Noob question: I've ordered a factory unlocked M-8 from Amazon which should be arriving in a couple of days. Does HTC ship these devices with S-OFF (that is, is being factory unlocked automatically make it S-OFF), or will I have to do that in order to flash custom ROMs? The last HTC I had was the Vivid, and I had to do the wire trick to make it S-OFF. It seems the process is simpler now with Firewater, but just wondering what to expect. Thx.
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bruce7373 said:
Noob question: I've ordered a factory unlocked M-8 from Amazon which should be arriving in a couple of days. Does HTC ship these devices with S-OFF, or will I have to do that in order to flash custom ROMs? The last HTC I had was the Vivid, and I did the wire trick to make it S-OFF. It seems the process is simpler now with Firewater, but just wondering what to expect. Thx.
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"Factory unlocked" means "SIM unlocked/Carrier unlocked" i.e. You can use it on any network
The bootloader won't be unlocked and it won't be S-OFF from HTC.
donalgodon said:
"Factory unlocked" means "SIM unlocked/Carrier unlocked" i.e. You can use it on any network
The bootloader won't be unlocked and it won't be S-OFF from HTC.
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Ah, OK, gotcha. Thx.
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But even without s off, you can still flash roms you just need to unlock the bootloader via htc dev
RossMacgill said:
But even without s off, you can still flash roms you just need to unlock the bootloader via htc dev
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Right. I remember this now from having had the Vivid a few years ago. Major brain fart, lol. It's a ***** getting old (sigh)...
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Hey!
If I unlock my phone now via htcdev, s-on I guess, am I able to make it s-off later via 'custom' procedure?
Thanks for answer
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Your details will be logged with HTC so pointless. If you can wait then best to wait or if you just want to go ahead you can unlock via HTC dev.
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i dont care about my logged details on htcdev.
the main point is that i can be sure that its be possible to make it s-off *after* unlocking with htcdev.
stiffmast3r said:
i dont care about my logged details on htcdev.
the main point is that i can be sure that its be possible to make it s-off *after* unlocking with htcdev.
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Pretty sure it can still be done (going S-OFF) if you "relock" the device through HTC Dev.
oh, i can relock it via htcdev? cool....
i have no experience with htcdev, and have my "HOX" (new name for the one X? saw it sametimes here ) since yesterday.
maybe its better to wait 1 week or 2, but ima flashaholic....
i must do it, I MUST DO IT!!!!!111
stiffmast3r said:
oh, i can relock it via htcdev? cool....
i have no experience with htcdev, and have my "HOX" (new name for the one X? saw it sametimes here ) since yesterday.
maybe its better to wait 1 week or 2, but ima flashaholic....
i must do it, I MUST DO IT!!!!!111
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Yeah I think it's possible. Keep in mind that a "relocked" device is not the same thing as "locked" device. HTC will know that your device has been unlocked and the warranty is still less then with a locked device!
yeah, i think the warranty is not a big problem, i got a "good guy" at a store
Yes but if you want to send the device off to HTC for a warranty repair a year down the line that's where the issue will kick in. Hence making sense to wait for S-OFF. And potentially for resale value a locked bootloader sounds better than a relocked bootloader.
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I've heard HTC don't care if its unlocked. My friend told me as long as your issue isn't from overclocking till it fries or something, they don't care and will take it.
Plus with s-off, you can erase all traces on the phone that it was unlocked. Of course HTC probably still knows since you submitted but I've read and my friends told me HTC don't really care as long as you didn't cause it thru software.
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I ran firewater and it started off at 1 bottle something... It then stopped and said something about my boot loader being patched??? So does that mean I can't unlock my phone? I have the T-Mobile HTC one m8 version.
I have a computer that runs Windows 8.1 if that's any use or help.
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Calz- said:
I ran firewater and it started off at 1 bottle something... It then stopped and said something about my boot loader being patched??? So does that mean I can't unlock my phone? I have the T-Mobile HTC one m8 version.
I have a computer that runs Windows 8.1 if that's any use or help.
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The message was: kernel contains HTC anti-firewater patch! ?
Try this.
If the message wasn't this, google the real message to find similar situations.
Its not clear whether you understand the difference between bootloader unlock and S-off. S-off isn't needed to unlock the bootloader, root, flash ROMs, etc.
redpoint73 said:
Its not clear whether you understand the difference between bootloader unlock and S-off. S-off isn't needed to unlock the bootloader, root, flash ROMs, etc.
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I have my boot loader unlocked. I'm just s-on and no matter what I try. It says HTC has patched it. I want to be s-off to flash a firmware, from my understanding to be able to flash the new updated roms.
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s-off for t-mobile (sunshine s-off) (no other way until now) and all other
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2794020
i used it on my tmobile europeen m8
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I have my boot loader unlocked.
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Then your title is confusing. To me, it means you are having issues unlocking the bootloader.
Make sure you are on stock ROM, stock kernel, and some say even stock recovery. If firewater still doesn't work, you will need to use sunshine.
FYI, stock ROM and kernel are recommended for sunshine, as well.
Thanks for everyone who tried to help. I tried firewater again and again and got s-off and super cid finally. Just guess luck was on my side.
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Calz- said:
Thanks for everyone who tried to help. I tried firewater again and again and got s-off and super cid finally. Just guess luck was on my side.
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Sometimes vigilance pays off.
What version of Sense are you on? I tried to do it the other day, also t-mobile, when I go to the final command line, nothing happens.
I am looking to sell or trade in my m8 (with mazuma mobile, envirophone) etc, however, even though I have reinstalled stock unrooted software and recovery etc, I still get a message when I am setting up the phone that it is a "test device".
Does anyone know how I can get this of this? If not, will it cause any issues during the trade in process?
My device is officially unlocked via htc, and s-off via sunshine.
Cheers
Stewart
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There is a process to return s on then relock bootloader, however, why? I'd rather buy a phone in your state anyway.. Most people on swappa would too I think
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yea swappa makes more sense unless you need the money fast from the trade in/sell
I would tend to agree. S-off is getting harder as time goes on. Leave it S-off and maybe just relock the bootloader. If the buyer is into ROMs, they will appreciate how easy it will be to unlock the bootloader. If they aren't, they will never notice it is S-off.
Ok, thanks, so how would I go about re locking the boot Loader?
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StuMcBill said:
Ok, thanks, so how would I go about re locking the boot Loader?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571
Since you are S-off, you can actually lock, rather than "relock".
Hey StuMcBill,
Please share more details about your M8. And your terms/preferences for an exchange.
I got my HTC One M8 about a month or more ago switching from my Xperia Z2, and of course, the first thing I had to do with it was root it. Since I had to unlock the bootloader first, I went into bootloader mode and saw the info on the top of the screen. As expected, it says LOCKED, but the funny thing is, it says S-OFF instead of S-ON. Is there any way that this can happen to brand new phones? How can I make sure I am S-OFF, other than going into bootloader mode? I want to convert my phone to GPE but don't want to brick it in the process. Thanks :good:
Schwaggmeister said:
I got my HTC One M8 about a month or more ago switching from my Xperia Z2, and of course, the first thing I had to do with it was root it. Since I had to unlock the bootloader first, I went into bootloader mode and saw the info on the top of the screen. As expected, it says LOCKED, but the funny thing is, it says S-OFF instead of S-ON. Is there any way that this can happen to brand new phones? How can I make sure I am S-OFF, other than going into bootloader mode? I want to convert my phone to GPE but don't want to brick it in the process. Thanks :good:
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You got lucky, I traded in my m8 for the nexus 6 and left it s-off for the next person that gets it ^^
If it says S-OFF in bootloader you are indeed S-OFF. There's an adb shell/terminal command to unlock the bootloader if you don't want to go through htcdev, although htcdev is safer. But either way, once you bootloader unlock you can convert to gpe if you want or whatever you wanna do.
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I wonder if the phone was returned the point of sale, repackaged, and shipped to you? Perhaps the previous owner relocked the bootloader but left the phone S-OFF.
HolyAngel said:
You got lucky, I traded in my m8 for the nexus 6 and left it s-off for the next person that gets it ^^
If it says S-OFF in bootloader you are indeed S-OFF. There's an adb shell/terminal command to unlock the bootloader if you don't want to go through htcdev, although htcdev is safer. But either way, once you bootloader unlock you can convert to gpe if you want or whatever you wanna do.
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Yeah, I already unlocked bootloader, rooted a long time ago, but I'm not sure if this phone is brand new because it did come with the wrapping around it and not a scuf or scratch was found on the phone, however the sticker sealing the box was already cut, but I presume it's just my uncle checking that all the parts are there because he was the one who got the phone for me since he works at a pretty big shop where they sell phones . Either way, thanks, also great ROMs you're doing for the M8 :good:
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I wonder if the phone was returned the point of sale, repackaged, and shipped to you? Perhaps the previous owner relocked the bootloader but left the phone S-OFF.
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Bootloader wasn't relocked. If it was it would say **RELOCKED**, but mines said **LOCKED**.
Schwaggmeister said:
Bootloader wasn't relocked. If it was it would say **RELOCKED**, but mines said **LOCKED**.
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It is very easy to make it say "locked" instead of "relocked" since the device has S-OFF.
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Is there any way that this can happen to brand new phones?
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Yes, I've seen reports of this happening from time to time. It pretty rare, but it does happen.
just I want to know the unlock bootloader for all devices or only from HTC.com
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The Verizon version will not be able to be bootloader unlocked via HTCdev. That I can guarantee .
NICG said:
The Verizon version will not be able to be bootloader unlocked via HTCdev. That I can guarantee .
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the Verizon version will be unlockable by other means, like sunshine pretty fast after release most likely.
afuller42 said:
the Verizon version will be unlockable by other means, like sunshine pretty fast after release most likely.
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Very well could be, but not a definite. If you tell people that I would make that clear. Sunshine took a year for the M9 without using HTCdev or a Javacard. The same method might work on the HTC 10, things have changed it might but no one knows for sure yet. On top of that sunshine is s-0ff not just root and unlocked bootloader. All 3 things are different. All I can say is do your research.