I just bought one of these as a birthday gift for my, once I opened and tested tablet, I immediately noticed purple fringing everywhere specially on white letters. Actually it is weird because:
1. On normal view, that is the Hardware button on the bottom, the purple fringe is noticable at the top of every letter, and "GREEN" fringing at the bottom of every letter.
2. When i rotate the tablet 180 degrees, (screen autorotation is on) that is the Home button now is at the top, I nptice the purple fringing is at the bottom, and the green fringing is at the top.
Anyone also noticed this on their Tab S 10.5? I am now regretting buying this.
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I forgot to mention, with normal web browsing, there is no problem. The problem can only be seen when looking at the icons and their description, and also when you go to settings, it can be seen on the letters there.
I have just been to my local walmart and tested their machines there. Their unit has the same purple fringe on top of icons, and green fringe at the bottom of icons. My guess is my eyes are faulty, or my eyes are well trained to look at Samsung screens and look for faults. Super Amoleds are really not yet perfect.
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I just bought one of these as a birthday gift for my, once I opened and tested tablet, I immediately noticed purple fringing everywhere specially on white letters. Actually it is weird because:
1. On normal view, that is the Hardware button on the bottom, the purple fringe is noticable at the top of every letter, and "GREEN" fringing at the bottom of every letter.
2. When i rotate the tablet 180 degrees, (screen autorotation is on) that is the Home button now is at the top, I nptice the purple fringing is at the bottom, and the green fringing is at the top.
Anyone also noticed this on their Tab S 10.5? I am now regretting buying this.
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I have had nothing short of spectacular graphics/images on my 10.5" Tab S and can't see even a hint of fringing. I wonder if anybody else has had this problem. Would it be possible to exchange your tablet, because that doesn't sound normal to me? I've seen 3 or 4 10.5" Tab S' s and none of them displayed the fringing your experiencing. Good luck!
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I just bought one of these as a birthday gift for my, once I opened and tested tablet, I immediately noticed purple fringing everywhere specially on white letters. Actually it is weird because:
1. On normal view, that is the Hardware button on the bottom, the purple fringe is noticable at the top of every letter, and "GREEN" fringing at the bottom of every letter.
2. When i rotate the tablet 180 degrees, (screen autorotation is on) that is the Home button now is at the top, I nptice the purple fringing is at the bottom, and the green fringing is at the top.
Anyone also noticed this on their Tab S 10.5? I am now regretting buying this.
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Your tablet is defective. Return it.
I have just been to my local walmart and tried their machines there, they have the same fault (or should I say "characteristic) as my Tab S...
I have updated the op...
I am still waiting for other people for their feedback before I return mine to amazon. Problem is, this is a birthday gift, and it wouldn't came on time if I return it and have it replaced. My walmart only has the black one.
No need to regret a purchase just because you happen to aquire a defective unit. If the store units are exhibiting the same characteristics then they have a bad batch. My screens good apart from a very slight yellow cast when viewed head on, but it doesn't really bother me, besides all stock is sold out where I live and I couldn't get a quick replacement anyway (I'm off on holiday next week and need a tab!)
xdm9mm said:
I just bought one of these as a birthday gift for my, once I opened and tested tablet, I immediately noticed purple fringing everywhere specially on white letters. Actually it is weird because:
1. On normal view, that is the Hardware button on the bottom, the purple fringe is noticable at the top of every letter, and "GREEN" fringing at the bottom of every letter.
2. When i rotate the tablet 180 degrees, (screen autorotation is on) that is the Home button now is at the top, I nptice the purple fringing is at the bottom, and the green fringing is at the top.
Anyone also noticed this on their Tab S 10.5? I am now regretting buying this.
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I forgot to mention, with normal web browsing, there is no problem. The problem can only be seen when looking at the icons and their description, and also when you go to settings, it can be seen on the letters there.
I have just been to my local walmart and tested their machines there. Their unit has the same purple fringe on top of icons, and green fringe at the bottom of icons. My guess is my eyes are faulty, or my eyes are well trained to look at Samsung screens and look for faults. Super Amoleds are really not yet perfect.
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The black one? Tab S does not come in black.
Colors on a properly functioning Tab S should be perfect. Whites white (with no yellow tinge) and blacks black (with no mura effect). It has been well documented that Samsung let some mad cows out of the barn on this one. If your screen is demonstrating any of these defects return it (the same store likely has more defective units from same run).
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The black one? Tab S does not come in black.
Colors on a properly functioning Tab S should be perfect. Whites white (with no yellow tinge) and blacks black (with no mura effect). It has been well documented that Samsung let some mad cows out of the barn on this one. If your screen is demonstrating any of these defects return it (the same store likely has more defective units from same run).
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I guess you already know what i mean when i said black... I meant titanium bronze.
Anyway i have already packed the tablet and will be returning it.
I don't know the extent of the fringing problem on your tablet but I can add this to the conversation. There is a slight tint to the screen depending on which way you tilt your device. Its an AMOLED display so its inherent.
xdm9mm said:
I just bought one of these as a birthday gift for my, once I opened and tested tablet, I immediately noticed purple fringing everywhere specially on white letters. Actually it is weird because:
1. On normal view, that is the Hardware button on the bottom, the purple fringe is noticable at the top of every letter, and "GREEN" fringing at the bottom of every letter.
2. When i rotate the tablet 180 degrees, (screen autorotation is on) that is the Home button now is at the top, I nptice the purple fringing is at the bottom, and the green fringing is at the top.
Anyone also noticed this on their Tab S 10.5? I am now regretting buying this.
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I forgot to mention, with normal web browsing, there is no problem. The problem can only be seen when looking at the icons and their description, and also when you go to settings, it can be seen on the letters there.
I have just been to my local walmart and tested their machines there. Their unit has the same purple fringe on top of icons, and green fringe at the bottom of icons. My guess is my eyes are faulty, or my eyes are well trained to look at Samsung screens and look for faults. Super Amoleds are really not yet perfect.
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enaybee said:
I don't know the extent of the fringing problem on your tablet but I can add this to the conversation. There is a slight tint to the screen depending on which way you tilt your device. Its an AMOLED display so its inherent.
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It should be white viewed directly and slightly pink at am angle.
xdm9mm said:
I just bought one of these as a birthday gift for my, once I opened and tested tablet, I immediately noticed purple fringing everywhere specially on white letters. Actually it is weird because:
1. On normal view, that is the Hardware button on the bottom, the purple fringe is noticable at the top of every letter, and "GREEN" fringing at the bottom of every letter.
2. When i rotate the tablet 180 degrees, (screen autorotation is on) that is the Home button now is at the top, I nptice the purple fringing is at the bottom, and the green fringing is at the top.
Anyone also noticed this on their Tab S 10.5? I am now regretting buying this.
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I forgot to mention, with normal web browsing, there is no problem. The problem can only be seen when looking at the icons and their description, and also when you go to settings, it can be seen on the letters there.
I have just been to my local walmart and tested their machines there. Their unit has the same purple fringe on top of icons, and green fringe at the bottom of icons. My guess is my eyes are faulty, or my eyes are well trained to look at Samsung screens and look for faults. Super Amoleds are really not yet perfect.
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You seem to be extremely sensitive. Do you even notice it from a distance, or do you have to get really close to the screen to notice it ?
It could be related to the screen's subpixels layout, here it what it looks like when zoomed it: http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-105/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-105.jpg
You may want to have a look at it with a magnifiying glass, I wouldn't be surprise that this layout is causing your issue.
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mitchellvii said:
The black one? Tab S does not come in black.
Colors on a properly functioning Tab S should be perfect. Whites white (with no yellow tinge) and blacks black (with no mura effect). It has been well documented that Samsung let some mad cows out of the barn on this one. If your screen is demonstrating any of these defects return it (the same store likely has more defective units from same run).
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I'm not sure about tab S 10.5, but 8.4 is affected by Mura effect. Not on black though, but only on extremely dark colors.
"It should be white viewed directly and slightly pink at am angle."
Amusing, on 8.4 the tint is green when viewed at an angle, not pink. Same goes for my Galaxy S2. It looks like some greenish transparent liquid was painted on the pannel. I always wondered what it could be, as it seems to be specific to Amoled.
Bump: Just purchased a Samsung Tab S2 and have a similar purple fringing issue and slight text aliasing. Mostly occurs with black text on white background.
I took a few macro photos that display the issue. As I just registered to discuss this issue I am not allowed to embed photos from imgur, to view remove the space between imgur and .com.
White Text on Black Background from Samsung Tab S2 9.7
i.imgur .com/jDd5H2C.jpg
Black Text on White Background from Samsung Tab S2 9.7
i.imgur .com/L1tsK5V.jpg
LG G4 LCD - for comparison
i.imgur .com/3k6ne8V.jpg
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Just got my VZW galaxy nexus, and im loving it so far, but have noticed something odd: toward the top of the screen (about 1/4 of the way down from the top) there seems to be a very slight green tint, noticeable only when looking at a dark background (like the settings menu).
It's kind of hard to explain, does anyone else have something similar on their phones? Is this normal for amoled screens or should I ask for a replacement phone?
i believe it has to do with it being a pentile screen... well, 'HD' pentile, but still..
i'd say if you try an exchange, make sure you the test the other in store first.
can anyone with a galaxy nexus please post a photo of their phone on the settings menu? (scroll all the way down)
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can anyone with a galaxy nexus please post a photo of their phone on the settings menu? (scroll all the way down)
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Pretty sure the setting menu is a background gradient with an intended color shift.
But yeah, mine has a blueish/greenish hue if I tilt the phone away or towards me in portrait mode. Straight-on, I don't notice anything.
yeah i am talking about viewing straight on
mine has this greenish tint slightly at the top right screen...
that settings menu then scroll all the way down is normal.. the color is not as dark as the top. I'm seeing greenish tint when on white background
I have a very light greenish tint on the right side of the phone on white backgrounds with text when at low/automatic brightness. The green goes away when I bump brightness to 40%+.
Did you try that?
Oddly, when I ran pixel checker, the pure white background has no green tint to it at all.
Yeah, at low brightness I see a tint/haze but at full brightness, everything looks beautiful.
Welcome to the world of pentile.
I see the same green tint on my screen. I thought it was normal, but I compared it to another unit today and saw that my display was both dimmer at the same brightness level and had a greenish cast and different color temperature than the unit I was comparing it to. I'm not sure if this is within the normal variance for these displays, but my phone certainly looks worse to me than the one I compared it to.
Both units also showed a green/blue tint when viewed off axis but with greater discoloration on mine. The second unit showed almost no discernible tint when viewing a white screen straight on unlike mine.
melterx12 said:
Just got my VZW galaxy nexus, and im loving it so far, but have noticed something odd: toward the top of the screen (about 1/4 of the way down from the top) there seems to be a very slight green tint, noticeable only when looking at a dark background (like the settings menu).
It's kind of hard to explain, does anyone else have something similar on their phones? Is this normal for amoled screens or should I ask for a replacement phone?
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i have the same problem. Sometimes (usually after a power down and restart) my entire screen is very dark and has a, very obvious, green tint to it. I compared my phone to my girlfriends at the same display setting and the tint is very obvious (especially when i'm viewing menu, text messages, browser). When i adjust the brightness it seems to make it less obvious, but still there. However after certain power down and restart this "green tint" seems to 'go away' only to either gradually re-appear or just happen when my phone self adjusts to "automatic brightness" setting.
p.s. my phone also, had another minor issue of random re-start when listening to music (via google music) and adjusting the sound effects option. After that restart my phones display was significantly tinted and dark. Weird, Either way getting a replacement unit tomorrow.
Mine has a very slight green tint on the left hand side of the screen when at the lowest brightness and viewing a white background.
I normally have the brightness bumped up a bit, but it still bugs me when I have it low
EDIT: Checked pixel checker, has the green tint. I can definitely see it on the keyboard as I'm typing this though
I took my unit in to Verizon today for an exchange. New one doesn't have as significant of color shifting or banding issues.
crazeco said:
I took my unit in to Verizon today for an exchange. New one doesn't have as significant of color shifting or banding issues.
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yeah i got mine replaced the next day, all good now. No green tint, reduced banding, and much better viewing angles (the first one heavily tinted green or pink colors when viewing it from the right or left side, respectively)
Alright, got a replacement today.
No green tint that I can see, almost no banding and the colors don't change like, at all when I tilt the phone.
Now my nexus truly is perfect
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DoctorSasquatch said:
Alright, got a replacement today.
No green tint that I can see, almost no banding and the colors don't change like, at all when I tilt the phone.
Now my nexus truly is perfect
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Sorry, I find this very hard to believe. *ALL* pentile AMOLEDs change colours like crazy when you look at them at a sharp angle. It's a characteristic trait of this kind of display.
Pics from various angles or it didn't happen. ;-)
Valynor said:
Sorry, I find this very hard to believe. *ALL* pentile AMOLEDs change colours like crazy when you look at them at a sharp angle. It's a characteristic trait of this kind of display.
Pics from various angles or it didn't happen. ;-)
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Yeah, I was exaggerating, but compared to how bad it was with the other one its crazy. Very less noticeable than my first one
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Hello everyone, today I've noticed that on landscape mode my GN has a lighter and brighter vertical line of pixels on the left side, if I turn the phone on the left; if I turn the phone on the right it doesn't happen and everything is fine on both sides. It is really annoying me and I can't say if it is the first time it happens or this kind of issue has been always there. It can be noticed only with white or light backgrounds and in EVERY photo, if brightness is switched to max it is hard to see but with automatic or half brightness is pretty clear.
I tried to screenshot it but I'm afraid this is something hardware since it doesn't show on screenshot.
Anyone else with the same problem?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/542/img5505n.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/img5503n.jpg/
Is it green? I have a similar issue. I think it's a case of screen burn.
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bar_rodoy said:
Is it green? I have a similar issue. I think it's a case of screen burn.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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See the attached pics...I didn't manage to attach them to my first post.
I think its related to the screen burn issue. I have somthibg similair too, but it noticeable only on white background. I see green color there..
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That's covered under warranty. Get it replaced.
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Smokeey said:
That's covered under warranty. Get it replaced.
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Do you know how this thing is technically called?
La Rascassa said:
Do you know how this thing is technically called?
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I think I have the same issue. Don't know if I should go and get a replacement. It also only shows on white background while browsing.
EDIT: The captured screenshot doesn't show this, so no point in uploading it.
bozint said:
I think I have the same issue. Don't know if I should go and get a replacement. It also only shows on white background while browsing.
EDIT: The captured screenshot doesn't show this, so no point in uploading it.
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Took it to assistance. It'll be back in 10 working days and since I don't have something not even similar to replace it I'm stuck with an old Sony Ericsson W205...what a nightmare!
La Rascassa said:
Took it to assistance. It'll be back in 10 working days and since I don't have something not even similar to replace it I'm stuck with an old Sony Ericsson W205...what a nightmare!
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At least you can replace it. I am from Israel and I bought the Gnex in the US directly from Google. I noticed this problem a day before I went on the flight so I didnt have much time to replace it. But it doesnt much bother me. I know that those Super AMOLED screen have too much problems... Just live with it right now.
i have the same issue right now.
For replacing the GNex i had to go in a samsung point or they come to my home for took it?
La Rascassa said:
Hello everyone, today I've noticed that on landscape mode my GN has a lighter and brighter vertical line of pixels on the left side, if I turn the phone on the left; if I turn the phone on the right it doesn't happen and everything is fine on both sides. It is really annoying me and I can't say if it is the first time it happens or this kind of issue has been always there. It can be noticed only with white or light backgrounds and in EVERY photo, if brightness is switched to max it is hard to see but with automatic or half brightness is pretty clear.
I tried to screenshot it but I'm afraid this is something hardware since it doesn't show on screenshot.
Anyone else with the same problem?
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I have the exact same issue on my Galaxy Nexus. The same row of pixels (along the top-edge). It's not visible in portrait mode because the notification bar is black and the pixels are switched off.
Here's the kicker: since this afternoon, the row of pixels are switched on even when the background is black. They appear as a faint line and become brighter when there's a background image. I put the phone under a magnifying glass and there appear to be three such rows, not one. It could be the pentile matrix playing with my eyes since the pixels are too small to see even with a (low power) magnifying glass, but there's definitely more than one row.
Anyone else?
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I have the exact same issue on my Galaxy Nexus. The same row of pixels (along the top-edge). It's not visible in portrait mode because the notification bar is black and the pixels are switched off.
Here's the kicker: since this afternoon, the row of pixels are switched on even when the background is black. They appear as a faint line and become brighter when there's a background image. I put the phone under a magnifying glass and there appear to be three such rows, not one. It could be the pentile matrix playing with my eyes since the pixels are too small to see even with a (low power) magnifying glass, but there's definitely more than one row.
Anyone else?
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Can you post or link a picture? I mean under a magnifying glass, just to see how it looks like...ehm not sure if it is possible though
I am having the same problem on mine too. There are these streaks that runs across in landscape or portrait. it's more noticable in a grayish white background. It's very easy to see with a screen test app that shows one color on the whole screen. Lately, I also notice the very top and bottom line of pixels like would lit up brighter. For example, when i touch the context buttons at the bottom, bottom pixels of the buttom would lit up bright white.
Edit: clariification, it's the same lines of streaks if held in portrait, it would go across. when in landscape, the same streaks goes to to bottom.
I also have a lighter vertical line of pixels on the side of the screen when in landscape. The interesting thing, though, is that it is on the left, regardless of whether my phone is in landscape with the power button on the top or the button. either way it's on the left of the picture. So I don't think it's a hardware issue. More likely a calibration issue?
I also have horizontal banding of slightly different shades in portrait on grey/white backgrounds (eg: facebook app). These become harder to see the more brightness I turn up.
Yep, have it too...
Now I'm deciding whether to go to the Service Center....
Other than that small line, the phone is perfect so i guess i won't bother..
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I also have a lighter vertical line of pixels on the side of the screen when in landscape. The interesting thing, though, is that it is on the left, regardless of whether my phone is in landscape with the power button on the top or the button. either way it's on the left of the picture. So I don't think it's a hardware issue. More likely a calibration issue?
I also have horizontal banding of slightly different shades in portrait on grey/white backgrounds (eg: facebook app). These become harder to see the more brightness I turn up.
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I got the entire screen replaced by Samsung Italy. 100% hardware issue
i have the same issue... but i think it is not "burn in", it is just a pixel line brighter than the rest, in my case it shows all the colors as it should, just brighter.
Strange...
A couple of weeks ago I noticed the topmost line of pixels of my Gnex is miscoloured or brighter than normal, and yet sometimes displays correctly, usually when black.
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I noticed it's on the bottom too. Maybe some backlight problem or something... But sometimes it changes colour due to shades changing, it's like in half shades it's shining more and in other half it's darker. Like some software compensating. There's other colours, but blue looks differently.
The screen on my 8.4in Tab S is bugging me, is it just me?
With all "super enhanced" colour settings set to plain and boring colour, I keep noticing a slight green tint in the central area of screen when viewed square-on, it's very subtle and seems more obvious with text on the screen, e.g. the Tapatalk forum listings. Also when viewed from an angle the display takes on a slight blue tint, despite reviews saying how good the angles are, it seems worse than the LG G Pad.
Is this just a feature of AMOLED displays or could it be a faulty unit (how?)?
I don't see it. Sorry.
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The screen on my 8.4in Tab S is bugging me, is it just me?
With all "super enhanced" colour settings set to plain and boring colour, I keep noticing a slight green tint in the central area of screen when viewed square-on, it's very subtle and seems more obvious with text on the screen, e.g. the Tapatalk forum listings. Also when viewed from an angle the display takes on a slight blue tint, despite reviews saying how good the angles are, it seems worse than the LG G Pad.
Is this just a feature of AMOLED displays or could it be a faulty unit (how?)?
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There shouldn't be any differences viewed at any angle with this screen. Try this... in bright sunlight, with the screen off, look at the screen on an angle. It should look a uniform color - actually almost exactly matching the titanium bronze bezel... just to make sure there is no physical defect.
Something to note - if the screen is OK, it could be your eyes (not joking). The eyes can play many tricks - for example, seeing a lightly shaded box with text on a piece of paper that is only black and white - the box can appear to be shaded slightly red. That's one example, but there are many. And with the resolution and technology of this screen, there are no imperfections to draw your attention, like staircasing, blur, backlight irregularities, that you are used to seeing. It is a bit confusing to our physiology, and our brain does this thing called "patternization" that can contribute to us truly seeing something other than it is. This seems to be more subtle, yet more frustrating on a display that is so close to perfect.
I'm not saying that there is something with your eyes specifically. It could certainly be a defective screen. One way to find out would be to take a look at someone else's - also, if you have another decent camera, you can take a picture of the screen and look at the picture - that will usually confirm (or not) whether what you are seeing is there. Like I said, it's not you or your eyes I'm dissing. These are things I've picked up on over the years. In fact, it could ONLY be my eyes. If that's the case, I'd probably rather not know.
You can also use a colorimeter and software like HFCR to get the discreet measurements from different parts of the screen. When I have done this, I've found that there was no real difference in chromacity. Of course, that has always made me walk away thinking that the colorimeter must not be accurate. So human.
I would definitely be interested in your feedback about what you find because I've obsessed over high resolution displays trying to figure out what is real and what I'm imagining... it's an active area of interest for me.
Mike
Armpowered said:
The screen on my 8.4in Tab S is bugging me, is it just me?
With all "super enhanced" colour settings set to plain and boring colour, I keep noticing a slight green tint in the central area of screen when viewed square-on, it's very subtle and seems more obvious with text on the screen, e.g. the Tapatalk forum listings. Also when viewed from an angle the display takes on a slight blue tint, despite reviews saying how good the angles are, it seems worse than the LG G Pad.
Is this just a feature of AMOLED displays or could it be a faulty unit (how?)?
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Yes I have also noticed this. I've seen these green or pink tints on all the amoled devices I've owned. You need pretty good eyesight to be able to notice it. You shouldn't be bothered by it, they're all like that, if you can see it. But you'll get used to it.
I probably will not get used to it...
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I probably will not get used to it...
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Thanks Freshman206 and SrAdama, glad (?) to hear that it's not just me, I've had the tablet just over a week and still notice it. Any slight tilt and the colours appear/shift, green, pink and when angled beyond what I'd consider normal, blue.
Have photographed it and will have another go at getting it clearer but by winding up saturation the effect becomes visible in the photos (on pc).
I'm now trying to decide what to do about it, I have an LG G Pad which doesn't annoy in this way, though it has just gone away for a warranty screen repair for bright spots (not stuck pixels)!
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Thanks Freshman206 and SrAdama, glad (?) to hear that it's not just me, I've had the tablet just over a week and still notice it. Any slight tilt and the colours appear/shift, green, pink and when angled beyond what I'd consider normal, blue.
Have photographed it and will have another go at getting it clearer but by winding up saturation the effect becomes visible in the photos (on pc).
I'm now trying to decide what to do about it, I have an LG G Pad which doesn't annoy in this way, though it has just gone away for a warranty screen repair for bright spots (not stuck pixels)!
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It is probably the antiglare coating you are seeing.. If you have the coating on your glasses and check them out, it will do the same thing as your tablet... I also noticed it appears to have a anti fingerprint coating on as well, very nice indeed :>
In shops I also have compared 3 different Tab S.
All had an immediately visible green tint, white looks not white but greenish and a bit "washed out".
I find it a bit surprising that with other devices, when they have a tint (like the yellow tint of the Xperia Tablet Z), people complain much, while here, with this really apparent tint, people tend to say: It's normal, get used to it...
I would never buy a Tab S, just because of this tint and because of the, compared to other devices, low maximal brightness.
These devices are overrated.
I ran a poll in this forum as to whether people were satisfied with white reproduction on their tablets or not. Out of 15 responses 12 were satisfied.
We have heard reports of manufacturing defects such as yellows screens, muddy splotches in the middle of screens, loose creeky backs, warped backs and excessive lag/stutter.
These are not "normal" for this tablet but represent what may be a bad run of tablets that made it out of the barn. If you are experiencing the issues suffered by the OP, I suggest you seek a replacement unit. If you have observed similar performance from other tabs in the same store that would make sense as they are likely from the same faulty production run.
When operating normally, white should be white on the Tab S. For myself and the large majority in the poll, this is the case. I have also not read any reviews by professionals mentioning this discoloration and believe me, if CNET or THEVERGE had something to rag on the Tab S about they would have.
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hasenbein1966 said:
These devices are overrated.
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The average rating by actual owners of the Tab S 10.5 bronze at BestBuy is 4.8 out of 5 stars with 53 reviews.
The average rating by actual owners of the Tab S 10.5 white at BestBuy is 4.9 out of 5 stars with 36 reviews.
You will see very little if any mention of an issue with yellow or green discoloration. I'm sure you are seeing what you are seeing but the problem does not appear widespread.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchp...&id=pcat17071&iht=y&cp=1&nrp=15&st=Tab+s+10.5
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I just took a picture of a webpage with a white background on my 10.5 and sent it to my laptop which has software that measures colors.
The website background from my Tab S 10.5 measured at 255:255:255. That is pure white. This was a photo and not merely a screen shot.
Saw the 10.5 inch and 8.4 inch models together on display in a shop. The 8.4 inch version also had slightly yellow tinted whites when looked at directly, not as bad as I was expecting though. The 10.5 inch model had no yellow tinted whites at all, when looked at directly or tilted.
Mine has pinkish tint at the top visible when everything is white especialy when reading wikipedia
Vertron said:
Saw the 10.5 inch and 8.4 inch models together on display in a shop. The 8.4 inch version also had slightly yellow tinted whites when looked at directly, not as bad as I was expecting though. The 10.5 inch model had no yellow tinted whites at all, when looked at directly or tilted.
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so when i switch screen mode to amoled basic, my screen have yellow tint (like warm color) and a little washed out color, is it normal or just my unit?
because when i switch screen mode to amoled cinema, everything looks saturated which is i think okay...
Armpowered said:
The screen on my 8.4in Tab S is bugging me, is it just me?
With all "super enhanced" colour settings set to plain and boring colour, I keep noticing a slight green tint in the central area of screen when viewed square-on, it's very subtle and seems more obvious with text on the screen, e.g. the Tapatalk forum listings. Also when viewed from an angle the display takes on a slight blue tint, despite reviews saying how good the angles are, it seems worse than the LG G Pad.
Is this just a feature of AMOLED displays or could it be a faulty unit (how?)?
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At what angle are you looking at it.???
serious96 said:
so when i switch screen mode to amoled basic, my screen have yellow tint (like warm color) and a little washed out color, is it normal or just my unit?
because when i switch screen mode to amoled cinema, everything looks saturated which is i think okay...
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Yes the Basic profile is meant to be that way its not the screen problem being discussed here, if you wanted an accurate image then Basic is the closest of all the profiles. If Basic looks washed out to you then your used to looking at an oversaturate screen, if you were used to looking at calibrated screens then all three profiles would look over saturated.
I had the 8.4 and just returned it. I also had the greenish-blue tint when the screen was even just slightly tilted. More noticeable indoors with brightness set to below 40%. If I had the tablet flat on the table and walked across the room, I could see it too - screen only looked good if looking at it directly in front of you. As others have said, I think it's probably due to some coating on the screen, which explains why it would be more noticeable with the screen brightness set lower.
I've checked out a few display models at stores, they all basically look the same, though some were slightly worse than others. That being said, the 10.5" ones I saw don't seem to have this problem... if they do, it's definitely not as noticeable. Not sure if it's just an optical illusion or what, but the 10.5's look OK. I'm going to go buy the 10.5 one today, mainly for the size. I'll post again if there are any tints on the screen.
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I had the 8.4 and just returned it. I also had the greenish-blue tint when the screen was even just slightly tilted. More noticeable indoors with brightness set to below 40%. If I had the tablet flat on the table and walked across the room, I could see it too - screen only looked good if looking at it directly in front of you. As others have said, I think it's probably due to some coating on the screen, which explains why it would be more noticeable with the screen brightness set lower.
I've checked out a few display models at stores, they all basically look the same, though some were slightly worse than others. That being said, the 10.5" ones I saw don't seem to have this problem... if they do, it's definitely not as noticeable. Not sure if it's just an optical illusion or what, but the 10.5's look OK. I'm going to go buy the 10.5 one today, mainly for the size. I'll post again if there are any tints on the screen.
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The problem was a green tint in the center when looked at head on not at an angle, seeing shifts in color when tilted is normal for this tablet. I would have kept yours if it was fine straight on.
My 10.5 had greenish yellow tint when looked at head on exactly the same as the op.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/normal-screen-faulty-t2822471
I was gonna return for the 10.5" anyways, the screen tint wasn't part of that decision, but I certainly won't miss it, heh.
Mine it is extremelly yellow! I hate this bug... It happends to me every 10 minutes, i need to restart every time to revert this.
The reasons why I purchased a Tab S 8.4 were its awesome screen quality and high grade processor. For the later, the poor touchwiz optimization and the average gpu led to disappointing results. But well, the screen IS awesome !
Or is it ?
At first, I was truly impressed. But after some web browsing and reading e-books, something felt wrong with the colors homogeneity. On white backgrounds, the right part of the screen in portrait mode would tend towards a yellowish tone, while the left part would tend toward purple tones. Nothing obvious, but quite annoying when noticed.
After trying around with different backgrounds, it become more obvious with certain colors. The one used in settings background for example: The left side of the screen is deep blue, the right part is much lighter.. and greener.
Further investigating the issue, I figured it is most obvious when watched in the darkness and using dark colors: RBG such as R:0, G:10 , B: 20 or even R:20, G:10, B:0
Did anyone else notice similar issues ? Would you guys mind trying to create a R:0, G:10, B:20 (#000A14) background and check the result on your tab S in a low light environment ? On mine, it results in an obvious gradation from dark blue to green.
Attaching some pictures. The rendering is not the best especially in the darkness, but the issue remains clearly visible.
There is something very wrong with your screen. Return it.
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There is something very wrong with your screen. Return it.
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I second that, that is not normal
I concur with the others, get it replaced.
AMOLED screens can fail for any number of reasons (pixel death is the main one) , if yours is showing problems get it replaced now rather than live with it and have a more serious problem later.
We've seen this yellow color issue reported by a few others. Looks like Samsung let a few diseased horses out of the barn. I concur with the others. Return it.
Thanks for your feedback, guys.
I'd like to highlight the fact this issue goes completely unnoticed in most scenarios. A friend I showed it on white background didn't notice it at all, in movies/games/pictures I don't see it at all. I only felt it while reading, and even then it was not obvious, just a persistant feeling that led me to further testing.
Only the extremely dark colors seem to be affected, and even then it's only noticeable in the darkness. I will go back to the store tomorow and exchange it for a new one, but I'm wondering if the issue isn't widespread and simply went under the radar as its effect is hardly noticeable in 99.9% of the situations.
Did anyone else check at an homogenous R:0, G:10, B:20 image in the darkness with their tab ?
I personnally used Moon+ Reader's background color settings for testing purpose, pretty easy to set up.
New Tab S, same issue
I changed my Tab S 8.4 today for a brand new one. Same test, same issue: the background is still not homogeneous. The issue is visible in the darkness on dark colors such as the one used for the settings menu, which seems naturally gradated from deep to lighter blue on my screen.
Could someone else test and reproduce the issue on their tab ?
I have tried to reproduce what you're seeing on my 10.5 and honestly I can't. I'm not going to say the white is always 100% pure white but it's close enough. At the same time I'm trying to avoid looking for something that's not there for my Tab.
ukael said:
I changed my Tab S 8.4 today for a brand new one. Same test, same issue: the background is still not homogeneous. The issue is visible in the darkness on dark colors such as the one used for the settings menu, which seems naturally gradated from deep to lighter blue on my screen.
Could someone else test and reproduce the issue on their tab ?
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Maybe you can go into Settings / Accessibility / Vision / Color Adjustments and see if your calibration is off. There is a test there where you arrange tiles by color gradation and it adjusts your screen. I am having none of the issues you mentioned, but my 10.5 Tab also passed that test with no color adjustments required. Give it a try.
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Maybe you can go into Settings / Accessibility / Vision / Color Adjustments and see if your calibration is off. There is a test there where you arrange tiles by color gradation and it adjusts your screen. I am having none of the issues you mentioned, but my 10.5 Tab also passed that test with no color adjustments required. Give it a try.
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Test completed successfully. The calibration is fine, and the issue is not noticeable during the test. The issue is actually not noticeable in most usages, I only see it on homogenous very dark color backgrounds (the 10% darkest colors), and while in a dark environment myself. In most common usages, the screen looks fantastic and flawless.
Unfortunately, I often use my toys in my bed in the darkness. AND I am concerned about a possible defect that would get worse over time.
That said, tests on similar colored backgrounds on other AMOLED screens (PS Vita, Galaxy SII) lead me to think this could be a global issue with AMOLED.
Unfortunately, I often use my toys in my bed in the darkness.
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Lol, to those of us with a perverse sense of humor we would refer to that as a hanging curveball.
Whatever issues you are experiencing I would take that over LCD light bleed any day.
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Test completed successfully. The calibration is fine, and the issue is not noticeable during the test. The issue is actually not noticeable in most usages, I only see it on homogenous very dark color backgrounds (the 10% darkest colors), and while in a dark environment myself. In most common usages, the screen looks fantastic and flawless.
Unfortunately, I often use my toys in my bed in the darkness. AND I am concerned about a possible defect that would get worse over time.
That said, tests on similar colored backgrounds on other AMOLED screens (PS Vita, Galaxy SII) lead me to think this could be a global issue with AMOLED.
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Dear Friend. Like you I am very sensible in that point. I have a lot behind me and I can tell you, that homogeneity is something we can not expect from all types of modern displays, except the pro ones with a special function that takes care about this issue. Any screen has such issues, the question is just what type of and the intensity differs. The lower the light in our environment the more sensible our eyes get. The longer we stare into the screen the better we see all color details. Worst case scenario is a totally darkened room. Your eyes won´t get more sensible than in such a situation. Especially AMOLED displays will show the strangest kind of irregularities you would never see normally. I remember the Tab 7.7 -- in a dark room the screen was over and over covered with black circles. Wow ! The Vita shows strange textures instead. It is horrible.
My advice to you would be to start trying to avoid using your tablet or any display in a dark room. Turn a light on, it will be nice for your brain and eyes and you will not see the described things. It´s just a matter of habit, nothing else. You will get used to it and probably feel very well with it. Anyway there will still be the green haze.... Not to talk about the yellowish etc. stuff.
I returned the Tab S for a MiPad and it´s much better, really nice homogeneity (compared to other actual devices).
I had 4-5 iPad Mini Retina and all of them have horrible yellowish/blueish tint.
I had 4 iPad Airs, 3 were horrible in a similar way, now the 4th one is okay, I finally had luck.
I had 2 Galaxy 12.2 - the first one yellowish in a quarter, the second has just a slight, short yellow stripe on the bottom border.
I had a Kindle Fire HD + HDX - both with bad, ugly green spots at borders and corners. Also partially yellowish.
Once I held a Galaxy Tab 3 in my hands that was actually flawless. I was shocked. It never happened again. Was from a classmate.
Today I guess it was a mistake since I could not test in in a home-at-night-environment.
I checked dozens of Tablets in big stores here - guess what I found ???
Look at the iMacs .... Horrible yellowish tint. Horrible. It´s a shame.
I use my Tab S 10.5 in a dark room with some regularity. I've never experienced any of these odd artifacts you guys are discussing. My black screen is just black. Colors look right. White is white. I think its a fallacy to claim that all amoled screens face these issues. The amoled screen on the Tab S is the best most advanced amoled screen ever created. Problems from older devices shouldn't apply here.
Please remember based upon other user input, Samsung did seem to have a run of defective screens on these tabs they put out.
Here's a quick video test taken in a pretty dark room (it's daytime here). As you can see the screen is just black. There is absolutely no reason to avoid viewing your Tab S in a dark room. If you are not seeing the solid black I have demonstrated in this video I suggest exchanging your possibly defective unit.
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Did anyone else check at an homogenous R:0, G:10, B:20 image in the darkness with their tab ?
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In my experience 100% of AMOLED displays exhibit this behaviour, i.e. both Tab S 8.4 I've had! The first one (exchanged because of unhappy whites) had it so obviously that it looked like a diagonal gradient fade to one corner. The second tablet shows it as a slightly patchy screen, see attached photo which looks worse than the reality.
This is only visible in a completely dark room with the display set to its darkest (or close to), displaying a very dark image (my photo is of the spec. you mentioned - hence blue/green colour). To show this I needed to use an exposure of about 1 second, if you use less the image will appear black, likewise (probably) if you try to capture it as a video using normal ISO values in camera, the camera won't pick up the background.
Armpowered said:
In my experience 100% of AMOLED displays exhibit this behaviour, i.e. both Tab S 8.4 I've had! The first one (exchanged because of unhappy whites) had it so obviously that it looked like a diagonal gradient fade to one corner. The second tablet shows it as a slightly patchy screen, see attached photo which looks worse than the reality.
This is only visible in a completely dark room with the display set to its darkest (or close to), displaying a very dark image (my photo is of the spec. you mentioned - hence blue/green colour). To show this I needed to use an exposure of about 1 second, if you use less the image will appear black, likewise (probably) if you try to capture it as a video using normal ISO values in camera, the camera won't pick up the background.
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All I can say is that is seriously messed up. My screen looks nothing like that and just as pitch black as in my video. Considering black pixels in amoled screens are basically turned off, they should be utterly and completely black and devoid of light. Am I misunderstanding and your picture is of a blue background?
All other dark colors should be solid without strange light effects as well.
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All I can say is that is seriously messed up. My screen looks nothing like that and just as pitch black as in my video. Considering black pixels in amoled screens are basically turned off, they should be utterly and completely black and devoid of light. Am I misunderstanding and your picture is of a blue background?.
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It's daytime for me at the moment but yes from memory, if you display an actual black image then it will appear as black, you see this effect when trying to display an image that is almost black, at very low levels of light output the (my!) panel isn't even.
The attached image is R0 G10 B20 and on my PC looks black - it isn't I just used "ColorPic" to check the screen colour and it shows those values.
It's not a big issue but does appear when using in fully dark room with brightness turned down, I notice it in some apps that have very dark background colours (which you'd assume were black and see as such in daylight, but aren't).
Obviously under these circumstances an LCD would appear as a (relatively) bright grey !
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It's daytime for me at the moment but yes from memory, if you display an actual black image then it will appear as black, you see this effect when trying to display an image that is almost black, at very low levels of light output the (my!) panel isn't even.
The attached image is R0 G10 B20 and on my PC looks black - it isn't I just used "ColorPic" to check the screen colour and it shows those values.
It's not a big issue but does appear when using in fully dark room with brightness turned down, I notice it in some apps that have very dark background colours (which you'd assume were black and see as such in daylight, but aren't).
Obviously under these circumstances an LCD would appear as a (relatively) bright grey !
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OK I'm a bit confused. The image you attached looks either black or very very dark gray on my screen. No color variation at all. Oh well
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OK I'm a bit confused. The image you attached looks either black or very very dark gray on my screen. No color variation at all. Oh well
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Same on my tab in daylight, it only appears patchy when in a very dark room with brightness turned right down. Maybe amongst the variations some will be perfect?
Armpowered said:
Same on my tab in daylight, it only appears patchy when in a very dark room with brightness turned right down. Maybe amongst the variations some will be perfect?
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Still beats LCD light bleed
Hey everyone,
I got my black AT&T Note 4 earlier today. I noticed the lower half of the screen is slightly darker, and has a slight pinkish tint on a white screen.
I do notice it in some apps, like Kindle when readinga book. Top of screen is slightly brighter, and when background is white there's a very slight pink tint.
Is that normal? Or should brightness be uniform and no tint?
EDIT: I added a photo. It's not a good photo but you can see how one side is tinted differently. In the photo the brighter top looks greenish but in real life it's not green. You can also the slight pinkish tint in the bottom half, which is the left side of the photo.
I wouldn't want to comment based on the image you uploaded directly since how a camera captures a digital display is much different than what the naked eye will see. If the picture on the panel is not consistent and appears polarized in any way, I would consider that to be faulty. Get it replaced.
Galaxy Note 4 (pink tint lower screen)
Hi there,
I have also noticed a pink tint on the lower half of the screen on new Samsung Galaxy Note 4.
As i intend to do a lot of drawing on this device the tint is unacceptable.
I wonder if there is a way to calibrate the display?
I had this issue with my Galaxy S3 display. I had at&t exchange it.
Have this same issue on my Note 4. Posted some pics over in the thread on this topic for the Note 3 before I thought to check here. Basically there's a brightness and gamma gradient from top to bottom. The top half is perfect and the bottom half gradually fades to a point where you lose the first 8-9 squares on the lagom.nl black level test.
This one emphasizes the black crush, which can be visible in video content on a dark screen (and makes dark colored backgrounds fade to black towards the bottom):
And here's one on a white background. At first it seems like a white point issue (which I would tolerate since it's common on IPS as well), but it's a brightness gradient:
Between this and the fact that AT&T disabled the slider for auto brightness I'm a little frustrated with this supposed best smartphone display ever (I realize this second issue isn't Samsung's fault, but the auto brightness is unusable without that feature). I bought the phone at Best Buy which is mostly out of stock right now so an exchange isn't likely, assuming they even take this seriously as an issue.
My note 4 does not display this issue.
No issues here. Display looks very consistent.
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My note 4 does not display this issue.
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Have you tried a dark background in a dark room? For me it wasn't that obvious until I did this (was messing around in Sketchbook). If the majority of screens are better than mine I'll definitely be trying to get a replacement as this is bothering me.
I just installed Lux to resolve my backlight issue and its settings menu background fades nearly entirely to black at the bottom.
*Edit: So far it sounds like this is an anomaly. You would expect places like Anandtech to report on it if they'd seen that amount of variation. I'm going to have a good time trying to convince someone at BB that this is a real defect though.
Erica Griffin talks about this issue in her Note 4 review, around the 20 min mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OyNWrQJzMY
I got a replacement and it's perfect. No pink tint.
So, if you have the tint return it. Not all Note 4s are like that.
msk said:
Erica Griffin talks about this issue in her Note 4 review, around the 20 min mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OyNWrQJzMY
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Thanks, that was quite helpful. I think in general it's easier to trust reviews on retail-purchased devices over mainstream reviews with PR department selected units.
I went to BB today and looked at the display units. All perfect, but then that's not surprising (every company gives their display/review units a second QC pass, even Apple). I'll probably head to the only BB in the area that has units tomorrow and see if I can do an exchange. As long as they don't make me sign one of those "no more returns" agreements I've heard about I'm willing to take another shot in the display lottery.
TapperP said:
I got a replacement and it's perfect. No pink tint.
So, if you have the tint return it. Not all Note 4s are like that.
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Good to hear! I'll post my results after my exchange attempt tomorrow. Aside from the gradient I am impressed with the display. Not as bright as LCD in daylight, but I was drawing on a black BG last night and noticed that it has deeper blacks than my Pioneer plasma.
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Good to hear! I'll post my results after my exchange attempt tomorrow. Aside from the gradient I am impressed with the display. Not as bright as LCD in daylight, but I was drawing on a black BG last night and noticed that it has deeper blacks than my Pioneer plasma.
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Fingers crossed for you to get a nice one like mine.
Yeah, the blacks and colors are amazing on the Note 4. The whites are not as bright as the iPhone 6+, but they are fine and way better than whites on my Note 2. In all other respects the Note 4 screen is overall better than even iPhone 6+'s excellent LCD.
One minor disappointment is the very high resolution has made some emulators dog slow as they attempt to render at full resolution, i.e. PPSSPP and ePSXe using ogle renderer. Hoping the devs find a workaround, maybe rendering at half or quarter rest instead - that would still be higher rest than my Note 2 at full rest. :laugh:
What's the color of your device? Anyone have this problem in the white version?
my note 4 has pink tint
I have the same problem on my Verizon white note 4 but on top half of display. Replacement should arrive by Friday :/
You can replicate this by looking at the screen at an extreme angle, obviously the ones that see green and purple straight on are screen defects.
I have a white version and whites are perfect and too bright at high setting. I keep mine half way. The whites are better IMHO than the iphones. The colors more vibrant and, the sharpness is ridiculously sharp. I dont see how they can improve it. I only thing there should be a waynto adjust the color saturation, because basic mode doesnt do much on mine.
My Note 4 has the same issue. It almost looks like the while balance differs from top to bottom, but it is really the brightness that is different.
This is a photo of my Note 4 showing a solid colored image at #030303 (very close to black). It shows how different the pixels in the bottom and in the top emit light.
Image can be seen at 1x.com/tmp/uniformity_note4.jpg
Looks like crap.
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I though i had ocd with phones but that just doesnt bother me in the slightest. Cant really tell unless you force yourself
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similar problem
I have a similar issue, though mine is brighter on the right side than it is on the left. Very noticeable with dark background in lower light situations as someone else mentioned.