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[Video demo] Connectivity - USB OTG, MHL, RDP, bluetooth keyboard/mouse/gamepad!

Thought this might interest owners and potential owners:
Incidentally, tried Splashtop after the video over 3G whilst out and about today - amazing! Watched a video with sound - playback was smooth. Hardly any lag via 3G in a reasonable coverage area. Also installed an antivirus to my laptop and did some other useful stuff while I was having a coffee at Bunnings - RDP on a 1280x800 screen is awesome.
I should be receiving a USB DAC in the coming week too, so will update as to whether that works or not...
UPDATE: USB DACs do NOT work with the USB OTG feature (as expected). Shame, because the cheapy one I got today sounds amazing compared to my laptop and desktops sound cards! The one I have is a HiFiMAN Express available from here for only $40. Not really for audiophiles, but for those who can appreciate better quality at a fraction of the price these are very good (I think Gizmodo linked to an audiophile review of them where he said they were 70% as good as the sound put out my a $400 sound card, not bad for what the HiFiMAN costs).

NZtechfreak said:
Thought this might interest owners and potential owners:
Incidentally, tried Splashtop after the video over 3G whilst out and about today - amazing! Watched a video with sound - playback was smooth. Hardly any lag via 3G in a reasonable coverage area. Also installed an antivirus to my laptop and did some other useful stuff while I was having a coffee at Bunnings - RDP on a 1280x800 screen is awesome.
I should be receiving a USB DAC in the coming week too, so will update as to whether that works or not...
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sorry,
can you tell me what is the model of the gamepad you use?
Thanks.

Thank you very much for this post. This pretty much seals the deal for me. I will be grabbing one soon.

After watching your video, it looks like I need to find me a nice 20"-23" LED HDMI monitor to go with my Note.

Thank you for this awesome video.
Disappointed to the fact that USB hubs don't work, specially because someone in the forum answered me to this same question saying "yes"
In fact my question was if a SB keyboard and a USB mouse can work together using a USB hub.
Could you please confirm this case?
Thnks!

Pere said:
Thank you for this awesome video.
Disappointed to the fact that USB hubs don't work, specially because someone in the forum answered me to this same question saying "yes"
In fact my question was if a SB keyboard and a USB mouse can work together using a USB hub.
Could you please confirm this case?
Thnks!
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Hey there, sorry if it wasn't clear in the video - the hub itself works fine, its just that using the hubs external power source to power portable HDDs that the Note can't supply enough power to on its own doesn't work (it does in the SGSII). I presume that KB and Mouse would work together with a hub, but unfortunately I can't confirm as I don't own models that are compatible with the Note (or the SGSII).
If anyone in Auckland has some that are compatible I'd love to try this out for people.

NZtechfreak said:
Hey there, sorry if it wasn't clear in the video - the hub itself works fine, its just that using the hubs external power source to power portable HDDs that the Note can't supply enough power to on its own doesn't work (it does in the SGSII). I presume that KB and Mouse would work together with a hub, but unfortunately I can't confirm as I don't own models that are compatible with the Note (or the SGSII).
If anyone in Auckland has some that are compatible I'd love to try this out for people.
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I can confirm that Keyboard and Mouse together work well on SGS2 using powered USB hubs, however its very unstable and sometimes freezes the phone. Hope it becomes better with ICS.
Do you mean that external HDD's can be powered by SGS2? I never thought its possible, seems I need to test that again as my HDD is NTFS formatted so wasn't recognized the last time I tried.

Prankey said:
I can confirm that Keyboard and Mouse together work well on SGS2 using powered USB hubs, however its very unstable and sometimes freezes the phone. Hope it becomes better with ICS.
Do you mean that external HDD's can be powered by SGS2? I never thought its possible, seems I need to test that again as my HDD is NTFS formatted so wasn't recognized the last time I tried.
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No, the SGSII can't supply external HDDs - I was saying that they do work with the SGSII when connected to a hub that has it's own power supply (that doesn't seem to work in the Note however...).

I don't own a hub but I was able to use a 120 gb external 2.5" USB hdd on the note with external power.
The hdd came with a y cable for additional power supply. I just used the note charger to supply power.
I had to format the hdd with fat32 of course. Win7 wouldn't do it, not with GUI and not on command line.
A app did it http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm.
Another thing was to make 1080p movies playable from the fat32 hdd. I used mkvtoolnix to split the movie into 4gb files.
https://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/
With diceplayer I was able to play them without any problems.

What resolution does your laptop run at? When I installed splashtop (phone version), I get set to 1024x720 resolution (looks crappy), while my home PC is 1600x1200. I wonder if splashtop HD would allow me to use the native resolution of my PC (1600x1200)? Any way to install HD apps on the Note?

I set my laptop to run at the same resolution as Splashtop when I'm not at home (otherwise it runs in 1080p).
Don't worry, Splashtop are working on a release version for HD phones (probably just an update to the phone Splashtop) and it'll be available soon - I've been in contact with them recently.

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I set my laptop to run at the same resolution as Splashtop when I'm not at home (otherwise it runs in 1080p).
Don't worry, Splashtop are working on a release version for HD phones (probably just an update to the phone Splashtop) and it'll be available soon - I've been in contact with them recently.
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Thanks for the info, Ill hold off on purchasing. Do you know if there is a way to install HD apps on the Note when the market states they are incompatible?

VTEChump said:
Thanks for the info, Ill hold off on purchasing. Do you know if there is a way to install HD apps on the Note when the market states they are incompatible?
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Not that I'm aware of as yet, some talented dev here needs to work it out for us!
UPDATE: USB DACs do NOT work with the USB OTG feature (as expected). Shame, because the cheapy one I got today sounds amazing compared to my laptop and desktops sound cards! The one I have is a HiFiMAN Express available from here for only $40. Not really for audiophiles, but for those who can appreciate better quality at a fraction of the price these are very good (I think Gizmodo linked to an audiophile review of them where he said they were 70% as good as the sound put out my a $400 sound card, not bad for what the HiFiMAN costs).

Thanks for this thread. Very good information.
But I think it's a bit annoying that it's not 'real' upscaled HD, but just the resolution of the Note (1280x800) being outputted to the screen.
I think Splashtop technically looks very good. But I don't like the security - it seems there is not any encryption in the software, not even the passwords!
What bandwidth does Splashtop require over a 3G connection to be stable? And how intelligent is the streamer to figure out which quality to stream in, in order to get the optimal dynamic stream without lag/pauses ?

drelle said:
Thanks for this thread. Very good information.
But I think it's a bit annoying that it's not 'real' upscaled HD, but just the resolution of the Note (1280x800) being outputted to the screen.
I think Splashtop technically looks very good. But I don't like the security - it seems there is not any encryption in the software, not even the passwords!
What bandwidth does Splashtop require over a 3G connection to be stable? And how intelligent is the streamer to figure out which quality to stream in, in order to get the optimal dynamic stream without lag/pauses ?
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Not sure what bandwidth it requires over 3G for stability, I was in a reasonable reception area at the times I've used it over 3G - may have been the amount of bandwidth on offer but the experience was really great with minimal lag (bad upload for my PC at home is the rate limiting step here).
Must be some other Splashtop users here who can chime in?

Great video.
Does an ordinary usb keyboard work directly on the Note?

oronte said:
Great video.
Does an ordinary usb keyboard work directly on the Note?
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And if keyboard layout is other than the English version, all the special signs (%&Ç@#) works correctly?

VTEChump said:
. Do you know if there is a way to install HD apps on the Note when the market states they are incompatible?
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yes, just use an older version of Market - pull it from an old ROM. And freeze "market updater" in Tibu.
/system/app/Vending.apk

oronte said:
Great video.
Does an ordinary usb keyboard work directly on the Note?
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Yes, they do, tried one today. Some USB mice also work, will try and connect both with the hub when I get home and see how that goes.
Will also revisit HDD connectivity too, as I have a second note Rooted with CF Root - possible that the drives weren't working because of Netchips kernel (in the same way that WiFi tether was broken).

Great video
Iwas surfing around for a page that ensures this device has definitely tv-out feature. I could not be sure for it, cause at most of the pages promoting galaxy note, it is not being said exactly..
Anyway, found here, and watched your video. now I want a galaxy note even 10 times more..
Thanks man, great job..

[Q] Galaxy Nexus Desktop

Hello,
I am planning on using my Galaxy Nexus as my new Desktop computer.
I am planning to achieve this by buying a MHL to HDMI adaptor to display the visual output from my phone to my monitor. I will also be buying a Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse.
My question is Does the Galaxy Nexus or ICS support two bluetooth devices being connect to it at once?
Thanks
Dan

I too would be interested in this.
Where is the best place to buy a MHL cable and...do they all have a charge feature.
P.S. There's a video on YouTube with this. But I'm not sure if he's using 2 peripherals or 1. Good question.
Cheers.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

I just purchased one from
http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/ps...V21386?Ntt=mhl
But I think you have addressed my first issue, getting the phone to charge while its connected through the USB.
Maybe charge it via the 3pin pogo on the side...

dandwhelan said:
Hello,
I am planning on using my Galaxy Nexus as my new Desktop computer.
I am planning to achieve this by buying a MHL to HDMI adaptor to display the visual output from my phone to my monitor. I will also be buying a Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse.
My question is Does the Galaxy Nexus or ICS support two bluetooth devices being connect to it at once?
Thanks
Dan
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No idea about the BT connectivity issue, in the worst case you could use 1 BT connection and for the other a USB OTG cable, if the Nex supports it.
The only problems you'll run into is if you need to perform any heavy tasks. MS Word won't run, any of the higher level Adobe software, etc... There are of course substitute mobile apps, but they're not nearly as powerful as the desktop apps. To understand this, try composing a Word document in a mobile app...it works for writing text, but you'll have to manually compose a Table of Contents. Another test would be Power Point, you can make simple slides but you won't be able to make anything complex. And I'm not sure there's even a mobile version of virtual machine software at all.
Good luck. They're noble ambitions. But I'm a coder and need a machine with at least 4GB RAM. I have to be able to compile code, run VMs, make complex documents etc...in a nutshell, it wouldn't work out for me.

I guess everybody's uses for a Desktop is different. I just want it to browse the web, watch youtube videos, watch the odd tv show and movies.
The processing power in the nexus is defiantly sufficient for what I need it for. Also with Kernels around I could overclock it up to 1.5Ghz but I just dont feel compfortable running my phone at 1.5Ghz. So I think 1.35Ghz would be sufficient and be as far as I push it.
Googles Docs can do any word processing or excel documents which I need when at home but will be rarely using this.

I just want to really use my phone on my tv and flick back and forward. Reply to texts, emails, web stuff. A good bt rollout keyboard and a small mouse would be probably sufficient.
That link didn't work for me. :-\ so the cable has a charge port on it?
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miracast compatibility with note 2

Hi is anyone using miracast on note 2? if yes can you tell how is it working and can you advice on what receiver to buy as there is a lot of cheep one of them on eBay, are they any good?
Ps. what Android version do I need for it to work?
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ciwy said:
Hi is anyone using miracast on note 2? if yes can you tell how is it working and can you advice on what receiver to buy as there is a lot of cheep one of them on eBay, are they any good?
Ps. what Android version do I need for it to work?
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Ciwy, did You buy and test with anything yet. I will purchase the cheapest dongle on ebay and we will see...

umetnic said:
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Ciwy, did You buy and test with anything yet. I will purchase the cheapest dongle on ebay and we will see...
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Yes i did get "a2w measy" but i wasn't happy with the quality of the picture and lags so i have send it back for a refund.
Picture looked like it was "bad quality movie" even thou it was 1080p. It is brilliant idea but need some more work on it.

I've used it on official MK9 4.3 rom to LG smart tv, picture quality was very good but it had around a 1 second lag which made it awful to use.

Actually after a LOT of reading and browsing.... I realized, that miracast is not working as it was the idea on the paper! It is just not ready for prime time...pretty similiar to Bluetooth in the beginings.
A lot of devices are not compatible with a lot of dongles. There is a lot of chinese cheap 20-30usd devices on the market, that according to sellers should support miracast, but that is more often then not not the case at all. And when someone succeeds to connect the dongle with the phone, it does not work very good at all for video casting...audio is often out of sync and video stutters and is choppy...and that is when it works at all.
So my advice to everybody is to get a TV stick/box with Android, for 50$....it will be much easy to setup for casting..and a lot more powerfull, espacially because it could do a lot of extra stuff...
regards,d

umetnic said:
Actually after a LOT of reading and browsing.... I realized, that miracast is not working as it was the idea on the paper! It is just not ready for prime time...pretty similiar to Bluetooth in the beginings.
A lot of devices are not compatible with a lot of dongles. There is a lot of chinese cheap 20-30usd devices on the market, that according to sellers should support miracast, but that is more often then not not the case at all. And when someone succeeds to connect the dongle with the phone, it does not work very good at all for video casting...audio is often out of sync and video stutters and is choppy...and that is when it works at all.
So my advice to everybody is to get a TV stick/box with Android, for 50$....it will be much easy to setup for casting..and a lot more powerfull, espacially because it could do a lot of extra stuff...
regards,d
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Yes I was thinking of buying it too but for me it would be so much easier to use my phone to navigate to where I want with miracast. I have tried to connect my phone to tv and use my tablet to navigate with all sorts of "remotes" from play store and it just wasn't comfortable enough to buy an android dongle.I guess i just need to wait until they will perfect miracast technology I don't mind small lags but picture quality with the compression it use is not good enough on 55 inch tv

Which "china" Miracasr dongle?

Since IOGEAR GWAVR is no where to find in EU and in Ebay cost to much. (shipp+tax). So Im gonna buy a cheap china miracast dongle instead. But which of so many miracast dongle does works with Note 2014?
Considering these cheaps one: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=miracast&_sop=15
But if any know where in EU does it sale IOGEAR GWAVR, that doesnt cost a fortune and I will buy it instead.

dt33 said:
Since IOGEAR GWAVR is no where to find in EU and in Ebay cost to much. (shipp+tax). So Im gonna buy a cheap china miracast dongle instead. But which of so many miracast dongle does works with Note 2014?
Considering these cheaps one: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=miracast&_sop=15
But if any know where in EU does it sale IOGEAR GWAVR, that doesnt cost a fortune and I will buy it instead.
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I am using Google Chrome cast. While i don't get the entire tablet on the screen I can watch any videos, pictures etc on my TV and it was 35 bucks at best buy. The video is pretty much all I cared about and it saved me some money doing it this way.

i search Taobao. Com ,there are a lot of options. The price is about 160 rmb (20-30 US dollars)

I'm using the action tech screen beam pro right now and its great. Watching one piece via S anime while writing this.
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xZAOx said:
I am using Google Chrome cast. While i don't get the entire tablet on the screen I can watch any videos, pictures etc on my TV and it was 35 bucks at best buy. The video is pretty much all I cared about and it saved me some money doing it this way.
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Chromecast doesnt support screen mirroring and maybe it will support it later.
zhuhang1694 said:
i search Taobao. Com ,there are a lot of options. The price is about 160 rmb (20-30 US dollars)
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The site is in chinese. >_>
Duly.noted said:
I'm using the action tech screen beam pro right now and its great. Watching one piece via S anime while writing this.
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Too expensive, cost over 100US to buy it and that is too much.
I just want stream live streams to TV and screen mirroring. Buy from ebay, takes around 1-2 months (if lucky an be faster) and dont want to wait if buy a none working with Note 2014.

dt33 said:
Chromecast doesnt support screen mirroring and maybe it will support it later.
The site is in chinese. >_>
Too expensive, cost over 100US to buy it and that is too much.
I just want stream live streams to TV and screen mirroring. Buy from ebay, takes around 1-2 months (if lucky an be faster) and dont want to wait if buy a none working with Note 2014.
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I know whet you looking but mine was 60 and I frequently see it for close to 40
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Ordered 24US dongle and see how it works out. Just need to wait few weeks for it to arrive. Last 2 packages from China, took less than 2 weeks and hopes this one too.
Galaxy Note SM-P605

dt33 said:
Ordered 24US dongle and see how it works out. Just need to wait few weeks for it to arrive. Last 2 packages from China, took less than 2 weeks and hopes this one too.
Galaxy Note SM-P605
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link?

Romokos said:
link?
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Its in mine first post and just pick u choice. Myself I picked this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-HD-108...U_MultiFormatMediaPlayers&hash=item25866d697c
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why not use transfer services ,so cheap
dt33 said:
Chromecast doesnt support screen mirroring and maybe it will support it later.
The site is in chinese. >_>
Too expensive, cost over 100US to buy it and that is too much.
I just want stream live streams to TV and screen mirroring. Buy from ebay, takes around 1-2 months (if lucky an be faster) and dont want to wait if buy a none working with Note 2014.
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Nice thread! I would like to learn a little more of this!
Please can someone share the experience ?
EZCast/ EZMirror ? iPush ? Some say can do miracast and airplay!
Can we have a dongle :
- HDMI and AV connection ?
- Mirror what's on our Android screen
- Mirror what's on iPhone screen
- Mirror PC/MAC
Thanks

Hi all,
My colleagues and I use this :
www.tinydeal.com/fr/hi763-miracast-dlna-airplay-wifi-display-dongle-for-smartphone-p-111836.html
It is compatible with Miracast, DLNA and AirPlay. I can mirror my android devices and computers screen (Wifi Display) and stream airplay on the TV.
Also, there are some little issue with some of custom roms. But with my SM-P600 (MK1) it works flawlessly.

MxCraft said:
Hi all,
My colleagues and I use this :
www.tinydeal.com/fr/hi763-miracast-dlna-airplay-wifi-display-dongle-for-smartphone-p-111836.html
It is compatible with Miracast, DLNA and AirPlay. I can mirror my android devices and computers screen (Wifi Display) and stream airplay on the TV.
Also, there are some little issue with some of custom roms. But with my SM-P600 (MK1) it works flawlessly.
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Thanks!
I read that some requires iPush to be downloaded from Play others EZCast/EZAir, is it the case for this dongle?
I've seen some youtube reviews and it seems that visualizing video the audio is a little lag from the image, is it common from this cheap dongles?
Anyone knows if there is any dongle with RCA analogue output instead of using an expensive HDMI-RCA converter ?

jpl69 said:
Thanks!
I read that some requires iPush to be downloaded from Play others EZCast/EZAir, is it the case for this dongle?
I've seen some youtube reviews and it seems that visualizing video the audio is a little lag from the image, is it common from this cheap dongles?
Anyone knows if there is any dongle with RCA analogue output instead of using an expensive HDMI-RCA converter ?
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Sorry, I don't really understand "some requires iPush to be downloaded from Play others EZCast/EZAir, is it the case for this dongle?". But I'm using the Note 10.1 2014 with the native mirroring service included. And on my computer I'm using the native wireless display of windows 8 (I have an Intel proc with an Nvidia video card). Some of my colleagues use iTunes for streaming on the dongle.
I've forgot to mention one thing. The dongle does not allow to receive all airplay, miracast, dlna on the same time. There is a little switch on the dongle for choosing the dlna or airplay mode.

My recommendation is to avoid all cheap chinese miracast dongles. Got mine from Ebay and it works like crap.
- Wifi streaming hangs all the time.
- Resolution works fine from beginning and suddenly it changed to a weird aspect ratio size and all is zoomed in on TV.
That dongle is collecting dust now.

UAU
I've decided to give a try and i'm just impressed! It was the cheapest i've found on ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371043321886?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Not only came well packed on an impressive case as it does exactly what it says!
Tried our Note 2014 (605), iphone 5S and a toshiba laptop.
I advise you to just look at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrzaLjA1EiiBiYR4VKCoZpA
It works just like on the videos.

@ jpl69
Does it work for movies and gaming? How the range?

For gaming, just forget. At least half second gap, to much for gaming.
I have everything in my room, router tv/dongle pc, android, iphone so the range is about 3m.
For movies, youtube is awsome.

jpl69 said:
For gaming, just forget. At least half second gap, to much for gaming.
I have everything in my room, router tv/dongle pc, android, iphone so the range is about 3m.
For movies, youtube is awsome.
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Do you need to use the EZcast app or you simply use the built-in screen mirroring function of the Note 2014?

You must use the EZCast , but just to trigger the mirror function on the device.

SM-T705 NO Display, headless re-flash?

I have a SM-T705 with broken display, the glass seems fine and the rest of the tab is in a really good shape. New displays for this device is incredibly expensive and I can't afford. The device has not been rooted or flashed before, not that I know of
Can I reuse this device and it's hardware for something else? I was thinking of installing Linux and run a file server or something. But how the hell am I going to do that without display? Any ideas?

buy a mhl out to connect to a monitor or tv

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786395

Cool thanks a lot. Let's say I would like to use it as a Android Media TV with latest marshmallow 6, would a MHL 3.0 with power input be compatible?
If to use as a android media TV, any other nice stuff I should consider? hardware hacks/mods ROMS etc?