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[Q] Is now a bad time to buy?

I'm in the market for a new phone. I've been looking between the Note 2, SGS4 and the HTC One. I'm kind of leaning towards the Note 2 but I'm concerned that it might not be the best time to buy one of these. Thoughts/suggestions?

why would now be a bad time to buy the best phone on the market?

I'm concerned how well the phone will hold up over the next two years. I don't want to get left out in the cold because I decided to buy the Note 2 instead of the SGS4

it hasnt been out for 2 years, so no one can answer that question...

OK, let's simplify this. You were up for renewal, choice is a Note2 (assuming you dont own one) or an SGS4. Which would you choose?

My vote.. wait till note 3 to make ur decision

twanskys204 said:
My vote.. wait till note 3 to make ur decision
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I would love to, the problem is that I am currently phone-less and I can't really go without a cellphone for an unknown # of months until the Note 3 comes out.

Use google voice on your computer to communicate for now and see if you can enjoy phonelessness!

bob60626 said:
Use google voice on your computer to communicate for now and see if you can enjoy phonelessness!
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Unfortunately that doesn't help when I'm on the road for work

note 2 no contest...

I couldn't wait and got the gnote2 a couple of weeks ago. I sold my gnote first and that covered the cost with the 2 year contract. So I'm happy.
I got it at Walmart since it was a lot cheaper than at&t store or online and just 10 more tjan amazon and I didn't have to wait 5 days even with amazon prime, weekend I guess.
My thinking was the s4 might drop the price of the note2 a bit but the note1 is stikl 200 at at&t store.
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It all depends on your budget and your need. If you're on the road constantly then the Note would be best for you because of the big battery. Again it all is dependent on your type of usage as well as budget. If money is not an issue I'd say the s4.
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brandonarev said:
It all depends on your budget and your need. If you're on the road constantly then the Note would be best for you because of the big battery. Again it all is dependent on your type of usage as well as budget. If money is not an issue I'd say the s4.
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In my current situation, the S4 is actually *cheaper* than the Note 2.

soritong said:
In my current situation, the S4 is actually *cheaper* than the Note 2.
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Then if u don't need the s pen and don't mind half inch smaller screen go for that
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I'm going to recommend the Note 2. I just installed CM 10.1 and have underclocked to 900Mhz and the device still runs as smooth as I need it to day in and day out. Keep in mind that 900Mhz is nearly half of what the processor is capable of.
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Until concrete numbers are in I'm going to say the Note 2 just on battery size. Lets face it doesnt matter what ohone you have, with no juice it's ni good. Note 2 has 3100 mah and S4 has 2600 mah. Biggest difference for battery comsumption is screen but the difference in battery size doesnt make up the difference.

2600 for a 5" LTE phone is terrible; my wifi SGP 5.0 was "ok" with 2500; my original AT&T Note kinda ok with an aftermarket 2700. Bleh.

It's always a bad time to buy a new phone.
There will always be a new one coming out or just around the corner. ..
Your on the Note II forum. ..so expectations and answers to be more positive for it than any other.
Right now. ..this phone is still the best for those who want a big screen. .fast cpu..plenty of new roms/themes/add ons and have a Spen to use.
Others have their own strength and weakness as well. .so figure out what you really want. ..and go from there.
Being stuck with this phone for 2 years isn't a problem. ...if it has what you want and need really. ..it's just not going to be the latest version out soon. ...BTW plenty of folks still use their Note 1's....
Ask yourself what you need. ..as opposed to what the companies are promoting as the next big great thing...because this is how they rope folks into always wanting something new.
Mac

From Note to Note II

Im considering upgrading to the Note II , anyone that has come from the OG to the II , wanna enlighten me why I should make the switch , Im on Straight talk btw !

Because its a much better device.
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Why Switch?...Jedixp14+Saber kernel 30.3...UC 120 - OC 1920...GPU OC 800....Speed, Stability, Awesome Battery life. SgH-i317 is compatible with most Tmo Gn2 and n7105 Roms, Kernels and Mods. The 2 is an awesome device but I myself would wait on the GN3 since its so late in the year. But you wouldn't be disappointed if you got faithful GN2

Get one and trust me you will never look back
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Vintage144 said:
Im considering upgrading to the Note II , anyone that has come from the OG to the II , wanna enlighten me why I should make the switch , Im on Straight talk btw !
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Because you will live a life of anguish and deep regret if you don't...
Because subconsciously you have already purchased a note 2 and love it...
Because Bacon is not really Bacon unless you own the pig...
Just because you can...
Yeh....get a new note 2....
Because........g
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Im on straight talk also and i to went from note og to note 2 best choice i made way better device and the quadcore makes a lot of difference...i say make the switch
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I say wait for the Note 3 or get something else.
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because its like going from a Yugo to a Lamborghinni..

well I do like the Note , so the inevitable is to go to the note 2 , once I got that big beautiful screen , theres no going back below 5 inches period !
Right now Im just trying to find the best deal so it might be a few days ,But the Note 2 is coming my way ,now with that said , what is the battery life compared to the Note? Is is a little slimmer as well? Ive never been to an att or tmobile store (recently) So I havent seen one to really tell the differnce , but the Note does have some limitations (todays technolgy being the main one)! I cant afford the Note 3 when it comes out and I dont do contracts anymore , I dont like paying 4000 for a fone!I bought my OG Note for $150 on ebay and its flawless

Vintage144 said:
well I do like the Note , so the inevitable is to go to the note 2 , once I got that big beautiful screen , theres no going back below 5 inches period !
Right now Im just trying to find the best deal so it might be a few days ,But the Note 2 is coming my way ,now with that said , what is the battery life compared to the Note? Is is a little slimmer as well? Ive never been to an att or tmobile store (recently) So I havent seen one to really tell the differnce , but the Note does have some limitations (todays technolgy being the main one)! I cant afford the Note 3 when it comes out and I dont do contracts anymore , I dont like paying 4000 for a fone!I bought my OG Note for $150 on ebay and its flawless
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Battery life of Note ll is way better than Note. I am running my Note ll all day with LTE on plus wifi on /off and got 1 day 6hrs with 10 hrs of screen time.
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well I bought the Note 2 , should be here in a few days !

Vintage144 said:
well I bought the Note 2 , should be here in a few days !
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I did the same few days ago!
It's pretty crazy how much Note 2 improved over Note 1.
Very happy with my purchase even though note3 is coming out in some months.

beirutas said:
I did the same few days ago!
It's pretty crazy how much Note 2 improved over Note 1.
Very happy with my purchase even though note3 is coming out in some months.
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I owned the original note and found it laggy as hell..
It is night and day difference with the note 2. This is easily the best phone I've ever owned by far.

crixley said:
I owned the original note and found it laggy as hell..
It is night and day difference with the note 2. This is easily the best phone I've ever owned by far.
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I still use Note1 from time to time and flash every single room possible and it's just doesn't come sligthly close to the Note2 speeds.
I really don't believe there will be such a huge gap between Note 2 and Note 3 though as it was with Note 1. But we will see.
And I totally agree, it's the best phone I ever owned. It's slightly slimmer so fits way better in the hand, touchpen works so much better than note1 as well. Battery easily lasts me through the day with plenty of battery still left.
Love it. No complaints at all.

Question to former owners of Note 2

I went to store to play with Note 3. It is nice device, fast etc. Is that worth to switch from my Note 2 or skip this one and wair for next version? During store visit I like device but wow factor wasn't there.
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Yes, I've had the Note 2 for almost a year and the Note 3 is way better in every way.

Just made that switch yesterday. I kept telling myself it was a negligible upgrade, that I'd be fine with waiting a while, but then... I played with the demo phone. Yes, it's very worth it. It's so much faster & the new features are stunning.

Yes. I had a Note 2 from the day it came out for TMob and an S4. I preferred the Note 2 to the S4 (battery life + screen size on the Note are the killer features vs. S4) but the Note 3 kills them both. Note 3 has better screen, better battery, better case, USB 3 faster charging/high speed transfer, IR (S4 has that too) list goes on but YES, the Note 3 is a much better phone than the Note 2 (I know its hard to believe ).

Sorry folks, this discussion needs to go here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466107

Will the note II get S4 camera features??

Hello,
I can't decide which phone is better: S4 or Note II
Maybe S4 is more powerful and more expensive as well
I've read that it has many problems like heat, battery drain, wifi disconnection, headphone jack, etc......
Note II is a good phone, may be it'll be laggy on some intense games like ASPHALT HD 8... (I'm a gamer too )
but I'm also concerned about the S4 features like drama shot, dual shot, and air gestures etc......
There is a thread here from March which mentioned that these features will be imported to the note II
But till now I don't know whether it's true or not.
Another Q: will a 8MP camera do well vs 13MP of the S4?
I need a good one to capture the text written on the board in my college from a distance (may be 7-12 meters far)
What do you think?
S4 or Note II?

AhmadLight said:
Hello,
I can't decide which phone is better: S4 or Note II
Maybe S4 is more powerful and more expensive as well
I've read that it has many problems like heat, battery drain, wifi disconnection, headphone jack, etc......
Note II is a good phone, may be it'll be laggy on some intense games like ASPHALT HD 8... (I'm a gamer too )
but I'm also concerned about the S4 features like drama shot, dual shot, and air gestures etc......
There is a thread here from March which mentioned that these features will be imported to the note II
But till now I don't know whether it's true or not.
Another Q: will a 8MP camera do well vs 13MP of the S4?
I need a good one to capture the text written on the board in my college from a distance (may be 7-12 meters far)
What do you think?
S4 or Note II?
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mate..if you dont want to use s-pen,just buy the s4..simple as that..overall performance s4 win

Simply Note 2, FAR better than S4 im my opinion, it doesn't lag on Asphalt 8 or other games you can get all features of S4 and also pen functions and if u install DN3 ROM u can get many note3 features too, as for performance never had a problem with Note2 fast and smooth and pretty good battery considering

bunglebp said:
Simply Note 2, FAR better than S4 im my opinion, it doesn't lag on Asphalt 8 or other games you can get all features of S4 and also pen functions and if u install DN3 ROM u can get many note3 features too, as for performance never had a problem with Note2 fast and smooth and pretty good battery considering
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But on Antutu the i9505 4G version on the JB 4.3 got about 28k while the note 2 got about 17k only
Also about the camera... S4 is a way better I think

AhmadLight said:
But on Antutu the i9505 4G version on the JB 4.3 got about 28k while the note 2 got about 17k only
Also about the camera... S4 is a way better I think
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If you don't care about the much better battery, bigger screen and the s pen go for the s4.

Just got rid of my s4 to return to the wonderful note 2, to be honest a lot of the s4 stuff is pure gimmick, the temperature sensor is next to useless as it is effected by the heat of the device and you holding it, the barometer similar, the extra camera features are fun for a few goes, but are never used again, the screen maybe clear and high res, but the notes is nice and large and plenty resolution for anyone, in fact some things seem to open quicker. But overall my love of the spen wins the deal.

Don't think so... It seems like, Samsung isn't going to give us, even basic Note 3 features like Air Command. But i'm sure our devs will bring camera to our Note 2; like they brought us too many in last 2-3 weeks. I'm not expecting so much from Samsungby the means of software. They will give us the base, XDA devs will do the rest :laugh:

I've been using DN3 4.3 for a few days now and it's really stable, Air command is awesome. I have a Note II AT&T, I actually thought about upgrading to an S4 but I got brave n' rooted my Note II and played with ROMs ( backed up with TB First ) and I'm sticking to Note II for sure.
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Is our beloved Note 2 dead or dying?

I've noticed over the last few months that Note 2 support has been waning. Every Marshmallow rom that I try on my phone, something doesn't work, GPS, Wifi, NFC, Camera.. etc. Lollipop is ok but has a few bugs in it and the only rom I can keep on my phone without it going south is SLimKat 4.4 (2014). Was just wondering what people's thoughts are on our trusted device and just mainly looking for condolence from the Note 2 family..

I'm just getting started. I've done a lot on this phone in the little time I've had it. There's so much to do on it even if support was to die that wouldn't kill the phone.

haro25 said:
I'm just getting started. I've done a lot on this phone in the little time I've had it. There's so much to do on it even if support was to die that wouldn't kill the phone.
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Nice. The note 2 is a very solid phone.. I've had mine since it came out (i605) and running a 317 att ROM.. Very versatile phone. I'm still using the same battery it came with. Thank you for responding
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There finally an official version of CM13 for the Note 2 t0lte/t0lteatt/t0ltecan http://get.cm/?device=t0lte latest is "cm-13.0-20160508-NIGHTLY-t0lte.zip"

Don't give up on our Note 2!
Some general thoughts after using it, leaving it, and returning to it more than once:
If you already have a Note 2 or can get one free/cheap, there's no obvious reason Note 3/4/5 will be worth hundreds more. Newer Notes have a better camera and screen, and I'd probably enjoy using the S-Pen on physical buttons like those can, but are those $400/$500 reasons?
No matter what the spec-chasers tell you, Note 2 has plenty of speed for today and at least the near future. Look up YouTube speed comparison videos. There's maybe a one- or two-second delay, tops, compared to newer Notes. I can live with that. The difference ain't worth $600 or a new two-year contract.
As for Android OS, just stick with themed KitKat for the Note 2. It's tested, proven, and operates just like newer OS's to the untrained eye, including tons of their features. If you simply must have Doze or another newer-only feature, then yeah, maybe it's time to get a new phone, but again, those features aren't worth letting go of a great phone like our Note 2.
Final word: You mentioned waning updates in Note 2 forums. Have you tried the N7100/N7105 forum lately? It's still a party over there. In the past, we couldn't use those ROMs on North American (LTE) variants of the Note 2, but with the N7100ToNote2LTE Patch , we can now use all the ROMs in that section, if you didn't already know.
Overall, if you like the Note 2, keep liking it! There's no reason to let it go and every reason to keep enjoying it for the foreseeable future.

*\_-the force is strong with jedi-_/*
drarkanex said:
I've noticed over the last few months that Note 2 support has been waning. Every Marshmallow rom that I try on my phone, something doesn't work, GPS, Wifi, NFC, Camera.. etc. Lollipop is ok but has a few bugs in it and the only rom I can keep on my phone without it going south is SLimKat 4.4 (2014). Was just wondering what people's thoughts are on our trusted device and just mainly looking for condolence from the Note 2 family..
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for your main line phone as being a N2 , I would use Jedi .
I have a N1 , N2 & N4 . Since my N4 is daily driver those Liquid Roms dont fully function , never did . 4G just gone & ****.
So , Stock N4 , TWRP between whatever , Whenever , cause Liquid is FAST , and cool .
BTW , I just bought another Note 2 just for another battery and Pen. :good:
Post some Emulators , good stands or holders for a Note. I broke my little tripod ( i called it Roger ) LoL.
Spare Phones are more than just a Phone Yo ! One guy was telling me you can stash your spare while your gone , install motion detection ,
Snap , sends message via WiFi from home. I found out who , well What was happening while I was gone to a certain something of mine.
Somebody post a link to that **** , its cool stuff yo.
I gotta 1000000 to do list 2 DAY . LaTeR yO ! ....EnJoY your PS3 controllers :highfive: with Sixaxis from the PlayStore :victory:
PASSWORD
KJOA
all caps , .Knights and Jesters Of Atlanta.
Tikiflame , statrted iit , hahahahahahs.

I hate to bump and old topic, but a member just uploaded a smooth rom to the board and i'm running it on my i605 now, works really well. If there are any note 2 users out there, you should try it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-2/development-n7105/rom-miui-8-gt-n7105-i317-t3496737

I still use Note 2 with 4.3 as a secondary with Note 5 as a main phone. But based on the speed Samsung comes with the new models it's already Antique
With Note 7 fiasco, even Note 5 became a prevoius generation so to speak.

I just installed this...
[ROM][GT-N7100][TW 4.4.4] Eclipse By AC*v9 https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-2/development/rom-eclipse-ac-t3144182
See my post there, #11862 for details.
Very pleased...Thx E-TEAM and AC

Hell no it's not dying
I just got a new note 2 for 80 bucks off eBay.
My note one just died and I loved so much was on nougat.
Now I have a note 2 with marshmallow.. Nougat seems to be fully functional but in still going to give that one a bit to develop before flashing it.
But to answer your question
Hell no it's not dead :good:

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