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[Q] G Pad is laggy?

Well my G Pad is always lagging when I unlock the device, also when I move around icons in the homescreen the lagg is severe, it's like 5 fps or close to. It's weird because the lagg is always there when i do one of these things I mentioned. Also some widgets like for the calendar-widget is laggy too. Annons else having this? Is there something I could do to remove these laggs?

Mecmatt said:
Well my G Pad is always lagging when I unlock the device, also when I move around icons in the homescreen the lagg is severe, it's like 5 fps or close to. It's weird because the lagg is always there when i do one of these things I mentioned. Also some widgets like for the calendar-widget is laggy too. Annons else having this? Is there something I could do to remove these laggs?
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I do not have any lag like you describe sounds like you may have a bad device?

Take a video of it. Easier to see than to read and try to imagine.

Hmm, I don't think it's a bad device because I have had another one that have been replaced. It had bad sound through the speakers. The thing is that the previous G Pad had the same lag. I have the black model but that should not be the problem I think. I will try to post a video shortly.

mustbepbs said:
Take a video of it. Easier to see than to read and try to imagine.
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I've made two quick videos, sorry for the bad filming and such. Hope you don't get seasick
Homescreen lag:
http://youtu.be/Cmotf9dr4bs
Lockscreen lag:
http://youtu.be/-OECYvABcpg

The homescreen lag is more noticeable than the lockscreen. Indeed I checked mine as soon as I watched your vids and saw the difference.
Can something be done by the retailer? I guess available mem. is always enough, right? In PC terms that would seem like hardware lacking in power(/performance).

Looks like LG's launcher software is not very efficient. Fortunately, I don't spend a lot of time rearranging icons. I would guess that using a different launcher might fix the homescreen problem.

No lag here

woody1 said:
Looks like LG's launcher software is not very efficient. Fortunately, I don't spend a lot of time rearranging icons. I would guess that using a different launcher might fix the homescreen problem.
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The homescreen lag is something I can live with but it's not good for the uses experience as whole. But, the lockscreen is very anoying! I find the lockscreen lag very annoying, in approximately 90% of cases it is there. Can this be fixed with root some how? Don't get me wrong here, i do love this tablet but the lockscreen lag... I will just turn off the lockscreen but I just don't get it, the G Pad has really good specs so this should in theory never happend right?

My G Pad doesn't lag like yours.
You said that both of your units had the same problem, that's weird.
Haven't you installed an app on both devices that could interfere with the launcher and produce that lag because that's not the regular behaviour of the G Pad.

neodraig said:
My G Pad doesn't lag like yours.
You said that both of your units had the same problem, that's weird.
Haven't you installed an app on both devices that could interfere with the launcher and produce that lag because that's not the regular behaviour of the G Pad.
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My thoughts exactly. Was it like this out of the box?

Well I have some news on this issue. First of all the lag is not there out of the box, I did a factory restore. When I use the LG backup service app to restore my G Pad the state before the factory reset, the lag was once again there. As you can see in my videos I have the calendar-widget placed on my homescreen. If I remove that widget the homescreen lag disappear completely, and the lockscreen lag is drastically decreased and is barely noticeable. So there you have it! For me the lag was caused by the calendar-widget!

Good news ! I advise you to use an alternative launcher anyway (Nova is great)

Issues with Note 4

I've had my note 4 for a couple weeks now, and I have to say that the phone is not as powerful as I expected. Whenever I run a resource heavy app, the phone experiences severe lag after exiting the app. For instance, the Caustic app, which is a music mixing app, runs descent on my note 4 but after exiting the app the launcher becomes very stuttery and laggy. I loaded the phone up with Nova launcher prime, and it does work better, yet still lags. I have clean master installed, and I've gotton notifications from it a couple times telling me the RAM is above 80% and the CPU is hot.. I've always been under the impression that clearing processes from RAM on Android is a no no, but as a last ditch effort, I went ahead and did it anyway. Over all, I'm not happy with the phone performance. My 2013 nexus 7 performes better, and this is supposed to be a beefier device as far as hardware is concerned.. Should I take the phone back to AT&T?
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What other apps have you seen this with?
As I have not used caustic I cannot say if it does the same.
Is that app caustic 3?

icexshinigami said:
What other apps have you seen this with?
As I have not used caustic I cannot say if it does the same.
Is that app caustic 3?
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Yes, the app that's causing me the lag is caustic 3. The only other app that had caused the same stutter is Fit Brains Trainer by roseta stone.. Are you having problems too?
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norcal61 said:
Yes, the app that's causing me the lag is caustic 3. The only other app that had caused the same stutter is Fit Brains Trainer by roseta stone.. Are you having problems too?
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So I tried caustic not sure how long but it does lag the launcher after exiting. (nova launcher)
Also after reboot every thing is running smoothly again and started caustic again and it does not lag after exiting ~5mins of running (maybe I didn't leave it running as long or what not I'm not sure but that's all I can observe so far)
Hope that helps you a bit.

This is exactly why we need the ability to flash custom roms on Samsung devices. The out-of-the-box experience sucks. The phone performs night and day on a custom rom.

icexshinigami said:
So I tried caustic not sure how long but it does lag the launcher after exiting. (nova launcher)
Also after reboot every thing is running smoothly again and started caustic again and it does not lag after exiting ~5mins of running (maybe I didn't leave it running as long or what not I'm not sure but that's all I can observe so far)
Hope that helps you a bit.
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Thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it. My girlfriend has an AT&T Note 4 as well. I loaded hers up with the caustic app, and had the same laggy results. Yea, sometimes after exiting the app, the lag is so bad I have to reboot, other times a simple screen lock and unlock takes care of it, and other times there is no lag at all. When I was using the touch wiz launcher it caused lag everytime.. Nova launcher is working much better, but still not satisfactory..IMO, if I have what is considered to be one of, if not the most powerful smartphone currently, I shouldn't be dealing with this at all.. I think after this phone I'll stick with nexus devices.. Even though I said the same thing after my Galaxy S4, and somehow got sucked into the hype on this phone..
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norcal61 said:
Thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it. My girlfriend has an AT&T Note 4 as well. I loaded hers up with the caustic app, and had the same laggy results. Yea, sometimes after exiting the app, the lag is so bad I have to reboot, other times a simple screen lock and unlock takes care of it, and other times there is no lag at all. When I was using the touch wiz launcher it caused lag everytime.. Nova launcher is working much better, but still not satisfactory..IMO, if I have what is considered to be one of, if not the most powerful smartphone currently, I shouldn't be dealing with this at all.. I think after this phone I'll stick with nexus devices.. Even though I said the same thing after my Galaxy S4, and somehow got sucked into the hype on this phone..
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I think it's probably just Samsung bloatware interfering with phone function.
Personally I don't think it is a deal breaker just keep an eye out for those apps it may not be 100% compatible with our phones.

You may want to report the issue to the developer of Caustic. It could just be a software glitch isolated to this phone.
I personally haven't had the chance to see this phone lag at all and I definitely use it very heavily.

silentecho13 said:
You may want to report the issue to the developer of Caustic. It could just be a software glitch isolated to this phone.
I personally haven't had the chance to see this phone lag at all and I definitely use it very heavily.
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Do you use a cleaner app? I use clean master, and about once or twice a day I get a notification from clean master telling me the phone is preforming poorly, and ram is over %80. This usually occurs when I have a few apps open, and I usually do experience minor lag leading up to this. I allow clean master to wipe the ram, then reboot the phone and all is well for a while. This is very discouraging..
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While a bit counterintuitive to what we have been seeing on windows etc.
This phone is designed to use all of its ram.
It should not lag while doing it and apps that causes it to lag is probably dev error so make note of those apps and keep an eye out for it.
Ram is not being used unnecessarily android purposely stores cached in ram to allow it to load faster.

It is not the app's fault. I made a thread about this same exact behavior a couple weeks ago but not a single person responded. Jittery, laggy performance after exiting a game or other graphics intensive app. Only thing that would get rid of it was a reboot.
I got a PM from Samsung Support about it though which surprised me. I think they may be aware of some type of issue.
It happened for me after two different apps closing so it's not your app. And it doesn't happen after every closing either. The jittery behavior is not limited to the launcher either. Next time it happens open another app and scroll, like the browser. It was terribly choppy.
The good news is Samsung reached out to me which is always a positive sign for fixes.

Techweed said:
It is not the app's fault. I made a thread about this same exact behavior a couple weeks ago but not a single person responded. Jittery, laggy performance after exiting a game or other graphics intensive app. Only thing that would get rid of it was a reboot.
I got a PM from Samsung Support about it though which surprised me. I think they may be aware of some type of issue.
It happened for me after two different apps closing so it's not your app. And it doesn't happen after every closing either. The jittery behavior is not limited to the launcher either. Next time it happens open another app and scroll, like the browser. It was terribly choppy.
The good news is Samsung reached out to me which is always a positive sign for fixes.
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Yea, definitely not the apps fault. I've confirmed this by installing the same app on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy S4; the app runs fine on those two devices without any lag as a result. It may be compatability issues with the newer qualcom chip, or possibly all of the bloatware on the phone weighing things down. These ideas are all speculation on my part. It's good to hear that Samsung is aware of the issue. Please keep us posted on anything new in regards to the issue. Just an FYI, I've replaced Nova Launcher with the Google now launcher, and for the last 3 days the phone has been running remarkably smoother. Hopefully lollipop will fix these issues.. Root would definitely be nice.

norcal61 said:
Yea, definitely not the apps fault. I've confirmed this by installing the same app on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy S4; the app runs fine on those two devices without any lag as a result. It may be compatability issues with the newer qualcom chip, or possibly all of the bloatware on the phone weighing things down. These ideas are all speculation on my part. It's good to hear that Samsung is aware of the issue. Please keep us posted on anything new in regards to the issue. Just an FYI, I've replaced Nova Launcher with the Google now launcher, and for the last 3 days the phone has been running remarkably smoother. Hopefully lollipop will fix these issues.. Root would definitely be nice.
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If I get any updates I'll make sure to inform you all. I'm using Nova and it seems pretty fast. Were you having issues with it that made you switch to Google? Or is Google Launcher just that much better?

Techweed said:
If I get any updates I'll make sure to inform you all. I'm using Nova and it seems pretty fast. Were you having issues with it that made you switch to Google? Or is Google Launcher just that much better?
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I was having some minor issues with Nova Launcher. I was getting random crashes, where Nova itself was actually crashing, which was a first for me. I was also getting some lag while scrolling, opening and closing apps. When I use Nova Launcher, I tweak allot of the settings, so that may have had something to do with it, but I've used Nova Launcher for the last year and a half on my Galaxy S4 w/o any problems.. Google now launcher doesn't have any options for customization of any kind, but it has been very smooth and effective.
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What Launcher?

Just wondering what launcher everyone is using. I like how smooth the stock Pixel launcher is on it but drives me nuts that I cant mess with grid size or have pull down notification panel from anywhere like on Nova. When I use Nova it doesnt seem as smooth to me almost like it stutters when I go to Google Now or opening and closing apps. Never has done it before on any other phone besides this one. Just wondering what everyone is using and if there are other options that have that pull down option. I know i can use the fingerprint scanner to pull down on Pixel but it doesnt feel natural to me after so many years with Nova.

Nova prime had been my launcher for the last 5 phones!!

CyberpodS2 said:
Nova prime had been my launcher for the last 5 phones!!
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Yeah I've had it I dunno how many years and that's what is weird why it stutters on this one of all the phones I've had.

Also been using Nova Prime for a long time on numerous device's!

Nova prime since first Nexus phone, every year new one, now pixel 2 xl, never failed on me.

Another loyal Nova user here. The amount of custom features is worth it
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Been using Google now launcher for a while with xgels module (RIP) then switched to Nova prime until I got my phone and now rocking DU rom with GNL hider module and it's working flawlessly.

Nova prime FTW!

Always, Nova Prime

Apex Launcher has all the same features as Nova, but I don't think it has the Google feed integrated.
The Microsoft Launcher has a fresh take that is also visually appealing.
And finally, Evie Launcher is worth checking out. It's not as feature packed but it's growing every week.

CyberpodS2 said:
Nova prime had been my launcher for the last 5 phones!!
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+1111111 best money you'll spend!
Gilley said:
Yeah I've had it I dunno how many years and that's what is weird why it stutters on this one of all the phones I've had.
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I think this is my 4th device with Nova Prime and of all the issues on all those devices, Nova was never, ever a problem.
Leads me to think might be something else, since you're the first user I've heard on this device having a problem with Nova, and with so many people using it, if there were an issue with Nova itself, surely more people would have it as well.
You running Xposed or something that could be messing with it?

Az Biker said:
+1111111 best money you'll spend!
I think this is my 4th device with Nova Prime and of all the issues on all those devices, Nova was never, ever a problem.
Leads me to think might be something else, since you're the first user I've heard on this device having a problem with Nova, and with so many people using it, if there were an issue with Nova itself, surely more people would have it as well.
You running Xposed or something that could be messing with it?
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Nope I am completely stock not rooted. I had the one options in developer turned to .5 for animations and turned it back and didn't see any real change. And by stutter I don't mean like horrible can't stand it. It's just like a tiny tiny hiccup of movement. I love the phone and it's not big deal to me because I like Nova that much just was curious to see if anyone else had the problem and or use another launcher that I could try out and see. I tried lawnchair and it seems smooth when it doesn't crash on me. That is more annoying then the small stutter on Nova.

My 5th device with Nova Prime! ?

Nova Prime since my S4 days ????

Google pixel launcher.
Works fine.
What will nova launcher do better?

luigidk said:
Google pixel launcher.
Works fine.
What will nova launcher do better?
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Read my post. I said what I liked about Nova over the stock one.

Gilley said:
Nope I am completely stock not rooted. I had the one options in developer turned to .5 for animations and turned it back and didn't see any real change. And by stutter I don't mean like horrible can't stand it. It's just like a tiny tiny hiccup of movement. I love the phone and it's not big deal to me because I like Nova that much just was curious to see if anyone else had the problem and or use another launcher that I could try out and see. I tried lawnchair and it seems smooth when it doesn't crash on me. That is more annoying then the small stutter on Nova.
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Did you give lawnchair access to storage? It crashed pretty frequently on me too until i did this.:good:

mademan420 said:
Did you give lawnchair access to storage? It crashed pretty frequently on me too until i did this.:good:
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Yea it has access to everything. I emailed the developer yesterday but haven't heard back

I've been using Flick Launcher Pro for the past week and although it's in development, it shows a ton of upside. Nova is a more polished as it stands right now but Flick will get better with time. Flick gives you all the goodness of stock plus a lot of extra customizations.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.universallauncher.flicklauncherpro

SFG said:
I've been using Flick Launcher Pro for the past week and although it's in development, it shows a ton of upside. Nova is a more polished as it stands right now but Flick will get better with time. Flick gives you all the goodness of stock plus a lot of extra customizations.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.universallauncher.flicklauncherpro
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I love trying new launchers that rethink how we should interact with our phones. Nova is great, but it's just more if the same old launcher UI that hasn't evolved much since the early days of Android. Thanks for the non-Nova suggestion!

Dropped frames or lag?

Anyone notice choppy transitions when going back home? I find the transitions to be super choppy and it looks like dropped frames or could it be lag. I was able to fix the issue by reducing all animations to.0.5 but its not actually a fix. I'm very surprised that this is happening on this phone. Never had this issue on the s10+.
Anyone else experiencing this?

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Anyone notice choppy transitions when going back home? I find the transitions to be super choppy and it looks like dropped frames or could it be lag. I was able to fix the issue by reducing all animations to.0.5 but its not actually a fix. I'm very surprised that this is happening on this phone. Never had this issue on the s10+.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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Wow! I'm the only one experiencing this? That must mean I have a faulty phone. Weird thing is that I started using Nova launcher instead of the stock one and the issue is gone. So the issue must be with the launcher rather than the phone itself.
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mrnovanova said:
Wow! I'm the only one experiencing this? That must mean I have a faulty phone. Weird thing is that I started using Nova launcher instead of the stock one and the issue is gone. So the issue must be with the launcher rather than the phone itself.
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Couldn't tell ya because Nova Launcher is app #1 I install! Haha.

I've noticed similar issues as well. Animations when scrolling feels intermittently choppy compared to my Pixel 3 XL. Also happens when the header drops down/hides in Samsung apps such as settings or messages.

I posted about this a few days ago. Ruching the animation settings has had a huge effect for me, it's much better than it was
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kinfam said:
I've noticed similar issues as well. Animations when scrolling feels intermittently choppy compared to my Pixel 3 XL. Also happens when the header drops down/hides in Samsung apps such as settings or messages.
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I don't think Samsung will ever be able to compete with Google in smoothness (especially now that the Pixel is going to 90Hz too!). Sammy can put 100GB of RAM and max out CPU capabilities and still get some stutter or lag. It's very minimal since the 9th generation, but some people (like me) still notice it. Even with animations off/minimal, it's there. But reducing animations and switching to Nova launcher significantly reduces the amount I see it.

Lags!

Hi
Since some time (the last two ota maybe) I have terrible lags!
Lags in scrolling, touch, and gestures, so everything is a pain, like, writing, gaming, facebook... [emoji24]
Llike one time every two seconds something takes all CPU...
Till before they happen all was very smooth and had quite the same apps of now
I tried changing screen refresh but is not that.
Someone experiences something like this?
Any advice?
Thanks.
P.S. it was so difficult also type this...[emoji35]

Well people, forget it.
Looking at logs I discovered that my custom launcher continuously failed to write a certain SQL stuff.
Reinstalling it solved the problem... :angel:

What launcher were you using?

dRumMzZ said:
What launcher were you using?
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I use "smart launcher" since many years.
It got unexpectedly mad ?!

Nova launcher seems to work just fine for me

dRumMzZ said:
Nova launcher seems to work just fine for me
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Ah, also smart launcher.
It was a momentary problem.