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[Q] Return to stock

hi guys, can some please help me on this. im a bit stock. i am on tmobile network and have a DHD and i would like to return to stock. i have gone to the HTC Desire HD files but i dont know which one to use for me to return back to stock. can anyone tell me which one it is or post a link for me please as i dont want to flash the wrong one. I really need it as i need to send it back for repair. I really need it asap. Also i have 1 problem, my volume up button is stuck and when i turn my phone on, it vibrates 3 times and the orange light just flashes. is there a way to sort this out?

Since you want to send it to repair, ask them to repair the "stuck" volume button problem.
here is the link to go back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864054
Here is also a little shorter version from jkoljo's thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?t=857537):
"To go back to S-ON:
•Flash stock ROM (RUU)
•Temproot using Visionary
•Use my tool, do Stock CID and S-ON (enter brand CID if you had a branded device, see second post)
•Enjoy your factory-state phone"
And here is the RUU for Telus DHD http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932771 (Notice that I'm not sure if this is the recommended version for your phone but this is the only one I could find with a quick search)

@hedayat7
Thanks for exactly copying one of my posts but it isn't the Telus RUU that he needs
@Rawdi
Was your phone branded when you got it?

Hawks556 said:
@hedayat7
Thanks for exactly copying one of my posts but it isn't the Telus RUU that he needs
@Rawdi
Was your phone branded when you got it?
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i dont know if it was. how do i know if it was? please help me. i love my DHD too much for it to turn into a coaster. if i send it back to tmobile, even though i have rooted it, does it void the warranty?

What exactly did you do when you flashed a custom rom (assuming you did)?

@Hawks556 , hehe .. very lazy to type new post, found yours and copy paste.
btw, credit to Hawks556 . hehe

Hawks556 said:
What exactly did you do when you flashed a custom rom (assuming you did)?
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nothing, i have the leedroid rom and what i did was a restart as it was playing up a bit. when i did the restart, the 3 vibrates started and the orange light started to flash. i went in to CWM and did a key test and the volume up button did not respond so i take it is stuck. the way that i go into CWM was i plugged in my charger and the CWM comes up. i really dont know what i can do. also i dont want tmobile to know that i rooted my DHD as i heard it voids the warranty. any ideas on what i can do?

I meant how did you flash it? Did you have to use a goldcard etc? Did your phone have any t-mobile logos anywhere (eg bootanimation) when it was running stock rom? If not then you can do this:
- Flash stock ROM (RUU http://xdafil.es/DesireHD/RUU/RUU_A....140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe)
- Temproot using Visionary
- Use my tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537), do Stock CID and S-ON (enter brand CID, should be T-MOB005 for t-mobile uk)
Above steps were provided by jkoljo

Also messing with the software shouldn't really void the warranty because the defective volume button is solely a physical fault. There could ofcourse be a dispute of somekind, but in the end they have no right to refuse warranty service.
This could though become o problem if you have any software related warranty issues in the future.

[Q] Noob asking from cid, s-off, getting back to stock, etc.

Hello everybody!
I am relatively new One X owner and my previous handset was the famous HD2, so I used to be quite familiar with all the tweaks and mods. But now I have apparently stepped into a whole new world with a lot more complicated rules. There's talk about cid-numbers, nandroid backup, s-on/s-off, how you can't downgrade, etc. I tried to use the search, but I would like comprehensive answers to all my questions.
First thing first, what's a cid-number? I've read it has something to do with regions and operators, but how does this affect the device? Is this some kind hardware change or just software related? Is there even "international" versions available? Since I am ex HD2 user, the only difference between that device was the T-Mobile and international variat. Now it seems, there's a lot more different handsets available.
How does the cid-number affect the phone? Does these custom roms require specific cid-numbers? Can they be changed at all? What I've learned, my device cid-number is HTC__Y13. Does this mean something? And does it mean I can install for example the ARHD's newest Jelly Bean?
Talking about Jelly Bean, there has been talked about not being able to revert back to ICS? Why? Is actual physical changes made with the device, so it can't be downgraded? I never read people having such problems with the HD2. You could always revert back to older custom, or stock rom, if you wished to do so.
Then there's s-on and s-off. What does this mean exactly and how does it affect my device? I've already unlocked my bootloader, installed the custom boot and custom rom? Am I still somehow locked? I didn't even realize this has something meaningfull purpose.
I've probably already made my first mistake by not creating a nandroid backup. To clarify, I recently changed my stock rom to ARHD 9.7.0 and followed all the noobie instructions, but didn't realize that nandroid backup was somehow essential. Does this mean that I'm screwed somehow or is there a way to fully revert back to stock? Back in the HD2 era, you could have just downloaded the official stock rom and get your device back to stock. So what I'm asking, can I completely revert back to stock if I want for example send the device for repair?
And finally about the official updates. I've read a lot about not being able to update your rom, without reverting back to stock. Is this true and why would people want to do that? Doesn't the new custom roms include all the new improvements and upgrades? Why would people want to install custom rom, then revert back to stock to get the latest updates and then go back to custom? Maybe I've missed something?
Maybe these questions have been aswered a thousand times, in which case I would greatly appreciate, if somebody could point me to the right direction. If not, I would also appreciate, if you could answer any of my questions. It's not funny being in the dark.

Esaj2 said:
Hello everybody!
I am relatively new One X owner and my previous handset was the famous HD2, so I used to be quite familiar with all the tweaks and mods. But now I have apparently stepped into a whole new world with a lot more complicated rules. There's talk about cid-numbers, nandroid backup, s-on/s-off, how you can't downgrade, etc. I tried to use the search, but I would like comprehensive answers to all my questions.
First thing first, what's a cid-number? I've read it has something to do with regions and operators, but how does this affect the device? Is this some kind hardware change or just software related? Is there even "international" versions available? Since I am ex HD2 user, the only difference between that device was the T-Mobile and international variat. Now it seems, there's a lot more different handsets available.
How does the cid-number affect the phone? Does these custom roms require specific cid-numbers? Can they be changed at all? What I've learned, my device cid-number is HTC__Y13. Does this mean something? And does it mean I can install for example the ARHD's newest Jelly Bean?
Talking about Jelly Bean, there has been talked about not being able to revert back to ICS? Why? Is actual physical changes made with the device, so it can't be downgraded? I never read people having such problems with the HD2. You could always revert back to older custom, or stock rom, if you wished to do so.
Then there's s-on and s-off. What does this mean exactly and how does it affect my device? I've already unlocked my bootloader, installed the custom boot and custom rom? Am I still somehow locked? I didn't even realize this has something meaningfull purpose.
I've probably already made my first mistake by not creating a nandroid backup. To clarify, I recently changed my stock rom to ARHD 9.7.0 and followed all the noobie instructions, but didn't realize that nandroid backup was somehow essential. Does this mean that I'm screwed somehow or is there a way to fully revert back to stock? Back in the HD2 era, you could have just downloaded the official stock rom and get your device back to stock. So what I'm asking, can I completely revert back to stock if I want for example send the device for repair?
And finally about the official updates. I've read a lot about not being able to update your rom, without reverting back to stock. Is this true and why would people want to do that? Doesn't the new custom roms include all the new improvements and upgrades? Why would people want to install custom rom, then revert back to stock to get the latest updates and then go back to custom? Maybe I've missed something?
Maybe these questions have been aswered a thousand times, in which case I would greatly appreciate, if somebody could point me to the right direction. If not, I would also appreciate, if you could answer any of my questions. It's not funny being in the dark.
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hello, so: cid is region/operator number, for europe is htc__01 for example, and you can't change it while we don't have s-off, it's just a number that says to the ruu if it's the right version of phone or not, cid 11111111 is called supercid, and permit you to install every ruu in this world for this phone, but still we can't have it until we achieved s-off.
s-on/s-off are security on/security off, and except for few test devices, everybody have s-on when they buy a phone, and developers and hackers have to find a way to modify it to s-off, which will permit us to flash different hboot version, and downgrade, and change boot animations (the first one, not the second with animation, it's already moddable).
to return back to stock rom you have to relock your bootloader with fastboot command:
Code:
fastboot oem lock
and then download ruu version for your phone from here: http://htcruu.com/?dir=Endeavor
but you should download one with newer/the same hboot version and with your cidnum
to see hboot version just enter in bootloader and look to it there, for cidnum write this on cmd:
Code:
fastboot oem getvar cid
then enter in bootloader and launch .exe you downloaded and follow instructions, in some minutes you'll have completely stock rom! (but still no warranty, because you unlocked your bootloader, and when you relock it, it'll be written RELOCKED, instead of LOCKED when it's new).
flash jelly bean with new sense it's a risk now because it will flash also new hboot, that won't permit you to install previous rom or ruu, so you'll stay on jelly bean until somebody will do rom for this hboot! so i suggest you to wait some weeks and it will be official and more stable and better.
good luck in this new world

Thanks a lot! I guess there's different opinions about the warranty, because I have read that people have been able to fix their devices (under warranty), even after unlocked bootloader, if the device was returned to factory condition prior the repair. So warranty won't be voided completely and all the hardware issues are covered.
I've used app called "Cid Getter" and it gives me this line: [CID is:]: [HTC__Y13]. Is this my cid-number? If so, what is the right stock ruu for me?
HBOOT-1.12.0000 <------ I guess this is my hboot version?
In theory can the device be hacked , so the bootloader would say LOCKED, even if you unlocked it before? Or is this totally impossible?

Esaj2 said:
Thanks a lot! I guess there's different opinions about the warranty, because I have read that people have been able to fix their devices (under warranty), even after unlocked bootloader, if the device was returned to factory condition prior the repair. So warranty won't be voided completely and all the hardware issues are covered.
I've used app called "Cid Getter" and it gives me this line: [CID is:]: [HTC__Y13]. Is this my cid-number? If so, what is the right stock ruu for me?
HBOOT-1.12.0000 <------ I guess this is my hboot version?
In theory can the device be hacked , so the bootloader would say LOCKED, even if you unlocked it before? Or is this totally impossible?
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y13 i think that it's europe, try to download normal europe no brand version, if you'll have problems try another one,
yes, 1.12.0000 is your hboot version, and it's not the newest so you can download the last ruu without problems
no it can't, but even if it would be possible, it'll be pointless because you gave a number to htc, and they know your imei adress, so even with LOCKED, they'll know... in some countries they don't make problem about, if it's a hardware fault, in others you'll have problem, i don't know just ask htc in your country if you'll need it

Yes I have the European version, since I live in Finland and it is part of Europe and the European Union. Here we don't have branded phones so I guess that doesn't cause any problems. Also the phone was not sim-locked. Could you post me a link to a correct RUU? Does the radio version matter somehow?
What comes to the warranty, I probably will have to see that if it comes to it. Hopefully there's no reason to send the device for repair.
And if I understood correctly, I shouldn't upgrade to ARHD Jelly Bean, because it's going to cause some troubles, if I want to revert back to stock?

Esaj2 said:
Yes I have the European version, since I live in Finland and it is part of Europe and the European Union. Here we don't have branded phones so I guess that doesn't cause any problems. Also the phone was not sim-locked. Could you post me a link to a correct RUU? Does the radio version matter somehow?
What comes to the warranty, I probably will have to see that if it comes to it. Hopefully there's no reason to send the device for repair.
And if I understood correctly, I shouldn't upgrade to ARHD Jelly Bean, because it's going to cause some troubles, if I want to revert back to stock?
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what radio do you have? i don't know what's the difference, but i think there is a difference between mid-europa and north europa, so maybe there is something different.
about arhd jb you'll NOT BE ABLE to revert back to ics, so no ruu, neither other rom from xda, because they are done for other hboot as i know, so if you'll install it, you'll have it until someone will do something for this hboot

The radio version is 2.1204.135.20. I'm not sure, but I don't think there being a difference between Northern-European and Middle-European devices, at least what comes to the radio version.
So I guess I should stick with the current ICS ARHD 9.7.0 build for now... Thank you for your great help! :good:

http://htcruu.com/Endeavor/RUU_ENDE...Radio_2.1204.127.19_release_271851_signed.exe
this seems to be similar radio, try with it

Hi,
Ive tried without success to get the CID of my phone with get cid app from store or using emulator and the getprop ro.cid command.
Nothing...
What can I do for get it? :S

Esaj2 said:
The radio version is 2.1204.135.20. I'm not sure, but I don't think there being a difference between Northern-European and Middle-European devices, at least what comes to the radio version.
So I guess I should stick with the current ICS ARHD 9.7.0 build for now... Thank you for your great help! :good:
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CID isn't the only way to find out the RUU for your phone. If you'd done the right thing and checked your software build before rooting to make sure there is an RUU for your phone then you'd know which RUU is for you. For example:
If you were running 1.29.401.11 then RUU_ENDEAVOR_U_ICS_40_HTC_Europe_1.29.401.11_Radio_1.1204.105.14_release_260491_signed.exe would be the one for you

Esaj2 said:
if I want to revert back to stock?
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Have a look here bro http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859714
See you
Franky

New user, few questions

Hi guys,
I switched back from Samsung to HTC. I was on the Galaxy Note and now I'm using HTC One X. I have few questions cause things are very different on the HTC side when it comes to ROMs, flashing and rooting.
First thing, how do you check for what region is your One X? I kind of figured out that is from Asia but I want to be sure if I decide (and I will ) to flash custom ROMs so I can get back to stock at any time. On Samsung it's easy to check out which ROM.
If my ROM is Asian, can I flash open stock ROM from Europe?
When it comes to flashing, I'm cool with that, there are pretty good tutorials and it's cool. My bootlocker is unlocked, I've checked that (I'm not the first owner) but the phone isn't rooted. Is there a way that I could bring the phone back to the original state? Everything locked and stock? On Samsung, all you need to do is flash a stock ROM through ODIN and that's it.
Sorry if these are too noobish questions. I've tried searching but couldn't get all of the information and I'm curious about these things. Just trying to get back on track with HTC stuff (I used to own HTC Wildfire but I didn't bother with flashing anything).
Cheers!

tribalkg said:
Hi guys,
I switched back from Samsung to HTC. I was on the Galaxy Note and now I'm using HTC One X. I have few questions cause things are very different on the HTC side when it comes to ROMs, flashing and rooting.
First thing, how do you check for what region is your One X? I kind of figured out that is from Asia but I want to be sure if I decide (and I will ) to flash custom ROMs so I can get back to stock at any time. On Samsung it's easy to check out which ROM.
If my ROM is Asian, can I flash open stock ROM from Europe?
When it comes to flashing, I'm cool with that, there are pretty good tutorials and it's cool. My bootlocker is unlocked, I've checked that (I'm not the first owner) but the phone isn't rooted. Is there a way that I could bring the phone back to the original state? Everything locked and stock? On Samsung, all you need to do is flash a stock ROM through ODIN and that's it.
Sorry if these are too noobish questions. I've tried searching but couldn't get all of the information and I'm curious about these things. Just trying to get back on track with HTC stuff (I used to own HTC Wildfire but I didn't bother with flashing anything).
Cheers!
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1- to get everything stock again you have to check you CID first typing:
Code:
fastboot getvar cid
the code that you'll get have to be equal to the of the RUU, and then you have to run that RUU to get everything stock and to relock your bootloader you have simply to type in command pompt:
Code:
fastboot oem lock

know the RUU version of the phone.

ruu flasher is equivalent to odin
you can't lock the bootloader to *locked* but to *re-locked*
to check for the region: see the firmware version : x.xx.yyy.xxx there are lists showing which "yyy" correspond to which region,
or by simply using "cid getter" from market and see your cid in the lists

[Q] Going back to 100% stock

I'm currently running a custom ROM/Recovery. How would I go back to 100% evcerything stock?

kinglime said:
I'm currently running a custom ROM/Recovery. How would I go back to 100% evcerything stock?
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try the t-mobile htc one forum?

nrfitchett4 said:
try the t-mobile htc one forum?
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I'm on Verizon...

kinglime said:
I'm on Verizon...
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(your avatar says t-mobile, throws us off.)
since you did you unlocking through htc DEV unlock (one can only assume anyway) you technically can't go back to full 100% stock.
your boot loader will always say unlocked or relocked.
S-OFF *may* be able to set you back to 100% stock but I forgot.
I would, ADB fastboot oem lock
this will change it back to "relocked" rather than "unlocked"
Verizon will still know you did HTC DEV unlock and technically can deny your warranty as you broke it by doing the HTC DEV unlock.
Personally though, I've sent back MANY HTC DEV unlocked phones to Verizon without re-repercussions.
I've been on Samsung for the past year though, so things may have changed, take what I say with a grain of salt.
hope this helps some.

Sorry! I forgot to change it from T-Mobile to Verizon when I recently switched. Anyways yes I was able to unlock via htcdev. Right now I'm running a custom rom and CWM custom recovery. I don't need to take my phone in or anything like that, I just want to return back to stock. Basically I'd like to go back to the software/recovery/everything that was running on the phone out of the box. How would I do this? Is there a link to the default recovery/rom, is that all there is to it?

kinglime said:
Sorry! I forgot to change it from T-Mobile to Verizon when I recently switched. Anyways yes I was able to unlock via htcdev. Right now I'm running a custom rom and CWM custom recovery. I don't need to take my phone in or anything like that, I just want to return back to stock. Basically I'd like to go back to the software/recovery/everything that was running on the phone out of the box. How would I do this? Is there a link to the default recovery/rom, is that all there is to it?
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Until/IF, we get an RUU.. (don't hold your breathe for one)
you can't.
Sorry.
You could try and exchange it with another member who is stock and wants htc dev unlock?
AFAIK there is no stock recovery.img anywhere, not 100% though as I haven't searched.
Stock ROM you should have made a nandroid, if u didnt u can flash my stock deodexed ROM.

So with the release of the new S Off exploit is there any updated info to a full return to stock for warranty exchange that would leave you with a locked flag?
Sorry just found info in the General section!

Here is the Verizon HTC One RUU posted in the Android Development section - [RUU] Decrypted VZW RUU
The OP of the RUU mentions this is the decrytped version, and you need to use a tool called ruuveal to re-encrypt the RUU

[Q] How can i do this without losing warranty?

Hi all,
in the next days i will get my HTC M8 (i'm moving from an iPhone 5s but i had the M7 and the One Mini too, both with boot loader unlocked and custom rom)
Since this will be my first HTC device "new" from store, i will get the warranty of 24 months and so i will try to preserve it.
What i want to do with it is:
-Root It
-Install ViperONE Rom (so a custom rom)
-Stop.
But how can i do this without losing warranty? Or rather, i want to do these things but with the possibility to bring the smartphone to 100% stock and of course removing the text line like "unlocked, tampered" etc. to preserve the warranty if i will need it (of course i hope i never need warranty).
How can i do this? Is ok also if you say me only what i have to do without tell all the steps, i will search by myself the guides.
(Sorry for my english but i'm italian)

androiduserfan2 said:
Hi all,
in the next days i will get my HTC M8 (i'm moving from an iPhone 5s but i had the M7 and the One Mini too, both with boot loader unlocked and custom rom)
Since this will be my first HTC device "new" from store, i will get the warranty of 24 months and so i will try to preserve it.
What i want to do with it is:
-Root It
-Install ViperONE Rom (so a custom rom)
-Stop.
But how can i do this without losing warranty? Or rather, i want to do these things but with the possibility to bring the smartphone to 100% stock and of course removing the text line like "unlocked, tampered" etc. to preserve the warranty if i will need it (of course i hope i never need warranty).
How can i do this? Is ok also if you say me only what i have to do without tell all the steps, i will search by myself the guides.
(Sorry for my english but i'm italian)
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Don't know about warranty T&Cs where you're at... But if you have S-OFF you can go back to stock as much as possible so that they don't know the difference.
You can try Firewater S-OFF but seeing as you're buying a new device it'll probably have the newest 4.4.3 on it which means that Firewater S-OFF won't work. Still worth it to give it a try if you want to though.
Better option, though it costs money, is to use Sunshine S-OFF, it'll both unlock the bootloader and give S-OFF, it costs $25 though.
You can then root, flash custom ROMs etc no problem. You can even flash custom ROMs if you're still S-ON, though you won't be able to remove the flags like "Tampered, unlocked/relocked" if you're S-OFF. Which is why I'd suggest getting S-OFF.
If you have it and you need warranty you can follow the guides provided on these forums to go back to 100% stock. With S-OFF you can remove the red text that you might get on start up screen. You can remove the tampered flag in bootloader. You can make the device say "Locked" instead of "Relocked" if you were to lock bootloader again. You can take it back to a state that it'll look(At least on the surface) as if it's 100% the way you bought it. Which should be more than good enough for warranty purposes.
So if that's the direction you're looking in i.e To customize and still make it look like you never tampered with device in the event of warranty, you'll definitely need S-OFF for your device.
Going by your post, I'm sure you'll search for these things then?
Sunshine S-OFF
How to return device to stock - It'll be the same to return to stock, just use correct nandroids for your device.
How to remove red text from Hboot
How to reset Tampered flag
How to reset relocked flag
All of the "How to" threads you can find in the general section of the HTC One M8 forum. The Sunshine S-OFF thread you'll find in the "Paid Apps" forums on the main screen of xda forums or you can just search for it on google like "Sunshine S-OFF xda" it'll give you a link to it surely, the Author of the post is Jcase.
Edit: I added the links to the How to's and Sunshine S-OFF.

Wow your reply is simply amazing, thank you so much!
Just one little questions: if Firewater will work, how can i unlock boot loader without htcdev procedure?
Thanks again, is really great that XDA community has users like you!
(PS: don't know if this will change something but i'll have an M8 with Vodafone Brand (but sim unlocked) too!)

androiduserfan2 said:
Wow your reply is simply amazing, thank you so much!
Just one little questions: if Firewater will work, how can i unlock boot loader without htcdev procedure?
Thanks again, is really great that XDA community has users like you!
(PS: don't know if this will change something but i'll have an M8 with Vodafone Brand (but sim unlocked) too!)
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In the last link I provided "reset relocked flag" the actual title of the thread is [how to] lock/unlock your bootloader without htcdev(s-off required) .
On your PS. Just make sure you make nandroid back up of your device before flashing custom ROMs. I'm not sure if your Vodafone backup is in the collection thread or not. Of course you'll also then have to make a backup of your recovery before flashing a custom one.
You can just boot the custom recovery of your choice - fastboot boot name_of_custom_recovery.img - that'll boot in so that you can make a backup of the stock recovery before you flash it. That'll only work with Philz I think... TWRP didn't boot for me with the newest 4.4.3 software and it doesn't make a backup of the stock recovery anyways. Philz can do that though, or you can follow the instructions I gave in this post - Of course you'll also need to run the cat /proc/emmc command to just make sure on which block number your recovery partition is. You'll need root for that of course. You can flash supersu to gain root while booting a custom recovery so you don't have to flash one.
Though it'll also make things easier if you do decide to go with Sunshine because I'm sure they have a method in the thread to have root for your device also.
So that's important, getting a backup of your device BEFORE you do anything, in the event you want to go back and we don't have a backup for your device it might be a problem if you didn't make one yourself either :good:

Ok thanks for all the infos!
At this point, i think that Sunshine will be the method that i will use.
So now i have just to wait the shipping of my M8 and as soon as i get it i will FIRSTLY backup and after i will start modding! If i'll have problems i will ask to you/the community again. Thank you!

androiduserfan2 said:
Ok thanks for all the infos!
At this point, i think that Sunshine will be the method that i will use.
So now i have just to wait the shipping of my M8 and as soon as i get it i will FIRSTLY backup and after i will start modding! If i'll have problems i will ask to you/the community again. Thank you!
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No problem.
Perhaps if you made a backup you can upload it and share the link in the COLLECTION of Stock backup's thread. That'll help even more people with similar device to your own :good:

Sure i will! I always helped (in others italian forums) developers with backup, test etc: i love modding and help developers!
So i'll just backup through TWRP right? Because i always used Clockworkmod

androiduserfan2 said:
Sure i will! I always helped (in others italian forums) developers with backup, test etc: i love modding and help developers!
So i'll just backup through TWRP right? Because i always used Clockworkmod
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Yes you can backup through TWRP but like I mentioned, it didn't do backup of the recovery partition. So you'll probably have to use the method I linked to in order to make backup of stock recovery.
TWRP gave me some problems lately...not booting like it should, it didn't make backup of stock recovery. I like TWRP and prefer it but Philz definitely did the better job for backups. Could probably boot that up and make a backup of everything too if you prefer. Doesn't really make a difference, I mean, if(BIG IFFF) something happens to your device you could always just flash Philz back and restore the backup. It's easy enough so...

So will be better Philz

I used Sunshine right of the bat, so I could return to stock and keep my warranty. A good plan. ?

I will use it too
2 days and i will finally have my HTC M8!!!
I ordered it 7 days ago but the store had misspelled my city -.-
I will verify that he work at 100% (wifi, signal, display etc) and after i will start modding it

Guys yesterday the M8 has arrived!
After i tried all the basic functions (call, wifi etc) i started with sunshine!
After i upgraded the firmware, flashed philz, backuped ROM and installed ViperROM. Now i'm very satisfied of my new smartphone! Thank you all!