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[Q] What is the location of the pushed OTA update?

So last night I received the official OTA update on my phone. I'm not really ready for it (mainly because Lockpicker doesn't work on 2.2 yet).
Anyway, I digress. Anyone know the physical location of the update.zip file is downloaded to? The one on the root of my sd card is way too small to be the right one. I've searched through the directories with Astro File Manager and came up empty. It's on there though. I just can't seem to find it.
I just want to move the file for future use. The dialog box to update is already getting on my nerves and the day just started.
On a side note, is it safe to assume my update will fail with any changes I have made to the system folders? I haven't done a lot but I know I have done a few things. I may end up just going the RUU route when I'm ready. I think I've just renamed some bogus apps (City ID, etc.), updated the kernel to allow wireless tethering, installed boot animations with sound, and updated the splash screen after enabling S-OFF. I'm going to try and restore as much as I can to stock up ultimately will probably forgotten something I did. The boot animations and splash screen are probably not part of the update checksum, right?

I believe it's in /cache. I'm not 100% sure though, never actually had to check, just what i've heard. Try using root explorer and checking.

tcberg2010 said:
I believe it's in /cache. I'm not 100% sure though, never actually had to check, just what i've heard. Try using root explorer and checking.
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Is Root Explorer really better than ASTRO File Manager? Would it allow me to access this directory? ASTRO File Manager didn't see anything due to rights probably. Root Explorer nice but I'm not sure if it's worth the cash. Worth it?
I was able to pull the via adb by mounting the system.
Thanks for the help. The location was dead on.

Any ideas of what files I can delete other than the .zip file? I deleted the zip file but still am getting the update dialog.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know that update.zip can be used on any Incredible, or is there some sort of authentication process?

Any Droid Incredible that is at the proper level can use the update. Same as getting it Over The Air.

Does anyone know what files I should delete in the /cache folder to get rid of whatever files the OTA pushed? It tried to update but failed and am trying to get rid of all traces of it.
Thanks.

8e5ad8d6ea2d.OTA_IncredibleC_Verizon_WWE_3.21.605.1_1.22.605.2_release_sign.zip

What folder is that in?

zmanzbo said:
What folder is that in?
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It's in /cache, as stated in Post #2 of this thread. You can access it with Root Explorer, which is cool, or via adb in shell by mounting the system folder.

[Q](SOLVED) Personal Audio files

Hi All,
I've taken a look around and can't seem to find anything relating to this so I'm gona ask.
I've just got my DHD and love it but I have never used Android before so it's taking some getting used to. ( I'll get there I'm sure )
My question is I have an MP3 file I'd like to use for my notifications ( comes from my HTC Touch HD ) but for the life of me I can't seem to put it in the media folder that the DHD uses. I can find it using the ES file search thing but it won't let me copy in to it?
Do I need to get admin rights? Rooting or whatever its called?
Sorry if it's a daft question. but its annoying the bejesus outa me.
Thanks in advance
JD

I think you have got to place the mp3 in a folder on the root of your sdcard called "notifications".
Hope that works!

Hi CD993,
Thanks for the reply but..
I can't find any folders on the sdcard other than the ones i've made from having it in my Touch HD.
I can however find the Notifications folder in audio on the phones memory. This has all the MP3's that the phone uses. But still I can't paste to it. Just says copy failed.
I'm just wondering if I need to "jailbreak it" or root....something something to be able to add to the root folders.

put your phone in settings,connect to pc,select disc drive now your computer willl see your sdcard as a drive look at your my computer and either go into my mobile at the bottom or go into the sdcard on my computer it comes up as Idrive as copy your mp3 file into your mobile here disconnect your mobile and search for it in your mp3 files through your media music app.you may have to reboot your mobile once disconnected from the computer so the file gets noticed.
if this is not what your looking for then sorry but I dunno.

Hi Magpie,
Thanks but no.
I already have the MP3 on the sdcard but I can't seem to copy it to the system/media/audio/notifications. This is where the phone reads the sounds that it plays when you receive email/txt etc.
Maybe I should just flash a new ROM although this appears harder than it is with the touch HD on winmo lol
Thanks for the reply anyways
JD
Edit:
I've since managed to Root the phone "give me root admin rights" but still am unable to copy files to the phones root folders.

Im sure you just put the mp3's in a folder on your sdcard called notifications e.g. sdcard/notifications/ringtone.mp3

cd993 said:
Im sure you just put the mp3's in a folder on your sdcard called notifications e.g. sdcard/notifications/ringtone.mp3
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Hi CD993,
Maybe there is a problem with my sdcard? I don't have such a folder on it. I have a music folder data folders google folders I've looked through them all and can't find a notifications folder on the sdcard?
Should the DHD be using the sdcard as its main source for audio etc?

SdCard/Sounds/Notifications
SdCard/Sounds/Alarms
SdCard/Sounds/Ringtones
SdCard/Sounds/UI
Make the folders as you need them. Then you will be able to find them in the Sounds tab in the menu.
jadeddave said:
Hi CD993, Should the DHD be using the sdcard as its main source for audio etc?
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If you have root access you should be able to write them to the main memory using a program like Root Explorer. You can find system sounds in /System/Media/Audio.

Kalavere said:
SdCard/Sounds/Notifications
SdCard/Sounds/Alarms
SdCard/Sounds/Ringtones
SdCard/Sounds/UI
Make the folders as you need them. Then you will be able to find them in the Sounds tab in the menu.
If you have root access you should be able to write them to the main memory using a program like Root Explorer. You can find system sounds in /System/Media/Audio.
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Hi Kalavere,
you are a star! Easy when you know how I guess Now I know how to do that it's time to learn to flash ROMS to droids...Wish me luck not to brick it lol

jadeddave said:
Hi Kalavere,
you are a star! Easy when you know how I guess Now I know how to do that it's time to learn to flash ROMS to droids...Wish me luck not to brick it lol
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Flashing Android ROMs is so much easier than WM. It's getting the root that is the *****. It took me ages to work out how to install the ADB drivers when I first got my Desire.
Flashing ROM's just replaces two folders, so if you are updating from one AOSP ROM to another, maybe even Sense I don't know I don't use it, generally speaking you don't need to wipe the phone and you keep all of your apps.

cd993 said:
Im sure you just put the mp3's in a folder on your sdcard called notifications e.g. sdcard/notifications/ringtone.mp3
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Hi cd993,
I realise now you were saying the same thing
Sorry for my noobish dismissal
JD

Kalavere said:
Flashing Android ROMs is so much easier than WM. It's getting the root that is the *****. It took me ages to work out how to install the ADB drivers when I first got my Desire.
Flashing ROM's just replaces two folders, so if you are updating from one AOSP ROM to another, maybe even Sense I don't know I don't use it, generally speaking you don't need to wipe the phone and you keep all of your apps.
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Hi Kal,
Yes as far as I'm aware I have root perms. i used VISIOnary? and followed a thread on here When I open cmd promt or whatever its called on linux and type su it gives me the # which apparantly means i have rooted it?
Yet I was unable to copy to that folder on the phones main memory.
That ADB driver I'm afraid i've not even looked into it yet all I know is my win 7 failed to install it when I plugged the phone in for the first time.
I've gotten as far as using titanium back up for apps etc. Just need to do some more research I guess I'm new to android
anyway thanks for all your help people. i'm sure i'll have more questions in the appropriate threads as time goes by. Thanks all
JD

Personal Audio Files for Yahoo! Mail
Everything you all have said works, if I put something in mnt/sdcard/media/audio/notifications I am able to then see the files under the Sounds Setting.
My issue is needing Yahoo Mail to see the notification. For that I need to copy the files to /system/media/audio/notification and for that I am not able to change the permissions. I have tried ES File Explorer and I am not even able to move up from sdcard. I have also tried total commander and I get "Error writing to target file! /system/media/audio/notifications/yahoo.mp3
Can someone please help. I really like the Yahoo! application.

Setting Yahoo Notification
Root explorer will allow you to change the directory from Read Only to Read Write. It can be purchased from Play (Market) or acquired by other means as I did.
Copy the file to /system/media/audio/notification using root explorer.
Reboot.
Tada...

[Q] I need help better understanding the Kitkat SD card restristion

First, I want to say that I have unrooted version of this tablet on Version 4.4.2
After I was forced to up date I knew I would loose some function with my SD card. I thought the restriction were going to be if that app didn't create the file that app couldn't modify it. So today I had tried to create a folder with in a folder within a folder with ES File Manager and it was unable to do so. Is this apart of the regular restrictions? Is there a non root solution that doesn't involve taking the SD card to the computer and then creating the file structure with the app?

Icon000 said:
First, I want to say that I have unrooted version of this tablet on Version 4.4.2
After I was forced to up date I knew I would loose some function with my SD card. I thought the restriction were going to be if that app didn't create the file that app couldn't modify it. So today I had tried to create a folder with in a folder within a folder with ES File Manager and it was unable to do so. Is this apart of the regular restrictions? Is there a non root solution that doesn't involve taking the SD card to the computer and then creating the file structure with the app?
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Normal........ You need to use the native file manager (my files).

kkretch said:
Normal........ You need to use the native file manager (my files).
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Thanks for the update on this. I guess the only way to use a non native file manager is root?

Icon000 said:
Thanks for the update on this. I guess the only way to use a non native file manager is root?
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Correct.

[Q] Update Noticifation?

My T705 is running very nicely on KK and I'm not really too bothered about updating it to Lollipop. So is there a way to get rid of the Update icon in the notification bar?
Thanks

If you are rooted you should not get the notification.
There is a guide but it is for the S3 phone, it might give you a guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856632
John.

I think that means you've already downloaded the update. From memory you should have a folder named FOTA on your internal storage. Delete that to get rid of the notification.
However it would be better to actually move it to your external sd card for future use.
Also I'm sure you can disable automatic updates in settings.

The only FOTA files I could find were these, please see image attached.

schrodinger56 said:
The only FOTA files I could find were these, please see image attached.
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Should be a normal folder. If it's not there then you probably don't have the update downloaded yet.

ashyx said:
Should be a normal folder. If it's not there then you probably don't have the update downloaded yet.
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According to the screens (see images) the update has been downloaded.

It could be in the root of your internal storage. You may need a file manager such as es explorer that can show root folders.

ashyx said:
It could be in the root of your internal storage. You may need a file manager such as es explorer that can show root folders.
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I've tried a couple of file manager apps but all I can find called FOTA is what's shown above.

No they are just apps.
It must be there somewhere. It is most certainly on your internal storage.
It may not necessarily be in a folder called fota. That is coming from memory. Ota's are usually zips, but could be named anthing.
It'll just be one large file somewhere.

ashyx said:
No they are just apps.
It must be there somewhere. It is most certainly on your internal storage.
It may not necessarily be in a folder called fota. That is coming from memory. Ota's are usually zips, but could be named anything.
It'll just be one large file somewhere.
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If it's there, which it is, it's keeping itself very well hidden. The various Root File Explorers I've used just cannot find it!!
Looks like I'll just have to put up with it.

Can an file manger with a large file finder not find it for you, if the file is 800mb+ it should show up.
Try File Manager HD
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Can an file manger with a large file finder not find it for you, if the file is 800mb+ it should show up.
Try File Manager HD
John.
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Tried that app i.e. File Manager HD but still no luck. I've tried searching by size, name etc but nothing shows up.

Have you looked in Android/data? Both internal and ex sdcard.

I eventually found it, don't ask how!! I moved it to the ext SD card and now the notification has gone. Ironically it wouldn't have installed anyway because my T705 is rooted and OTAs don't install on a rooted device.
Thanks to all.

schrodinger56 said:
I eventually found it, don't ask how!! I moved it to the ext SD card and now the notification has gone. Ironically it wouldn't have installed anyway because my T705 is rooted and OTAs don't install on a rooted device.
Thanks to all.
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Where was it and what's it called?

ashyx said:
Where was it and what's it called?
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I think it was just luck that I came across it. It was in a Folder called Data in another folder called FOTA. I moved it to my external SD card where it now resides.

And the name of the file?

It was called update.zip

[Q] Cannot delete files from external SD

Using ES File Explorer Pro, I get the prompt popup to allow permissions to delete from External SD when I try to delete something, but it just errors out with "Task failed"
Anyone know how to solve this without root? Worked in Nougat

*Detection* said:
Using ES File Explorer Pro, I get the prompt popup to allow permissions to delete from External SD when I try to delete something, but it just errors out with "Task failed"
Anyone know how to solve this without root? Worked in Nougat
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Is what you're trying to delete something that was on the card prior to putting it in the S9? Also, can you create a folder with ES on the SD card? I ve tried deleting an empty folder on my SD using ES with no problem and I can create and delete folders on it. I'm trying to remember if my card was formatted in the S9 but drawing a blank.

Tel864 said:
Is what you're trying to delete something that was on the card prior to putting it in the S9? Also, can you create a folder with ES on the SD card? I ve tried deleting an empty folder on my SD using ES with no problem and I can create and delete folders on it. I'm trying to remember if my card was formatted in the S9 but drawing a blank.
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Nope, it appears I have no permissions other than read on it (At least from within ES File Explorer Pro), but connecting the phone to a PC I can copy and delete from it fine
The files I am trying to delete were copied from PC to S9 Ext SD mostly, some are from S7 but no difference with permissions, although there are some on there that we sent to me via S9 WhatsApp and some created in S9 photo editing apps, so not sure how they ended up there without any write permissions unless the problem is ES itself

had that on my 128Gb sd card. It appears it had gone read-only ... for good. dead card for me try on a computer if you can delete a file or if it's also read-only

thorcyar said:
had that on my 128Gb sd card. It appears it had gone read-only ... for good. dead card for me try on a computer if you can delete a file or if it's also read-only
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Yea works fine on a PC, or with the phone connected to PC

OK so I found a post on another Android forum from way back in 2014, someone with the exact same problem on their S5, one of the replies suggested that this is a Samsung restriction and that only their "My Files" file manager app can delete from external SD, so I tried that and it worked fine
Yet some of you say you have full permissions with ES File Explorer to write/delete on EXTERNAL SD? (Not the internal storage)

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OK so I found a post on another Android forum from way back in 2014, someone with the exact same problem on their S5, one of the replies suggested that this is a Samsung restriction and that only their "My Files" file manager app can delete from external SD, so I tried that and it worked fine
Yet some of you say you have full permissions with ES File Explorer to write/delete on EXTERNAL SD? (Not the internal storage)
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Yep, I made a folder and deleted it then I found an epub book Moon Reader had placed there and I deleted that also using ES Explorer Pro. You probably checked this but when you look at ES in Settings>Apps>ES File Explorer Pro>Storage, do you have a box at the bottom under for "allow access"? I ask because I have a box there for "Deny Access"

Tel864 said:
Yep, I made a folder and deleted it then I found an epub book Moon Reader had placed there and I deleted that also using ES Explorer Pro. You probably checked this but when you look at ES in Settings>Apps>ES File Explorer Pro>Storage, do you have a box at the bottom under for "allow access"? I ask because I have a box there for "Deny Access"
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I don't no, I just have CHANGE for changing where the app is installed, either Internal or External

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I don't no, I just have CHANGE for changing where the app is installed, either Internal or External
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I was hoping that was it. In ES Explorer's settings under storage I have that DENY ACCESS box at the bottom.

Tel864 said:
I was hoping that was it. In ES Explorer's settings under storage I have that DENY ACCESS box at the bottom.
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That probably is it, but why wouldn't I have it?
Mine looks identical but without that box
Which phone is that? S9?
Asking because even the wording is different, mine says Internal Storage, yours says Device Memory

Right, it's the S9 and the install of ES Explorer is just a straight install, nothing fancy done. I think you're right though, we're possibly looking at the cause,

Tel864 said:
Right, it's the S9 and the install of ES Explorer is just a straight install, nothing fancy done. I think you're right though, we're possibly looking at the cause,
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Seems very strange that the wording for internal storage would be different between two S9s with the same app installed, cannot see how that would be possible unless the firmware was causing it
Maybe firmware differences have changed some SD permissions, I'm running the latest O2U firmware BRE5 May 1 security Patch

*Detection* said:
Seems very strange that the wording for internal storage would be different between two S9s with the same app installed, cannot see how that would be possible unless the firmware was causing it
Maybe firmware differences have changed some SD permissions, I'm running the latest O2U firmware BRE5 May 1 security Patch
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Could be since I'm still on the Feb patch. I thought about clicking that "deny access" box but I'm afraid it won't repopulate with a "allow access" box. I guess you've tried moving the app and data to the SD card to see what that does. I did move mine to SD and back to internal and it still works.

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Could be since I'm still on the Feb patch. I thought about clicking that "deny access" box but I'm afraid it won't repopulate with a "allow access" box. I guess you've tried moving the app and data to the SD card to see what that does. I did move mine to SD and back to internal and it still works.
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Yea same result on internal or external and nothing new appears on the info panel either, maybe one of their amazing security updates has blocked SD write permissions then, not really a big fan of this, why would an SD card be blocked for stuff like that? Obviously if we put an SD card in our phones it's because we want to read and write to them

One more suggestion if you haven't tried it. Pop in another SD and try it, preferably one you can format in in phone.

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One more suggestion if you haven't tried it. Pop in another SD and try it, preferably one you can format in in phone.
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Yea good plan, I`ll give that a shot at some point, atm I've just re-enabled "My Files" for when I want to delete something, no extra steps than opening ES to delete something really, unless I forget and try to use ES first :silly:

Found the issue, I had disabled "My Files" stock file manager as I don't use any other file manager than ES, but it turns out that ES requires that to be enabled to give ES File Explorer External SD card permissions, for some retarded reason
Enabled it, tried to delete a file, it asked the same permissions question, except instead of just saying "Failed" this time, it opened My Files and told me to select the External SD card, after which it deleted the file successfully
So ES File Explorer Pro is so great it requires yet another file manager to work properly

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Found the issue, I had disabled "My Files" stock file manager as I don't use any other file manager than ES, but it turns out that ES requires that to be enabled to give ES File Explorer External SD card permissions, for some retarded reason
Enabled it, tried to delete a file, it asked the same permissions question, except instead of just saying "Failed" this time, it opened My Files and told me to select the External SD card, after which it deleted the file successfully
So ES File Explorer Pro is so great it requires yet another file manager to work properly
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Huh, didn't know that. I always just ignored the stock file manager so I guess that's why I never came across that.

Tel864 said:
Huh, didn't know that. I always just ignored the stock file manager so I guess that's why I never came across that.
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Yea I just disable what I'll never use so it's not crowding up the app drawer / taking up resources running in the background 'just in case' I want to open it at some point lol, Android is dumb
They swear apps sitting in the background take up no resources, but they do, they swear those apps will give back those resources when requested by active apps (Thought they did not take up any resources? )
I have tested many times the opening speed of an app that is sitting in the background vs 100% closed, and it is an unnoticeable difference
But anyway back on subject, yes, ES File Explorer cannot work properly on a Samsung without the stock file manager being active

Ok, I just used Package Disabler Pro to disable "My Files" and it didn't affect ES, I was still able to delete an entire directory on my SD card.