your SElinux permissions and has to be removed to do stock updates whereas S off doesn't affect stock updates. Only system file changes do like the mod I described.
I also echo the previous posters thoughts on Cleanmaster and most all "task killing" apps. Android has built in RAM management that does a good job on its own of managing memory and there is the on screen square button on the right that shows you open apps and tabs and allows you to quickly close them all out. You'd be better off regulating Wavelocks using Amplify app and Greenify to freeze apps from staying on . Root required and there are paid version but the basics are free in both apps.
I had a brain f**t and misread that you've uninstalled "all" of your apps so the previous poster might be onto something if you've done any TWRP nandroid backups to internal instead of micro storage. They can take up to 2 to 4 gbs just on their own even with compression enabled. If you haven't and even if you have my previous info and advice is still accurate for improved storage space.
On my phone, the .thumbnails folder in DCIM takes 1 GB...
TobiBot said:
On my phone, the .thumbnails folder in DCIM takes 1 GB...
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Yeah mine says 550 mb total in thumb data but it is not pictures from my camera like the other few kbs are. Can't open it so I wonder if it's some sort of cache for something else. Don't know all the ins and outs of the Android file structure but I do know that when I started flashing custom roms,CM in particular, my internal storage went up due to the lack of bloatware coming from my stock Rom. Good to know this though. Not going to delete it though for now till I find out what it is.
Some Facts About Thumbnails
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Yeah mine says 550 mb total in thumb data but it is not pictures from my camera like the other few kbs are. Can't open it so I wonder if it's some sort of cache for something else. Don't know all the ins and outs of the Android file structure but I do know that when I started flashing custom roms,CM in particular, my internal storage went up due to the lack of bloatware coming from my stock Rom. Good to know this though. Not going to delete it though for now till I find out what it is.
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Some Apps, like WhatsApp save pics in .thumbnails to work smooth, i think.
You can delete them, but they will create themselves at the next boot again, i also tried to write an init.d script which deletes them at boot, but it doesnt work.
Also if you create a file ".thumbnails" which isnt writable, the system doesnt give you the space
Ive read something about creating this file before first boot after flashing so it works, but i havent tried it...
Damn thumbnails
Sorry if my english is horrible ^^
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Some Apps, like WhatsApp save pics in .thumbnails to work smooth, i think.
You can delete them, but they will create themselves at the next boot again, i also tried to write an init.d script which deletes them at boot, but it doesnt work.
Also if you create a file ".thumbnails" which isnt writable, the system doesnt give you the space
Ive read something about creating this file before first boot after flashing so it works, but i havent tried it...
Damn thumbnails
Sorry if my english is horrible ^^
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Your English is perfectly fine. Better even than some to whom English is their "first" language. Thanks for that breakdown and I bet that's what it is. I forgot about the apps storing their stock images in your phone. I used to love using the app called Pocket until I found that it stores all the saved links and images directly on your phone. I saved almost a full gb by deleting it finally. Great app other than that and if I had a device with more storage I'd still have it on my phone instead of just my computer. This is all why it pays to be curious about your own phone storage and learn how to navigate a good root file explorer.