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Tomorrow I am going to have my Sprint phone flashed to work on the Cricket network. I just need to understand something. Once this is done is it written to the hardware? If I remove and install the OS several times am I going to have to go and pay to have Cricket flashed on it again? $85 is steep. Right now I am using the DCD ROM, but I may try newer roms in the future. Is there a way I can do this myself? Also will this flash allow the GPS, MMS, and internet work?
Thanks
What phone are we talking about here?
the Sprint mogul. has the dcd 3.2.2 Rom
After reading countless posts on the subject I can't seem to find a clearly definitive answer so I'm giving it a shot here...
If you buy a Telus Desire, SIM unlock it and then put in the correct carrier APN information will the phone correctly jump back and forth between EDGE and 3G on Rogers' network? Half the posts I've read said the phone operates exactly as if it were a Rogers branded phone in the first place and everything works perfectly, the other half say the phone can't transmit/receive data once you're outside of Rogers' 3G coverage as it falls back to looking for a slower connection on CDMA instead of EDGE. I really like this phone but I have a Rogers contract and would need the phone to work correctly on all freq bands for it to be viable for me to own one. I also have no desire to take the more extreme route I've read about which is the whole root/flash new rom method.
Also, is there an easy way to update the phone to Froyo without, again, having to go some convoluted route like goldcard/update with WWE patch? In other words, has anyone with a SIM unlocked Telus Desire seen an OTA update to Froyo showing up anywhere? Thanks.
I don't have the Telus Desire but my understanding is: the Telus Desire is willing to connect to voice/SMS over 2G but fails to connect to data. Using an unbranded firmware fixes it.
To address a few points:
- CDMA is irrelevant. Telus phones can either run on their CDMA or HSPA network but none are capable of both. This is because Qualcomm will not allow phone manufacturers to build a phone with their CDMA chip if it also supports North American UMTS frequencies. Thus all the "world phones" sold for US/Canada CDMA networks only support Euro 3G bands.
Boodah said:
I really like this phone but I have a Rogers contract and would need the phone to work correctly on all freq bands for it to be viable for me to own one. I also have no desire to take the more extreme route I've read about which is the whole root/flash new rom method.
Also, is there an easy way to update the phone to Froyo without, again, having to go some convoluted route like goldcard/update with WWE patch? In other words, has anyone with a SIM unlocked Telus Desire seen an OTA update to Froyo showing up anywhere? Thanks.
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There is no Telus Froyo OTA. If you want to shove on the international unbranded Froyo yourself you can do so using the RUU method but you will never be able to root nor return the phone Telus firmware without some very extreme measures.
If you want to be able to revert to Telus stock firmware - which is currently NOT to my knowledge available as a RUU or update.zip - here would be your upgrade route:
- Unrevoked3, root the phone and install latest Clockwork Recovery
- Take a full Nandroid backup from Clockwork Recovery and save that file somewhere safe. It's your only way home.
- Locate on the forums: stock HTC pre-rooted Froyo in update.zip format
- Flash that firmware and now you have both Froyo and the EDGE fix
If you ever need to get back to Telus stock (or as close to stock as possible), you can restore the Nandroid backup. You'll now have a rooted Telus firmware.
What I don't know is:
- Whether there is a way to backup/restore the stock Telus recovery
- Exactly which way a Telus user would unroot.
Your understanding seems to be similar to mine at this point, that Telus specifically blocked whatever it is that it takes for the phone to connect at the slower data speed on Rogers' network. But again, I'm seeing contradictory posts about this which is why I was asking in the hope that someone who DOES have the Telus Desire and is using it on Rogers could confirm it. Thanks for the input, though.
the reson why the telus 2.1 rom does not connect to edge is probably because they never had it set up to do so seeing as telus does not offer any edge/2g network.
For some reason, every time I try to install a sense based rom, it never boots.
I'm fairly new to flashing, and have flashed 4 or 5 aosp roms. Every time I install one of those, it always works correctly, no issues.
I have tried to flash several Sense based roms, such as ARHD 20.1, Insert Coin, and nv, and each time, it never works. I always do a factory wipe beforehand as well as a wipe in the aroma installer. It will go thru the process and install, and then prompt me to reboot, which it does. Once the screen comes back onm however, it just hangs on the white htc screen with the red development text. When i get back to the hboot, itll show nothing for os.
I thought the issue may be that i dont have the latest firmware, but even people that dont have the latest firmware still are able to boot into the rom. Also, I just tried the NV rom which is based off my firmware, and it still gives me the same trouble. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
I'm running an ATT Htc One m8, rooted, unlocked, s-off with sunshine, twrp recovery
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I thought the issue may be that i dont have the latest firmware, but even people that dont have the latest firmware still are able to boot into the rom.
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Give the ROMs about 10 minutes, and I bet they will boot. The extremely long boot time, and lack of boot animation (another symptom of this issue) makes a lot of folks believe the phone is stuck/frozen, when in fact its just taking a reeeeeally long time to boot.
If its true that the ROMs in fact never boot, it might just be an issue with your recovery. fastboot erase cache and either re-install recovery, update to the latest version, or try another recovery (Philz).
Even if the Sense ROMs boot, you might find some serious things are broken with your outdated firmware, such a broken WiFi. So I suggest either update your firmware or stick or ROMs based on your present firmware.
Ok thanks, i will try again. Ive read a bunch of threads about updating my firmware but couldnt find an answer to a question I have about it.
If I upgrade my firmware to the latest WWE 3.28.401.6, will it mess up my ATT settings like the bands? Also, will it erase my internal sd card?
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If I upgrade my firmware to the latest WWE 3.28.401.6, will it mess up my ATT settings like the bands? Also, will it erase my internal sd card?
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Firmware includes the radio baseband, so it may cause issues with reception on AT&T. It seems at least a couple folks have been flashing the 3.28 firmware, but I haven't seen enough reports to give me a warm and cozy feeling. With S-off (which is required to flash the firmware, anyway) you can always revert. But still, basic reception is more important to me than a couple updated features. Personally, I'll probably wait until the 3.x firmware specific to AT&T starts rolling out.
It seems like the M8 is radio agnostic like the Nexus 5 based on my experience.
I am on Rogers and flashed the latest firmware and my LTE works no issues.
The latest firmware is supposed to be EU so technically those North American bands are not supported but it works no issue.
Leads me to believe that the radio does not matter like the N5 where the 820 and 821 radios were interchangeable.
HTC One M8
Thanks redpoint, you were right, I gave it some time and it did come on. You always seem to be the one answering my questions, I appreciate it.
As for the new fw, I was thinking that would happen too from what I've read, I just needed someone more experienced to confirm that. I think I'll wait as well.
Thanks again
Elisha said:
It seems like the M8 is radio agnostic like the Nexus 5 based on my experience.
I am on Rogers and flashed the latest firmware and my LTE works no issues.
The latest firmware is supposed to be EU so technically those North American bands are not supported but it works no issue.
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On the 2.x firmware, some folks in North America (I can speak mostly of AT&T specifically, although there are a lot of network similarities with Rogers) had varying degrees of issues with the "international" firmware. For some, the reception was worse, and others had NO SIGNAL whatsoever. Probably depended on what bands AT&T was using in their specific market.
Can't say whether 3.x firmware is the same way. But in my experience (or at least, reading reports by others here), I would have to disagree this phone is in any way "radio agnostic", at least from a software perspective (as the hardware is common among at least GSM versions, and baseband software is the only difference - but that is a slightly different topic).
So what is the latest firmware I can flash that's been known to work? I've seen that viper one is based off the 2.xx fw so do you know of anyone who's flashed it with att variant without any problems?
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So what is the latest firmware I can flash that's been known to work? I've seen that viper one is based off the 2.xx fw so do you know of anyone who's flashed it with att variant without any problems?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/development/firmware-flashing-panic-attacks-t2824048
No probs.
redpoint73 said:
On the 2.x firmware, some folks in North America (I can speak mostly of AT&T specifically, although there are a lot of network similarities with Rogers) had varying degrees of issues with the "international" firmware. For some, the reception was worse, and others had NO SIGNAL whatsoever. Probably depended on what bands AT&T was using in their specific market.
Can't say whether 3.x firmware is the same way. But in my experience (or at least, reading reports by others here), I would have to disagree this phone is in any way "radio agnostic", at least from a software perspective (as the hardware is common among at least GSM versions, and baseband software is the only difference - but that is a slightly different topic).
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For the record, I have an AT&T model and am using the 3.xxx.xxx.6 firmware with absolutely Zero issues as far as signal. I get the exact same reception I did stock, and Very, Very similar reception to what my old Optimus G did in the same locations.
This indicates that there must be either a difference in hardware revisions (related to how some M8's can be firewater'd, whereas others need Sunshine), Or, the int'l radio firmware may not support the bands that are used on some towers in some locations. I'm leaning toward the former. For the record, my M8 is a "whelp", and I had to pay for Sunshine.
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For the record, I have an AT&T model and am using the 3.xxx.xxx.6 firmware with absolutely Zero issues as far as signal. I get the exact same reception I did stock, and Very, Very similar reception to what my old Optimus G did in the same locations.
This indicates that there must be either a difference in hardware revisions (related to how some M8's can be firewater'd, whereas others need Sunshine), Or, the int'l radio firmware may not support the bands that are used on some towers in some locations. I'm leaning toward the former.
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My guess would be the former as well. Keep mind that AT&T uses five different bands for LTE depending on your market region. Also keep in mind that travelling to another location may result in losing LTE reception (when you otherwise would have LTE on a AT&T specific radio).
Although none of this explains why I've seen some folks get NO SIGNAL whatsoever on AT&T's network after flashing the international firmware (2.x version, haven't seen any complaint yet on 3.28). Even if no LTE, those folks still should have been able to get HSPA and/or GSM since those AT&T bands appear to be supported by EMEA specs. So it leads me to believe there is something else going on aside from just band compatibility. Such as the network not falling back properly to HSPA/GSM.
I certainly don't have an issue if folks want to experiment with the 3.28 firmware on the AT&T network (as long as you know what you are doing, and are aware of the possible issues). Its certainly tempting with the 3.x based custom ROMs coming out. I might even experiment myself if I free up some time. But that spare time is a bit of a premium for me right now; and I also can't really afford ATM to have the possibility of reception issues or no service.
I was able to successfully upgrade my firmware to the 2.xxx by using skull dreams' method. As soon as my rom loaded, however, WiFi and data weren't working. I read through the thread and found that clearing cache and dalvik would fix it, so that's what I did and it worked. (initially I tried to wipe both at the same time, but it gave me errors; further reading showed I needed to wipe cache first and then dalvik).
I would now like to upgrade to the 3.xxx fw so I can install arhd 20.3, but want to know, if I upgrade my fw and it messes up, can I just do the same renaming and putting it on ext SD card to downgrade back to the 2.xx fw?
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I was able to successfully upgrade my firmware to the 2.xxx by using skull dreams' method. As soon as my rom loaded, however, WiFi and data weren't working. I read through the thread and found that clearing cache and dalvik would fix it, so that's what I did and it worked. (initially I tried to wipe both at the same time, but it gave me errors; further reading showed I needed to wipe cache first and then dalvik).
I would now like to upgrade to the 3.xxx fw so I can install arhd 20.3, but want to know, if I upgrade my fw and it messes up, can I just do the same renaming and putting it on ext SD card to downgrade back to the 2.xx fw?
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You could always restore the backup you should be making before you do any mods on your phone. That would be the safest way.
So if I upgrade my fw then restore a backup, I will lose my fw changes?
I make nandroid backups before I do any, so I have approximately 60gb of backups on an external HD, and I always keep 1 or 2 on my internal and external storage
I've been reading around and mostly want to know everything for this for that time when CM becomes stable.
Anyways:
Do you lose Verizon network functionality? By this I really mean, calls, SMS, SMS, voice mail, and 4G LTE.
When converted...just act like it's the US unlocked model when flashing ROMs? Do I need to flash the Verizon radio?
I'm confused...and the final question..
To convert it requires a SuperCID and then RUU flash, right? I've seen Sprint owners do it and one Verizon owner, but the instructions were all very unclear to me.
Thanks!
Answers are on post #4, tested it out after being sure of how to do this. If you're lazy, click here...
I've converted my VZW branded 10 to U.S Unlocked. I am NOT using the phone on Verizon network, so I can only answer part of your questions.
To convert, I changed my cid to SuperCID (22222222) and flashed the latest stock RUU.exe from HTC.com for U.S Unlocked. Pretty simple.
I can't tell you if the phone would work on Verizon network, but I would assume it would with a radio flash to get the basic things you mentioned working, as outlined in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/vzw-how-to-unlocked-model-vzw-t3376743
Haven't yet flashed any non-stock roms, but I can't imagine why this would be a problem. Also the CM thread has some people who flashed the Unlocked firmware on a VZW phone and got CM working.
I haven't and probably will never try, but I see advanced feature breaking after you do this like wifi calling and the like. but ive also heard all that's different is the radio. but theres different settings unlocked and hidden between the two that may give issues also.
so just give it a shot if you really want. the worst that would happen is you would need to switch back to Verizon firmware.
Tested it out...
Tarima said:
I've converted my VZW branded 10 to U.S Unlocked. I am NOT using the phone on Verizon network, so I can only answer part of your questions.
To convert, I changed my cid to SuperCID (22222222) and flashed the latest stock RUU.exe from HTC.com for U.S Unlocked. Pretty simple.
I can't tell you if the phone would work on Verizon network, but I would assume it would with a radio flash to get the basic things you mentioned working, as outlined in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/vzw-how-to-unlocked-model-vzw-t3376743
Haven't yet flashed any non-stock roms, but I can't imagine why this would be a problem. Also the CM thread has some people who flashed the Unlocked firmware on a VZW phone and got CM working.
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I haven't and probably will never try, but I see advanced feature breaking after you do this like wifi calling and the like. but ive also heard all that's different is the radio. but theres different settings unlocked and hidden between the two that may give issues also.
so just give it a shot if you really want. the worst that would happen is you would need to switch back to Verizon firmware.
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Changed my CID to SuperCID (22222222).
Got the latest Unlocked U.S. FW from the HTC Dev site (RUU EXE) and flashed it.
Flashed a Verizon radio in fastboot. (The same one used to make the actual U.S. Unlocked variant work on Verizon)
Flashed TWRP in fastboot.
Formatted my data.
It booted without issue.
Followed this guide (though, on initial boot it showed 4GLTE active BUT no bars (line through them).
After following the guide, I rebooted.
Testing functions:
Calls: Functional and no delays.
SMS: Functional and fast.
MMS: Functional and fast.
Data connection: Functional.
Behavior after reboot: Starts again with the bars crossed off, eventually comes up and working though. Works after that, calls too. Takes about 45 seconds to connect.
Thing to note: It seems as if my signal strength is lessened. Though, this could easily be placebo, weather, etc. It's 1:31AM and I've never paid attention to it before.
Network comes up as 3107 instead of Verizon Wireless.
HTC software updates seem to be broken, it gives a corrupted error. I'm locked/S-OFF, so dunno.
Final deduction: It seems to functional and all, without hiccup most likely. It takes longer to connect than the stock VZW FW does of course, but after the boot it seems fine.
I'm done testing this for now, but if anyone is wondering yeah go for a it. It seems to be fine besides a slower initial connection. Excited for CM to become stable, then I'll play with this some more.
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Changed my CID to SuperCID (22222222).
Got the latest Unlocked U.S. FW from the HTC Dev site (RUU EXE) and flashed it.
Flashed a Verizon radio in fastboot. (The same one used to make the actual U.S. Unlocked variant work on Verizon)
Flashed TWRP in fastboot.
Formatted my data.
It booted without issue.
Followed this guide (though, on initial boot it showed 4GLTE active BUT no bars (line through them).
After following the guide, I rebooted.
Testing functions:
Calls: Functional and no delays.
SMS: Functional and fast.
MMS: Functional and fast.
Data connection: Functional.
Behavior after reboot: Starts again with the bars crossed off, eventually comes up and working though. Works after that, calls too. Takes about 45 seconds to connect.
Thing to note: It seems as if my signal strength is lessened. Though, this could easily be placebo, weather, etc. It's 1:31AM and I've never paid attention to it before.
Network comes up as 3107 instead of Verizon Wireless.
HTC software updates seem to be broken, it gives a corrupted error. I'm locked/S-OFF, so dunno.
Final deduction: It seems to functional and all, without hiccup most likely. It takes longer to connect than the stock VZW FW does of course, but after the boot it seems fine.
I'm done testing this for now, but if anyone is wondering yeah go for a it. It seems to be fine besides a slower initial connection. Excited for CM to become stable, then I'll play with this some more.
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I was the guinea pig for this in regards to Sprint, but you've seem to partially answer a question I had.
I know that the Verizon and US Unlocked use the same model ID, but the Sprint and internal do not. Leaves me wondering if I could just run the RUU for my Sprint phone.
Ariac Konrel said:
Changed my CID to SuperCID (22222222).
Got the latest Unlocked U.S. FW from the HTC Dev site (RUU EXE) and flashed it.
Flashed a Verizon radio in fastboot. (The same one used to make the actual U.S. Unlocked variant work on Verizon)
Flashed TWRP in fastboot.
Formatted my data.
It booted without issue.
Followed this guide (though, on initial boot it showed 4GLTE active BUT no bars (line through them).
After following the guide, I rebooted.
Testing functions:
Calls: Functional and no delays.
SMS: Functional and fast.
MMS: Functional and fast.
Data connection: Functional.
Behavior after reboot: Starts again with the bars crossed off, eventually comes up and working though. Works after that, calls too. Takes about 45 seconds to connect.
Thing to note: It seems as if my signal strength is lessened. Though, this could easily be placebo, weather, etc. It's 1:31AM and I've never paid attention to it before.
Network comes up as 3107 instead of Verizon Wireless.
HTC software updates seem to be broken, it gives a corrupted error. I'm locked/S-OFF, so dunno.
Final deduction: It seems to functional and all, without hiccup most likely. It takes longer to connect than the stock VZW FW does of course, but after the boot it seems fine.
I'm done testing this for now, but if anyone is wondering yeah go for a it. It seems to be fine besides a slower initial connection. Excited for CM to become stable, then I'll play with this some more.
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Does your volte work ? Something you can try is flash Viper10 and select as a verizon model instead of the unlocked version, this will add get you on global mode and I think will fix your signal issues. You list your on Viper10 just dirty flash it again selecting verizon version and give it a try. If it does not help you can always just dirty flash again and go back selecting the unlocked version. Just do a back up before doing this and you will covered if you just want to restore the back up. From my experience this might help just do not try running a custom kernel for the verizon version if you converted to the unlocked as your camera may not work and keep forcing close but you can run a custom kernel for the unlocked if you converted to unlocked. My recommendation would be to run the Elite kernel as I have had really good luck with the Elite kernel on the Htc 10 and I think theirs is what I run well on my Motorola nexus 6 also.
Ariac, regarding OTA software updates on the phone, I think you get that "corrupt" message because you flashed a different radio and twrp. Might be worth flashing the original Unlocked radio/recovery back and see if it at least detects the latest update. If it does, you'll also need to remove superCID to be able to take the update.
I reflashed the RUU yesterday, removed superCID and I was able to take the OTA.
Hi there.
I've got a SH Htc One M8 from someone. All that i know about the phone is that it had Android 4.4.4 version when i got it. I managed to upgrade the software to 5.1. But I read that Htc One M8 can be upgraded to 6.0 version. I couldn't do it (software is up to date message), so i went to a service and asked then to do it. After i got it back, i saw that when i start the phone, a Sprint logo is showing which was something new. After some time i found here updates to 7.1 (crdroid, aosp or aokp....) and they worked fine. (didn't notice the signal problem). But i love very much Sense Home so i wanted to get back to 6.0 stock version. I didn't knew anything about CID, MID, hboot then... After some reading, i managed to install 6.0 version with CID from Sprint. The problem is that my phone is LTE capable (should work over 4G network) but as i can see, it works only with GSM/UMTS Only (I still don't know if i got these right)... Also, I was traveling from Romania to Holland and in Holland i was able to make phone calls but i wasn't able to use mobile data as i could in Romania. Everything works fine if I insert SIM in another phone from Holland so its not the SIM/Carrier. All settings are ok in the HTC (roaming, data in roaming...) so the phone is ok. I out of ideas. I don't know the original CID and MID. The charger that came with this phone was english. Any ideas?
So what you are saying, is that you can't get LTE (4G), but you aren't sure whether you had 4G on the custom ROMs (CRDroid, AOSP, etc.) or not?
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So what you are saying, is that you can't get LTE (4G), but you aren't sure whether you had 4G on the custom ROMs (CRDroid, AOSP, etc.) or not?
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Well, i wrote a lot of details.... The issue is that i couldnt use mobile internet in other european country. And i dont understand why i cant use LTA/CDMA network mode nowhere even if my phone is capable. Could it be the Sprint OS?
I remember having a similar issue and ended up reverting back to sense os myself
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Hi there.
I've got a SH Htc One M8 from someone. All that i know about the phone is that it had Android 4.4.4 version when i got it. I managed to upgrade the software to 5.1. But I read that Htc One M8 can be upgraded to 6.0 version. I couldn't do it (software is up to date message), so i went to a service and asked then to do it. After i got it back, i saw that when i start the phone, a Sprint logo is showing which was something new. After some time i found here updates to 7.1 (crdroid, aosp or aokp....) and they worked fine. (didn't notice the signal problem). But i love very much Sense Home so i wanted to get back to 6.0 stock version. I didn't knew anything about CID, MID, hboot then... After some reading, i managed to install 6.0 version with CID from Sprint. The problem is that my phone is LTE capable (should work over 4G network) but as i can see, it works only with GSM/UMTS Only (I still don't know if i got these right)... Also, I was traveling from Romania to Holland and in Holland i was able to make phone calls but i wasn't able to use mobile data as i could in Romania. Everything works fine if I insert SIM in another phone from Holland so its not the SIM/Carrier. All settings are ok in the HTC (roaming, data in roaming...) so the phone is ok. I out of ideas. I don't know the original CID and MID. The charger that came with this phone was english. Any ideas?
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Try searching for Network Operators, and then create a new APN: T-Mobile US, fast.t-mobile.com, with APN type: default,supl,mms. I deleted and recreated the APN and my mobile data started working again. Creating new seems to work better for me than the default after reset.