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Why install/flash custom ROM?

I had HTC HD2 and I installed Android on it, but now I have HTC DHD and android is already build in and it runs grate.
Why install/flash custom ROM?
What are pros and coins?

To name some advantages;
Full control over the phone (root)
Remove bloatware (Default apps the come shipped with the phone / carrier applications)
Themes
Overclocking / Underclocking
Get updates before your region (2.3)
Many more advantages...
Only con i can think of is you have to revert anything if you were to send it in for repairs etc.

Cons..... if you don't read and follow the directions correctly, you could brick your device.
Pros...... overclocking, backup/restore, better battery life, more customisation, access to more apps, faster updates to new android versions, debranding......
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DPxD3v said:
Only con i can think of is you have to revert anything if you were to send it in for repairs etc.
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And seems like that isn't really the case anymore. Someone (mike19xx from the forums) sent in their DHD with custom rom for repair and got it back without any problems.

Thanks for replays!
Please sugest me some good ROM. And where better save apps on SD or phone memory.
And also please recommend some apps for productivity.
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Non-sense, cyanogenmod7 all the way.
Sense, leedroid 2.2.2
Search the themes and apps threads for other stuff like add-ons.
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Android Revolution HD 3.2 or 4 (If you want gingerbread)
Although im thinking about CM7 unsure yet

It depends on your needs. On the rom threads (or even sites) you can usually find the features and you should consider yourself to think about if it's senseful for you. If you are just a "normal user" who probably doesn't need things like root access or overclocking and extra possibilities like ftp, ssh, vnc, etc. servers with full access it may not be so convincing for you. Usually you get a good speed improvement from several roms and as said newer version without branding. But also bugs you won't have in stock roms (but maybe other bugs from stock remain then ) as developing such things is never "perfect".
An important fact could be that you can only backup anything properly with root access afaik. But this should also be possible with altered stock roms.
Generally you get yourself some freedom I would say.
For the roms: You should do some nandroid backups using clockwork recovery and then simply switch by backing up, installing/restoring and then compare what you like more.

Because I can

Hell yeah
ghostofcain said:
Because I can
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Hell yeah...because we can

ghostofcain said:
Because I can
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+1
Although, if you are very happy with how your phone behaves, you might want to think again if you really want to flash a custom rom.
Pros are as mentioned in above posts. Cons: you might brick your phone.
In any case, if you root / s-off your phone, you will have a device that is enabled for the future. If HTC decides not to update your device to the latest android version, you will be able to do so yourself if a dev has cooked it to be used with DHD.
You never know if HTC will be able to fix all exploits in future OTA updates(unlikely, but still).

SPhcT said:
Thanks for replays!
Please sugest me some good ROM. And where better save apps on SD or phone memory.
And also please recommend some apps for productivity.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Android Revolution 3.2 or 4.X Beta
CM7 RC2

I believe the chances of bricking your phone is quite narrow.
I almost bricked my phone, by trying to install "FULL WIPE" via ROM Manager ( ROM manager boots into CWM and runs the ZIP and reboots it ) .
For those who dont know, FULL WIPE zip will clear out all traces of ROM on your system. Essentially, I or rather ROM Manager rebooted my phone without having any ROM installed.
But thankfully a simple battery pull was all that was needed to fix it. I was able to get back to the CWM, from where I installed the new ROM, and everything was working as "desired"

If you're happy with your current stockrom and don't mastrubate on quadrant scores to impress your co-workers or friends on birthday party......stay on stock, my 2 cents
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marleyb said:
If you're happy with your current stockrom and don't mastrubate on quadrant scores to impress your co-workers or friends on birthday party......stay on stock, my 2 cents
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Haha, that's exaggerating it a bit mate!
Not everyone who uses custom ROMs are concerned with superficial benchmark scores! Most will agree they don't relate to real life performance.
The reason I use custom ROMs are thus:
1/ Increased stability
2/ Bug fixes
3/ Increased REAL LIFE performance
4/ Superior battery life
5/ Full customisation
6/ Added features
HTC makes some great phones, but XDA Developers make then way better

CitizenLee said:
Haha, that's exaggerating it a bit mate!
Not everyone who uses custom ROMs are concerned with superficial benchmark scores! Most will agree they don't relate to real life performance.
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true, but If I read some replies here on XDA it makes you think

Humm, have you even tried a custom rom?
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yes tried ARHD (3.0, 3.1, 3.2), I went back to stock as there where all little issue's with it, that are not in stock.
I need a stable, trustworty platform, which you don't get by pressing the last juice out of the phone hardware. I think the devs do great work though, guess it is just not for all of us
Now I stop, cause this is NOT on topic anymore. Bottomline if you're happy with your phone the way it is from factory (topic starter), then there is no need to use a custom rom

I use a near stock, deodexed rom. Only thing I have gained is root and the ability to add themes, such as the funky power control widgets. I have used other roms in the past but there are from time to time issues if the rom has been modified too much.

Should I, Shouldn't I - Custom Rom

Hey everyone,
I have bought myself a Galaxy S 2 which is brilliant and has taken over from my Desire as my main device, but this has led me to the question, is it worth rooting my Desire and playing with custom roms now I do not have to rely on it as my main device?
It is on Orange, android 2.2, and if I mess it up, I suppose I could just drop it in a pool of water and return it on insurance lol
Reason I ask is because all the rooting threads confuse the crap out of me, but I have always been interested in messing around and seeing just what this phone is capable of or just what could be done to speed it up or have it looking super cool with new user experience.
I suppose the main question is, can you customise the phone to the same level without rooting and custom roms, and is it really that much better when rooted?
Any opinions are very welcome.
Also, it is an SLCD, orange branded but network unlocked using the CD method I found on the forums. Is there anything I need to know about my phone, before I root, if I decide to root.
Anyway, thanks for any and all opinions or help on this.
Biffy.

Root and s-off if you want to be able to to anything.
After that you have to chose the rom ... The most difficult !
I currently use LeeDroiD 3.0.8.2 (GB + sense) in A2SD+ version. Fast, stable and enough features inside for me.

to me installing custom rom is more because of curiousity. I learned quite a lot because of this custom roms thingie, since i was too worried to try it and done a LOT of reading here and there. until now, lol

Thanks for the replies So do you guys think that the custom roms improve the phone? If not improve, is it fun again playing with the phone when you've installed a rom?
I'd love to install something with a new version of sense to see what it's like, as playing with the Desire HD in a shop, it seemed really good.
Anyway cheers for the replies I'm gonna read more about rooting..
Cheers.

I was also worried in the beginning but I read all the tutorials on forum and it is very easy to put custom ROM. Also I'm using 2.1+3.0 sense and it is very nice + ROM is fast and stable
start from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084

Brilliant Thanks I'll take a look there as that sounds perfect
Biff.

Just done Unrevolked and phone is in ClockworkMod Recovery now, seems it is rooted lol.
I will leave it there and read more see what else I can do or what my next step is...

Ok, i'm getting excited now, as i've rooted and S-Off'd my phone now, and have gparted ready to sort out the SDCARD
This is where i'm stuck as I don't know which ROM to use, although I believe a gingersense (If I can convince myself I don't want to use camera?) or a HD Rom would be best for me to try.
I think the AOSP? Stock android roms are a little .. shall we say .. ugly, and the MIUI (iphoneish) ones are too iphoney.
So what do you guys reckon are the best gingersense or HD roms about?
Cheers for all the posts and suggestions, it's going well I think
Biff.

I'm using this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113070
it's fast and stable, cheers

Awesome, that one looks great i'll see if I can get it installed later.
Tried to install Cyanogenmod 7 CM1 through ROM manager, but I am getting what I believe is referred to in the trade as a boot loop lol
Will have a play to sort it out

[Q] Comparison of speed between stock based roms

Well i want to ask someone who used these roms a lot more then me because i didn`t use them for more then 2-3 weeks so i can`t compare very good. I want to know the comparison of speediness and smoothness after much ussage of these roms :
MMB DebianDroid Lenny
Adrenaline
Enhanced236
Dellanoister Lewa Gio
S`Perience
Crane Rom
So these are the fastest roms that i used but i want to know the long term effect on speed and stability , for example after adding many apps after flashing a `2ext script and different mumbo-jumbo tweaking the settings , etc you get it.
I want to settle once and for all for one of these but the thing is DebianDroid cannot play videos correctly and with Adrenaline i cannot connect to my wifi access point. Enhanced236 i think i found a pretty serious bug sometime but i can`t remember now and Lewa Gio i didn`t use so much.
So please , anyone who used these roms a lot more then me , recommend which one. Thank you

Well, I used Enhanced236 for about a month and it's the best Gio ROM for me. Nice design, super smooth, same on the first day and the month later.
But I'm addicted to ROMs, so I changed it. I have nandroid backup to restore it whenever I want.
Now I'm on Giogiel v3, and it seems kinda nice. It has int2ext+ included, nice design, and fast.
Everybody likes different kinds of ROMs, so it's the best to try all ROMs and see which one you like the most.

RonninDamn , what 2ext you use for enhanced236 that doesn`t affect performance or stability ? i tried int2ext+ and it screwed up.

bogdanwp said:
RonninDamn , what 2ext you use for enhanced236 that doesn`t affect performance or stability ? i tried int2ext+ and it screwed up.
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I used link2sd. Then I couldn't try 2ext scripts, because I couldn't delete link2sd script, and I was satisfied with link2sd.

[Q] Just want a stable phone, thats all...

Hi guys, I am a BASIC android user with BASIC phone needs. Unfortunately I own a HTC Desire Z with Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread) and the very crapy HTC Sense 2.1 thats keeps on slowing down the phone and mostly rendering it beyond the point of regular usage.
I want the cleanest possible, fully functioning Android version available, like on Nexus phones. Just a plain, simple, clean and basic Android version. No need for overclocking, Sense crap, MIUI interfaces or other spectaculair may-work-may-not-work-brick-my-phone stuff, just a simple working smartphone, you can call with, send text messages with, Viber, Skype or Whatsapp with. You know, kinda like old people do with the phone
So 2 questions:
1. Which version would you guys recommend as being the cleanest one available on the forum?
2. How on earth do I get there? I have basic/bit advanced knowledge about rooting phones, Kernels, radio versions, etc, but this HTC phone is beyond me. Should I first root it, then CID Unlock/ s-Off it, do I first have to downgrade it to Froyo, etc etc etc. I know the easiest answer is RTFM, or use the search function on this forum first, but with my basic knowledge I cant seem to figure it out with the tons and tons of information thats out there on the forum.
So please, a few pointers, short first-this-then-that guidelines, and I'm sure I will get there.
Have a great weekend, DaMO

First of all, you're in the wrong section.
Second : The best rom without any trouble is this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480
If you want more feature : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Both are very stable. Very fast. No problem at all.
But I have to say, these time, most of recent roms are pretty reliable.

Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM

damo666 said:
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
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The deamon allow you to control overclocking, voltage, I/O, governors.
Witch you dont need, if you dont want to play with it.
i.e mimicry's already set to 1000 mhz cpu. You dont need to touch anything if you're satisfied with this cpu speed.
It's hard to find a complete guide for newbes. Back in years, I remember that I had to look at multiple thread to be sure how to root/backup/flash and make sure not to brick.

The major difference between the two (I was using Mimicry myself for the longest time, but I'm currently testing the Flinny Jellybean build) is one is Gingerbread (CM7) and the other is Ice cream sandwich. So if you're find with android OS 2.3, you will for the most part have the most compatibility with the phone's hardware (since all the drivers are avail), and will run better on the phone. But Mimicry will give you the features of ICS (4.0.x), but may lack in some areas like camera capabilities with 3rd party apps such as instagram (which is fixed in the jellybean rom I'm currently using).
But as a "basic" user, I think sticking with gingerbread will do you just fine.

I personally found this guide most useful and very easy to follow. The only problem might be that it needs adb and the respective drivers, but installing it should not be too difficult.
My favourite ROM, when it comes to speed and stability, is the "cm-7.2.0-vision.zip" found here. It might have some extras, but compared to everything else I tried (and I tried a lot), it worked like a charm.

Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it

damo666 said:
Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
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I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.

fletchb said:
I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
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I used a mix of guides, basically the procedure was: downgrade to Froyo, unlocked and temporarly rooted (S-Off), got it permanent rooted, and then installed CM 7.2.0
Thats all

Honest Suggestion Needed.

Hello. I used Note 2 two years ago and then I gave it to my uncle.
Now he is very much complaining about lagging and battery.
So he gave it to me to fix it.
I know most of things about rooting and flashing. I use cm13 in my other mobile.
So I decided to install custom rom.
Now my request to all that please suggest me a good rom which is complete bug free, smooth and battery friendly.
I know its not good to ask, but I have only today to download and install..
so please dont answer like check by yourself.
whatever you feel about prticular rom then please reply. If with bugs then please tell me which are they?
If bug is like fm radio or exfat support, then they dont count for me.
Thanks in advance.
dont get angry on me.

The most stable and bug-free ROM I have used is a stock ROM.
To increase battery life, you could re-flash stock, wipe, root, and remove unnecessary apps.