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[Q] My Nexus 7 (1st gen) just died. Is it worth getting a 2nd gen Nexus 7?

My first gen Nexus 7 just died on me and its too expensive to fix. Is it worth getting a 2nd gen Nexus 7 or just get a used 1st gen?
My son uses it to watch movies (he's 14). I have a Note 2 and don't ever use the tablet.
What do you guys think?

CayenneGTS said:
My first gen Nexus 7 just died on me and its too expensive to fix. Is it worth getting a 2nd gen Nexus 7 or just get a used 1st gen?
My son uses it to watch movies (he's 14). I have a Note 2 and don't ever use the tablet.
What do you guys think?
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The 2nd gen N7 is a big upgrade over the first one, in my opinion, and we'll worth the money.
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I made that decision a week ago and I'm happy with the 2013. But my old one was doing everything I needed it to. But if its just for your kid to use I'd just get a used 2012 IF you can get a good deal.
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yes do it well worth it

CayenneGTS said:
My first gen Nexus 7 just died on me and its too expensive to fix. Is it worth getting a 2nd gen Nexus 7 or just get a used 1st gen?
My son uses it to watch movies (he's 14). I have a Note 2 and don't ever use the tablet.
What do you guys think?
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How did it die if you don't mind me asking ?
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CayenneGTS said:
My first gen Nexus 7 just died on me and its too expensive to fix. Is it worth getting a 2nd gen Nexus 7 or just get a used 1st gen?
My son uses it to watch movies (he's 14). I have a Note 2 and don't ever use the tablet.
What do you guys think?
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For movie watching, the 2013 gives a noticeably better visual and auditory experience, and it's noticeably lighter and more convenient to hold. A new 2013 vs a used 2012 will almost certainly have better battery life, giving him more movie watching time between charges. A used 2012 will certainly work fine, but he'll notice the difference and likely be excited about a new 2013.
The main reason I'd recommend the 2013, though, is that tablets and smartphones (especially those without removable batteries) are generally not made to last. A desktop computer will last LONG after it's technologically obsolete, a quality laptop should give you 5-8 years without crapping out on you, but the likelihood of a tablet or smartphone dying on you in a few years is much higher. It's subjected to rougher conditions and isn't designed for maintenance. Buying a device that may be nearly 1 1/2 years old isn't worth it unless you get a very good deal.
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dottat said:
How did it die if you don't mind me asking ?
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It just turned off one day while copying some files to it and wouldn't come back on. I took it to a repair shop after they "checked" it - I have no idea what they actually did as they kept it for over a week, they said its too expensive to fix. Too expensive as in more than $75.
Thanks for the feedback everyone else. I'll just hold off on getting a tablet for now. My son inherited an almost 2 year old Nexus phone from his older brother and he'll use that for now.
Have any of you considered any other tablet other than the Nexus 7? I can get a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8" tablet using my airmiles, but wonder how that compares to a Nexus 7 other than the obvious size difference.
The resolution and pixel density on the Samsung aren't as good as the Nexus 7. I wonder what the user experience is like though. Are those spec differences that much noticeable?

CayenneGTS said:
It just turned off one day while copying some files to it and wouldn't come back on. I took it to a repair shop after they "checked" it - I have no idea what they actually did as they kept it for over a week, they said its too expensive to fix. Too expensive as in more than $75.
Thanks for the feedback everyone else. I'll just hold off on getting a tablet for now. My son inherited an almost 2 year old Nexus phone from his older brother and he'll use that for now.
Have any of you considered any other tablet other than the Nexus 7? I can get a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8" tablet using my airmiles, but wonder how that compares to a Nexus 7 other than the obvious size difference.
The resolution and pixel density on the Samsung aren't as good as the Nexus 7. I wonder what the user experience is like though. Are those spec differences that much noticeable?
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Did you pop the back cover off and make sure it's not the loose battery cable which is a known issue ?
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dottat said:
Did you pop the back cover off and make sure it's not the loose battery cable which is a known issue ?
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This is why I love this forum. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try this tonight when I get home. So the cover just pops off easily? And if the cable is is loose, its just a matter of pushing it back on to whatever its connecting to?

CayenneGTS said:
This is why I love this forum. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try this tonight when I get home. So the cover just pops off easily? And if the cable is is loose, its just a matter of pushing it back on to whatever its connecting to?
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Yes. I've fixed a couple like this. Back cover pops loose with a guitar pick or a credit card. Battery connectors pop loose and the fix is adding a piece of tape. One of the ones I fixed the battery itself was loose and I had to add tape to stop it from flopping around and making itself loose.
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dottat said:
Yes. I've fixed a couple like this. Back cover pops loose with a guitar pick or a credit card. Battery connectors pop loose and the fix is adding a piece of tape. One of the ones I fixed the battery itself was loose and I had to add tape to stop it from flopping around and making itself loose.
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Thanks man! I'll try this tonight.

Watch this video so you know how to take it apart, I replaced the screen on my old n7, was really easy and I'm no expert!! .... but if all else fails the new one is way better and you wouldn't regret buying one
Link: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygut0Z4vxBE
Good luck

CayenneGTS said:
It just turned off one day while copying some files to it and wouldn't come back on. I took it to a repair shop after they "checked" it - I have no idea what they actually did as they kept it for over a week, they said its too expensive to fix. Too expensive as in more than $75.
Thanks for the feedback everyone else. I'll just hold off on getting a tablet for now. My son inherited an almost 2 year old Nexus phone from his older brother and he'll use that for now.
Have any of you considered any other tablet other than the Nexus 7? I can get a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8" tablet using my airmiles, but wonder how that compares to a Nexus 7 other than the obvious size difference.
The resolution and pixel density on the Samsung aren't as good as the Nexus 7. I wonder what the user experience is like though. Are those spec differences that much noticeable?
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I just looked at the the two samsung tablets, I forget their exact names. Note something and the TAB 3.
I liked the more colorful interface, and the wider aspect ratio. One of them has a nice thin bezel all the way around. I like the wider aspect ratio because it gives it a bit more screen height in landscape mode. Which I don't use very much except when something doesn't render very well.
What I didn't like was that they are on older versions of Android, and there is less development for them. And then there is the price difference.
The Note tablet has the S stylus and the cool things it can do, but I know from my Note 2 phone I don't use it.
For me I would have felt like I was paying more and getting less. But I realize that is based on my fairly specific criteria. If I didn't have the Google N7 one of those tablets would be what I would have.
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[Q] Buy Nexus 7, wait for Nexus 8 or buy Dell Venue 8?

With all the screen issues, I'm very hesitant to buy a Nexus 7. Actually, I'd buy two; one for my wife and one for me. But, there seems to be no fix in sight for the all the screen issues. I'd rather have an 8 inch screen than a 7 inch screen, but I have no idea whether Google will produce a Nexus 8 in the next six months or so. And, Dell has their Venue 8 available for sale. It's screen resolution may not be as good as the Nexus, and it uses a dual core instead of a quad-core CPU. But, for web surfing, email, watching videos, it seems to do pretty well.
Wondering what forum members thoughts are. Will probably wait a little while and see if there are any negative reports on the Dell in the next few weeks. (All existing buyer reviews are pretty positive.)

Why do you need 8 inch? You should either buy 7 inch or 10+inch if you ask me, anything more than 7 inch is NOT portable, if you want a multimedia device to use at home don't buy 7 inch tablet. I don't have any screen issues, i think you should give more thought on what you need.

I have no idea why so many people think Google is going to make a nexus 8 when there is a nexus 7. They're not going to make a tablet from 5 to 10 just to satisfy every person who wants an obscure sized tablet. If Google ever makes 3rd nexus tablet choice it'll be larger than the 10 not in between 7 and 10.
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It's a hit or miss. Why not go to your most trusted retailer and test a couple out then pick the best screen you can find.
I don't have any issues with my unit.

Not sure what "screen issues" OP is referring to. Been using mine everyday for little over a week with no probs.

Bought one at Sams' Club last night and the screen has no issues.

Dakura said:
Why do you need 8 inch? You should either buy 7 inch or 10+inch if you ask me, anything more than 7 inch is NOT portable, if you want a multimedia device to use at home don't buy 7 inch tablet. I don't have any screen issues, i think you should give more thought on what you need.
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I can only guess that you don't know the physical size of the 8 inch is the same as the 7 inch, there's less screen border on the front.

Wubbz said:
I have no idea why so many people think Google is going to make a nexus 8 when there is a nexus 7. They're not going to make a tablet from 5 to 10 just to satisfy every person who wants an obscure sized tablet. If Google ever makes 3rd nexus tablet choice it'll be larger than the 10 not in between 7 and 10.
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I guess people think there will be Nexus 8 because of the pic released by Google a few months ago. It was quickly photoshop'd to a Nexus 7 after the roar on the net. Since Google actually took a picture of someone using what appeared to be a Nexus 8, a number of people, including me, expected Google to release a Nexus 8 sometime.

almosteuro said:
Not sure what "screen issues" OP is referring to. Been using mine everyday for little over a week with no probs.
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There's a nine page thread entitled Potential Touch Screen Fix. This forum is full of Nexus 7 2nd gen touch screen problems. It looks a hardware grounding issue. Some people are on their fourth and fifth units and still having the problems.
I'm glad your's has worked well for one week and another poster's has worked well for one day, but this seems to be a hit and miss issue. Plus, many people notice the problem after having had the unit a while.

dulber said:
It's a hit or miss. Why not go to your most trusted retailer and test a couple out then pick the best screen you can find.
I don't have any issues with my unit.
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That seems to be the only real option. At least buying locally means you won't have to mail the unit back if its defective. You only have to return it to the store.
Unless, you want the additional geography of an 8 inch screen. I guess waiting seems to be the best bet.

dmkozak said:
There's a nine page thread entitled Potential Touch Screen Fix. This forum is full of Nexus 7 2nd gen touch screen problems. It looks a hardware grounding issue. Some people are on their fourth and fifth units and still having the problems.
I'm glad your's has worked well for one week and another poster's has worked well for one day, but this seems to be a hit and miss issue. Plus, many people notice the problem after having had the unit a while.
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Gotcha, I guess I will just cross my fingers and hope that I don't experience any of the same issues. I will go ahead and look that thread up though, to at least familiarize myself with them in case they do arise. Thanks!
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I have had 2 with screen issues. The first one was extremely bad. 3 spots that didn't register touches practically at all. And the second one had touch issues and rebooting when the tablet was in a case. I was very disappointed. I am going to get a hp slate 7 extreme that runs the tegra 4. I play games often and the tegra 4 beats the snapdragon in gaming. The 1 gig of ram is still fine for the hp since kitkat is going to be running on it. The screen resolution is lower than the 7 v2 but it's still better than 720hd. The 7 v2 was my first choice but I feel that I gave Nexus 2 chances with their product and they failed.

Certainly don't wish anyone difficulties with their 7. In fact, the more positive current sales turn out to be, the more likely Asus has fixed these issues during manufacturing.
My wife and I have had a pair of Nexus 4 phones for over a year, and both are performing flawlessly. I guess we're looking for the same kind of reliability with a 7-8 inch tablet.
I'd love for Google to come out with a Nexus 8, like in the "old" screen shot. And, seeing what happens in the next few weeks seems like the safe bet.
Neither of us is a gamer, so we don't need the speed gamers require.

Mine made in August 2013, totally fine.
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The new Nexus 7 is my favorite device ever, and I use it hours a day even after months of having it. I'm actually glad I didn't get the LTE version because then it would never leave my side (tempting though, since TMobile offers free data for tablets).
From what I've seen on my Dell Venue 11, Windows 8 is nowhere near as easy to use or as useful as Android. It actually pisses me off sometimes, for well-known issues like battery drain and control panel. PM me if you want more thoughts on the Dell Venue.

dmkozak said:
There's a nine page thread entitled Potential Touch Screen Fix. This forum is full of Nexus 7 2nd gen touch screen problems. It looks a hardware grounding issue. Some people are on their fourth and fifth units and still having the problems.
I'm glad your's has worked well for one week and another poster's has worked well for one day, but this seems to be a hit and miss issue. Plus, many people notice the problem after having had the unit a while.
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Hi -- I've had my unit since October and I've had absolutely zero problems with it. :3 I bought it from Best Buy.

LG GPad 8.3, Google Play Edition.
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Is these issue's still happening on the Nexii 7 2013? I want to buy one myself.

I got a Nexus 7 (2013) for Christmas, it was purchased from Best Buy. I already have an HTC One, and I have to say -- the Nexus 7 keeps up fine, despite inferior specs. And my HTC One feels so very small now. It only beats the Nexus 7 in sound. I was reluctant to open up my Nexus 7, I gave a lot of thought to returning it for the credit, but I'm glad I kept it now. Go get a Nexus 7!

And today's current rumor, from various component suppliers, is the Nexus 8 will be introduced this summer. (Background comments are that Google is disappointed in the sales of the current Nexus 7.)
Currently, the choices are Nexus 7 (2013) at $269 for 32 gb; LG G Pad 8.3 at $299 (street price) for 16gb but w/SDHC; or Dell Venue 8 at $179/$209 for 16/32 gb but w/SDHC. The Dell has less dense screen, but equal to the rest of the competition, and twin core CPU which is more than capable for videos.
I don't know how to "convert" std G Pad to Google Edition w/less bloatware and quicker OTA updates. If the OTA updates along from LG, and LG doesn't modify them, then the question becomes how much of delay in getting them from LG rather than from Google.
If either LG or Dell comes up with sweet deal, that might be the way to go. I'll have to keep my eyes open.

Nexus 6 or Note 4 off topic

I know this is G Pro thread but one day all of us will get another phone. The G pro has been a awesome device. The best phone I have ever had. But I want a new one. So I want the Nexus 6 or Note 4. I am asking yall which one. Yalls advice would be appreciated. I am stuck on deciding both are good. I went into att and looked at both. The note 4 has all the bells and whistles. The nexus 6 is big I like. The Nexus will get all the updates first. The Note 4 will not which really does not matter since we root and flash our phones. I would love to hear yalls input on this thanks.

jason504 said:
I know this is G Pro thread but one day all of us will get another phone. The G pro has been a awesome device. The best phone I have ever had. But I want a new one. So I want the Nexus 6 or Note 4. I am asking yall which one. Yalls advice would be appreciated. I am stuck on deciding both are good. I went into att and looked at both. The note 4 has all the bells and whistles. The nexus 6 is big I like. The Nexus will get all the updates first. The Note 4 will not which really does not matter since we root and flash our phones. I would love to hear yalls input on this thanks.
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i feel the need to get another phone myself, been thinking on the note 3 before im not able to get from att, and the final price of these phones are getting rediculous, i paid 389 for the g pro, the note 4 is 825! nexus 6 on att 683, my dilemma is note 3 is 699 final and a lil outdated to some, but i have to do the next plan on att so its a matter of how much im willing to spend in taxes. i dont have the money to drop these prices on the phone outright so att being my carrier gotta go with what ya can afford. have an expensive phone and drive a rollscanhardly or save some loot and drive a spark..... decisions decisions! 825 for the note 4! that damn thing better read my mind, play ps4 and xbox games, and get me high at the same time. oh and make bacon too

Note 4 the way to go
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I'm staying
I am staying with the g pro I'm not changing phone till there no more custom roms left. There some people that don't even have smartphone.

I'll be staying with the OGP till there are quality 64-bit devices worth buying.
If I had to choose today between the nexus 6 and the note 4, I would take the Nate 4 due to:
1. Screen quality
2. Better battery life
3. Removable battery
4. SD
5. S-pen, adds some benefits
Nexus 6 is about the development community more than anything though, there should be plenty of community support for the note 4 as well.

LG G Pro 2
Nuff said.

phatmanxxl said:
LG G Pro 2
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Not released in the US
and not much, last time I checked, happening for development, though a very good device.

capnloo said:
i feel the need to get another phone myself, been thinking on the note 3 before im not able to get from att, and the final price of these phones are getting rediculous, i paid 389 for the g pro, the note 4 is 825! nexus 6 on att 683, my dilemma is note 3 is 699 final and a lil outdated to some, but i have to do the next plan on att so its a matter of how much im willing to spend in taxes. i dont have the money to drop these prices on the phone outright so att being my carrier gotta go with what ya can afford. have an expensive phone and drive a rollscanhardly or save some loot and drive a spark..... decisions decisions! 825 for the note 4! that damn thing better read my mind, play ps4 and xbox games, and get me high at the same time. oh and make bacon too
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Did you see the new lg g 3 Vista? It is 5.7 in and it is only 375$. I mean it's not the best but it looks like a good phone. Check it out

I'd rather get 1+1 if price is a problem. Nexus 6 and Note 4 aren't very smooth (some reviews said so). Maybe because the QHD screen. And if I want a new phone, I want it to have no lag at all.
Xperia Z3 Compact is very alluring, 801 with 720p. The battery is very good too. But the screen is smaller and that might become a problem for you. I'll definitely get this device if I can't get the 1+1.
If you want to wait though, device with snapdragon 810 is around the corner (february?). Rumor also said 1+2 will be coming soon.

Charles7 said:
I'll be staying with the OGP till there are quality 64-bit devices worth buying.
If I had to choose today between the nexus 6 and the note 4, I would take the Nate 4 due to:
1. Screen quality
2. Better battery life
3. Removable battery
4. SD
5. S-pen, adds some benefits
Nexus 6 is about the development community more than anything though, there should be plenty of community support for the note 4 as well.
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love those features!
note 4 has physical button to wake, it's a plus unless you have the double tap to wake.

The external SD card is a nice feature on any phone. But no devices get supported in an official way like nexus devices, both vanilla Android from Google and the various roms from the developer community both end up supporting the devices real well.

That's one of the reasons why I am leaning towards the nexus 6 because of development and updates. But that note 4 does have some cool stuff. Someone mentioned the 1+1 when that phone came out I was all on it. Thinking this is great high specs cheap price. Then they pulled this invite crap. They lost me good luck still trying to get one.

I would suggest to wait till almost quarter of next year (2015). You would see some 64 bit devices coming to the smartphone market.
At present I don't think one should spent so much money on Nexus 6 or Note 4 or even Z3.
They are all 32 bit, probably you might not notice a drastic change in you experience moving to any of these device.
Wait for 64 bit chips Snapdragon 808 or 810, wait for 4k screens coming next year.
Waiting now shall prove fruitful for you.
For now I have sold my GPro and bought a used Nexus 5 device, pretty, doing this is pretty common here.
I did not go for a new expensive phone for all the reason I just gave.

How about a G Flex?
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vivebatu said:
How about a G Flex?
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I liked that phone when it came out but was disappointed in the screen resolution. That phone is still just as expensive as the others.

jason504 said:
I liked that phone when it came out but was disappointed in the screen resolution. That phone is still just as expensive as the others.
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IMHO I basically see no 'usable' difference between 720p and 1080p. But that is just my view.
Further a new G Flex is now available for around $300-350, while a note 4 will cost almost double of that, so you could save tons of money for sure
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vivebatu said:
IMHO I basically see no 'usable' difference between 720p and 1080p. But that is just my view.
Further a new G Flex is now available for around $300-350, while a note 4 will cost almost double of that, so you could save tons of money for sure
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I was in att about 2 months ago a d the flex was the same price it was when it came out. But that's att they are always high. But I want a phone with real good development. I have not looked at the flex development might check it out thanks for your input I appreciate it.

Nexus 7 discontinued?

http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/25/8495999/google-nexus-7-discontinued
I am hoping this means "until the next product refresh", but for now the N7 is no longer available through Google.

I still love it, the old one didn't have back camera an Qi. I'll skip the 9, as it too big. Maybe consider, go nexus 6 way, instead of 2 devices...
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Google might introduce a Nexus 7 ( 2015 ) or similar Tablet soon ? It seems that the Nexus 9 was not a huge success after all ?

Gorgtech said:
Google might introduce a Nexus 7 ( 2015 ) or similar Tablet soon ? It seems that the Nexus 9 was not a huge success after all ?
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Probably because it is bloody expensive for what it is, and fails to offer features found on similarly priced units. It has a lower resolution display (pixels per inch) than the N7, no SD card slot like nearly every other tablet in its price range, no wireless charging, etc. and it costs more than a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1!
The whole attraction to the Nexus 7 was that it was a very good tablet at a very good price. Even at the $229 I paid for mine new over a year ago, I felt it was a solid deal - enough that I could live with the few restrictions (like no SD card slot). At today's prices, it is a fantastic deal.
The Nexus 9? Not so much. At that price point, the stuff that got left off is more embarrassing.

Nexus 7 2013 64GB exists

Today i've got a very weird tablet. It's Nexus 7 2013 LTE version with 64GB of memory. A guy who sold me this tablet is the author of a video on Youtube called "asus google nexus 7 lte (2013) 64gb". Sad but i can't post it because i'm new user, but you can easily find it for sure. Anyway it's real memory, i've tried to download some huge videos and everything is fine - 55 GB is free and available to use.
Metal shields on the motherboard are not damaged, so it looks like factory mistake or something like this.
Does anyone have another Nexus 7 with 64GB or is it so unique?

I can prove it's not a fake if needed. But i really want to know is it the only Nexus 7 tablet with 64GB in the world?

That is very weird indeed, it was probably a developer model or a test model that got cut from release late in production. If it truly has 64GB then I suggest keeping it as it is extremely rare
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And if you ever sell the device, it could bring a lot of money , if sold to the right, interested person, because it could be one of a kind or one of very few in existence
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If anyone interested i'm selling this tablet on ebay. Item 252132269415

Cool tablet. If you would have sold it a year ago, it would have brought in a good amount of money. Now, its a bit outdated. Good luck with your sale.
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