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[Q] dangers with rooting ouya

Hey,
So to a total newcomer to the whole rooting thing, i was wondering exactly what the dangers with rooting is? What does it open up to malware that wasnt there before?
When you jailbrake an i-device you for example hafto change the root password since its the same for all jailbroken devices after jailbrake.
Can someone break it down easy?
Many thanks!

soulman79 said:
Hey,
So to a total newcomer to the whole rooting thing, i was wondering exactly what the dangers with rooting is? What does it open up to malware that wasnt there before?
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Well there's a danger you can accidentally delete something you shouldn't have. You do have access to the file system after all.
Malware threats are overblown on platforms outside of Windows. Android and iOS malware still needs you to purposely install an apk/ipa. If not, they're usually sent through SMS/MMS, which the Ouya is incapable of. <_<'
Pretty much the only ways you can get malware is if you sideload it or if it somehow sneaks into the stores.
There's one specific exploit... but that doesn't affect the Ouya because:
1. It's not Samsung.
2. It doesn't have GSM/3G/HSDPA.
When you jailbrake an i-device you for example hafto change the root password since its the same for all jailbroken devices after jailbrake.
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No such restriction exists on Android. My Ouya account is still usable after rooting (and it coexists with my Google account).

thank you for taking the time to explain it!
Will root after morning coffe then =) If i do a system reset ( in the ouya menu´s ) will the root disappear? Or do i manually have to uninstall it if i want to make it factory original again?

soulman79 said:
thank you for taking the time to explain it!
Will root after morning coffe then =) If i do a system reset ( in the ouya menu´s ) will the root disappear? Or do i manually have to uninstall it if i want to make it factory original again?
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Root disappears if you factory reset, or there's a system update. So be prepared to reroot if there's an update. Keep the one click app handy! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
You should take a look at this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359390
I haven't had the opportunity to test the superuser preserve function yet (I updated before rooting), so just in case be prepared to reapply your root.
Ouya isn't Sony, I don't think they'll be blocking root access anytime soon.

Ultimate Chicken said:
Root disappears if you factory reset, or there's a system update. So be prepared to reroot if there's an update. Keep the one click app handy! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
You should take a look at this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359390
I haven't had the opportunity to test the superuser preserve function yet (I updated before rooting), so just in case be prepared to reapply your root.
Ouya isn't Sony, I don't think they'll be blocking root access anytime soon.
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Awsome! got it rooted and can FINALLY log in to youtube, the google tv youtube app is perfect!
Thanks for all your answers, really appreciate it!

so i did a factory reset just cause i got alot installed and wanted a fresh setup, but after the reset google store and some other app from google where still there, aren't they suppost to be wiped off with a factory reset? how do i get rid of them?

soulman79 said:
so i did a factory reset just cause i got alot installed and wanted a fresh setup, but after the reset google store and some other app from google where still there, aren't they suppost to be wiped off with a factory reset? how do i get rid of them?
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Ah yes, the Play Store hack is what's known as a dirty hack. It leaves crumbs that persist through a factory reset. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44166123&postcount=158
PS: you'll need root access to delete those. After you get rid of the play store stuff you can factory reset again and it shouldn't be back.

i ran the root apk and it says rooted, tried to delete the files with es file explorer but it wont delete the files... i even stoppped the process in the settings menu... is there another way i gotta go about?

soulman79 said:
i ran the root apk and it says rooted, tried to delete the files with es file explorer but it wont delete the files... i even stoppped the process in the settings menu... is there another way i gotta go about?
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E's file explorer should be able to do it, but I think you need to mount system/ as R/W because it doesn't do so automatically. http://androidcowboy.com/2013/06/how-to-uninstall-system-apps-with-es-file-explorer/
If the above doesn't work, you're missing the superuser app.
These days I just connect things to my computer via microusb and use adb shell to deal with the file system; I still need busybox for that.

puh, got it done.. missed the part that you gotta show root explorer on the left menu.. Holy sh*t im out of my league here =)
If i install the framework only will that leave bits and peaces to, or is it only playstore that does this? i saw that the framework had an uninstall / cleanup function in the app so im guessing that it takes care of itself?
If i disable root acces after installing the framwork will the framework still function or do it need to be rooted all the time?
Big thank you for the fast reply´s!

soulman79 said:
puh, got it done.. missed the part that you gotta show root explorer on the left menu.. Holy sh*t im out of my league here =)
If i install the framework only will that leave bits and peaces to, or is it only playstore that does this? i saw that the framework had an uninstall / cleanup function in the app so im guessing that it takes care of itself?
If i disable root acces after installing the framwork will the framework still function or do it need to be rooted all the time?
Big thank you for the fast reply´s!
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The framework needs root access.
The playstore mod is the only one that leaves bits and pieces AFAIK... next time before you factory reset, run the cleanup tools and uninstall the mod first. (Sorry I didn't warn you before. I forgot. >.<)

ahh, will do =)
Finnaly got it setup up right! Thx for all the support man!

[SM-N900T] CF-Auto-Root

Please see the 'generic' Note 3 CF-Auto-Root thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
This actual thread will become a proper CF-Auto-Root thread once I'm finished tying up all the lose ends. Please comment in this thread, but read the instructions and grab the file from the thread linked above.

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Thanks

Has anyone else been getting RPC:S-5:AEC-0 errors?
I tired wiping both caches and data from app manager. nothing
Tried wiping cache from recovery. nothing.
tried wiping cache and factory restore. nothing.
After I rooted apps were installing fine but then it just stopped.
Any suggestions? Im gonna try to see if I can find an odin file of it stock.
EDIT: So I used a odin stock image. Still getting error. Any suggestions?
Do tmobile employees check to see if it has been flashed?
Gonna try to go back to store and see if can get it replaced with another. But cant till later. This sucks....
FIX looks like it was on googles servers. Back to normal but this is on stock after I odin, Ill wait on the root to see if others are still getting problems.

transitoyspace said:
Has anyone else been getting RPC:S-5:AEC-0 errors?
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I was getting the above error too even after performing a device reset. I reflashed the root a second time and it is working. The only difference is I enabled USB debugging in the Developer options the second time, not sure if that really made a difference though.

transitoyspace said:
Has anyone else been getting RPC:S-5:AEC-0 errors?
I tired wiping both caches and data from app manager. nothing
Tried wiping cache from recovery. nothing.
tried wiping cache and factory restore. nothing.
After I rooted apps were installing fine but then it just stopped.
Any suggestions? Im gonna try to see if I can find an odin file of it stock.
EDIT: So I used a odin stock image. Still getting error. Any suggestions?
Do tmobile employees check to see if it has been flashed?
Gonna try to go back to store and see if can get it replaced with another. But cant till later. This sucks....
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Me too I p m chain fire like 15 min ago. It could be a Google issue
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk 4

transitoyspace said:
Has anyone else been getting RPC:S-5:AEC-0 errors?
I tired wiping both caches and data from app manager. nothing
Tried wiping cache from recovery. nothing.
tried wiping cache and factory restore. nothing.
After I rooted apps were installing fine but then it just stopped.
Any suggestions? Im gonna try to see if I can find an odin file of it stock.
EDIT: So I used a odin stock image. Still getting error. Any suggestions?
Do tmobile employees check to see if it has been flashed?
Gonna try to go back to store and see if can get it replaced with another. But cant till later. This sucks....
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I have been getting it (wasn't up until I rooted!). Was driving me insane.............. Tried all the tricks I found on the internet with absolutely zero luck.... until I came across this dude's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv8d-nl04qI. It worked but I followed it to the t! So delete your Google account. Force close and erase Data for the 3 services he's mentioning. Turn it off. Turn it back on. Go to Play, it asks for your Google Account; add it.... Enjoy!

XooLoo said:
I have been getting it (wasn't up until I rooted!). Was driving me insane.............. Tried all the tricks I found on the internet with absolutely zero luck.... until I came across this dude's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv8d-nl04qI. It worked but I followed it to the t! So delete your Google account. Force close and erase Data for the 3 services he's mentioning. Turn it off. Turn it back on. Go to Play, it asks for your Google Account; add it.... Enjoy!
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Thanks I will give it a try
Edit: it worked Thanks a million
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk 4

Ah wow, I was getting these errors too. Thought it was unrelated and a server side issue (still might be, account specific?)
I'm writing this without reading the suggestions above but, what eventually worked for me (after removing accounts, factory reset, clearing play store data & play framework whether necessary or not)..
Went to Google dashboard (all on PC), made sure device was there, went to play.google.com (computer)-- it errored and froze, logged out, back in, worked eventually, viewed my installed apps (took like 5 minutes to load), started installing apps from there. Once that was working, it worked on my device.
The curious part was, initially, when I'd search for ANY app on play.google.com, it would show no results. Opening in incognito (not signed in), it worked fine.

XooLoo said:
I have been getting it (wasn't up until I rooted!). Was driving me insane.............. Tried all the tricks I found on the internet with absolutely zero luck.... until I came across this dude's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv8d-nl04qI. It worked but I followed it to the t! So delete your Google account. Force close and erase Data for the 3 services he's mentioning. Turn it off. Turn it back on. Go to Play, it asks for your Google Account; add it.... Enjoy!
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Yes, had the same problem on my SM-N900T, not on either of the other two [N900/A], it took creating a new google account and also clearing the cache for google services framework, google play and uninstalling the play store update. I had to do this a couple of times, seemed to work better for me without a reboot, but this is the right path for fixing this problem.
Hope this helps,
Bob

Can someone with a rooted note 3 confirm this doesn't t change Knox to 0x1 ?

bob_beringer said:
Yes, had the same problem on my SM-N900T, not on either of the other two [N900/A], it took creating a new google account and also clearing the cache for google services framework, google play and uninstalling the play store update. I had to do this a couple of times, seemed to work better for me without a reboot, but this is the right path for fixing this problem.
Hope this helps,
Bob
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I just force stopped play store and cleared data and it worked after that.

unlockingsky said:
Can someone with a rooted note 3 confirm this doesn't t change Knox to 0x1 ?
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How do we se our Knox status and also....does it do anything to the phone when its like that? Should we wait for a method of root that doesnt trip knox

bdorr1105 said:
How do we se our Knox status and also....
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go to download mode .

unlockingsky said:
go to download mode .
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If you have both Kies and Android SDK installed, go to command prompt (cmd) and go to where adb.exe is, and type:
adb reboot download
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unlockingsky said:
Can someone with a rooted note 3 confirm this doesn't t change Knox to 0x1 ?
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Mine is 0x1

unlockingsky said:
Can someone with a rooted note 3 confirm this doesn't t change Knox to 0x1 ?
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it changes it. what does knox do for the normal user? i

transitoyspace said:
it changes it. what does knox do for the normal user? i
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None, basically it detects flash so that they can void your warranty.

zoth said:
None, basically it detects flash so that they can void your warranty.
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it voids your samsung warranty to be exact. if you take it back to tmobile with tmobile warranty, they will still fix/replace hardware issues.

About to root for the simple fact I can not stand the headphones auto adjusting. I need it louder then normal and tired of playing music at maxed settings just to hear music and then a few songs later it acts like its supposed to. (work in a factory)
Anywho: Does this method still give you the option of having auto updates from Tmobile for bug fixes and stuff or do we need to manually keep an eye open for updates?
(coming from Rooted Stock Note 2 thats why im asking. Not big on romming)
Thank you

[APP][ROOT]MultiWindowMod

This is a MultiWindow Mod that allows you to select any apps you want for use with MultiWindow mode. I did not create this, I'm simply sharing it because I can't be the only one who wanted more MultiWindow apps and this is the first place VZW users will check for such a thing, henceforth simplifying the search process. It also doesn't say that it works for G4 but I can personally verify this has worked on my VZW G4 flawlessly. Use at your own risk, as with any root thing, problems can always occur even though 99% unlikely.
Instructions are pretty much unnecessary but I'll state them anyway.
1. Download the APK onto your phone and install it.
2. Open the app and allow root.
3. Select the applications you want for MultiWindowed mode then press Apply.
4. Reboot the phone via the same button where Apply was located.
Originally found this HERE. I'm not sure if he created it, but if someone can verify or tell me who did I will credit them below. - thread by @XabdullahX
Download link: http://www.ayg.dk/FlexMultiWindowMod.apk
Donation Version: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abdulg.flexmultiwindowmod

works perfectly!
Thanks!

Love the app thanks got the donation version thanks!

If you don't want another app, you can just edit the build.prop file (that's what I did):
persist.splitwindow.support_all=false change to true
found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=3165354

coolgare said:
If you don't want another app, you can just edit the build.prop file (that's what I did):
persist.splitwindow.support_all=false change to true
found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=3165354
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I did this and now I'm in a bootloop. Any idea how to correct this?

Worked perfectly(the app did anyway)....to the guy who tried build prop edit. Have u tried a factory reset from your stock recovery? ....a kdz may be in order... Good luck

joeyz400 said:
I did this and now I'm in a bootloop. Any idea how to correct this?
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You can push files via adb from stock recovery (hold power+voldown). Just push a stock build.prop from a verizon g4 over.
Or factory reset

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The paid version didn't work for me. I got a file not found error. The free version is no longer on the server.
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Undue This?
is there anyway to undo this modification? I uninstalled the app but the modification stayed in place. I have previously installed Xposed and it is messing up another Xposed module I am trying to utilize. any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

joeyz400 said:
I did this and now I'm in a bootloop. Any idea how to correct this?
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I tried the unpaid version and would always get a force closed error,
I then modified the build.prop file as above after which it would no long successfully boot (stuck on Verizon splash)
Tried all options:
Safe mode
USB debug mode
Factory data reset
Wipe cache
nothing worked.
Tried to access the build.prop file via ADB but not available in Stock Recovery mode.
Eventually had to KDZ, reroot, and restore from backup via Fireflash
If you are going to try this make sure you have good backup!

Thanks a lot! Just tried the free apk and its working
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How do I Block Updates Fire TV 2 with Root

I am trying to find a good method to permanently block updates on my Rooted Fire TV 2 but many of the guides aren't very good or just don't work.
I would like for the method of blocking updates to be system based (Survives factory reset) I do not want to use Network based solutions since those may or may not last forever (or at least for the life of the machine)
I do not want to Solutions involving pm disable or pm hide because they do not survive a factory reset
using build.prop could work but I already tried this guide to no avail
another solution could be a stubbed version of the DeviceSoftwareOTA apk that always returns a value of being up to date, but since I'm probably not able to build it myself it's not really realistic

Toothless_NEO said:
I am trying to find a good method to permanently block updates on my Rooted Fire TV 2 but many of the guides aren't very good or just don't work.
I would like for the method of blocking updates to be system based (Survives factory reset) I do not want to use Network based solutions since those may or may not last forever (or at least for the life of the machine)
I do not want to Solutions involving pm disable or pm hide because they do not survive a factory reset
using build.prop could work but I already tried this guide to no avail
another solution could be a stubbed version of the DeviceSoftwareOTA apk that always returns a value of being up to date, but since I'm probably not able to build it myself it's not really realistic
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I have used the PM disable for years. I have also installed a package disabler and both have been effective...
Block update via ADB (root)
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-software-updates-on-the-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/
Block update via app (this is the one i use, but i am sure there are free ones- a mouse makes it easier to navigate)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pdp.deviceowner

Michajin said:
I have used the PM disable for years. I have also installed a package disabler and both have been effective...
Block update via ADB (root)
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-software-updates-on-the-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/
Block update via app (this is the one i use, but i am sure there are free ones- a mouse makes it easier to navigate)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pdp.deviceowner
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I have been using pm disable, the only thing that concerns me about that method is that it can't survive a data wipe. I want to find a method that can survive a data wipe without completely removing DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk and KFTVlauncher.apk (Contains Amazon Video, store, search ,and settings functions)
(If I remove DeviceSoftwareOTA I have to also remove KFTVlauncher or the device will be semi-bricked after a factory reset [can't complete setup without checking updates])

Toothless_NEO said:
I have been using pm disable, the only thing that concerns me about that method is that it can't survive a data wipe. I want to find a method that can survive a data wipe without completely removing DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk and KFTVlauncher.apk (Contains Amazon Video, store, search ,and settings functions)
(If I remove DeviceSoftwareOTA I have to also remove KFTVlauncher or the device will be semi-bricked after a factory reset [can't complete setup without checking updates])
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The pre-rooted roms wont take updates, from what i have seen they recommend as a back up. The recovery should be disabled.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/development/firetv-2-sloane-prerooted-stock-images-t3309783
But you can also to the lineage sloan 12.1 rom. That might work better for 3rd party apps and google,,, But it doesnt seem stable enough to me.

Question Remove all trace of rooting

Hi folks,
Hope you are all fine !
I uninstalled Magisk but some apps still detect it's "rooted" which prevent them from opening. Would you have any ideas what cleaning I could do to avoid these apps to wrongly detect root ?
I'm running A13 stable TP1A.221005.02.
Thanks in advance !

5t4rC0m1337 said:
Hi folks,
Hope you are all fine !
I uninstalled Magisk but some apps still detect it's "rooted" which prevent them from opening. Would you have any ideas what cleaning I could do to avoid these apps to wrongly detect root ?
I'm running A13 stable TP1A.221005.02.
Thanks in advance !
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My guess is that you still have the bootloader unlocked.
If you decide to re-lock the bootloader, it's gonna factory reset & wipe all data.

KOLIOSIS said:
My guess is that you still have the bootloader unlocked.
If you decide to re-lock the bootloader, it's gonna factory reset & wipe all data.
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Thanks for the suggestion.
I didn't think app could verify this so easily.
I'd like as much as possible to not wipe the device, is there any way to confirm what triggered the app to find the "root" though it is not rooted any longer ? Any logs I could check perhaps ?
Thanks in advance -

One other thing is to remove the magisk app .apk if you downloaded it. Some programs do scan your files and if they see magisk in your files they deem you as "rooted".
Cheers,
B.D.

5t4rC0m1337 said:
Thanks for the suggestion.
I didn't think app could verify this so easily.
I'd like as much as possible to not wipe the device, is there any way to confirm what triggered the app to find the "root" though it is not rooted any longer ? Any logs I could check perhaps ?
Thanks in advance -
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Before factory resetting, you could also try a dirty flash of the latest firmware.zip or using the official online Google Pixel Flash Tool.

BostonDan said:
One other thing is to remove the magisk app .apk if you downloaded it. Some programs do scan your files and if they see magisk in your files they deem you as "rooted".
Cheers,
B.D.
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I don't think apps are allowed to read other app's data by default anymore?

mko000 said:
I don't think apps are allowed to read other app's data by default anymore?
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It is not reading another apps data. It literally is scanning filenames. If you grant an app permission to read/write files, it can read any downloaded file to determine if it is magisk related.
Cheers,
B.F.

BostonDan said:
It is not reading another apps data. It literally is scanning filenames. If you grant an app permission to read/write files, it can read any downloaded file to determine if it is magisk related.
Cheers,
B.F.
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I would be very suspicious of any app requesting such a permission, if it doesn't really need it.

Hi Folks,
Thanks everyone for your suggestions !
I removed all Magisk apps files, applications which needed root (though I'm not root, but was), and this fixed the issue here (I had in my hide list from nova an app called Root Explorer and I think the issue got resolved after I uninstalled it lol).
Have a great evening !

On a side note, moving to A13 ruined my great battery life, sadge.

I had poor battery on Sept A13 release. Oct A13 security release seemed to fix this.
Cheers,
B.D.