Questions about GN2 to stock Android - Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II

I've had a Sprint GN2 since release day and am currently running touchwiz with android 4.4.2. I never rooted it but it certainly lags a lot now compared to what it used to. I'm a few months away from my upgrade and am trying to decide what I will upgrade to so I thought it was now a good time to mess around with my Note 2 and see how I like different things. I'll follow the guides on this thread to root and load custom roms but most of the discussions about roms are from months ago (not surprising).
I'm wondering what is the best Note 2 rom for a stock android experience and what people's thoughts are on using stock android on the Note 2? I barely use my SPen so I don't really care about not having that supported. After watching the I/O keynote yesterday I'm starting to feel like I'm missing out big time using touchwiz. I remember the big deal about project butter and how awesome I thought my Note 2 was when I got it. The lag now is pretty bad even when doing some basic things. I'm guessing in a few months I'll be debating between the Note 4, LGG3 or Nexus 6 (if one is announced).
Thanks.

I'm using CyanogenMod also liquid smooth is Pretty good idk about the issues as I'm using the note primarily to watch movies at work to preserve my nexus 5 battery

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[Question] Change phone?

hi i got a nexus like 2 weeks ago and is it worth exchanging it to a note or s3? im a bit confused is nexus like out of the league compared to note and s3? pls help me decide
im currently running paranoid android 2.16 and having fun with it but in my case i want the best phone there is on the galaxy side
If you want to be "up to date", get the s3. The GN has been out for almost a year so I understand your confusion.
If you want the best Android experience with tons of exclusive features, stay with the GN.. It's like the ultimate Android device.
I used to be under the impression that our phone was outdated and I looked to upgrade but nothing feels better than someone walking up to me saying, "wow, what phone is that?"
Honestly, if you already have the GN, stick with it. No need to upgrade an already awesome device.
Thank you for helping me figure out which is the best phone i think ill stick with the Gnex since your right about people asking what phone are we using and i did a little research on you comment " It's like the ultimate Android device." i just found out that Gnex is the only device that is using the original jellybean really thank you for clearing up my mind
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If you want to be "up to date", get the s3. The GN has been out for almost a year so I understand your confusion.
If you want the best Android experience with tons of exclusive features, stay with the GN.. It's like the ultimate Android device.
I used to be under the impression that our phone was outdated and I looked to upgrade but nothing feels better than someone walking up to me saying, "wow, what phone is that?"
Honestly, if you already have the GN, stick with it. No need to upgrade an already awesome device.
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I recently got a Gnex as well. I didn't own an S3, but have played with a couple for extended periods. I didn't have the GNex at the time, but now that I got it, I think the vanilla android is amazing, and I wouldn't change for anything atm.
stay where you are. Ive had the s3 & ditched it for the nexus. next time to change is when the new gnex is announced.
trust me
If you get a S3 just because it is the latest thing then it won't be the latest for long - the S4 will be out early next year. Actually the "latest thing" is actually the Note 2. I passed on my awesome Note to my with 5 weeks ago to get the even more awsomener GNex. The thing about a Nexus is it can be a long term commitment as it will receive speedy updates and wont be forgotten whilst the hardware is still capable – look at the Nexus S getting JB. I don’t think I will bother with a new Android phone until the 2013 Nexus although I do fancy picking up a cheap WP8 device in spring when they slash the prices of all the unsold stock. For me to keep the same phone for more than 3-4 months is unheard of, I have had 9 in 24 months, so I must really love the Gnex!
actually this answers a lot the main reason i want a latest phone cause of support, the last android i got was the moto cliq and after 4 months support for it went no where so i was kinda disappointed and moved to the iphone and now i got the Gnex well im gonna stick with Gnex reading a good feed back from you guys :victory:
finbaar said:
If you get a S3 just because it is the latest thing then it won't be the latest for long - the S4 will be out early next year. Actually the "latest thing" is actually the Note 2. I passed on my awesome Note to my with 5 weeks ago to get the even more awsomener GNex. The thing about a Nexus is it can be a long term commitment as it will receive speedy updates and wont be forgotten whilst the hardware is still capable – look at the Nexus S getting JB. I don’t think I will bother with a new Android phone until the 2013 Nexus although I do fancy picking up a cheap WP8 device in spring when they slash the prices of all the unsold stock. For me to keep the same phone for more than 3-4 months is unheard of, I have had 9 in 24 months, so I must really love the Gnex!
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I'd stay with the GNex too, if you are interested in custom ROMs then the S3 wouldn't be good for you because of bad support from Samsung for their Exynos chipset. Some CyanogenMod developers have already ditched devices with Exynos due to the reason I wrote.
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im really impressed i compared the Gnex against s3 and note the Gnex runs smoother it could be cause of the project butter but wow it beats the quadcore of s3 to dust :highfive:

Any fears over future development with the Note II?

I am using a HTC One X I received for free but have an upgrade burning in my pocket. I am weighing my options right now between a Nexus 4, LG Optimus G, and a Samsung Note II for AT&T. I never considered the Note II until recently when a co-worker got his. I read reviews and watched vids on various phones and everyone makes the phone out to be like its the size of Texas. After using it for a bit, pocketing it, playing with it, etc the size is not an issue unless you have some seriously dainty hands. While the screen quality is amazing on my HOX that massive screen on the Note is calling me like a Siren. If I get one I don't think I will be able to go down to a smaller screen once I am used to it
Anyways, my question is regarding future development as I am always flashing ROMs. I read last month that the Cyanogen team will no longer support Samsung devices based on the Exynos chipset. Has this changed or what is the future outlook for ROM development on this phone? Is Samsung being more proactive about releasing documentation, code, drivers, etc to help the dev community? Will CM still come to the Note II just not officially from the CM team? Any thoughts?
I need me some AOSP on my phones so if development is in question I might pass.
Check out this link, things look promising!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...enmod-support-first-cm10-nightly-already-out/
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logicrulez said:
Check out this link, things look promising!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...enmod-support-first-cm10-nightly-already-out/
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Glad to see this! Thanks for posting the link.
High fives all around with this news. I'd say go for it. This is the first device I've used my upgrade for in a long time and not regretting it one bit. But in the future I probably won't be able to get another device with at least 5 inches of screen.
Awesome! Before I came back to this thread, I was browsing the international Note forums and saw that a nightly of CM 10 was released.
I am such a needy person as I want the cool features Samsung brings with the S Pen, pop out video, multitasking with multi-view, etc but with speedy updates and without Touchwiz, carrier bloat, etc.
:Sigh
This would be amazing if it happens:
International(ish) Note 2 w/ AT&T LTE support
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889855
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High fives all around with this news. I'd say go for it. This is the first device I've used my upgrade for in a long time and not regretting it one bit. But in the future I probably won't be able to get another device with at least 5 inches of screen.
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Agreed. I hadn't upgraded myself in forever. The S2 was on another line.
Also great news to know its CM supported. Means AOKP may make an appearance... loved that ROM on my S2.
I wouldn't want cyanogenmod or aokp or any aosp based rom's on the note ii. Its heavily customized around the s-spen and you'd lose support for that if going with an aosp rom. The note ii is about being different, trying something different. The s-pen stylus for sure and all that goes with it, but also multi view to make use if that big beautiful display. Samsung lately has been good about toning down and streamlining touchwiz, its not nearly as visually intrusive or resource hogging as senseui. Its done tastefully. They do have some nice semi proprietary features like s beam. As long as they release updatea for the note ii now and then i am happy to stick with custom rom's based on the official rom. Just debloated, tweaked, streamlined, enhanced but at its core android with touchwiz and full hardware support, no strange little quirks or hacked drivers or something not quite working right, etc. The fun that comes with running an aosp based rom. The note 2 is top notch in performance and features and will have lots of community support for some time imho. I know several Android enthusiasts who have chosen the note 2 over other high end models. Itvsays something about the phone.
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glitchsys said:
I wouldn't want cyanogenmod or aokp or any aosp based rom's on the note ii. Its heavily customized around the s-spen and you'd lose support for that if going with an aosp rom. The note ii is about being different, trying something different. The s-pen stylus for sure and all that goes with it, but also multi view to make use if that big beautiful display. Samsung lately has been good about toning down and streamlining touchwiz, its not nearly as visually intrusive or resource hogging as senseui. Its done tastefully. They do have some nice semi proprietary features like s beam. As long as they release updatea for the note ii now and then i am happy to stick with custom rom's based on the official rom. Just debloated, tweaked, streamlined, enhanced but at its core android with touchwiz and full hardware support, no strange little quirks or hacked drivers or something not quite working right, etc. The fun that comes with running an aosp based rom. The note 2 is top notch in performance and features and will have lots of community support for some time imho. I know several Android enthusiasts who have chosen the note 2 over other high end models. Itvsays something about the phone.
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+1 AOKP was fun on the GS II, didn't like it on my One X. But for the Note, a major reason I bought it was all the S-Pen and TouchWiz stuff. I'll be sticking to stock based unless some of the pop up and side by side stuff makes its way to AOSP ROMs.
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glitchsys said:
I wouldn't want cyanogenmod or aokp or any aosp based rom's on the note ii. Its heavily customized around the s-spen and you'd lose support for that if going with an aosp rom. The note ii is about being different, trying something different. The s-pen stylus for sure and all that goes with it, but also multi view to make use if that big beautiful display. Samsung lately has been good about toning down and streamlining touchwiz, its not nearly as visually intrusive or resource hogging as senseui. Its done tastefully. They do have some nice semi proprietary features like s beam. As long as they release updatea for the note ii now and then i am happy to stick with custom rom's based on the official rom. Just debloated, tweaked, streamlined, enhanced but at its core android with touchwiz and full hardware support, no strange little quirks or hacked drivers or something not quite working right, etc. The fun that comes with running an aosp based rom. The note 2 is top notch in performance and features and will have lots of community support for some time imho. I know several Android enthusiasts who have chosen the note 2 over other high end models. Itvsays something about the phone.
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quarlow said:
+1 AOKP was fun on the GS II, didn't like it on my One X. But for the Note, a major reason I bought it was all the S-Pen and TouchWiz stuff. I'll be sticking to stock based unless some of the pop up and side by side stuff makes its way to AOSP ROMs.
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Agree with the both of you. I just switched from a One X with CM10 to the Note II and both sentiments ring true. I miss some things from AOSP (mainly the lock screen) but Touch Wiz on this does the job perfectly, and it's needed for the S-Pen features which I am using more and more as I get comfortable with it. I've rooted to remove bloat and flashed the custom kernel available to mildly OC and UV it and that's about all I think I'll do. I'll probably try out Scrosler's ROM as I had it on my HOX a few times and was always happy with his work. And I definitely don't think I can go to anything smaller than 5'' after this, two months ago I would of thought I was crazy for thinking that. However this phone is so much more comfortable to wield for me than the original Note was and I love this thing.
avus_m3 said:
I am using a HTC One X I received for free but have an upgrade burning in my pocket. I am weighing my options right now between a Nexus 4, LG Optimus G, and a Samsung Note II for AT&T. I never considered the Note II until recently when a co-worker got his. I read reviews and watched vids on various phones and everyone makes the phone out to be like its the size of Texas. After using it for a bit, pocketing it, playing with it, etc the size is not an issue unless you have some seriously dainty hands. While the screen quality is amazing on my HOX that massive screen on the Note is calling me like a Siren. If I get one I don't think I will be able to go down to a smaller screen once I am used to it
Anyways, my question is regarding future development as I am always flashing ROMs. I read last month that the Cyanogen team will no longer support Samsung devices based on the Exynos chipset. Has this changed or what is the future outlook for ROM development on this phone? Is Samsung being more proactive about releasing documentation, code, drivers, etc to help the dev community? Will CM still come to the Note II just not officially from the CM team? Any thoughts?
I need me some AOSP on my phones so if development is in question I might pass.
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I honestly don't see any problems like your wondering about.
There is already developer interest..and I don't see interest stopping...
Now...if your just wanting a Nexus for the pushed upgrades that's one thing...but I for one would take a wait & see attitude about the LG...They have a very lack luster approach to updating anything on their lines.
As to the screen size...your quite right...going back to anything smaller would be a hindrance once you get used to the bigger screen...( for me at least it is )and when you do a side by side comparison...it clearly shows there is no comparison to it...You may find a little more detail with the smaller screens...but...a 1080P movie still looks exceptional on it. I love the looks given by guys with smaller sized phones take a look at mine then back to theirs...They usually make some dumb statement about needing a back pack to carry it around...lol...lol...lol..
I really like my Note...it is special...and when folks see you using it...they always ask to see it..and I have never seen any other phone that will cause this reaction from folks...
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glitchsys said:
I wouldn't want cyanogenmod or aokp or any aosp based rom's on the note ii. Its heavily customized around the s-spen and you'd lose support for that if going with an aosp rom. The note ii is about being different, trying something different. The s-pen stylus for sure and all that goes with it, but also multi view to make use if that big beautiful display. Samsung lately has been good about toning down and streamlining touchwiz, its not nearly as visually intrusive or resource hogging as senseui. Its done tastefully. They do have some nice semi proprietary features like s beam. As long as they release updatea for the note ii now and then i am happy to stick with custom rom's based on the official rom. Just debloated, tweaked, streamlined, enhanced but at its core android with touchwiz and full hardware support, no strange little quirks or hacked drivers or something not quite working right, etc. The fun that comes with running an aosp based rom. The note 2 is top notch in performance and features and will have lots of community support for some time imho. I know several Android enthusiasts who have chosen the note 2 over other high end models. Itvsays something about the phone.
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Totally agree.
"Touchwiz" is no longer bad on the Note 2. I WILL NOT be ROMing my Note 2. Ever. Things simply can't get faster and for the first time AOSP wouldn't add as many features as it would cause you to lose. The spen is bloody brilliant and the overall touchwiz experience on the note 2 is stellar. I'm on XDA with this device to hear about accessories and to help those that need Note 2 help.
My ROMing days are over as long as I have the Note 2 (probably Note 3,4,etc) as it's simply not needed anymore. Touchwiz brings too much to the table and is too feature rich/smooth to lose. 6h 45m battery life with 24h unplugged on LTE and 20% remaining? Man roms can't improve that and if they did, I wouldn't use or need it. Don't like ATT bloat? Go into the built in application manager un settings and disable anything you don't like or want. It's like it's not even there.
Dang I love this phone.
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avus_m3 said:
Anyways, my question is regarding future development as I am always flashing ROMs. I read last month that the Cyanogen team will no longer support Samsung devices based on the Exynos chipset. Has this changed or what is the future outlook for ROM development on this phone? Is Samsung being more proactive about releasing documentation, code, drivers, etc to help the dev community? Will CM still come to the Note II just not officially from the CM team? Any thoughts?
I need me some AOSP on my phones so if development is in question I might pass.
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hmm
Honesty I'm little worried that development isn't going to shine for ATT version.
The reason I feel that way.
Being on sprint EVO , EVO3D , GS2 and Note2 their development was rocking week into release...heck weeks before release. Lots of developers stepped up with rom preview threads etc forums had great vibe.
ATT GN2 development doesn't appear to have strong development base.
If it wasn't for scrosler are development sub forum would still be a ghost town.
The bad news is that he returned his GN2 went with different device on Verizon.
Hopefully some Devs from GS3 upgrade to Note2 time will tell.
sling said:
hmm
Honesty I'm little worried that development isn't going to shine for ATT version.
The reason I feel that way.
Being on sprint EVO , EVO3D , GS2 and Note2 their development was rocking week into release...heck weeks before release. Lots of developers stepped up with rom preview threads etc forums had great vibe.
ATT GN2 development doesn't appear to have strong development base.
If it wasn't for scrosler are development sub forum would still be a ghost town.
The bad news is that he returned his GN2 went with different device on Verizon.
Hopefully some Devs from GS3 upgrade to Note2 time will tell.
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Word. :crying:
Ive been rocking the GS2 for almost 2yrs. Rooted within a week and will never like a stock device unless its aokp or cm (AOSP). I've been using PA for months now. My GN2 is supposed to arrive tomorrow and of course I wanted to root it but dont like dealing with all the bugs and instability that I experienced with the GS2. It was a slow show for the i777 as well for a while then it picked up really quick so I hope the same happens for the i317 only faster :good:
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Word. :crying:
Ive been rocking the GS2 for almost 2yrs. Rooted within a week and will never like a stock device unless its aokp or cm (AOSP). I've been using PA for months now. My GN2 is supposed to arrive tomorrow and of course I wanted to root it but dont like dealing with all the bugs and instability that I experienced with the GS2. It was a slow show for the i777 as well for a while then it picked up really quick so I hope the same happens for the i317 only faster :good:
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Right on.
You will be stoked on GN2 its a sweet device.
I didn't realize how different it would be moving to ATT device.....Forums have a East Coast - West coast feel.
Sprints development side of the pond had a couple head developers that took control with lots of How to threads Video demos etc.
Tars were put together fast , all safety nets were in place in a couple days
I just need to get use to my new playground Sprint dev forum days are over.
But hey, my data Speed is 100% better so its worth the move.
Let's hope we get a lot of leaks quickly like how our International model brethens are getting.
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Let's hope we get a lot of leaks quickly like how our International model brethens are getting.
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it's great that samsung starts to sell similar models with same cpu to the world, like iphone.
developer in the world can coop with each other. gs2 and Gs3 is a bad example.
I am not scared this is the best phone around.
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I am on a stock based debloated ROM right now and it is beastly. I am not sure why you guys are worried about AT&T
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Well, the SGN2 is running so well that I don't see what the custom ROMs can add to it at this moment!
I have replaced the Touchwiz UI with the ADW EX launcher + Circle launcher to fully customize my screens to my liking.
Now I have the best of both- full Samsung's cool features, including S-Pen features, and my style screens and customization.
I will monitor the Dev section for a while before I decide to root the phone or not.
This phone is definitely the king of all Android smartphones for now.
if samsung abandons this device for the galaxy s4 or whatever next year and drags their feet on releasing/leaking updates, the developers will move on to something else. a lot of us here upgrade to new phones at least once a year, especially if development is an issue

S4 from a S3?

I have been stoked with my i9300 now for almost a year (Running custom OMEGA ROM 4.1.2) and am considering the new S4.
Of course it goes without saying that i fully intend on running a custom ROM on that too, but just wondering if i could hear from anyone that has recently gone from S3 to S4 and would like to share any tips or thoughts. In particular in relation to the custom ROM/rooting matter.
Cheers
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I have been stoked with my i9300 now for almost a year (Running custom OMEGA ROM 4.1.2) and am considering the new S4.
Of course it goes without saying that i fully intend on running a custom ROM on that too, but just wondering if i could hear from anyone that has recently gone from S3 to S4 and would like to share any tips or thoughts. In particular in relation to the custom ROM/rooting matter.
Cheers
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I have had all the variants of the Galaxy S devices from the S1 to the S4.... I have ran just about every custom rom there is available for each of them.... I used the S3 the longest and was very impressed with the evolution of the devices...I have done about every mod you can do to the S3 and loved the style and the performance overall...Comparing it the the latest and greatest S4 I'm glad I upgraded.. The screen is amazing and once I started running CM 10.1 the speed and snappiness are a huge improvement over the S3... I have been running Cm 10.1 nightly's since I got mine in the mail and already I have fewer bugs than I ever did on the S3.... I normally don't run CM however roms are in short supply...I'm very impressed with the stability that CM offers already and would recommend it to anyone on the SGH-M919...To answer your question I would highly recommend you upgrade to the S4.....
P.S. The larger battery isn't just for show I get great battery life and I'm a heavy user!
s4 is bigger and faster than s3. nothing else, i think.
use 9300 almost one year
i also upgraded from the i9300, there is quite a bit of improvement -
1. screen is way better
2. camera way better
3. although I haven't tried every new feature yet, but I'm now using the air view feature quite often (the finger hovering)
X. temporarily cures my new-phonitis, prognosis is good for another year.
Lets just say that the S4 is definitely not worse than the S3, and nearly everything is a bit better, with an extra feature here or there. Take for example, the Camera app. It's much improved with more features - hands down it is probably the best camera app for a smartphone. The question is really if it's worth the upgrade. If you can manage to sell your old S3 to fund for the S4 (and don't have to add too much extra out-of-pocket), then why not upgrade? If you like the latest and greatest, trying out all the new features and hardware with custom ROMs and MODs, why not? If you are a regular consumer who's not into any of that stuff I just mention, then probably you should stick with the S3.
I've also gone S2 -> S3 -> S4. So far, I'm mixed on it. The screen is much nicer, and the additional Touchwiz features are useless since I disable them (lag) and they're only in stock apps which I rarely use. The main reason I can see to upgrade is the camera - it's FAR improved. But other than a nicer screen, maybe a little speed (not really noticeable if you have your S3 tweaked well) and the camera it's mostly the same. I got mine for free, but if I had paid significantly for it I'd have to admit to myself it was for the latest and greatest, but not for a particularly good reason. And I'm a huge early adopter.
Went from s3 to note 2 to s4 I think Im going back to the note 2...s4 is good but I've told my friends its not worth the extra money to upgrade to a s4..Honestly the screen is nice but it's not a huge jump from 720 to 1080, also I've gotten really bad battery life but then again I'm not running any roms or anything. Either way unless your due for a upgrade I dont think its worth the money going from the note 2 to s4 would cost me 300 extra I'd rather wait for a bigger jump.
As mentioned, if you're paying outright $629 for the phone it isn't worth it in my opinion unless $ is not an issue for you. The benifits obvious would be slightly better camera (s3 is already great), slightly bigger screen (you wont even notice), 1080p (not much different to me), quadcore (on custom roms and kernel, this may not matter as much), and LTE. Other features are just pluses but you may not use as much as you'd think. S4 IMO is a step up not a big jump from the s3.
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Came from s3. The screen alone makes it worth the money imo. But check it out in person if you need to be sold!
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Better camera
Multi window
I am happy upgrader
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I came from the S3 being as I suck with technology I just run the phones stock
so just going by stock I must say that the S4 is much better I just love the overall feel, look of the phone better screen, camera, faster
I got the gs3 initially as a phone I could keep for years and be good with, but now I am thinking the gs4 is that phone. 1080p screen won't be changing any time soon, I like the size, and it has lte. So I'm thinking of upgrading to the gs4, and then chilling with that for at least 4 years or more. I'm not a switch all the time type of person as long as what I have can take advantage of what's available.
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s4 is bigger and faster than s3. nothing else, i think.
use 9300 almost one year
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I am just curious .... i was pretty sure the S4 has some cool built-in features (for example in the camera features) that none of the S3 4.2.2 ROM builds have seemed to have.
Or am i perhaps imagining this?
I'd do the S3
S3 is the choice
I did the same....
In April of this year I bought the s3 and in June I bought the s4... I no regrets or complaints on the s4... I'm always getting bugged by friends telling me are you getting s5 next week...
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I actually have moved onto the S4 from the S3. The S3 was only about 6 months old before i decided to get the S4. Formerly loyal to iPhone until the iPhone 3. Later moved onto HTC variants and never really liked Samsung devices. After the death of my One S, by impulse, purchased an S3. Wonderful phone but the lag was noticeable. After using a S4, instantly fell in love with it. The display is just amazing, the design is a bit better (slight changes from S3, but feels better to hold). Snapdragon 600 (enough said). After switching to Apex launcher, all the transitions and animations were lag free and smooth. A month later with the S4, it still runs as if i just took it out of the box. We all know that the S3 had rather ugly accessories, but the new cases that are out for the S4 have better design aesthetics. I would totally recommend switching to the S4 is you're financially stable and have the desire to purchase a new device.
I have a question for S3 / S4 users.
When you access your RAM tab in Task Manager, how much memory are you generally using?
On my S3 i am almost always using around 700+ of my 828MB. Even when i clear the memory I am still using around 650MB or so.
Is this normal?
And i am keen to know how much memory the S4 users are using.
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[Q] Galaxy Note 2 to Stock Android Question

I originally posted this in the General thread but thought it better here. Thanks.
I've had a Sprint GN2 since release day and am currently running touchwiz with android 4.4.2. I never rooted it but it certainly lags a lot now compared to what it used to. I'm a few months away from my upgrade and am trying to decide what I will upgrade to so I thought it was now a good time to mess around with my Note 2 and see how I like different things. I'll follow the guides on this thread to root and load custom roms but most of the discussions about roms are from months ago (not surprising).
I'm wondering what is the best Note 2 rom for a stock android experience and what people's thoughts are on using stock android on the Note 2? I barely use my SPen so I don't really care about not having that supported. After watching the I/O keynote yesterday I'm starting to feel like I'm missing out big time using touchwiz. I remember the big deal about project butter and how awesome I thought my Note 2 was when I got it. The lag now is pretty bad even when doing some basic things. I'm guessing in a few months I'll be debating between the Note 4, LGG3 or Nexus 6 (if one is announced).
Thanks.
ks-man said:
I originally posted this in the General thread but thought it better here. Thanks.
I've had a Sprint GN2 since release day and am currently running touchwiz with android 4.4.2. I never rooted it but it certainly lags a lot now compared to what it used to. I'm a few months away from my upgrade and am trying to decide what I will upgrade to so I thought it was now a good time to mess around with my Note 2 and see how I like different things. I'll follow the guides on this thread to root and load custom roms but most of the discussions about roms are from months ago (not surprising).
I'm wondering what is the best Note 2 rom for a stock android experience and what people's thoughts are on using stock android on the Note 2? I barely use my SPen so I don't really care about not having that supported. After watching the I/O keynote yesterday I'm starting to feel like I'm missing out big time using touchwiz. I remember the big deal about project butter and how awesome I thought my Note 2 was when I got it. The lag now is pretty bad even when doing some basic things. I'm guessing in a few months I'll be debating between the Note 4, LGG3 or Nexus 6 (if one is announced).
Thanks.
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If you're looking for rooting methods, I've used the unified android toolkit to hasten the process lately. I don't think it is updated to root 4.4.2 though. Might work. And yeah, Touchwiz is laggy as hell. Check out the Development thread for the N II. There's plenty there. In the past week I've used Dirty ROM, Carbon and Liquid Smooth. I had some issues with LS however I don't remember exactly what it was. DU and Carbon are both loaded with features but do keep in mind all of these ROMs are still beta but they are quite stable. Right now I'm using DU. They are all smooth as can be especially with ART turned on. I haven't run into any issues with ART as of yet. I rarely use my S Pen anymore. While it did have its uses, Touchwiz lag was not worth it.

Is our beloved Note 2 dead or dying?

I've noticed over the last few months that Note 2 support has been waning. Every Marshmallow rom that I try on my phone, something doesn't work, GPS, Wifi, NFC, Camera.. etc. Lollipop is ok but has a few bugs in it and the only rom I can keep on my phone without it going south is SLimKat 4.4 (2014). Was just wondering what people's thoughts are on our trusted device and just mainly looking for condolence from the Note 2 family..
I'm just getting started. I've done a lot on this phone in the little time I've had it. There's so much to do on it even if support was to die that wouldn't kill the phone.
haro25 said:
I'm just getting started. I've done a lot on this phone in the little time I've had it. There's so much to do on it even if support was to die that wouldn't kill the phone.
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Nice. The note 2 is a very solid phone.. I've had mine since it came out (i605) and running a 317 att ROM.. Very versatile phone. I'm still using the same battery it came with. Thank you for responding
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There finally an official version of CM13 for the Note 2 t0lte/t0lteatt/t0ltecan http://get.cm/?device=t0lte latest is "cm-13.0-20160508-NIGHTLY-t0lte.zip"
Don't give up on our Note 2!
Some general thoughts after using it, leaving it, and returning to it more than once:
If you already have a Note 2 or can get one free/cheap, there's no obvious reason Note 3/4/5 will be worth hundreds more. Newer Notes have a better camera and screen, and I'd probably enjoy using the S-Pen on physical buttons like those can, but are those $400/$500 reasons?
No matter what the spec-chasers tell you, Note 2 has plenty of speed for today and at least the near future. Look up YouTube speed comparison videos. There's maybe a one- or two-second delay, tops, compared to newer Notes. I can live with that. The difference ain't worth $600 or a new two-year contract.
As for Android OS, just stick with themed KitKat for the Note 2. It's tested, proven, and operates just like newer OS's to the untrained eye, including tons of their features. If you simply must have Doze or another newer-only feature, then yeah, maybe it's time to get a new phone, but again, those features aren't worth letting go of a great phone like our Note 2.
Final word: You mentioned waning updates in Note 2 forums. Have you tried the N7100/N7105 forum lately? It's still a party over there. In the past, we couldn't use those ROMs on North American (LTE) variants of the Note 2, but with the N7100ToNote2LTE Patch , we can now use all the ROMs in that section, if you didn't already know.
Overall, if you like the Note 2, keep liking it! There's no reason to let it go and every reason to keep enjoying it for the foreseeable future.
*\_-the force is strong with jedi-_/*
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I've noticed over the last few months that Note 2 support has been waning. Every Marshmallow rom that I try on my phone, something doesn't work, GPS, Wifi, NFC, Camera.. etc. Lollipop is ok but has a few bugs in it and the only rom I can keep on my phone without it going south is SLimKat 4.4 (2014). Was just wondering what people's thoughts are on our trusted device and just mainly looking for condolence from the Note 2 family..
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for your main line phone as being a N2 , I would use Jedi .
I have a N1 , N2 & N4 . Since my N4 is daily driver those Liquid Roms dont fully function , never did . 4G just gone & ****.
So , Stock N4 , TWRP between whatever , Whenever , cause Liquid is FAST , and cool .
BTW , I just bought another Note 2 just for another battery and Pen. :good:
Post some Emulators , good stands or holders for a Note. I broke my little tripod ( i called it Roger ) LoL.
Spare Phones are more than just a Phone Yo ! One guy was telling me you can stash your spare while your gone , install motion detection ,
Snap , sends message via WiFi from home. I found out who , well What was happening while I was gone to a certain something of mine.
Somebody post a link to that **** , its cool stuff yo.
I gotta 1000000 to do list 2 DAY . LaTeR yO ! ....EnJoY your PS3 controllers :highfive: with Sixaxis from the PlayStore :victory:
PASSWORD
KJOA
all caps , .Knights and Jesters Of Atlanta.
Tikiflame , statrted iit , hahahahahahs.
I hate to bump and old topic, but a member just uploaded a smooth rom to the board and i'm running it on my i605 now, works really well. If there are any note 2 users out there, you should try it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-2/development-n7105/rom-miui-8-gt-n7105-i317-t3496737
I still use Note 2 with 4.3 as a secondary with Note 5 as a main phone. But based on the speed Samsung comes with the new models it's already Antique
With Note 7 fiasco, even Note 5 became a prevoius generation so to speak.
I just installed this...
[ROM][GT-N7100][TW 4.4.4] Eclipse By AC*v9 https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-2/development/rom-eclipse-ac-t3144182
See my post there, #11862 for details.
Very pleased...Thx E-TEAM and AC
Hell no it's not dying
I just got a new note 2 for 80 bucks off eBay.
My note one just died and I loved so much was on nougat.
Now I have a note 2 with marshmallow.. Nougat seems to be fully functional but in still going to give that one a bit to develop before flashing it.
But to answer your question
Hell no it's not dead :good:
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