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Hello all.
I just became the new owner of a family member's Samsung Galaxy S3 (AT&T). Already owning and tinkering with two xperia Ion's I wanted to have a little more freedom and experience Kitkat on the GS3.
I had no experience in unlocked bootloaders and all that, so I figured that I would let the Cyanogenmod Auto-Installer do the work for me and install CM11 on my device.
It worked great initially! No problems whatsoever aside from minor glitches here and there. As soon as I started installing some more apps and Xposed modules, I noticed that things were getting odd.
Eventually, my phone wouldn't connect to google's play services whatsoever. Despite countless resets of the phone itself and my modem/router, nothing seemed to help. Flushing the cache and dalvik didn't help either, nor did a factory reset. The issue kept coming back.
Thinking that perhaps another rom wouldn't have the problem, I installed C-Rom (which was based on 4.4.4 KK). It ran BEAUTIFULLY! It is sure one hell of a rom. But then, not too long after I had everything installed and running the way I wanted it to, it had the same errors as before.
I don't know how to explain the error other than the phone just generally messing up. I don't recall it ever having those issues on stock, but then again, it wasn't my phone on stock, and the first thing I did upon receiving it was put a custom rom on it.
But the error can only be explained as a general f***-up of the entire OS. Commands run brutally slow (I will launch the flashlight and it wont turn on until seconds, even minutes later. Alternatively, text messages take eons to send and receive, which I am positive is not an error on the AT&T side of things). Then, whenever I try to download or install an app from the play store, the application will download partially and then stall for what feels like eons. Some of the applications just stop there, and some I will find installed on the device some 30 minutes later. Not to mention that the signal icons on the quick setting tiles are all turned orange for some bizarre reason. Another bizarre issue is that no matter what, I can never launch the terminal to execute an htop, logcat, or anything! The terminal just stalls and eventually crashes, while it worked fine before.
I've checked online for errors similar to this, but haven't found anything that has helped the phone. Anyone out there who is willing to give this a crack or just point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
benhofb said:
((if this is in the wrong place or has been covered before, I apologize...))
Hello all.
I just became the new owner of a family member's Samsung Galaxy S3 (AT&T). Already owning and tinkering with two xperia Ion's I wanted to have a little more freedom and experience Kitkat on the GS3.
I had no experience in unlocked bootloaders and all that, so I figured that I would let the Cyanogenmod Auto-Installer do the work for me and install CM11 on my device.
It worked great initially! No problems whatsoever aside from minor glitches here and there. As soon as I started installing some more apps and Xposed modules, I noticed that things were getting odd.
Eventually, my phone wouldn't connect to google's play services whatsoever. Despite countless resets of the phone itself and my modem/router, nothing seemed to help. Flushing the cache and dalvik didn't help either, nor did a factory reset. The issue kept coming back.
Thinking that perhaps another rom wouldn't have the problem, I installed C-Rom (which was based on 4.4.4 KK). It ran BEAUTIFULLY! It is sure one hell of a rom. But then, not too long after I had everything installed and running the way I wanted it to, it had the same errors as before.
I don't know how to explain the error other than the phone just generally messing up. I don't recall it ever having those issues on stock, but then again, it wasn't my phone on stock, and the first thing I did upon receiving it was put a custom rom on it.
But the error can only be explained as a general f***-up of the entire OS. Commands run brutally slow (I will launch the flashlight and it wont turn on until seconds, even minutes later. Alternatively, text messages take eons to send and receive, which I am positive is not an error on the AT&T side of things). Then, whenever I try to download or install an app from the play store, the application will download partially and then stall for what feels like eons. Some of the applications just stop there, and some I will find installed on the device some 30 minutes later. Not to mention that the signal icons on the quick setting tiles are all turned orange for some bizarre reason. Another bizarre issue is that no matter what, I can never launch the terminal to execute an htop, logcat, or anything! The terminal just stalls and eventually crashes, while it worked fine before.
I've checked online for errors similar to this, but haven't found anything that has helped the phone. Anyone out there who is willing to give this a crack or just point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
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It sounds like you're the modules you're installing are crashing your system. I'd suggest you do a clean flash of w/e rom you wanna rush (you seem to like C-rom) and run it clean for a few days. You can install apps and such but don't restore system apps and don't install modules.
If it runs fine after a few days, you can cherry-pick the modules you wanna use (make sure they're made for the sammy phones). Install one or two, test for a couple days and so on. You'll eventually find which one is messing with your system (if that's actually what's causing the problems).
All seems to be well now. I've isolated the problematic app after slowly restoring all my app data one at a time. I have since moved to a different rom (SOKP) and everything is going running smoothly! Surprisingly, it wasn't Xposed causing the issue, but a market app that displays system info similar to conky on Linux computers. Once I installed it, the system just crapped out. Signals dropped, the terminal froze, and none of my apps seemed to work properly. But once I uninstalled the app and reset my phone, all was well.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
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I was using the Lite 1.3.3.3 for about a month without any problems, then the other morning I turned off my phone and pulled my SD card to copy some music onto it using a USB MicroSD adaptor. This is a usual activity for me.
When I popped the card back in the phone and rebooted, Swiftkey, Uninstaller and ROM Manager force closed upon boot. I had to uninstall Swiftkey to stop the messages showing, neither of the other two apps were responding, upon further inspection, more apps were doing this.
Previous to this, the Market stopped downloading apps, GoogleTalk constantly give me errors about being able to authenticate and I could no longer store contacts to my google account. I figured there was a problem with Google's servers, but this continued for a week.
So, I installed the 1.4.1.0 version, figuring it was newer and probably fixed whatever was wrong with the Lite version. Today, the same thing happened to me, only this time, more apps died on me, many of them resetting their data. Rather frustrating. Also, ROM Manager, some time ago, stopped finishing the "Fix Permissions" process. It'd hang at random points, on random apps, each time I restarted it, it'd get a little closer. However, restarting the process 100-some times wasn't feasable.
I now have 1.3.3.3 installed, with Data2EXT, fresh. However, I'm going to download and install 1.4.1.1 classic, and strip out all the rubbish that comes with it (why the dev doesn't update their Lite version, I don't know, none of the preinstalled apps show in the market available to be updated. Useless!)
It can also take an extremely long time to show the screen when I push the power button
Here's the important bit:
This is the best ROM I've used so far, in that it took a month before it force closed into unusability. However, is this user error? Am I at fault here? I never did a hot reboot, as I know this isn't good for data2EXT installs. What gives?
And the 1.4.1.1 version does NOT install Data2EXT for you. So there is no "intelligent Data2EXT" installation with that version. What a massive waste of my time.
Well, the story goes:
My wife´s SGH-i474 (AT&T) had 4.1.2 installed, crappy reception, launcher buggy (it created more desktops everytime she wanted to delete one), and overall the phone felt laggy. She plays just 3 games, Farmville 2 CS, Candy Crush and Clash of Clans (she´s actually pretty good this one). Not too long ago, since the phone was only rooted to install greenify and link2sd to freeze the bloatware, she found out that it was possible to update the phone to a newer release; and I saw that there was an official OTA to 4.4.2, but since we are overseas, the stock update won´t go (it said that the phone was updated).
I dived into google and I saw that here on xda there was a method to get it into 4.4.2. And me, being the android guy and wanted to get lucky I tried it and succedded, but with one detail...
You see, I mentioned the games for a particular reason, 2 ouf of 3 work, Farmville for some reason doesn´t load (it gets to the loading screen and stays there at 0%). I left it overnight, with the option of leaving the screen on while charging, so that the phone won´t "sleep" to see if the game need to download a file and it was taking a long time, but no, 10 hours later it was still at 0%.
After that, I decided to install Logcat to see what was going on while the game at launch time. Surpringsinly, logcat was unable to save the log to the "sdcard". , another dive into google revealed that there was indeed a bug on the sdcard permissions (never knew that this kind of thing would happen to the gigantic Google, OMG ), and there were several fixes available, which I tried, even manually (just to see that the apps did indeed what they advertised, but to be true, the stock rom that I used had this fix already installed, thank you Mr even... or who ever went into the trouble of making all those files and instructions that helped me get into 4.4.2, I just don´t recall the nickname, but I do remember he has a beard )
Back to the point, I find it odd, that logcat was unable to write to the sdcard, and more odd that just a game was unable to work, because it worked before the update, but logcat doesn´t show anything related to "permission denied" to the Zynga app, nor to logcat itself when it wanted to write to the sdcard.
Since I am just a poweruser, I already wiped to stock and nothing changed, I tried another logcat application with the same result, so what I believe is that maybe the apps have something wrong, because I didn´t find anyone complaining about the stock rooted rom that I used. Besides that it was stock, and just rooted, I just wanted to know if anyone happened to have this problem and if they were able to fix it or have a workaround it.
Just to clarify, the phone works perfectly, and all the 51 apps that has installed (yep, she´s kinda a tech girl herself) work, except FV (which won´t go past 0% at the loading screen) and those to logcat applications that I used. (Catlog and Logviewer Lite, which can´t save logs to the sdcard), even the camera works and saved pics to the sdcard withouth problem (one of the things I saw reading is that maybe the camera would stop working but nope, just fine).
If you have any ideas, please, express yourself.
The kitkat update for google did in fact make it to where nothing could be written to sd. Google trying to get rid of sd cards for some stupid reason. Anyway, if the phone is rooted, try the xposed app with the external sd modules. Took care of my problems with that, not on my S3 because enewman17 is so damn awesome with his S3Rx rom that he took care of that, but on my Note 10.1 and Tab 4 fixed it right up
I see, could you be more specific about the xposed app, the name in fact, a search rendered quite a few, an I am not native english speaker.
I mustbe cursed hehe, I found the "app", is a framework, but guess what? I am unable to install because it is unable to write to the sdcard hehehe, I will give a try to the custom rom.
To mr Enewman, you sir, you deserve a cold beer, my wife is now happy, just a little glitch with the google keyboard at the first boot but after that excellent.
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To mr Enewman, you sir, you deserve a cold beer, my wife is now happy, just a little glitch with the google keyboard at the first boot but after that excellent.
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It is an outstanding ROM for sure. Glad it's working.
Hi everyone,
I'm the new owner of an unlocked T-Mo D851, and will be using it on AT&T. I bought the T-Mo version instead of the ATT version due to the unlocked bootloader and better Dev support. Love those Devs!
I figured I'd post a thread with the things I learn along the way, to help others that might benefit, particularly since I'm joining the G3 community long after the novelty has worn off. Folks like me that join have a lot of past experience to review here, and so much is out of date it can be intimidating, particularly when our new device acts a lot different from our old one. I hope this thread helps someone, but at minimum it will serve as documentation for me to refer back to, should I need that. I'll include links where appropriate.
I'm an intermediate level flasher, having worked with maybe 6-8 other phones/tablets. So, I know enough to be dangerous, but not enough to have an ego to bruise. My most recent phone was a T-Mo Galaxy S4. But I dropped it, and cracked the screen, just a few weeks after getting it all settled in with a nice 5.1.1 GPE ROM. Sigh.
I got the phone a few days ago but have just gotten around to working on it.
On day 1 I charged it up, skipped setup (touch corners, upper left, upper right, lower right above the softkeys, lower left above the softkeys... took 10 tries or so!), and connected the wifi (no sim card inserted yet). It immediately found update 20E (it shipped with kitkat). I let that update, but was surprised it didn't find the current 20G update. I want to make sure I start with the latest firmware/modems etc. installed.
In this thread, helpful user @mitbit2k3 pointed me to the online LG site that lets you download the LG Mobile Support Tool. It also gives instructions for installing the PROPER PC connection driver for the phone which works, versus the default Win7 driver that doesn't work for the purposes of the update. With proper driver installed, and with USB connection in the right mode (follow instructions to set the phone USB settings), I got up to 20G stock.
I exercised the phone a bit (still without SIM card) and made sure everything worked... cameras, GPS, wifi, etc.
Then I figured it would be time to install TWRP and take it from there. Much to my surprise, you need to root this thing FIRST. Even with an unlocked bootloader, you can't just fire up ODIN and flash TWRP.
I did my research on the forum and through Google... with all the versions of software since release there were numerous descriptions of how to root the thing, some of which were outdated. For me, on 20G software (5.01 Android), this worked fine:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/3n0nk1/new_super_easy_oneclick_way_to_root_g3/
it references back to XDA of course:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3129197
From this I learned to review the top level LG G3 subforums, not just the T-Mobile XDA subforums!!
OK, that rooted me just fine and installed SuperSU. I was able to use the "first way" which is super simple.
With that done, I was able to install TWRP. I went straight to the source for it:
https://twrp.me/devices/lgg3tmo.html
I used the "dd" method which involves running ADB on the PC. I use a version that is a "Minimal ADB and Fastboot" that works fine... I used it to mess around with my Shield tablet previously, so I was familiar with it. Basically you run the minimal ADB through a desktop icon, and it loads a command line interface. You type ADB Shell after plugging in the phone to the USB cable (it has to be on, developer options enabled, debugging enabled). Then you type the commands listed on the TWRP site. Pretty soon TWRP is installed.
Next I had to figure out how to get into download mode. Yeah, yeah... power plus volume down... been there done that, but on the LG you have to boot with power/down, then when the LG icon comes up you release for a second, then press the two keys again, then at the next screen tell it you want to wipe the phone, and confirm this again on the next screen. THEN it finally boots into TWRP. Kinda scary. And getting the keys right takes some practice.
Once in TWRP, I backed everything up (including EFS partition) to an external SD card, just in case I messed something up. I had previously erased the SD card from within the phone's SEttings/Storage mode, to make sure it would be able to be accessed. No problem.
So now I've got a rooted phone, with TWRP installed, and the next step is to figure out what I want to do ROM wise. I wish there were a 5.1.1 GPE stock + LG Camera ROM. But I haven't found one. I like plain ROMs. The default stock ROM, even if it were debloated, its a bit annoying to me (and just 5.0.1) so I'll probably move to BlissPop or Slim something, but I will research around.
It's time to stick my SIM in and see how the phone does on AT&T. I'd like to get a baseline before I go ROM-hopping.
I will say that on stock ROM, with no SIM but WIFI on, the standby power drain on this thing is incredible. It went overnight (7 hours) and was still reading 100%. A whole 24 hours in, it was only a few percent lower. Of course, I hadn't attached any Google accounts, so the phone was truly idle, but it's very impressive nonetheless.
Stay tuned. I'll be updating this as I go along.
OK, I'm a few hours in.
No problem with my ATT SIM card in the phone; the phone was purchased unlocked and everything hooked up fine as soon as I entered in the APN information for ATT (which you can get from here).
The phone gave me a warning about WIFI Calling invalid SIM; I went into the settings and turned off WIFI calling, since I'm on ATT and only T-Mo offers it.
One other problem I haven't sorted out yet is that I get a text each time I reboot the phone, apparently my phone is sending a text to a very long address 060504071000004163.... and the text I get back is an error message that this isn't a valid number. Not sure how to turn this off. Annoying, but once per boot won't kill me until I figure it out. Google will likely be my friend. EDIT: I think this relates to T-mo visual voicemail. I went into the T-Mo Visual Voicemail app and I immediately got another one of these texts. Time to remove this app...
Meanwhile I notice the WIFI reception of this phone is much stronger than the S4. On the other hand, it seems less likely to drop a weak WIFI in favor of a stronger one... I have several access points around my house, and I've found I've needed to switch them manually now and then. Haven't had to do this on the S4.
I'm also struggling to get restores to work from my Backup Your Mobile app. I moved the backup onto an SD card in the G3, but the app isn't recognizing it. Uh oh. That's got my MMS/SMS/Call log backups. So, I've still got things to work on.
I gradually entered my various Google accounts, and let Play Store download the updates needed for all the apps. I've got about 75% of the apps I use re-downloaded.
I've got one "serious" problem in that the Play Store says the ATT Visual Voicemail app, which is a cornerstone of how I use the phone (because it transcribes voicemails into readable text), isn't compatible with my phone. That's crap. It worked fine on my T-Mo S4 (running a generic GPE edition). I'll probably have to sideload the app, but it's annoying that it's locked out.
Making progress.
I still couldn't download the ATT Visual Voicemail app from the Play Store, and went stir crazy trying to find it on my S4 (which is rooted, so I should be able to find it, but...). I went haring off in lots of directions, including making a full apps backup with Helium, but then the G3 won't restore without using the PC app due to changes in 5.0... which is weird because my S4 (which is running a 5.1.1 GPE ROM) restores fine. I don't have the PC app installed so I tried using Backup My Mobile... but then eventually figured out that on the S4, with ES File Explorer, I not only had Root Explorer OFF (didn't know I had to turn it on), but it's easy to find apps with the APP Library. Once I found the app there, I uploaded it to my Google Drive, then downloaded it from there onto the G3. It installed fine.
I used System App Remover (which requires root) to get rid of all the T-Mobile specific apps and that annoying Lookout security program. Bah! This cured that spurious text message I get with each boot. It was definitely due to the T-mo visual voice mail. Problem solved!
In using the phone, I'm a bit bummed because it didn't occur to me that a big part of my bigger screen as compared to the GS4 would be taken up by the softkeys on screen. The S4 has a physical home button and capacitive keys to either side. So, my screen isn't effectively much bigger, when I account for dedicating some of it to the buttons. You can make the buttons autohide, apparently. One issue is I use my phone in landscape much of the time, and the buttons don't rotate to the new "bottom" of the screen when I rotate. Gotta figure that out.
This morning I installed the PC Helium App so I could enable backup/restore access on the G3. That worked fine, but Helium on the G3 still doesn't detect my external SD card, in order to restore from it. I could manually copy files over to the internal Carbon folder, and restores from there worked fine. Still, I'm not sure why I'm having so much SD Card angst. I know things change each version of Android wrt SD cards... maybe something is fixed in 5.1.1 (as I had on my S4) that is broken in 5.01 on the G3.
So, I've got some tweaking to do from here. The phone is basically set up and working fine except for some straggler apps that I won't bother with until I need them, with one major exception: I need to go in and set up Light Flow. That app is a big part of how I manage notifications on any phone...
If you rooted your phone, then download and run the SDFix app from the Play Store. Apps will then have the ability to write to the external SD card...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix&hl=en&referrer=utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_term%3Dsd+card+fix+kitkat&pcampaignid=APPU_1_bJMtVsTJBoKajwP4noeABw
... and yes, it also works w/ Lollipop.
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If you rooted your phone, then download and run the SDFix app from the Play Store. Apps will then have the ability to write to the external SD card...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix&hl=en&referrer=utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_term%3Dsd+card+fix+kitkat&pcampaignid=APPU_1_bJMtVsTJBoKajwP4noeABw
... and yes, it also works w/ Lollipop.
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Thanks. I'll give this a whirl!
EDIT: WORKED LIKE A CHARM. Thanks again! And thanks for the link, because there were several SDFix apps. The link made sure I got the one you intended.:good:
OK, I'm in a pretty good place after making some changes. Still plenty to tweak though.
First, I decided to abandon the stock Home launcher. It was a bit annoying with little UI tweaks LG made that make it just not how I expect it to look, but the kicker was that in landscape mode, the titles of the icons were not readable... they were mostly cut off. I use Rotate (Ultimate Rotation) so pretty much every screen including home is rotatable. But LG Home maintains in landscape mode the little dots representing the various home screen pages... these take up just enough room so that things get squished a bit and the titles cut off. Couldn't figure out how to disable that, so just bailed and installed Google Now Launcher which fixed me right up. That fixed the look and feel of the home screen, the apps drawer, and even reverted settings to the normal views I'm used to.
The only problem is that it kills double tap to sleep... or at least reduces the footprint of the double-tappable area to the notification strip at the top. Sigh. In another thread someone mentioned using Greenify to fix it. I'll try that when I get a chance.
Another weird thing I've got going on is that when I connect via Bluetooth to my car, it starts playing music. See this thread. That's pretty annoying... for now I deleted the default music that was playing, and with an empty directory nothing plays.
I put on a screen protector last night. I got the 0.2mm iCarez one. I performed the application in a steamy bathroom after running the hot shower for a bit, per some tips over in the Accessories thread. I left the backing on, positioned the glass on the screen, taped one side for the "hinge method" after getting it perfectly aligned and accounting for the eventual loss of thickness of the plastic underbacking, cleaned everything one last time with the alcohol wipe, peeled the backing, and plopped it on starting in the center. Got it perfectly positioned and no major bubbles. There were a couple of "spec sized" non-uniformities but they were gone by morning.
I'm gradually setting in... Still lots to play with.
I've noticed the WIFI, while it gets good reception, is a bit sluggish to drop a weak connection in favor of a strong one. Anybody got a tweak for that?
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I've noticed the WIFI, while it gets good reception, is a bit sluggish to drop a weak connection in favor of a strong one. Anybody got a tweak for that?
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Try this app for WIFI management. I have tried several and this is the best I have found. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kman.WifiManager I agree completely that the wifi in the phone is very slow to drop a weak signal and grab a stronger one. But with wifi manager you can play with the sensitivity. Good luck.
Will do. Thanks for confirming it's not just me. Also on another note I just found the LG keyboard has lots of settings for customization. Not bad. May keep it!
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I'm running stock AT&T 4.0.4 ROM, rooted with CWM. Google Play Services just updated to version 9.2.56 (034-124593566), and it's sucking my battery dry and making the phone run hot. I have a spare phone and brought it online, and the same thing happened as soon as Google Play Services updated. It is running anywhere from 50% to 80% of my battery when the screen is below 10%. Yep, it's using more than 10x what the screen requires. Battery that used to last 18 hours now lasts 2 to 3. Others have posted similar comments in the Play Store (like that's going to do any good). Common theme is it's older OSes.
I have tried disabling everything and it doesn't do any good. Too many things break if Google Play Services is removed. Going back to an old version is futile -- it self-updates within minutes. I tried GServiceFix and it works for few minutes, then the usage creeps up again.
I sent Google an email, but I expect nothing less than the run-around. So, I turn to XDA Developers.
First, is anyone else here still running stock, and did the same thing happen to you? How about on other ROMs (please specify)? Did you find a fix?
Assuming Google will do little to help, I need to do something to make my phone work right. So if there is a ROM where this is not a problem, I guess it's time to jump in. Problem is, some of the links in this forum are broken. I've found (or already had) most of what I think I need except a version or EFS Professional that works on our phone. I can find no working links to an older version that will do the job. I do have a Nandroid backup (also stored on my NAS), which I believe can restore the EFS, but I'd like to get just the EFS in case I need to load it to the system after flashing. None of the tools available in the Play Store seem to work on the Glide -- I end up with an empty backup directory.
My plan, assuming there is a Jellybean ROM without this issue, is to flash twrp-2.8.4-flashable.zip, since I understand TWRP is required for JB, then do another Nandroid backup with it, then flash whichever ROM is suggested to get over this. I've looked at Bubor's CM10.2, and it looks like it will fill my needs unless it also suffers this problem. If there is a reason I should update the Kernel, please let me know. I have not seen anything that makes me believe I need to.
Man, I wish one of the manufacturers would come out with a similarly sized new phone with a slide-out keyboard and AT&T compatible. I'd gladly upgrade, but there is nothing out there that meets my needs. Samsung S5 mini with slider -- I'm in.
Hi,
its one year later...
I'm with the same problem. Do you still have a solution?
Other ROMs have issues with camera and BT...
https://productforums.google.com/fo...rce=footer#!msg/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k/LurezyxjAgAJ
First off, sorry if I'm not in the right place - Let me know or move me, its fine by me. This is my first post here...
Backstory: Our company is trying to become more secure(They just blew 30k on Airwatch(MDM Software) and have a full time employee on the phone with him just about every day...) and I'm one of the lower guys on the IT Totem poll but I'm not really worried about them yelling at me for having root, and I can get my E-mails right now but I do know eventually they are going to bring it up and probably make me get rid of it. Xposed has a work around for this, but when I flash Xposed - The app crashes upon opening every time "Inbox" or "Airwatch" Has closed unexpectedly.
At first I thought it was the RomAur I installed because I went that route as it packaged Xposed and saved me a minute and I wanted to try it anyways - So I went back to stock with Root, Airwatch opened fine. So then I just tried to install Xposed and when I booted up it "optimized" all of my Apps, including Airwatch and Inbox(Which is Airwatch's Mail thingy) .
So, I undoubtedly believe its something in Xposed that's causing a corruption in Airwatch so I cannot even open it. I feel pretty good that if I could get it to run with Xposed that either Rootcloak or the Hidewatch Xposed mod's can fix it, but I can't get it to open to even test my theory.
As I said, I'm in IT and I've been flashing phones/rooting/etc for about 6 years but generally never posted because I didn't feel nearly as smart as everyone else here seems on the forums but I am capable and can give logs if you tell me how to - but now I have a problem and I believe with the increase of MDM software out here that I'm not the only one, or there is about to be a lot more like me that have this problem.
So.
1.) Does anyone have an idea how to stop the optimization of an APP through upgrading to the Xposed installer?
2.) An Idea to get Airwatch to a point that it can open?
3.) Something totally ingenious I'm not capable of thinking of?