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[Q] unrevoked forever

even though i rooted through simple root and have nand unlocked, is it recommended to use unrevoked forever to keep nand unlocked?

Rocklee99 said:
even though i rooted through simple root and have nand unlocked, is it recommended to use unrevoked forever to keep nand unlocked?
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I wouldn't since you are already good.
The only thing it does is protect you if you should allow an OTA update and if you want any recommendation, I'd advise not downloading any OTA's ever.
EDIT: At least that is my understanding of what it does.

churchwin88 said:
I wouldn't since you are already good.
The only thing it does is protect you if you should allow an OTA update and if you want any recommendation, I'd advise not downloading any OTA's ever.
EDIT: At least that is my understanding of what it does.
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it only protects you if an S-ON update is not included in that OTA update.
Someone in another thread mentioned they already have a patch for the S-OFF/ON to kill unrevoked forever.
there is a point to the program but seriously, all it takes is an update to kill it and i am not sure what the revoked team was thinking making claims that it would allow root for ever,,,, that was a pretty unsubstantiated claim since, again, all it takes is an update from HTC.
I think the bigger point is that you wont loose root/nand if you flash a bad rom or something.
but i think they made that statement with "never install an OTA update without researching it first" in mind.
now that is how I understand it.

v_lestat said:
it only protects you if an S-ON update is not included in that OTA update.
Someone in another thread mentioned they already have a patch for the S-OFF/ON to kill unrevoked forever.
there is a point to the program but seriously, all it takes is an update to kill it and i am not sure what the revoked team was thinking making claims that it would allow root for ever,,,, that was a pretty unsubstantiated claim since, again, all it takes is an update from HTC.
I think the bigger point is that you wont loose root/nand if you flash a bad rom or something.
but i think they made that statement with "never install an OTA update without researching it first" in mind.
now that is how I understand it.
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Ahh, see I was under the impression, like probably most, that it was permanent. I wasn't aware that either this tool or HTC could change it back.

The patch for forever was mentioned but I don't think its actually confirmed. Either way, for root users here I don't see any reason to ever to an OTA.
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dglowe343 said:
The patch for forever was mentioned but I don't think its actually confirmed. Either way, for root users here I don't see any reason to ever to an OTA.
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I tryed it, when I first downgraded from 2.2 to 2.1 it asked if I wanted to update, so to see if unrevoked forever really work I downloaded the file and install it.after it was all done I went to bootloader to see is if the security was off and it was it said s-off then all I did is flash the custom recovery that was in the guide and it worked
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[Q] PLEASE HELP Visionary Perm root

i used visionary to temp root my device, then i clicked on the perm root option just to say what happened then my phone froze i started touching the screen and a menu popped up and i clicked an option on accident. the option on the left. then my phone shut off and is froze on the htc boot screen. i pulled the battery and the same thing happened. i tried a factory data reset and the phone is still frozen on the boot screen. please help T-Mo G2, 2.2, no roms

I really do not know why the visionary guides are allowed on these forums. I find it GROSSLY irresponsible of the mods. It has been proven TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME again that visionary bricks phone. For god sakes there is a sticky at the top of the forum saying DON'T USE VISIONARY FOR PERM ROOT. Your phone might be screwed. And its really not your fault. Those threads need closed. Period. Seriously mods, how many phones do you want ruined before you rid the forum of the visionary crap. The gfree method among MANY other alternatives works and DOESN'T BRICK PHONES. WHY LET THIS CRAP STAY FOR PEOPLE LIKE THIS WHO SEE IT AS AN EASY METHOD AND JUMP AT IT UGH.
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if you'd done some research (not picking on you, just for future reference), you'd have found many a testimony that visionary should not be used on the vision--oh, the irony--to obtain permanent root. visionary temp root is fine, but its perm root is dangerous to our phones.
are you able to boot into recovery? do you have a custom recovery (ie clockworkmod) installed? do you have the engineering hboot installed?

Visionary's Perm root will basically brick your phone... sorry

i can boot into recovery but i dont have cyanogen or any roms or anything installed i just rooted my phone

will htc help me?

AroundTheWorld said:
Visionary's Perm root will basically brick your phone... sorry
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Not always but a lot of people it does.
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paulwoods1114 said:
will htc help me?
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Don't tell them that you tried to root your phone, just tell them it did it on it's own.
sure, they'll probably find out once they've got it, but by then they'll probably just fix it. htc sometimes fixes rooted phones if the they belive the problem was something else.
for example (this has actually happened):
lets say your phones screen stopped working, but it was rooted. the root has nothing to do with the screen, so they'll fix it, but when the phone was returned to the customer it was no longer rooted.

Is sending my phone to HTC my only option because i can still boot into to recovery and get into the bootloader and all that. i just want to know that HTC is my last resort

If your bootloader says S-ON, and your recovery is not CWM then you're good to go.

Visionary works for exactly what it is supposed to do. Temp root. Then you can achieve perm root with the various methods depending on your build #. It perm roots on earlier phones - so I hear, as well. The OP hit the perm root button without s-off. Easier to find warnings about that could be instructive, but the mods can't take the visionary instructionals off the forum. ABD is not exactly a friend to the G2. There are a number of things the OP can try. If they really release the update - that should do it. Thread-rom manager,rom backup, and red exclamation point. Etc.
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My bootloader says S-ON

My bootloader says S-ON

paulwoods1114 said:
My bootloader says S-ON
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yea warranty will cover it... just dont mention root or anyting.... it did it by itself you hear me (personal experience.... one of the first to brick using visionary....)

Visionary works for exactly what it is supposed to do. Temp root. Then you can achieve perm root with the various methods depending on your build #. It perm roots on earlier phones - so I hear, as well. The OP hit the perm root button without s-off. Easier to find warnings about that could be instructive, but the mods can't take the visionary instructionals off the forum. ABD is not exactly a friend to the G2. There are a number of things the OP can try. If they really release the update - that should do it. Thread-rom manager,rom backup, and red exclamation point. Etc.
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Actually they can take them off the forums, and even if that was true, they can close the threads and let them fall into oblivion. They do all of xda a gigantic disservice by being so irresponsible and letting that junk linger so noobs can brick there phone within the freaking day of buying it. Its outrageous and I'm not gonna listen to any other arguement.
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+1
There's a perfectly good guide on XDA Wiki for permrooting the G2, and other sub forums on XDA for each device to root. There's no need for Visionary at this point. There will always be alternative ways to root phones.

Well,
I was using the word "can't" for emphasis. I suppose in some ways "don't" would have been more accurate. Let me try again. Feel free not to listen. I will always be grateful to Modaco. Here's why: I had a G1 (gf has it now -running froyo at the moment), TouchPro 2 (my Dad is using it now - so not that modified, but it was); I finally get a G2 and I can't do anything with it. I sat there for 24 hours trying to root it before I called 1 of the 2 guys in Austin on Craigslist offering flashing/rooting/unlocking services. Sat with him for 12 hours. On the plus side he did show me how to set up ABD. On the other hand lot of time with an irate stranger who won't even take the money he is so upset with himself.
Finally figured out if you use the root no abd required method twice (on everything but the G2s with Gingerbread) you can sneak by barely and downgrade etc. Visionary provided the temp root.
I wasn't lucky enough to get a G2 on the first day. I was in the same boat as the folks with Gingerbread. Thought I had waited too long. My parting words from the professional flashers place. But Visionary and the automated scripts for Gfree saved me. Should the perm root button contain a warning that you need s-off first? Sure. But developers have little incentive to update when criticism is so harsh. I have a feeling every root method is indebted to Visionary. If I had a "ginger" G2 I would be praying they were working on a fix.
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[Q] Temporary/Soft Root for the One X?

I would like to install some apps that require root privileges. On my previous phone (Moto Milestone), we had 2 root procedures: Soft root, that could be achieved my an app, universal one root, and a hard root, which would require flashing various stuff. I understand that HOX has some permanent root procedures, but is there any way of achieving soft root? I do not want to void my warranty yet, and am willing to wait for S-OFF for a few more months.
Are there any soft root methods available for the One X?

none mate. you need to unlock bootloader through htcdev.com
I was having the same consern as you do, but after I received my 3rd HOX (the other two were faulty) , i decided to wait about 8-15 days, and since everything was ok, I unlocked it and rooted it. so far so good.

I spotted this. Haven't tested it myself though.
http://onexroot.com/one-x-root/root-any-htc-one-x-windowsmaclinuxattinternationalone-click-method/
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KrisPerry said:
I spotted this. Haven't tested it myself though.
http://onexroot.com/one-x-root/root-any-htc-one-x-windowsmaclinuxattinternationalone-click-method/
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It work this ?
You must have unlock your bootloader to get root access or not ?

Anyone tried that method? Personally, I am suspicious of any procedure that doesn't come out of XDA..

uptheironsrafi said:
Anyone tried that method? Personally, I am suspicious of any procedure that doesn't come out of XDA..
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The comments posted on the article imply that HTC have patched this method. However perhaps it would work with earlier software versions
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This only works on the S4 chipset devices.

[Q] New owner with a hopefully simple root question

Hello folks- New here. Took advantage of the unlimited data glitch last weekend, and upgraded from a Bionic to the blue HTC One. I've been scanning through the threads here, but quickly became confused. Can someone sum-up the root situation? I'm completely stock with a locked bootloader, and have not taken any OTA yet. From what I've been able to gather here, it's not looking good, but there could be an exploit coming after 4.3. Is this accurate? Thanks.

dberthia said:
Hello folks- New here. Took advantage of the unlimited data glitch last weekend, and upgraded from a Bionic to the blue HTC One. I've been scanning through the threads here, but quickly became confused. Can someone sum-up the root situation? I'm completely stock with a locked bootloader, and have not taken any OTA yet. From what I've been able to gather here, it's not looking good, but there could be an exploit coming after 4.3. Is this accurate? Thanks.
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Correct. There was a method through HTC-dev, which is no longer available. You can send Sonic your phone for him to root via java card. Or you could not take the OTA and wait for an exploit.

brymaster5000 said:
Correct. There was a method through HTC-dev, which is no longer available. You can send Sonic your phone for him to root via java card. Or you could not take the OTA and wait for an exploit.
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Thank you. I usually just root to freeze the bloatware and to run AdAway. I can wait I guess.

dberthia said:
Thank you. I usually just root to freeze the bloatware and to run AdAway. I can wait I guess.
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Almost all bloat can be disabled.
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International M8 weak sauce root method ?

I'm wondering if there might be in the pipeline a method similar to weak sauce where you just downloaded an apk. and you can gain root access without having to go to the trouble of downloading Android sdk , etc, etc, command prompts etc and in my case having to go to the Internet cafe as I don't use PC /Laptop, much and all as I love HTC but it's a bloody nightmare when it comes to rooting compared to Samsung which was simple.
I already tried weak sauce and it force closes when I click on agree but I did read that it was really initially for Verizon in USA so I wasn't overly surprised it wouldn't work.
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To gain root escalation in that way there must be an exploitable bug. Until no holes are found, no temp root methods will be out.

Try again in a right method.

Shame as it has great potential
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Any update on this? Thank you.

I've gotten root since this post but still would be nice to see
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Is there a way to root without PC? Does Weaksauce work on the Google Play Edition?

rabaker07 said:
Is there a way to root without PC? Does Weaksauce work on the Google Play Edition?
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I don't think weak sauce ever worked for this device. Old exploits get patched. Using a method from years ago, won't work.
Try kingroot, although results have been mixed.

rabaker07 said:
Is there a way to root without PC? Does Weaksauce work on the Google Play Edition?
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you can flash TWRP with out using PC if your device is s-off then flash supersu.zip from there
do you have an s-off device ??