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Water Damaged Desire, but still loads bootscreen (but stops there)

My wife dropped her phone while getting the youngest out the bath.
She brought it to me and I left it in a warm place to extract any water.
The phone now powers, surprisingly but only gets to the HBOOT menu page, I cant select anything like up / down / power etc, so seems stuck.
I suspect the ROM has been fried, at a minimum. Is the phone recoverable?
Thanks

Strip the whole phone down. (There is a tear down guide with pictures somewhere on these forums for it)
Then clean it/ leave it to try for a few hours and then put it back together and see if it boots up.

Thanks. I dont have the tools to open it and it voids any warranty that 'may' still be available.
Ive left it overnight above my PC's exhaust fan which seems to have worked. Will be trying to boot it soon enough.
If its 'stuck' at the HBOOT screen, what are my options? Seems like the hardware still works but the software may be corrupted.

Its the same as before - stuck on the HBOOT screen. The power button works, it switches on, but even once in the menu on the default which is Fastboot, it doesnt allow me to select that. The power button seems not to work in this menu.

was everything completely dry? best thing was probably not to turn it on for a day or 2.
maybe try stick it in a rice bowl or something for a least 8 hrs.. (rice can absorb water very well).
failing that send it back to htc?

dingdong3000 said:
was everything completely dry? best thing was probably not to turn it on for a day or 2.
maybe try stick it in a rice bowl or something for a least 8 hrs.. (rice can absorb water very well).
failing that send it back to htc?
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I think she had powered it when it was still wet, this is probably where damage could have happened.
I believe it to be dry now - there was little sign of water and the vapour around the screen area is now gone too since sitting over my PC's warmish fan.
Question is, almost forgetting about how the damage occurred, what are my options for getting a new BOOT loader or similar loaded, knowing that the phone does not boot. Can I make a gold card and update the phone, anything else?
Many thanks.

The volume up button has started to work, I can scroll through the options - what now?
Seems if I take the memory card and make a gold card, I may be able to recover the phone or am I missing something?

It seems to be working OK again. Im not sure what I did, I tried 'recovery' a few times without much luck, it hung on the O2 flash screen.
I then got frustrated and was pushing the power button a few times, it vibrated and came back to life, complaining of a low battery.
Its charging now, running as a phone - Ill put the Sim Card in later. The only thing is why it seems to go to the HBOOT menu, even if not prompted at the start ...
Perhaps a reflash is still worth looking at, wanted to get 2.2 on anyways.
Edit - I suspect the vol down button is screwed, hence why it goes to boot screen at start and also it doesnt work when the phone is now on. Hopefully it will be fixed as the phone dries out - perhaps Ill venture opening up the phone to sort it.

Unfortunately I had a similar mishap while on vacation, I was carrying my phone while crossing a stream and slipped and fell down, phone got wet...
After a few days phone would power up and "work" but I noticed a few things that I could not fix:
1) Phone runs very hot - always close to 40 degrees celcius where normal phone is around 30.
2) battery will not last for more the 6 to 8 hours with almost no use. High usage / low usage makes no difference anymore.
3) If turned off battery still dies in about 6 to 8 hours.
4) The worst thing for me was the phone thought the headphone was always plugged in even when it wasn't so it was impossible to get sound out of the normal speakers making the phone unusable as a phone without a headset.
It seems if your Desire has the water sensors red under the battery your warranty is void from what I read on the forum and around the net - HTC will not fix or they will charge you the same price as a new one to fix it.
So I decided to buy a new Desire and now use the old one to test custom roms before putting them onto the other phone. I was afraid to Root before but being I had a toy phone I had nothing to lose anymore and now I am addicted
And as a bonus the Headphone / sound issue disappeared when I applied a new Radio and custom rom so that even works now. Only remaining issue is the poor battery life (replacing battery does not fix the issue).
Just thought I would share my story, I hope you have better luck then me...

schalmers said:
Unfortunately I had a similar mishap while on vacation, I was carrying my phone while crossing a stream and slipped and fell down, phone got wet...
After a few days phone would power up and "work" but I noticed a few things that I could not fix:
1) Phone runs very hot - always close to 40 degrees celcius where normal phone is around 30.
2) battery will not last for more the 6 to 8 hours with almost no use. High usage / low usage makes no difference anymore.
3) If turned off battery still dies in about 6 to 8 hours.
4) The worst thing for me was the phone thought the headphone was always plugged in even when it wasn't so it was impossible to get sound out of the normal speakers making the phone unusable as a phone without a headset.
It seems if your Desire has the water sensors red under the battery your warranty is void from what I read on the forum and around the net - HTC will not fix or they will charge you the same price as a new one to fix it.
So I decided to buy a new Desire and now use the old one to test custom roms before putting them onto the other phone. I was afraid to Root before but being I had a toy phone I had nothing to lose anymore and now I am addicted
And as a bonus the Headphone / sound issue disappeared when I applied a new Radio and custom rom so that even works now. Only remaining issue is the poor battery life (replacing battery does not fix the issue).
Just thought I would share my story, I hope you have better luck then me...
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Thanks for the info. I can see a red 'tag' inside the phone but on the battery itself there is a white sticker, is it either of these?
Ive gone ahead and bought a card reader and also a spare card - hopefully I can extract some value from it.

Chazaxl said:
Thanks for the info. I can see a red 'tag' inside the phone but on the battery itself there is a white sticker, is it either of these?
Ive gone ahead and bought a card reader and also a spare card - hopefully I can extract some value from it.
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Both of those are water detectors.
Sounds like your phone has become water damaged but the battery didn't.
Your phone will now not have a warranty as a result and unless you have some sort of insurance that covers water damage (most don't) then there is nothing you can do.

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Lennyuk said:
Both of those are water detectors.
Sounds like your phone has become water damaged but the battery didn't.
Your phone will now not have a warranty as a result and unless you have some sort of insurance that covers water damage (most don't) then there is nothing you can do.
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Ok, thanks - see pics above :-(

Chazaxl said:
Ok, thanks - see pics above :-(
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yeah its what I thought, the water obviously got onto the phones tag but not the battery. Your lucky as usually when the battery tag goes the battery stops working.
Phones are often programmed these days to stop working when water is detected even when the phone is actually fine (easy way to get more money I guess). So I would be quite happy its still working if I was you

I need to figure out if its the software thats screwed or if its the volume buttons. They partially worked earlier, now nothing, back to boot screen.
Going to try and create a gold card to allow me to upgrade HBOOT and take it from there.
This is one of the first phones, so should be AMOLED screen, less risk for HBOOT upgrade?

easiest and best way to sort it out would be between the two options:
-buy insurance online, wait a few weeks then claim
- try and fix it, then fail miserably and wish you just bought insurance

paprkut said:
easiest and best way to sort it out would be between the two options:
-buy insurance online, wait a few weeks then claim
- try and fix it, then fail miserably and wish you just bought insurance
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Dont sound like good options - ....
Dont want to curse it but its running again, down volume also working.
Ive got some of the updates on a gold card, got an error with it, not sure why but less tempted to fiddle if the phone works as normal.

I got the same problem about a week ago when i cycled and it started raining really hard. so my desire got half drowned because i didn't have a rain jacket.
At first it appear as if my phone would work normally again, because the power buttons didn't work when i wanted..
However, a week later, it feels as if nothing has happened. so keep on praying ;p

Sounds to me you really should let it dry even longer because of the fact its seems to be still coming back to life. Take off the cover, battery, sim and sd card, stick it in a rice bowl or hang it in your pc fan airflow for 1~2 more days.
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Battery Reporting/Phone Dying Suddenly

Update 2: I've had requests for links for the parts I used. I purchased the battery, a back cover, and all the additional accessories they suggested for removal.
Battery:
http://www.witrigs.com/oem-battery-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact
Back cover (this comes in different colors, but the link is for the black one):
http://www.witrigs.com/custom-back-cover-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact-black
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Updating the OP. Thus far the only reliable way that myself and others have fixed their batteries has been by replacing them or having the phone repaired by Sony. Fixing it yourself involves purchasing a replacement from witrigs (or another parts supplier).
Flashing stock roms, custom roms (aosp or cm based), or factory firmware may temporarily give the illusion of being fixed. Battery repair apps don't do anything either (you can test this by 'fixing it', clearing app data and then 'fixing it' again).
I'm back to KitKat levels of battery life, using stock 5.0.2. Here's a recent screenshot for you.
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Original post:
So for the past few weeks my phone has really been acting up. I'll try and make this an organized question/post.
Here's the symptoms:
-Phone drops from 30ish % down to 1%, then powers off and wont turn back on due to low battery.
-Phone occasionally reports fully charged at different levels (such as 80% or 50%), upon reboot, it is listed as 100%.
-Some days I can watch it drop 1% every few seconds once it reaches 35%, literally like it's counting down.
-Other days it just works fine, I can use it to 5% and then charge with no problems.
Phone information:
-Z1 Compact
-Problem persists between ROM flashes and android versions. Have experienced issues on stock 4.4.4, stock 5.0.1, AOSP 4.4.4 and AOSP 5.1.
Really, any sort of help or places to start would be greatly appreciated. I don't even know what to try anymore and I'd really like to avoid trying to replace it (warranty expired already).
Attached a screenshot illustrating it happening. I unplugged my phone last night after charging it to full. Made it to work, put it in airplane mode, turned wifi on. Updated some apps and restarted it. Rebooted to about 10%. Charging again now.

HI There,
i got the same problem with my z1 compact. its all start when upgrade to lolipop...
some say our battery are dying...or got problem. are they ?
downgrade to kitkat, wipe everthing, battery calibration also still the same problem appear...

I've tried the same thing. Wiped data system etc and nothing helped.
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Same problem here. 4.4.4 stock rooted. It started about two weeks ago. I had done nothing except some play store upgrades. Haven't found a solution and I don't even know how to diagnose the problem. Various battery calibrations and/or deleting that battery data file haven't helped. Did a factory reset from recovery (almost accidental swipe while a bit drunk, gah...) - nothing. Battery level drop and shutdown occurs in random situations. Sometimes while taking a picture, sometimes with data on, sometimes off, gps on/off or whatever. Sometimes from 70% to 0, sometimes from 50%. Sometimes I can restart without charging after waiting a while and then it stays of for some time.
Yesterday I just did a reboot myself and when it came back on, the battery had dropped from 70 to 20% and then it stayed like that for some hours. Then I let it run to 0, charged without turning on to 100%. Then, when I turned the phone on, the battery level dropped to about 80% really fast and after that I got 20+ hours until it died again at 55% battery. I do see some small temperature spikes on Gsam battery monitor graph during those sudden drops, but never above 35 degrees Celsius and I don't think overheating is the issue here.
Again, I hadn't flashed any roms, updated android or messing around with the system or system settings before it started. Just normal everyday use, some websurfing, listening to music, taking occasional photos, reading blog feeds, taking notes.
Now I don't know what to do and I would greatly appreciate any help.
Haven't tried software repair yet, but what software could be still left broken?
Should I try unrooting via flashtool (does it lose all traces of root?) and taking it to warranty repair?
Right now the phone is practically unusable.

Hey, did u checked the Service menu Batterie test?
*#*#7378423#*#*
*#*#SERVICE#*#*
What does the test say?

I did check that yesterday and it was good.
And at the moment batt health status is "good, no need to replace it".
(Actual batt uAh: 2407000. Battery gauge at 74%.)
Yesterday after recharging and watching the battery plummet to 83%... It stayed there for some time despite data and GPS being on, using camera and an app. Should have dropped by a couple of % at least during that time.
13+ hours uptime now, very little use at night and at work.
That's what I'm afraid of. If the service test is good and at a glance everything seems to be fine then I won't get any help from warranty.

when test mine also in good condition. but the problem still happen. it kind makes me to conclude possible a battery hardware problem. need to change it, but it aint that cheap...

I've also checked my battery in the service menu. It reports good/healthy with the actual uAh being 2407000. I plan on wiping everything on the phone later today (system, all data, caches) and seeing if that helps at all, but I'm not very hopeful. Like you guys this pretty much just started happening for no discernible reason. Phone doesn't appear to be overheating either. Could the SD card being messing with it somehow? It seems implausible, but at this point I'm willing to try anything.

SOLVED (for me at least)
So I bit the bullet and wiped everything except for my SD card about 2 hours after my last post. Installed the most recent KK version of DstrikerZ1s ROM with the Doomlord v22 kernel. Ran it hard all day till now. Still at 50% and I've rebooted to check and make sure it's accurate multiple times. I'll report back if it happens again, but the performance thus far seems much more consistent than what I had before.

crimson12 said:
So I bit the bullet and wiped everything except for my SD card about 2 hours after my last post. Installed the most recent KK version of DstrikerZ1s ROM with the Doomlord v22 kernel. Ran it hard all day till now. Still at 50% and I've rebooted to check and make sure it's accurate multiple times. I'll report back if it happens again, but the performance thus far seems much more consistent than what I had before.
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So need to format sdcard?
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Yeah, I backed up both my internal storage and SD card and then formatted both.

wow, i have the same problem and i don't want to go back to KK. doees anyone have any solution that keeps lolli on?

I've been having the same problem since February. First it turned off at around 14% (when the warning pops up), but it's already been turning off at 20+ and finally 30-something percent, which wasn't bearable. No amount of wiping or up/downgrading would help so I bit the bullet and got a battery exchange (not directly from Sony who wanted to charge ~160€). Problem is fixed for the time being.
As much as I love this phone, it'll be the last one I get without a user-replacable battery.

Unfortunately my "fix" didn't work forever. I'm back to the same problem. Might as well suffer through it on lollipop. Where did you get the battery replaced?

crimson12 said:
Unfortunately my "fix" didn't work forever. I'm back to the same problem. Might as well suffer through it on lollipop. Where did you get the battery replaced?
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I'm beginning to wonder our battery going to die... Maybe need to change, from my place, Sony center way to expensive need 3rd party battery maybe.. Or other than service center...
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albuah said:
I'm beginning to wonder our battery going to die... Maybe need to change, from my place, Sony center way to expensive need 3rd party battery maybe.. Or other than service center...
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i bought my replacement battery from witrigs and installed it myself. battery life has been good since then.

eumanoid said:
i bought my replacement battery from witrigs and installed it myself. battery life has been good since then.
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So it was relatively easy to do yourself? I'm relatively nervous to try it. Shipping is killer to the states too :/

crimson12 said:
So it was relatively easy to do yourself? I'm relatively nervous to try it. Shipping is killer to the states too :/
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Yeah. It's pretty straight forward. I used my wife's hair dryer as a heat gun and followed witrigs guide. I was surprised to see a 30$ tax on my items though. But thats due to customs so i had ni choice.

need to unscrew 1 skrew only right?
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exactly the same problem only since Lollipop update.
it'll just shut down about 30% battery now, no going into battery saving mode or anything, i'll just be messaging and get "shutting down". Also I've had 53% battery, rebooted and then have 80%ish, its completely messed it all up.
I've factory reset and cycled the battery (run down, charge full etc) more than once. I'm suprised peoples batteries actually need replacing, how can a software update damage the battery?
I remember with a previous rooted samsung phone you could delete a battery data file with root explorer or something, is there a similar non-root way to fix this problem?

First impressions!

This is coming from an IPhone 6s plus
The phone feels amazing on the hands, the speakers sound lound and clear, fingerprint scanner is fast and accurate, the camera is amazing especially the wide angle.
The battery life is average speaking on a first cycle basis and with everything on, Bluetooth,nfc,gps, brightness 100%,always on display, occasional music and video streaming. The screen brightness could be a little higher but overall happy with this phone, it went from 5%-40% during a 17minute charge time so the quick charge 3.0 is amazing plus that extra battery being shipped fixes any concern with the battery life.
No weird issue with backlight bleed, dead pixel or phone getting to hot.
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Awesome mine comes tomorrow can't wait to get it did u enable the app drawer or no

My G5 is getting hot doing the most basic of tasks. Like posting this. Feels like I've been running an intense game but I've done nothing of the sort.

ward24 said:
Awesome mine comes tomorrow can't wait to get it did u enable the app drawer or no
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Didn't find the option only if I enable the easy home so I stopped messing with it
Stocklone said:
My G5 is getting hot doing the most basic of tasks. Like posting this. Feels like I've been running an intense game but I've done nothing of the sort.
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Let it settle and load all your apps it will stop getting hot, I thought the same the first hour of setting it up

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ward24 said:
Awesome mine comes tomorrow can't wait to get it did u enable the app drawer or no
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HtcOnekid said:
Didn't find the option only if I enable the easy home so I stopped messing with it.
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Haven't got the phone (yet),but,from several video reviews I've seen,easy mode is the only access you have to the (stock) app drawer.

I upgraded from a Samsung Galaxy S5 yesterday.
Pros: fast phone, good battery life, premium build and feel, excellent camera both front and rear, loud and robust built in speaker, hi is clean and customizable. Vibrations while typing and unlocking feel solid and premium. IR blaster is powerful and effective. Not a whole lot of bloat pre-installed on it
Cons: Visual voicemail is T-Mobile bloatware instead of being built into the phone app like it should be on Marshmallow. The back lock/unlock/power button will take some getting used to. Since this is my first device with USB-C I only have one cable in the house at the moment.

greysonofusa said:
I upgraded from a Samsung Galaxy S5 yesterday.
Pros: fast phone, good battery life, premium build and feel, excellent camera both front and rear, loud and robust built in speaker, hi is clean and customizable. Vibrations while typing and unlocking feel solid and premium. IR blaster is powerful and effective. Not a whole lot of bloat pre-installed on it
Cons: Visual voicemail is T-Mobile bloatware instead of being built into the phone app like it should be on Marshmallow. The back lock/unlock/power button will take some getting used to. Since this is my first device with USB-C I only have one cable in the house at the moment.
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FYI you can also turn on the screen by double tapping on it.

I love it except I've already been through 2 of them due to light bleed in the bottom right corner of the screen. I want to keep it because I really enjoy the phone but the light bleed bothers me knowing it is there.

Came from the LG v10 and G4 b4 that I thought the smaller screen would bother me but it's so fast and clear I love it I've been killin benchmark apps like I never seen before. Also the camera is nice the pop up option makes nice pics.

Easy Home is Crap, I couldnt find any other way of enabling the app drawer through the stock launcher so I installed Nova Launcher and everything looks right now. I switched from the V10, the only regret that I have is stepping down to 32gb internal storage from 64gb in the V10. But I still have my 200gb SD card from my v10. My local T-Mobile Store only had the gold color, but it is not an obnoxious gold color. I love the G5 it is soo much snappier than the v10, although no local stores had any cases for this device so I turned to Amazon. I have a TPU clear case, glass screen protector, and an additional USB-C cable so I dont have to move the one from the house to my car charger.

awesome
i got my g5 2 days ago. first i want to say the build quality is sweet. i like the mixture of the plastic and metal on the back. i love the weight of this phone. i take a lot of pics and the more weight the phone has the steadier you can keep your hand. the finger print is very fast. it's almost instantaneous. it doesnt work at first boot though. you have to use your pin/password first then after that you can use your fingerprint. why they decided to do that i dont know. the camera on this thing is amazing. the ois is very good and the focusing is much faster than any lg phone i've had. the first day i had this phone the phone got hot. i dont know if it was the initial break in time or what. i did have to install a bunch of apps and i was playing with it for a long time. it killed my battery life. when i got the phone it had 50% life. i took it down to 15% then charged it back to full. the next cycle is when my phone was pretty warm. the next battery cycle only lasted about 12 hours total. at around 12% i recharged it again to full overnight. when i woke up i restarted the phone with a full battery. it's been 6 hours since then and the phone has not gotten warm once. at 95% i had 45min of SOT. i had to plug my phone in to pc to do some things so it went back to 100% battery. i will see today how much SOT i get from a full drain. if that 5% use was any indication i think it's going to be around 6 hours SOT. that's what i got on my note 5. i didnt like how lg got rid of the app drawer so i installed google now launcher to get it back. i hope we get root on this thing. there are some other tweaks i want to do for even better battery life. not having twrp i can live without. so far i am happy with my pruchase of this g5. i'm looking forward to seeing if my happiness keeps up for the next couple months. i'm hoping this holds me over til the next nexus phone comes out.

freebee269 said:
i got my g5 2 days ago. first i want to say the build quality is sweet. i like the mixture of the plastic and metal on the back. i love the weight of this phone. i take a lot of pics and the more weight the phone has the steadier you can keep your hand. the finger print is very fast. it's almost instantaneous. it doesnt work at first boot though. you have to use your pin/password first then after that you can use your fingerprint. why they decided to do that i dont know. the camera on this thing is amazing. the ois is very good and the focusing is much faster than any lg phone i've had. the first day i had this phone the phone got hot. i dont know if it was the initial break in time or what. i did have to install a bunch of apps and i was playing with it for a long time. it killed my battery life. when i got the phone it had 50% life. i took it down to 15% then charged it back to full. the next cycle is when my phone was pretty warm. the next battery cycle only lasted about 12 hours total. at around 12% i recharged it again to full overnight. when i woke up i restarted the phone with a full battery. it's been 6 hours since then and the phone has not gotten warm once. at 95% i had 45min of SOT. i had to plug my phone in to pc to do some things so it went back to 100% battery. i will see today how much SOT i get from a full drain. if that 5% use was any indication i think it's going to be around 6 hours SOT. that's what i got on my note 5. i didnt like how lg got rid of the app drawer so i installed google now launcher to get it back. i hope we get root on this thing. there are some other tweaks i want to do for even better battery life. not having twrp i can live without. so far i am happy with my pruchase of this g5. i'm looking forward to seeing if my happiness keeps up for the next couple months. i'm hoping this holds me over til the next nexus phone comes out.
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I like Smart Settings too. I have it turning off wifi as soon as I leave my house and plan on setting it up to launch google play music too. it automatically changes from ringer on to vibrate... I know there's programs that do this for you on other phones but having it built in is cool. This is a useful add-in unlike Slowsungs TouchJiz stuff that is not useful... do I need Gear VR draining resources even though I may never use it... no, then why is it there, Same with Samsung Pay (which I use but others don't) and about 20 other things. LG got it right this time. The G6 or the V11 will just improve on this platform. :good: :laugh:

dillmanr3 said:
Easy Home is Crap, I couldnt find any other way of enabling the app drawer through the stock launcher so I installed Nova Launcher and everything looks right now.charge.
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Here's how you get the "normal" launcher back:
http://androidforums.com/threads/no-app-drawer-option-on-lg-g5-solved.1015945/#post-7263187

The G5 in the two days I've owned I've owned it is easily in contention for the worst phone I've ever had. Granted LG has some awesome software concepts but that's about where any praise I can give this phone ends. This phone gets hot far to fast even during normal use. Not including it gets ridiciously hot just sitting on the charger untouched. If I load The Walking Dead Road to Survival the battery vanishes. Even as I type this my phone is on my car charger and its using almost as much power and the charger is giving it. If I try and play Pandora while driving it actually loses battery even while charging. Also if I try and play ANY video after having the TWD game open it stutters like I'm watching it on a potatoe until I close all programs through the task manager. For as many problems as I was having with my Note 5 I wish I wouldnt have used my jump for this garbage "flagship" phone. I can't wait for the month to be over so I can burn another jump to go back to a Samsung. I highly doubt I'll ever buy an LG again.

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The G5 in the two days I've owned I've owned it is easily in contention for the worst phone I've ever had. Granted LG has some awesome software concepts but that's about where any praise I can give this phone ends. This phone gets hot far to fast even during normal use. Not including it gets ridiciously hot just sitting on the charger untouched. If I load The Walking Dead Road to Survival the battery vanishes. Even as I type this my phone is on my car charger and its using almost as much power and the charger is giving it. If I try and play Pandora while driving it actually loses battery even while charging. Also if I try and play ANY video after having the TWD game open it stutters like I'm watching it on a potatoe until I close all programs through the task manager. For as many problems as I was having with my Note 5 I wish I wouldnt have used my jump for this garbage "flagship" phone. I can't wait for the month to be over so I can burn another jump to go back to a Samsung. I highly doubt I'll ever buy an LG again.
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You either have a hardware issue (they happen unfortunately) or you have a rogue app eating up your CPU cycles. Time to troubleshoot. That's definitely not normal and it's most definitely atypical.
I'd start with a factory reset. Don't install anything else. Don't do a thing. See if it still happens. If it does I'd return it for a replacement. If it doesn't happen then I'd start updating apps and installing apps one by one.

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You either have a hardware issue (they happen unfortunately) or you have a rogue app eating up your CPU cycles. Time to troubleshoot. That's definitely not normal and it's most definitely atypical.
I'd start with a factory reset. Don't install anything else. Don't do a thing. See if it still happens. If it does I'd return it for a replacement. If it doesn't happen then I'd start updating apps and installing apps one by one.
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The phone was already factory reset on Saturday when I attempted to return the phone and grab an S7 Edge. All the apps were previously installed on my Note 5 without issue. And unfortunately if it is a hardware issue how would I actually prove that to try and have T-Mobile switch it out?

And there's my Gsam showing that my WiFi has been a drain on my battery even though its been turned off the entire time
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The phone was already factory reset on Saturday when I attempted to return the phone and grab an S7 Edge. All the apps were previously installed on my Note 5 without issue. And unfortunately if it is a hardware issue how would I actually prove that to try and have T-Mobile switch it out?
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And there's my Gsam showing that my WiFi has been a drain on my battery even though its been turned off the entire time
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The Gsam and the heat from the device should be enough for them to swap it out. They generally don't ask many questions. I recently had upgraded my wife to a Galaxy S6. It had an issue with sending receiving group texts. Got another one by simply showing them the texts.

I'll have to stop by after work and talk to them. I'm just really put off by how bad my particular phone is. I do hope it's just a hardware issue and not a systemic problem with LG I love concepts behind this phone
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Fixed dreaded bootloop I think!!!

I do believe I fixed my bootloop caused by the CPU. I need some feedback though. Anyone want to download Cpu Temperature from google play and report back with their IDLE temp? I have not done any extensive testing yet such as stress tests etc since I'm still letting my battery charge up. But would like to know what your IDLE temps are compared to mine. I was faced with the dreaded bootloop that happened literally out of nowhere. After doing this fix I have had my phone sitting and charging for about 30 minutes now as where before I couldn't even reach the red Verizon boot screen without keeping it in the freezer for 10 minutes and then powering on only to be able to use it for two minutes. My IDLE temp with screen on at 20% brightness is 29c

phonepie said:
I do believe I fixed my bootloop caused by the CPU. I need some feedback though. Anyone want to download Cpu Temperature from google play and report back with their IDLE temp? I have not done any extensive testing yet such as stress tests etc since I'm still letting my battery charge up. But would like to know what your IDLE temps are compared to mine. I was faced with the dreaded bootloop that happened literally out of nowhere. After doing this fix I have had my phone sitting and charging for about 30 minutes now as where before I couldn't even reach the red Verizon boot screen without keeping it in the freezer for 10 minutes and then powering on only to be able to use it for two minutes. My IDLE temp with screen on at 20% brightness is 29c
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To add to the above I then downloaded StabilityTest (ROOT optional) from the google play store to stress test the CPU and ran the classic test for exactly five minutes and then switched directly back to Cpu Temerature at the CPU temp was at 43c so if anyone could also run that test for five minutes on the classic test and report back with their CPU temp I'd appreciate that too.

phonepie said:
To add to the above I then downloaded StabilityTest (ROOT optional) from the google play store to stress test the CPU and ran the classic test for exactly five minutes and then switched directly back to Cpu Temerature at the CPU temp was at 43c so if anyone could also run that test for five minutes on the classic test and report back with their CPU temp I'd appreciate that too.
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Just an update, Has been a few hours now and phone is still working after playing angry birds, taking pictures and videos, using facebook and messenger, watching youtube 1080 60fps, and keeping screen at 100% brightness my average IDLE CPU temp is hovering around 35-37c

phonepie said:
Just an update, Has been a few hours now and phone is still working after playing angry birds, taking pictures and videos, using facebook and messenger, watching youtube 1080 60fps, and keeping screen at 100% brightness my average IDLE CPU temp is hovering around 35-37c
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How in the world did you fix this?

HamBone625 said:
How in the world did you fix this?
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(attempt the following fix at your own risk I am not responsible for any damages to your phone or property or anyones else's property)
Checking back in. Turns out to be a partial fix. Under normal phone use it works fine. The problem comes when you do a factory reset. The way I fixed mine was I took the phone apart, Took the motherboard out and on the center back of the mother board that faces towards the screen is a piece of thermal tape (very thin) I then took some polished copper and hammered it out to about the thickness of half of a dime. and then cleaned and polished the copper again. (make sure it is pure copper not a penny as most these days aren't 100% copper) Then use some arctic silver 5 thermal paste or even better a NON conductive thermal paste... Take the thin thermal tape off of the processor on the motherboard. Then apply thermal paste on the processor covering entire processor about half the thickness of a dime. Next take your copper which should be at least the size of the processor and stick it onto the processor. Then put everything back together. If your phone is in the middle of a factory reset put it in the freezer between two paper towels for 10 minutes then turn it on and complete factory reset with it still laying in freezer between paper towels. I can't guarantee this will work for others but this is what worked for me. The phone just still gets too hot during a factory reset. I got the idea for this from the following video on youtube and then added my own little spin on it in places.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QijWruGXqX8

Thank you. No one answered me in the International thread, but it looks like you did the same thing I did and factory reset f* everything up for you too...
Anyway, do you have a blue spot on screen due to pressure?
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Unfortunately this didn't work for me wish it did though..

I got the bootloop after owning my G4 for about 18 months. Tried all the software fixes, heating, cooling etc, and got precisely nowhere. However, dismantling the phone, and heating the CPU with a heat gun on low power, followed by a bit of pressure, then reassembling with some thermal grease on the core, has resurrected the phone with no data loss. (Still going to buy a new phone though).
Only problems are - I constantly get a message saying "Unfortunately, Apps Update has stopped." This pops up every time I use the phone, change a screen, open an app etc. and I cannot find a way to fix it.
- LG backup seems to have stopped working properly as well - it won't perform an update, although it does prepare one, and the buttons have decided to label themselves in dots (presumably Korean or something) rather than English scrip, so it is difficult to see what each button does. However, I have backed up all my data through LG Bridge.
- battery life seems awful - but this seems to be a Marshmallow problem, rather than the phone.
- I'm getting a new one because they're cheap, and also I'll have a UK version so I can root, unlock etc. etc.

Same miserable story here. But I don't know how to disassemble phones so I sent it to a friend and he told me its a general problem with the LG G series where the CPU soldering detaches from the mainboard. Every few days I have to sent it back to fix it again, such a pain in the ***...
Mine was as good as a new so I won't buy any LG high-end product after this one ever again.
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You know if you contact lg you can get an replacement even though if you have no warranty

ANDROID2468 said:
You know if you contact lg you can get an replacement even though if you have no warranty
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is this something you've had success with personally?
if so could you let us know the number you called you initiate this?
Thanks.

Check this out. Fill out the form on the right. They'll send you a survey and get more info about your case.
http://www.girardgibbs.com/lg-g4-bootloop-class-action-lawsuit/

Just had mine which was out of warranty fixed by LG free after I contacted them, so if you own a bootlooping VS986, there's still hope for it.
ANDROID2468 said:
You know if you contact lg you can get an replacement even though if you have no warranty
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mrmacatac said:
is this something you've had success with personally?
if so could you let us know the number you called you initiate this?
Thanks.
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I have the LG G4 vs986 so I went to the Verizon store. Try calling this number 1 (800) 243-0000

And what did they do to resolve this issue?
ANDROID2468 said:
I have the LG G4 vs986 so I went to the Verizon store
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divineBliss said:
And what did they do to resolve this issue?
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They sent me a new phone and I shipped my old one

[Review] FNF Ifive Mini 4s tablet

I have now had my FNF Ifive Mini 4s, that i ordered from China, since March 7th (Shipping took only 14 days) so i think it is time for a review
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Key features
Android 6.0
7.85" 2048*1536 display
RK3288 Quad Core CPU at 1.8Ghz
Mail-T764 GPU
2 GB DDR3 RAM
32 GB Internal storage
4800mAh Li-Po battery
SD-Card slot
802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2.4Ghz+5Ghz WIFI
Bluetooth 4.0
Disadvantages
Batterylife is only around 2 hours of screen on time with maximum brightness.
Bottom speakers instead of front-facing.
Design and build quality
I really like the bezels on this device. They are nice and small on the sides and a little bigger on the top and bottom. This makes using the tablet for media consumption really comfortable, since there is just enough space for your thumbs on each side of the tablet when it is tilted to the side.
The front of the tablet is all glass. The frame is made of metal and the back has glass in the top and bottom and plastic inbetween. This combined makes an overall sturdy tablet. The tablet has no flex at all when trying to bend it or press down on different spots, so this makes me confident it wont break on normal use.
The buttons are much better than on other tablets at this price point. They dont wobble too much and I am confident they wont fall out or get stuck. The MicroSD-slot works nicely and so does the 3.5mm headphone jack.
The dimentions are 230 x 169 x 7 mm.
Display and screen
The display on this tablet was what made me buy it in the first place. A 2048*1536 display on a 150 USD tablet seemed crazy, so i bought it to see for myself. The display is truly great and very enjoyable to look at, even for long periods of time. In the time I have had it, I have seen severeal movies on it and even read an e-book. Since the screen is 7.85" it has a pixel density of 326.11 PPI
Android 6.0.1
The tablet comes with stock Android 6.0.1. It comes with no bloatware at all which I appreciate alot and it is updated regularly. In the time I have had it, I have gotten 3 updates, which fixed the small amounts of problems it had when I first recieved it. The ROM runs smoothly with no stutters at all thanks to the RK3288 CPU and Mail-T764 GPU.
Camera
The camera is not that good, only 8MP in the rear and 2MP in thefront. I can not really see a use for a camera in a tablet anyway, since I think it is too big for that, so this does not matter to me.
Benchmarks
Antutu
Basemark OS II
Battery Life
When the brightness is set to max and the tablet is used normally I get around 2 hours of screen on time. When the screen is set to the minimum brightness I get around 5-6 hours of screen on time. The battery life is okay, but I think they should have made the device a little thicker and added a little more battery. With my use I have to charge it either every night or every other night.
Conclusion
I think the FNF Ifive Mini 4s definently is worth its price. It is a great tablet for watching movies and Youtube videos, browsing the internet and playing games (but dont expect a high framerate on titles like Grand Theft Auto). I would definently recommend buying this tablet. It is simply an amazing tablet concidering its price of only approximately 150 USD.
I rate it 8.5 out of 10
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EDIT: I just updated to 1.0.8-W, which should work on all devices, new as old, and this seems to boost perfomance nicely. To update, use this tutorial, but use this tool and img instead of the ones mentioned inside the tutorial Thanks to RVA84 for letting me know this in the comments.

Thanks for the review. Shame it has such poor battery life, but a battery pack should make that not so much of a problem. What is battery life like when it is sitting idle? Does it support automatic power off? Nothing more annoying than a tablet with a flat battery
Also, what do you use to protect it and stand it up? There doesn't seem to be much in the way of accessories for this tablet.

stephendt0 said:
Thanks for the review. Shame it has such poor battery life, but a battery pack should make that not so much of a problem. What is battery life like when it is sitting idle? Does it support automatic power off? Nothing more annoying than a tablet with a flat battery
Also, what do you use to protect it and stand it up? There doesn't seem to be much in the way of accessories for this tablet.
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It loses around 2-4% battery per day in idle. What do you mean by automatic power off? I do not have anything to protect it or stand it up. I usually sit with it in my hands in bed

UnknownDK said:
It loses around 2-4% battery per day in idle. What do you mean by automatic power off? I do not have anything to protect it or stand it up. I usually sit with it in my hands in bed
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Thanks. On MTK tablets and devices, there is a feature to power off the device automatically. It's usually in the settings. If it's not there, it doesn't support it.

stephendt0 said:
Thanks. On MTK tablets and devices, there is a feature to power off the device automatically. It's usually in the settings. If it's not there, it doesn't support it.
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Well, I can not find it.

UnknownDK said:
Well, I can not find it.
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Not too surprising considering it uses a rockchip SOC. Either way not a big deal, I usually use tasker to put it on flight mode at night

I just got this, and I found that when gaming on it (like the new Office Space idle game) the battery was getting destroyed in a huge way. We're not talking 2 hours of life at that point, it dropped almost 20% in about 10 minutes, crazy high usage.
I enabled dev mode and saw that the 'force gpu rendering for 2d' option was enabled, I disabled it and battery life has gone way up even when using games. I'm going to run some tests to determine the overall difference, but other than the battery life I agree this is a pretty great tablet.
I honestly still have my Nexus 7 2013 and still use it daily, but I can see myself switching to this pretty quickly.

Let me ask a follow up question to other owners:
My battery life is simply horrific, as in if I'm in a game with brightness halfway, I lose several percentage per minute in some cases, and the back gets noticeably warm to the touch. I have a few screenshots of the battery usage showing it drop from 60% to under 30% like nothing, but everything shows up as "miscellaneous", and it doesn't seem like there's any actual power consumption tracking going on. I installed a few different battery tracking apps, all of them claim to not be able to connect to whatever the Android stock service is that's necessary to calculate per app battery consumption, is that just how the 4s works or is there something actually broken on mine?
It's bad to the point that I can sit for 20 minutes using it continuously, bouncing between Clash of Clans and CATS and then have to consider plugging it in for a charge. My Nexus 7 or phone (Axon 7) go for hours with the same type of usage no problem :\

Sphexi said:
Let me ask a follow up question to other owners:
My battery life is simply horrific, as in if I'm in a game with brightness halfway, I lose several percentage per minute in some cases, and the back gets noticeably warm to the touch. I have a few screenshots of the battery usage showing it drop from 60% to under 30% like nothing, but everything shows up as "miscellaneous", and it doesn't seem like there's any actual power consumption tracking going on. I installed a few different battery tracking apps, all of them claim to not be able to connect to whatever the Android stock service is that's necessary to calculate per app battery consumption, is that just how the 4s works or is there something actually broken on mine?
It's bad to the point that I can sit for 20 minutes using it continuously, bouncing between Clash of Clans and CATS and then have to consider plugging it in for a charge. My Nexus 7 or phone (Axon 7) go for hours with the same type of usage no problem :\
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I'm having the same problem with mine. Trying to figure out what the issue is. Just ticked off Force GPU rendering as per Sphexi's recommendation. We'll see if that helps.

I just bought a iFIve Mini 4s. When it goes idle it basically dies. I have to push the Start button for several seconds and it reboots. Is that normal? It cannot be! Is there a setting or something I'm overlooking?

Courtaud said:
I just bought a iFIve Mini 4s. When it goes idle it basically dies. I have to push the Start button for several seconds and it reboots. Is that normal? It cannot be! Is there a setting or something I'm overlooking?
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I think you should contact your seller and tell them your problem. I think your device is malfunctioning.

stephendt0 said:
Thanks for the review. Shame it has such poor battery life, but a battery pack should make that not so much of a problem. What is battery life like when it is sitting idle?
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For you and anyone else complaining about the poor battery life/battery drain:
1. First - The battery is 6700mAh and not 4800mAh as declared everywhere on web so that's should be enough for everyday usage (currently I got 4-5 SOT for web browsing and lite gaming)
2. Upgrade to the latest firmware version 1.06.
3. After upgrade wipe the system cache.
4. Disable ''Keep Wi-Fi during sleep''.
5. Turn on Android's developer mode and disable animations:
-Go to Settings > About, then tap on Build number several times to enable Android developer mode
-Go to Settings > Developer options, and scroll down to Window animation scale, Transition animation scale, and Animator duration scale.
-Tap on each of the animation options and turn them off.
6. For more speed, install a lightweight launcher (for this tablet I prefer Nova Launcher)
Hope this helps.

Hi.
Anyone can suggest a case for this tablet?
One that doesn't cover any button.
Thanks a lot!

julioforo said:
Hi.
Anyone can suggest a case for this tablet?
One that doesn't cover any button.
Thanks a lot!
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looking for this tok hope someone can help
i saw some bouetooth keyboard case on i think amazon search for fnf ifive keyboard case i think it is dedicated case for this device

I just got mine. Currently about $100 from gearbest and I'm sure other Chinese e-commerce sites.
I also own the Amazon Fire 8 HD tablet for those curious about a comparison. Software wise its so much better to just have vanilla Android vs the whole Fire skin and effort required to get a regular Android launcher setup. The Fire Tablet does fit seemlessly into the whole Amazon ecosystem though which can be quite nice if you use many or most of the Amazon services like Kindle, video, music and shopping. But hardware wise is where the real difference lie. Night and day. I also own the last model Amazon Fire 7 HDX. I mention that because I was shocked when I received my new Fire 8 HD. It was light, plastic-y and had an unforgettable display with much less resolution than the HDX. The buttons were loose and wiggled. Everything just screamed dirt cheap to me. Of course it was dirt cheap price wise compared to the HDX. The ifive Mini 4S is almost the complete opposite. Great screen, solid feel and a fast processor. All for just a few bucks more than the Fire 8 HD. I'd recommend it over the Amazon offering for practically anyone who wants an actual Android tablet. If you're looking for a media device then I'd say that you'll have to choose quality versus ease of integration with Amazon products and services.
Just posted the following over at TechTablets. I found that the latest version of the Google Camera app works with the front camera.
Just a quick comment. I just received my tablet today. I remembered from your YouTube review that the front camera hung the tablet if you took a picture. I agree, generally a tablet isn't a device for pictures but thought I'd see if it still was an issue. It still hangs the tablet but...
I've always preferred the Google Camera app simply because it was consistent across devices. Ever since I used it for the panorama photo feature on my Galaxy S5 phone I've been using it on everything. It takes decent photos on this tablet. Better than with the default app at least. But more importantly it doesn't hang the tablet if you use the front camera. I went to apk mirror to find the most recent arm (not arm64) architecture version that works on Android 6 since I knew the current version was just for Nougat (Android 7+) and I found the following. Name as it appears on apk mirror then link because I'm not sure if links here will work.
Google Camera 3.2.045 (2821762-30) (arm) (Android 6.0+)
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...mera-3-2-045-2821762-30-android-apk-download/
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Suggestions about case, protection and custom rom for FNF Ifive Mini 4S?

UnknownDK said:
I just bought a iFIve Mini 4s. When it goes idle it basically dies. I have to push the Start button for several seconds and it reboots. Is that normal? It cannot be! Is there a setting or something I'm overlooking? I think you should contact your seller and tell them your problem. I think your device is malfunctioning.
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SADLY I am having the same issue. I bought this tablet for my wife and I thought she was being silly and overly dramatic since we know the battery life is not great. However I was using it and it was just on my chest resting for a few minutes with 61% charge and then I picked it up again to continue reading and the power button would not turn it back on. Generally speaking HOLDING the tablet power button for 5+ secs resets the device and it reboots back to 61% charge. This is really sad as I generally like the tablet compared to anything else in its price range, but this is wholly frustrating and hope that this is not indicative of the BRAND or overall build quality.

UnknownDK said:
I think you should contact your seller and tell them your problem. I think your device is malfunctioning.
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nickel911 said:
SADLY I am having the same issue. I bought this tablet for my wife and I thought she was being silly and overly dramatic since we know the battery life is not great. However I was using it and it was just on my chest resting for a few minutes with 61% charge and then I picked it up again to continue reading and the power button would not turn it back on. Generally speaking HOLDING the tablet power button for 5+ secs resets the device and it reboots back to 61% charge. This is really sad as I generally like the tablet compared to anything else in its price range, but this is wholly frustrating and hope that this is not indicative of the BRAND or overall build quality.
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I HAVE THIS issue as well. When the issue happens, I have tried messing with the power button.... clicking several times and I have been able to recover it a few times but not always. I don't think it is a battery issue. Maybe a hardware problem with the power switch itself? I bought mine from GEARBEST. I am going to reach out to them and see if they will do anything. Another issue I have is clicking the HOME button seems to produce a SPEAKER based clicking sound. I wonder if it is related to the HEADPHONE static issue we all are experiencing.

Was about to buy this tablet, instead of Xiaomi MiPad which is much more expensive. But the battery issues which are reported by multiple users is deal breaker
Wondering if it is more like software issues which can be fixed by some updates or more about the battery itself.

salocin411 said:
I HAVE THIS issue as well. When the issue happens, I have tried messing with the power button.... clicking several times and I have been able to recover it a few times but not always. I don't think it is a battery issue. Maybe a hardware problem with the power switch itself? I bought mine from GEARBEST. I am going to reach out to them and see if they will do anything. Another issue I have is clicking the HOME button seems to produce a SPEAKER based clicking sound. I wonder if it is related to the HEADPHONE static issue we all are experiencing.
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Mine have the same problem. This is ridículos. The tablet shut down and still losing battery. Did anyone figure out how to solve this issue? I also bought mine from Gearbest, did anyone receive an answer from them? I just got mine tablet yesterday and already notice this problem.