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Running AOSP kernels

Hi guys,
I'm running stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean on my d2tmo Galaxy S3. When I look up kernels and whatnot, they are labelled many different ways. Some have JB in the name, some with AOSP in the name. I'm wondering: what types of kernels can I flash if I'm running a rooted stock ROM? I don't want to flash any custom ROMs because I'm a musichead and I like the stock music player
Thank you!

First of all you can get then stock music player with a custom rom
Second you can only run aosp kernels with an aosp rom. Aosp stands for android open source project. Aosp is not stock.
You can only use kernels labeled stock or touchwiz if you are using stock based rom
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3rd of all, what in the heck do you want? Haha, you say you are running a 4.1.2 rom (only aosp available on TMO) so AOSP... but you want a kernel for stock (4.1.1) touchwiz rom? The stock music apk is great and works on all stock touchwiz based roms, and in my resource guide I have a huge list of what is available and what is what, if the kernel says 4.1.1 TouchWiz then it is for 4.1.1 TouchWiz. if it says 4.2 AOSP it is for 4.2 AOSP, if it says 4.1 AOSP then it is for 4.1 AOSP... Look in my resource bible in my signature, or in the dev sections for [kernel].

See, that's where I get confused. Sorry for the noob questions. I've been looking around but can't find clear, precise answers.
I'm running the stock TouchWiz, out of the box, 4.1.1 Jelly Bean (updated while not rooted to 4.1.2). That stock ROM is not the same as an AOSP ROM or an AOKP ROM, is it? I have another Android device that runs CM10.1 so I know a bit here and a bit there about ROMs and whatnot, but I'm not so confident when it comes to my S3.
Simply put, I want to keep that stock ROM, but get a custom kernel, because the stock kernel SUCKS. I need to know what kernels I can flash, and clninja already said I can only flash kernels labelled stock or TW. Am I correct, so far?
Thank you!

Well here's a Kernel that is supposed to be supported for STOCK rooted : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785466 :highfive: But seriously you should get a custom ROM, the performance improvement is incredible and power management too ! :laugh:

There is a 4.1.2 stock ota ROM?!? I suck lol.
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kruse1944 said:
Well here's a Kernel that is supposed to be supported for STOCK rooted : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785466 :highfive: But seriously you should get a custom ROM, the performance improvement is incredible and power management too ! :laugh:
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That ROM is labelled Jelly Bean in the title but underneath that it says it's only compatible with ICS. Question mark.
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?

seokhun said:
That ROM is labelled Jelly Bean in the title but underneath that it says it's only compatible with ICS. Question mark.
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
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There are a couple of touchwiz kernal's around, Ktoonsez is one that I would recommend, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871946
Usually the general rule of thumb with upgrading custom rom is full wipe and flash, but some users has dirty flashed and had no problems so it depends whether your phone likes you or not.

mt3g said:
There is a 4.1.2 stock ota ROM?!? I suck lol.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
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I see what you did there. :highfive:
seokhun said:
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
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Most of the times when you flash a ROM that is built off itself, you can "dirty flash". Example--> That means if you are already on a RootBox Nightly 2/17 with a clean install and RootBox 3/6 comes out, all you have to do is wipe /cache and /dalvik-cache and then flash the new version of the ROM. If any bugs creep up, then if you dirty flashed, chances are that is why.
If you are going to go from a TWiz ROM to an AOSP/AOKP ROM then I suggest a full factory reset and wipe accordingly. That way you have a clean install.
Read the OPs of the ROMs
TieDye21 said:
Usually the general rule of thumb with upgrading custom rom is full wipe and flash, but some users has dirty flashed and had no problems so it depends whether your phone likes you or not.
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Yup. Thankfully my phone likes me, plus I kind of know what I am doing with regards to diagnosis.
@OP Can you please post exactly what your Build Number says in Settings>About Phone?

seokhun said:
That ROM is labelled Jelly Bean in the title but underneath that it says it's only compatible with ICS. Question mark.
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
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You could install the update, but seriously I never do updates. I manual flash the whole new ROM. ( and I never had any accidents or bugs)
For the kernel, its was a example kernel chose the one you prefert ( THAT SUPPORT TOUCHWIZ STOCK ROM ) or just flash a new ROM with build-in kernel like the ParanoidKANGdroid 10.2 ROM !

I flashed the FrostyJellybean ROM with Xone kernel and it's been good so far. I'm a religious person when it comes to battery, but so far it's about the same as the normal drainage on the stock ROM, no noticeable improvements.
Another question (whoop): if I run a Nandroid backup, does that backup include the ROM itself? In other words, if I'm running the Frosty ROM, and there's a ROM I want to test, will creating a Nandroid include the Frosty, or will it just backup the system image excluding the ROM itself? I'm asking this because I have wanted to restore my Nandroids but didn't know if that backup may overwrite my existing ROM with the previous ROM.
Thank you guys for taking your time to help me out, I really appreciate it!
Woody said:
@OP Can you please post exactly what your Build Number says in Settings>About Phone?
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I have flashed a new ROM, so I no longer have the stock Build Number. It now says FrostyJellybean v11.6. I can tell you for a fact that I was previously running 4.1.1 rooted but without any customization or mod whatsoever outside the phone's original settings, so as stock as you can get.

A Nandroid is essentially a snapshot of your ROM at that point in time. You can back it up, try a new ROM and if you don't like it, then restore your Nandroid. A Nandroid should be done before you flash anything. You don't necessarily have to keep them all except your latest, but at least have one for when you try something out.
You can flash and restore just fine from ROM to ROM. Only thing is, you can't restore across platforms. Meaning, if you are on JB 4.1.1, you couldn't restore to ICS 4.0.4. Likewise you can restore a JB 4.1.1 if you are on a JB 4.2.2 ROM because of the file structure. There are ways to do it, but I won't go into that right now. Moral of that story is you can flash and restore laterally as far as builds go, but you cannot restore across different base builds.
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I just wanted to see your Settings>About Phone>Build Number because in your OP, you stated that you were running "stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean". We don't have a stock 4.1.2 ROM, so I was making sure you didn't have another phone. Sure, could be a T999 but there are Canadian versions out there that require different things.

Oh, about the Android version, yes, it's 4.1.1. I wrote 4.1.2 because I thought there was some stuff going on, like wireless and whatnot, and had previously read somewhere that 4.1.2 was rolling out and my phone was doing the "Android is upgrading" thing when it booted up and I didn't check the version before writing that. No worries, it was the stock 4.1.1.
Thank you so much for answering my questions, you guys are awesome!

PA 3.9 for AT&T Galaxy S3

I've been looking for the thread for the latest stable version (3.99?) of PA, but can't find it. When I go in from the AT&T ROM section it goes straight to the 4.0 beta. I also went on their website, but the ROMS are different names and I don't know which one I would choose. It would be better if I could get a link to instructions too, so I don't run into problems since I have never installed PA before. Thanks!

The paranoid android team doesn't officially support your device. You need to find a port for your device
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TheStart said:
I've been looking for the thread for the latest stable version (3.99?) of PA, but can't find it. When I go in from the AT&T ROM section it goes straight to the 4.0 beta. I also went on their website, but the ROMS are different names and I don't know which one I would choose. It would be better if I could get a link to instructions too, so I don't run into problems since I have never installed PA before. Thanks!
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Go here;
http://goo.im/devs/paranoidandroid/roms/d2att
The latest version is pa_d2att-BETA-3.99-RC2-20130921 and it's pretty stable. You'll have to flash it using TWRP instead of CWM. Make sure your bootloader/modem is I747UCDLK3, otherwise it won't flash. It works with the latest 4.3 GApps as well. Hope this helps.

mmcneil said:
Go here;
http://goo.im/devs/paranoidandroid/roms/d2att
The latest version is pa_d2att-BETA-3.99-RC2-20130921 and it's pretty stable. You'll have to flash it using TWRP instead of CWM. Make sure your bootloader/modem is I747UCDLK3, otherwise it won't flash. It works with the latest 4.3 GApps as well. Hope this helps.
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Yeah, thanks! Flashed it and works perfectly.

Is anyone having issues flashing Aroma ROMs on 4.4.2 Rooted?

This is my device at this point:
1. Rooted 4.4.2
2. Stock T-Mobile ROM
3. I can flash SinLess ROM v2.1.2 with no issues after reboot
ANY Aroma ROM I try to flash (for example, DARTHSTALKER_NOTE3_V6), after reboot after installing results in a bootloop at the Samsung screen.
Are NONE of the Aroma ROMs not working on the T-Mobile Note 3?
I would really like to flash the DARTHSTALKER_NOTE3_V6 but can't if I can't get past the Samsung screen on a bootloop.
Any help would be most appreciated.

Darthstalker is a 4.3 base ROM. It won't work on a 4.4 bootloader, which is what you have if you took the OTA or flashed the Odin 4.4 package. It's not Aroma, it's just that most of the Aroma installer ROMs haven't been updated to 4.4 yet. And Samsung made the bootloader incompatible, so once you are on 4.4, you can't boot a 4.3 ROM.
Same with recovery. Make sure you flash 4.4 bootloader versions of TWRP/CWM or it won't boot.

so what IS a 4.4.2 with Aroma and NOT AOSP?
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Darthstalker is a 4.3 base ROM. It won't work on a 4.4 bootloader, which is what you have if you took the OTA or flashed the Odin 4.4 package. It's not Aroma, it's just that most of the Aroma installer ROMs haven't been updated to 4.4 yet. And Samsung made the bootloader incompatible, so once you are on 4.4, you can't boot a 4.3 ROM.
Same with recovery. Make sure you flash 4.4 bootloader versions of TWRP/CWM or it won't boot.
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Thank you for the insight, I was seriously under the (wrong) impression that DeathStalker was a 4.4.2 ROM. I really didn't know.
IS there a list of 4.4.2 stock rooted ROMs with Aroma? You wrote "most of the Aroma installers haven't been updated to 4.4 yet." Which have? It's very confusing because honestly, i was looking and didn't see that DeathStalker was a 4.3 ROM. I went back and looked and noticed a bunch of JB stuff in the list of enhancements which gave it away.
Well, if anyone can suggest a good stable 4.4.2 ROM with Aroma and not AOSP, I want to keep the SPEN functionality that is still missing in CM. Although I do LOVE CM. Used it religiously on my S3.
thank you in advance.

I honestly don't know of any that have. Any reason you want an Aroma installer? It's not like you see it after the install is done. Most modded stock ROMs will list the "base" ROM they started from in the OP. Check that, and if it's a 4.4 base, it will likely work fine on your 4.4 bootloader phone. There's going to be a bit of a rough patch for a while as the ROMs get updated and users get updated. You just have to read up on each one to verify before installing. Just do a thread search for "bootloader" or "4.4" and read some of the posts. Chances are, it's been asked and answered in the thread if you look.
I'm just running a rooted stock build without Knox/CIQ, the stock ZIP that teshxx posted in the dev forum. Then just used Titanium Backup to un-install any bloatware I didn't want. Add a few Xposed modules, and it's a quite good ROM.
If you like CM, the SPEN does work. It acts a bit like a mouse. It's the built-in apps that don't work. You can replace the functionality of many of them. But if you really like some of them, that's not a great option. I ran CM/AOSP builds for a while, but decided the stability of a stock ROM was more important to me right now. I'll probably be back on CM after a while. I like the speed boost from the slimmer ROM.

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ttabbal said:
I honestly don't know of any that have. Any reason you want an Aroma installer? It's not like you see it after the install is done. Most modded stock ROMs will list the "base" ROM they started from in the OP. Check that, and if it's a 4.4 base, it will likely work fine on your 4.4 bootloader phone. There's going to be a bit of a rough patch for a while as the ROMs get updated and users get updated. You just have to read up on each one to verify before installing. Just do a thread search for "bootloader" or "4.4" and read some of the posts. Chances are, it's been asked and answered in the thread if you look.
I'm just running a rooted stock build without Knox/CIQ, the stock ZIP that teshxx posted in the dev forum. Then just used Titanium Backup to un-install any bloatware I didn't want. Add a few Xposed modules, and it's a quite good ROM.
If you like CM, the SPEN does work. It acts a bit like a mouse. It's the built-in apps that don't work. You can replace the functionality of many of them. But if you really like some of them, that's not a great option. I ran CM/AOSP builds for a while, but decided the stability of a stock ROM was more important to me right now. I'll probably be back on CM after a while. I like the speed boost from the slimmer ROM.
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What a thoughtful and excellent reply. Thank you very much. I'm looking at MyROM Revolution and may download that.
Honestly, I wanted Aroma because it seemed so much more customizable upon installation rather than taking the vision that a dev had for the ROM they created. I may well be wrong and thank you for the update on CM and SPEN, good to know. I just didn't check out the official CM thread as I had heard no SPEN support yet.
I'm running Sinless ROM and while good, it has a certain non-customizable feel to it. Just looking for something lighter, just not as light until everything is stable of CM.
thank you and if anyone has any suggestions for any 4.4.2 ROMs with (or without) Aroma please pass them on.
Is there a list of 4.4.2 ROMs that are compatible?

sanjsrik said:
What a thoughtful and excellent reply. Thank you very much. I'm looking at MyROM Revolution and may download that.
Honestly, I wanted Aroma because it seemed so much more customizable upon installation rather than taking the vision that a dev had for the ROM they created. I may well be wrong and thank you for the update on CM and SPEN, good to know. I just didn't check out the official CM thread as I had heard no SPEN support yet.
I'm running Sinless ROM and while good, it has a certain non-customizable feel to it. Just looking for something lighter, just not as light until everything is stable of CM.
thank you and if anyone has any suggestions for any 4.4.2 ROMs with (or without) Aroma please pass them on.
Is there a list of 4.4.2 ROMs that are compatible?
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Dude, you want the best customizable ROM out right now. Head over to the international forum for X-NOTE . Won't even tell ya just head on over you'll be surprised yourself m8
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X-NOTE? Where is it?
chuko303 said:
Dude, you want the best customizable ROM out right now. Head over to the international forum for X-NOTE . Won't even tell ya just head on over you'll be surprised yourself m8
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A few questions:
1. Where is the international forum for the Note 3?
2. Where can I find a link to the X-NOTE ROM? (I searched at the top-level of T-Mobile Note 3 forums and found nothing in results)
**UPDATE: IS THIS THE FORUM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472301
3. Is the international X-NOTE ROM compatible with the T-Mobile device and if so, what is lost/not working in the international version that exists in the T-Mobile version?
thanks in advance.

sanjsrik said:
A few questions:
1. Where is the international forum for the Note 3?
2. Where can I find a link to the X-NOTE ROM? (I searched at the top-level of T-Mobile Note 3 forums and found nothing in results)
**UPDATE: IS THIS THE FORUM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472301
3. Is the international X-NOTE ROM compatible with the T-Mobile device and if so, what is lost/not working in the international version that exists in the T-Mobile version?
thanks in advance.
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It's that one. N look at there questions&answers thread has how to flash it basically download wifi nfc blue tooth fix and wootevers kernel. Wipe of course. Flash rom(CSC is default and also choose NO kernel) one done go on and flash wootevers kernel then the wifi fix. Zip should be a go I did it reverse and wifi was bad flashed it again all gravy
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Oh also the side effect I had. It deleted everything in my internal so make sure you put the kernel and wifi fix on ext SD so you'll hace it available. You'll eventually get your pictures back and music too but not 3rd downloads from the net or apps like wallpapers of screen shots. Be aware

[Q] Best option for stability and speed, custom ROM or Rooted Stock

I've just bought a used Ace 2 which has come with:
GT I8160 (im in the UK)
android v 2.3.6
baseband - I8160XXLL2
2.6.35.7-1218501
build number gingerbread.XXLL2
The threads about flashing a custom ROM have 100+ pages and a lot of links are out of date. I wanted to try a custom ROM, eg CM 10.2 but I have a couple of questions.
I just want to be able to use modern apps, eg Tom Tom app. Google maps, Chrome, and I need to be able to use the phone in different countries, eg France, Portugal, Croatia. The current 2.3.6 is not compatible with some new apps so I need to upgrade.
Should I just update to the Jellybean Samsung provide via Kies?
Should I update to a custom ROM eg CM 10.2 ( i think this may be a stable release), if so will this be stable and have less bugs than the stock ROM?
Should I upgrade to samsung Jellybean and then root and remove bloatware?
I would like to try CM but I think it might not be as stable as the stock ROM, is that correct? Also there are questions as to the process and correct files I will need but I will ask that later if needed.
Thanks!

ringoid said:
I've just bought a used Ace 2 which has come with:
GT I8160 (im in the UK)
android v 2.3.6
baseband - I8160XXLL2
2.6.35.7-1218501
build number gingerbread.XXLL2
The threads about flashing a custom ROM have 100+ pages and a lot of links are out of date. I wanted to try a custom ROM, eg CM 10.2 but I have a couple of questions.
I just want to be able to use modern apps, eg Tom Tom app. Google maps, Chrome, and I need to be able to use the phone in different countries, eg France, Portugal, Croatia. The current 2.3.6 is not compatible with some new apps so I need to upgrade.
Should I just update to the Jellybean Samsung provide via Kies?
Should I update to a custom ROM eg CM 10.2 ( i think this may be a stable release), if so will this be stable and have less bugs than the stock ROM?
Should I upgrade to samsung Jellybean and then root and remove bloatware?
I would like to try CM but I think it might not be as stable as the stock ROM, is that correct? Also there are questions as to the process and correct files I will need but I will ask that later if needed.
Thanks!
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I think you should try it yourself. For my needs, I can't live with stock anymore lol. With my needs, I multitask a lot, needs speed and stability and so far I'm quite satisfied with CM11 built by ace2nutzer with his kernel or ChronoMonochrome's kernel.
For another option, I also like liquid smooth, but I kinda missed some features from CM (kinda forget what was that).
By this time, we already have everything that we could use from stock with alternatives, and some better. But again, try it yourself to know which suits your needs.
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Ok, cool. I guess I can revert back to stock if I dont like it.
So I guess I just use the ROM from this link with the latest build date?
http ://xda.mister-freeze.eu/XDA-files/ace2nutzer/Kernel/
which is ace2nutzer.kernel.4.4.x_20150620_codina.p.l.zip
Just built 2 days ago, 20th June 2015?
Also what gapps do I need?
Thanks!

ringoid said:
Ok, cool. I guess I can revert back to stock if I dont like it.
So I guess I just use the ROM from this link with the latest build date?
http ://xda.mister-freeze.eu/XDA-files/ace2nutzer/Kernel/
which is ace2nutzer.kernel.4.4.x_20150620_codina.p.l.zip
Just built 2 days ago, 20th June 2015?
Also what gapps do I need?
Thanks!
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Nope. That's the kernel only. For the ROM, follow this link: http://xda.mister-freeze.eu/XDA-files/ace2nutzer/CM11/codina/cm-11-20150610-UNOFFICIAL-codina.zip
GApps: http://d-h.st/hrsq
After flashing the ROM, you could flash the kernel with the link you found.

That is really helpful, I would have never found the right files on my own

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decided to start another thread about problems I'm having.

shaqman89 said:
Nope. That's the kernel only. For the ROM, follow this link: http://xda.mister-freeze.eu/XDA-files/ace2nutzer/CM11/codina/cm-11-20150610-UNOFFICIAL-codina.zip
GApps: http://d-h.st/hrsq
After flashing the ROM, you could flash the kernel with the link you found.
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Hi, I want install Ace2Nutzer's "cm-11-20150714-UNOFFICIAL-codina.zip" rom and "ace2nutzer.kernel.4.4.x_20150725_codina.p.l.zip" kernel version. Will it happen stable? First, I flashing rom and after that, flash kernel with CWM, is it OK? Thanks for now...

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Hi, I want install Ace2Nutzer's "cm-11-20150714-UNOFFICIAL-codina.zip" rom and "ace2nutzer.kernel.4.4.x_20150725_codina.p.l.zip" kernel version. Will it happen stable? First, I flashing rom and after that, flash kernel with CWM, is it OK? Thanks for now...
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Try it. Then you'll know whether it is stable or not.
Anyway, so far no one has got serious issues.
Yes, ROM first, then kernel. That is assuming you are at least from stock Jb or any other custom kk or lp roms
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Download CM11 by Chrono and ace2nutzer. Choose better one for Your phone, You know, ROMs works different on each phone.
Nabazgrał to Nexus⁴.

Thank you all, you are the best!

Have you managed to get WIFI working?

Can You Suggest a Good CM Lollipop Rom?

I got the Samsung S3 Tmobile T999. I want tot install the latest Cyanogenmod rom. Mind you, I'm a noobi, never installed CM before. But I'd like a good recommendation for a good, STABLE rom thats CM with the latest Lollipop. But without any issues like camera, video, wifi, calling, etc. . Can you please recommend one?

yahanna said:
I got the Samsung S3 Tmobile T999. I want tot install the latest Cyanogenmod rom. Mind you, I'm a noobi, never installed CM before. But I'd like a good recommendation for a good, STABLE rom thats CM with the latest Lollipop. But without any issues like camera, video, wifi, calling, etc. . Can you please recommend one?
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Honestly to tell you every Rom is almost based of CM . So your best bet would be to install CM 12 cause you get constant updates.

YPG70 said:
Honestly to tell you every Rom is almost based of CM . So your best bet would be to install CM 12 cause you get constant updates.
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Will I have to reinstall all my apps and settings when I get updates?

yahanna said:
Will I have to reinstall all my apps and settings when I get updates?
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No, once you download the update go to recovery and look in cmupdater folder in the root directory, the update should be there. once u install it, you are good to go, everything will be there after u update, so no reinstalling. just clear ur cache before u restart after update.

Ok cool.. Will do that. Appreciate it.