This might come as late issue, since everybody already moved to 4.3 or 4.4.2, but the thing is I got stuck from my own insecurity to install a Custom Rom, and standing behind is starting to hurt my device.
Since it's rooted, I cannot update automatically trought Kies, but I just don't get to understand all the variables implied on flashing or installing a Custom Rom, from bootloaders, Knox, constantly appearing new versions of required software, hipertextual installation guides whose requirements link you to either obsolete utilities, or utilities for which my device became obsolete, and seas of prerrequisites whose end I cannot manage to find.
So, I would like to know if there's any short way for getting out 4.1.2. Would TriangleAway help me?
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I am creating this thread because I have not found another ZACT rooting/flashing thread yet and I am hopping that a dev will pop in and start working on this, or help walk me through what I can do to get the ball rolling. Check out my first thread, The future of phones is coming
I received 2 phones a few weeks ago now. I wasn't thinking and just jumped the gun and updated to 4.3 on one of them (the other is my fiances and have instructed her NOT to do the update). I am unable to cf-auto-root with the sprint s3 method, so no root. I read if I get the recovery.img from the phone I can post in on Chainfire's cf-auto-root page and he can make a cf-auto-root for the zact s3. I can not get a recovery.img to send in because it is my understanding that to adb pull the recovery I need root. cant get root because I dont have a recovery.img?
I spoke with zact team members a few times. I told them I was having issues with 4.3 and wanted to go back to 4.2.2. A few people were helpful at first. Unfortunately, they are so small, I seem to keep running into the same people, and then they stop trying to help. What I have learned is, they "have confirmed with there Team, that if you process the software downgrade, the Zact software will not work on your phone. This is based upon how our software interfaces with the firmware." SO, that being said we would need to find out what software they have installed and have it integrated into any roms made. Does that sound right?
They also WILL NOT share the MSL. Which is another reason I want root. I still plan on cloning the phone as a backup if I have issues with flashing. but without the msl, i cant change the qualcomm settings to connect to dfs/cdma to back clone it.
I am not a developer, I could use some direction. I feel ZACT will start growing once people realize how much you can save compared to a sprint plan. I have noticed that I get better service then a lot of the people I work with. I am on prl version 24017, which I have not seen before either.
devildogwillbur said:
I am creating this thread because I have not found another ZACT rooting/flashing thread yet and I am hopping that a dev will pop in and start working on this, or help walk me through what I can do to get the ball rolling. Check out my first thread, The future of phones is coming
I received 2 phones a few weeks ago now. I wasn't thinking and just jumped the gun and updated to 4.3 on one of them (the other is my fiances and have instructed her NOT to do the update). I am unable to cf-auto-root with the sprint s3 method, so no root. I read if I get the recovery.img from the phone I can post in on Chainfire's cf-auto-root page and he can make a cf-auto-root for the zact s3. I can not get a recovery.img to send in because it is my understanding that to adb pull the recovery I need root. cant get root because I dont have a recovery.img?
I spoke with zact team members a few times. I told them I was having issues with 4.3 and wanted to go back to 4.2.2. A few people were helpful at first. Unfortunately, they are so small, I seem to keep running into the same people, and then they stop trying to help. What I have learned is, they "have confirmed with there Team, that if you process the software downgrade, the Zact software will not work on your phone. This is based upon how our software interfaces with the firmware." SO, that being said we would need to find out what software they have installed and have it integrated into any roms made. Does that sound right?
They also WILL NOT share the MSL. Which is another reason I want root. I still plan on cloning the phone as a backup if I have issues with flashing. but without the msl, i cant change the qualcomm settings to connect to dfs/cdma to back clone it.
I am not a developer, I could use some direction. I feel ZACT will start growing once people realize how much you can save compared to a sprint plan. I have noticed that I get better service then a lot of the people I work with. I am on prl version 24017, which I have not seen before either.
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WARNING!! If you process that downgrade, you will trip KNOX security, then your phone will be bricked. Also, ESN cloning is illegal to talk about on XDA.
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I will trip knox security? What exactly does Knox do, and what do you mean by that? I though Knox just makes it read 0x1 on the odin screen if you flash now? If thats what you mean, I already did that by flashing cf-auto-root. Its my understanding that the boot loader is the issue when downgrading. but on this site, they say that only at&t users should not try it, and technically this is a sprint phone I believe. Just with added software.
If I am wrong please let me know.
Also, I think you mean that it is not acceptable, not illegal. Illegal would imply I could get arrested for commenting about phone cloning on this site. And although cloning your personal phone for your own uses is not illegal, I will not mention it again on these forums. Thanks for the warnings.
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Also, I guess I am not necessarily trying to downgrade, just trying to find out what needs to be done so that I can flash or ANYTHING to get away for 4.3 issues. Since the upgrade, my fiance sent me an mms and it has popped up in my messages 5 times, so it looks like she keeps sending it, but I am unable to open it because it wont download.
The more important issue is root. I want to be able to use my root apps to backup, re install my old backups from my last s3, and attempt to get my msl to try and fix the mms issue.
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Today has been a productive day so far... using Skunk Ape1's root method "[Tutorial] Rooting the Sprint GalaxyS3 the Easy Way" I was able to get twrp recovery installed. (I wasn't able to do this before because prior the only method i knew was to go to goo.manager and that didn't recognize my device) SO, with twrp installed, i flashed the zip file from Skunk Ape1's root method. Following the instructions to the T everything seemed to work fine. After reboot, I had a knox message popped up, saying "SECURITY NOTICE: Unauthorized access to a secured area has..." I relive that root has been installed but knox is keeping locked up still. I am going to look for this mysterious "Knox remover script" that you will see in the first post on that page, then I will attempt root again.
I have officially given up on root currently. I have tried every root method I can find, my flash counter is somewhere around 13. I was able to use the knox removal script from here If anyone has suggestions for root, I am open to ideas. Thanks.
Finally did it
So, today i was just realizing the lack of space i had on my phone from downloading stuff and photos so i wanted to clean it up. I moved all the important stuff off, and though it would be a good time to factory reset and just have a clean new phone to start over again. ( I missed flashing and this was the closest thing I had) So, during the process of factory resting i wanted to clean everything so i click data, cach, internal external.. system.. yeah well bad idea. my phone rebooted and go stuck on the boot. So i restarted in recovery and reset again and this time is warned me that there was no OS installed... F*ck... Zact customer service wont give me the "custom software" that they installed so im screwed.
After hours of thinking and trying to do stupid odd ball things that i knew wouldnt work. I downloaded a sprint stock 4.3 tar file and odined to my phone. started up fine. works great. so... what zact said about flashing roms bricking this phone was BS.. the only custom thing i have seen was in the zact mobile app that came installed had some extra features used to send usage info and reboot stuff for zact troubleshooting. so with stock sprint rom, and zact mobile app im back to my phone working. AND with that, im going to move on to the rooting, and flashing of this piece of crap. Ill be back with more details later.
I have installed CyanogenMod with full root!!!
well first off, i had the CMinstaller set up but it did not recognize my device so after a while i decided to attempt to cf_auto_root, which seemed to work but failed root checker. I wanted to try another method. I had CMinstaller still up* I was attempting THIS method to root. I was using philz_touch_6.15.4-d2spr.tar.md5 that I flashed using Odin 3.07 (that I have had for a long time on my pc. so google that one)https://www.google.com/search?q=odin+3.07&oq=odin+3.07&aqs=chrome..69i57.3464j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 After i installed Philz touch, i noticed CMinstaller noticed my phone and started downloading system files. I continued what i was doing with the root method and installed DE-SAMSUNGNIZER_KNOX_REMOVAL_SCRIPT_V1.0 and UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93 just as CMinstaller finished its download, so i said what the hey, and clicked install. next thing i knew i was running cyanogenmod with full root!!! please someone else verify this and let me know if you get it going too.
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so yeah, just for to check i flashed back to stock 4.3 (not sure who uploaded it but it works) It does have knox so be warned. I then followed the root method in my previous post and it worked fine. i have stock with root. If someone can try it without using that tar file, let me know. Cant really go back once you do it so i cant try the root method with the zact "custom software" myself. Let me know what you find out. Hope this helps someone.
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Thanks for posting your struggles and successes. With Zact shutting down I was curious about what I could do with my kids' S3s if I don't like the Sprint plan that they are rolling us into. I may be trying this in a couple weeks...
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Barnsie said:
Thanks for posting your struggles and successes. With Zact shutting down I was curious about what I could do with my kids' S3s if I don't like the Sprint plan that they are rolling us into. I may be trying this in a couple weeks...
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What I would do and have done for my fiance and myself, get on Zact.com live chat ask them to Deactivate your phones. and give them the DEC on the back of the phones. It takes about one min for it to complete per phone. Then go on over to Ting.com and start up a new account with them using your old zact phone. Ting also lists the MSL that i struggled so much trying to get. I would recommend flashing a stock rooted rom debloated, to get all that ZACT crap off your phones. and start out fresh.
I had rooted my SGS3 while on 4.0.4 using the stock Samsung rom and Odin without issue no custom ROMS were installed just root access. Early August of 2013 the OTA for 4.1.2 was rolled out and I had accepted the update which was installed without issue, which apparently should not have been the case (everything I can find says OTAs will fail if you have root access, but this was not the case). I now want to either return to a full stock to get the 4.3.3 update at which point I may remain unrooted, or gain root again and update to 4.3.3 with root. I'm cautious about how to proceed here since I've read about a lot of people bricking their phones while attempting to root after 4.3.3. My primary concern is that my flash counter is tripped at 1, but I don't have root access and am not sure how to proceed with out potentially damaging my phone. So I'm essentially getting the worst of both worlds (unable to receive stock updates from carrier, no root access to update otherwise.) and don't want to be stuck on 4.1.2 for the life of this phone. I still have SuperSU installed, but when I open it it says "There is no SuperSU Binary installed and Super SU cannot install it. This is a problem!"
I have searched these forums and a few related to it, and from what I can gather I should just reroot the phone following instructions for 4.1.2, but if I want to make the jump to 4.3.3 I wasn't clear if this would be needed or not, but none of the threads I could find directly addressed the issue for the ATT SGS3 i747. The closest I found was a thread posted last month where the OP was directed to the CF Root procedures, but there was no followup after that. I'm just a little leery about what might happen if I reroot with another method and end up with duplicate files/.apks etc related to the root process on my phone.
I also wanted to be sure that rerooting using a different method wouldn't somehow damage my phone.
Can someone with some experience please advise of the safest best practice for me to either recover root and update, or remove root and update so I can start fresh later? From what I can gather this should be an easy fix, but I would prefer to rely on the expertise of someone more knowledgable as opposed to winging it on a gut feeling I will be ok.
Hi All
Let me start with few good things here You guys are amazing helping and providing tweaks for us:good:
I am Nexus user. I have Installed Custom Recovery, Flashed ROMs and rooted my Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. This is my First Samsung Tablet. I have waited enough for Nexus 10 (2). I finally bought SM-P600.
I was trying to find an Guide with links for Unlocking bootloader and Updating firmware and then flash Custom recovery for this but coudnt figure it out
I have been reading lots of things about Knox and counters related to it.
Can anyone Please help me find answers straight.
1) Any Rooting and Custom Recovery tools or ADB commands without Hitting the KNOX counter {Just In case IF I wanted to return it} If not then which one you recommend ?
By the Way I found few posts related to Rooting Which has confused me more. I used to use Chainfire SUROOT:
Rooting using CF-AUTO Root
Universal Root de la Vega
2) If I Root and want to use Stock ROM of SM-P600 will all apps work normally or any known issues with it ?
3) Is Odin any tool which everyone is taking about ? I am not sure about it Can you provide any links to its dev for more info. Found it about in a Post to return to STOCK ?
4) Are these ROMS and apps Odexed or Deodexed ROM?
5) Any Dependencies for Firmware and with any of the above questions. I mean In Universal Root I saw they were talking about certain version of firmware. Also Should I update the latest firmware and do a Nandriod backup ?
6) Also read that once KNOX counter goes up, I wont get any OTA ? My Plan is I will use it till next Nexus and will give it to parents with stock ROM. If I am using I can always use an Custom Rom and get updates. But for parents I want to return it to stock so that they can easily update when OTA is available.
I would like to make one more suggestion to MOD's Please Pin the Guides like the Rooting and stuff like Return to Stock which are quite common and useful so that its easy for newbies( aka for Samsung) like me.
Thanks
Zaib.
1. This is not really a single question with a single answer I think vaguely what you are asking is if you can root without tripping knox?
Nope. Not at this time.
2. If you use CF-Auto-Root you'll likely find that the vast majority of applications keep working without issue. Of those that don't, a handful you can manage back to a working state with various tweaks, but there are a few that are probably gone for good. You can basically kiss all the Samsung hub apps goodbye, these will start claiming they are not supported in your country even if they were working perfectly prior to rooting, some may continue working for a short time after but eventually something leaks and your access is cut. Screen mirroring will no longer work though this can be fixed with a small zip file flash. OTA updates are also gone.
Forget all the talk about 'triangle away' fixing any of this, it hasn't for me.
3. Odin is a tool that is able to flash firmware files or parts thereof to your device. Heimdall is an alternative suite of applications, while there is a GUI for it, it seems fairly hit and miss on Linux these days, I've never had much luck with it, on the other hand the command line tools work perfectly fine.
Once you trip Knox, there's no turning back! You won't lose your warranty in any meaningful way, but you may end up having to argue about it and drag in government regulators to get your tablet repaired free of charge depending on the dealer response.
4. I don't think this is particularly relevant to the SM-P600. My subjective opinion would be to stick with the bog standard Samsung ROM. If you want cool themes there are a multitude of launchers, Xposed takes care most other things you might ever care to tweak.
5. You have one choice. CF-Auto-Root. Backups are healthy.
6. True, but you'll still be able to flash via Odin so it doesn't really mean much of anything. Once you trip Knox, you can also kiss OTA updates goodbye as well.
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My tab crash while flashing twrp
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My tab crash while flashing twrp
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How are you flashing TWRP, through recovery or Odin?
Samsung Galaxy SIII SGH-I747M Build No. KOT49H.I747MVLUFOB3 Android Ver. 4.4.2 Kernel Ver. 3.4.0-1784548
Have backed up personal files but not system, yet.
Phone unlocked from Rogers (Canada) carrier and rooted using Kingo App.
Have installed Root checker, Rom Manager, Busy Box, Super Su and have downloaded the firmware[ I747MVLUFOB3_I747MOYAFOB3_RWC.zip. ] to have on hand.
I rooted the phone because everything I had read to date [which may not have been enough] told me rooting was necessary. Would like to install a more up to date android than 4.4.2, possibly 5.0 or 6.0. Also, to get rid of Apps I never use. Because I see so much in my reading about Cyanogenmod, I thought I would start with 12 and go from there.
Have been trying to follow steps at the link for https wiki cyanogenmod org/w/d2att_Info which I believe is the correct one for my model number, which has led me to the link at https wiki cyanogenmod org/w/Install_CM_for_d2lte where it tells me that:
Rooting the stock firmware is neither recommended nor necessary
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Firstly, I am just wondering,
1a] since I still have the original firmware installed, could I just unroot with the same Kingo App I used to root the phone?
1b] Would/Can I still use Rom Manager to do my system backup?
Secondly, if it is not too technical an explanation, why is it that the Rogers(Canada) i747m does not need nor is it recommended to be rooted? It almost sounds as if it already is or maybe rogers firmware is weak and easily hacked?
Thirdly, just a comment on my part, as interesting and good as this whole process is, it seems that rooting and installing new firmware can be a bit of a Pandora's box and the people who are developing things to do so are very diligent and creative.
I am still determined to make this happen with my i747m and am thankful for people on this forum and others to advise me.
To install a custom rom, you need to install a custom recovery to install the custom rom.
Rooting gives you access to the rom system files, similar to gaining administrative privilege on a Windows or Mac machine.
Rooting is not required before installing a custom recovery or custom rom.
I have never heard that that the Rogers i747m should not be rooted. For security and stability purposes, rooting any phone is not recommended by many people.
I am not familiar with the program that was used to root the phone but each program usually has an option to unroot.
I am not 100% certain as I haven't used a rom manager in years but I don't think the option to create nandroid exists.
Hi all, i've got an old Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 that's been kicking around a few years.
Just went to update it, and it is saying that officially the latest update it has is 4.4.2, which is like getting towards 5 years old.
As far as i can tell, there isn't anything explictly preventing the tablet having a 'better' version of Android on it. Am i wrong?
If not, how can you trick/force the system into downloading it, and what is 'safe'?
EDIT: I mean.. it still uses the Menu button for chrissake.... and you can't disable apps you dislike (afaik)
Cheers,
Sam
kahlzun said:
Hi all, i've got an old Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 that's been kicking around a few years.
Just went to update it, and it is saying that officially the latest update it has is 4.4.2, which is like getting towards 5 years old.
As far as i can tell, there isn't anything explictly preventing the tablet having a 'better' version of Android on it. Am i wrong?
If not, how can you trick/force the system into downloading it, and what is 'safe'?
EDIT: I mean.. it still uses the Menu button for chrissake.... and you can't disable apps you dislike (afaik)
Cheers,
Sam
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I'm not sure I even want to recommend this, but you might want to look HERE.
Also, you seem to completely new to this whole process of modifying your tablet, so I will give you a little general info. You can't trick your device into updating itself to a software version that doesn't exist for device. The software will only work if it has been customized for your specific device (T310). But, there are custom roms that are made for the T310 with newer version of Android (such as the one at the link above).
You can remove any app you wish to remove, simply by "rooting" your device. The T310 is easily rootable. Do a little reading about "rooting Android" and custom recoveries to understand what benefits it provides.
Read, read, read...then read some more. Then, you may want to install a custom rom.
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I'm not sure I even want to recommend this, but you might want to look HERE.
Also, you seem to completely new to this whole process of modifying your tablet, so I will give you a little general info. You can't trick your device into updating itself to a software version that doesn't exist for device. The software will only work if it has been customized for your specific device (T310). But, there are custom roms that are made for the T310 with newer version of Android (such as the one at the link above).
You can remove any app you wish to remove, simply by "rooting" your device. The T310 is easily rootable. Do a little reading about "rooting Android" and custom recoveries to understand what benefits it provides.
Read, read, read...then read some more. Then, you may want to install a custom rom.
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Excellent, that was the sort of thing i was looking for, thanks.
I am a little surprised to find the software is so restrictive, i guess i'm used to the idea of OS'es like Windows which don't care about the specific hardware they're in, as long as it can run it.
I will naturally do my research into the process and the risks before doing anything that would void the (albeit expired) warranty.
Thanks again,
Sam
gr8nole said:
I'm not sure I even want to recommend this, but you might want to look HERE.
Also, you seem to completely new to this whole process of modifying your tablet, so I will give you a little general info. You can't trick your device into updating itself to a software version that doesn't exist for device. The software will only work if it has been customized for your specific device (T310). But, there are custom roms that are made for the T310 with newer version of Android (such as the one at the link above).
You can remove any app you wish to remove, simply by "rooting" your device. The T310 is easily rootable. Do a little reading about "rooting Android" and custom recoveries to understand what benefits it provides.
Read, read, read...then read some more. Then, you may want to install a custom rom.
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Thanks! Works for me