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[Q] Small, tight hinges for attaching mini bluetooth keyboard to phone?

So, I have a mini bluetooth keyboard that I want to attach to my phone using the extra battery cover, epoxy, and some hinges. However, I need the hinges to be especially strong and tight as I am going to attach the keyboard backwards in a Motorola backflip-esque layout so the keyboard doesn't cover the screen. Does anybody have any idea what type of hinges I should look out for, or what type of epoxy to buy, or any other tips of the trade in something like this?

funkybunk said:
So, I have a mini bluetooth keyboard that I want to attach to my phone using the extra battery cover, epoxy, and some hinges. However, I need the hinges to be especially strong and tight as I am going to attach the keyboard backwards in a Motorola backflip-esque layout so the keyboard doesn't cover the screen. Does anybody have any idea what type of hinges I should look out for, or what type of epoxy to buy, or any other tips of the trade in something like this?
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Really? Yo your just asking to end up with a phone that looks like a three year-old put together. But maybe im just under estimating your skills. Got any pics of what your working with I would be glad to help. I've done autobody all my life and am in school now for Computer Engineering so I've got a nack for fabricating. E-mail me @ [email protected]

You want to glue the keyboard to your phone?
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nickmcminn60 said:
Really? Yo your just asking to end up with a phone that looks like a three year-old put together. But maybe im just under estimating your skills. Got any pics of what your working with I would be glad to help. I've done autobody all my life and am in school now for Computer Engineering so I've got a nack for fabricating. E-mail me @ [email protected]
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Well, I honestly don't care about the outcome because if I dislike it, I can just buy a new back cover. Hell, the phone came with two in the box if I regret it. And I'm just looking for either a hinge with a hold on itself so that it can support the phone (as I'm pretty much installing them in a way where they would normally just flap around) and some sort of material that can stick with epoxy, considering we don't have a lot of space in the phone's back cover for screws.

have you tried velcro?
also can you post the link of the keyboard you are using?
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I'm just using one of the simple mini bluetooth keyboards from amazon. I got it for $18. I like how thin and light it is.

Why not use blue tooth?
I am using my old nokia blue tooth key board.

wtf.now? said:
Why not use blue tooth?
I am using my old nokia blue tooth key board.
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...Did you read not just the title, but the actual post? I am using bluetooth for the keyboard, and now I'm attaching it with small box hinges and epoxy. Wish me luck. xD

I've seen it done before on an HD2 with the same keyboard and it didn't look half bad.

So I am almost finished with it and my results were satisfactory. I messed up a lot so there is a lot of extra epoxy and it doesn't look too good at the moment, but if I can find epoxy remover that is plastic-safe I could clean it up a bit more. Another issue is the way it was positioned that made me have to redo the entire thing. If you bring the keyboard too close to the edge of the phone, it won't fold all the way out and will hit the volume buttons. That is because of the curved design of the phone. I'm thinking of going over the whole thing with spraypaint once I get extra money, as I also had to use aluminum pieces to compensate for the small size of the hinges to attach it to the back (It won't work attaching them from the sides.) When I get it cleaned up (or not, if I can not have people in the thread going "zomg you just ruined your vibrant gtfo") I can post pictures of the basic hinge design I did. If you want to try it yourself, know what you're getting into because the vibrant isn't as square as the hd2.

http://www.amazon.com/Stowaway-Ultr...KCXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1300629708&sr=8-1

funkybunk said:
...Did you read not just the title, but the actual post? I am using bluetooth for the keyboard, and now I'm attaching it with small box hinges and epoxy. Wish me luck. xD
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d00d the nokia blue tooth keyboard comes with a cell phone stand so you stand your cell in your keyboard.
Its what I use. and trust me I use my cell as it was a laptop. I do a lot of remote work from it including shh.
http://www.nokiausa.com/find-produc...eless-keyboards/nokia-wireless-keyboard-su-8w
Just saying.

wtf.now? said:
d00d the nokia blue tooth keyboard comes with a cell phone stand so you stand your cell in your keyboard.
Its what I use. and trust me I use my cell as it was a laptop. I do a lot of remote work from it including shh.
http://www.nokiausa.com/find-produc...eless-keyboards/nokia-wireless-keyboard-su-8w
Just saying.
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It has no use to me, considering I already purchased and attached the keyboard and the keyboard is supposed to be for text messaging mostly, and carrying a bigger bluetooth keyboard is just inconvenient for me.

best of luck i'd like to try this too

Are these keyboards any good ?

So I got a 10.1v model, not the standard 10.1 so pretty much any keyboard that would need the tab to slide into it is a no-go for me as the 10.1v is a few milliliters thicker.
So, unless you point me to anything else, this is the only keyboard I've encountered that I could use that is somewhat "tied" to the tablet :
http://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/270895288302?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
These are chinese products and I'm afraid of its quality, but I don't have a choice.
Did one of you guys purchased one of these ? Are they any good ?
I tried to find something but nothing...I could go with a "floating" bluetooth keyboard is the quality is better.
Thanks !

I used this one for while, until I returned it- no complaints. I just didn't need it.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tabl...8N7M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1331081016&sr=8-2
Here's a quick look at it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G-y4XecRYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I use the original Keyboard Dock since yesterday, ordered for 60 euros, and its awesome.. Dont use china rubbish!
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Samsung BKC-1B1DEBGXEG
I have the original Keyboard-Case combo, meaning this:
uh can't post links, so here is the name: Samsung BKC-1B1DEBGXEG Bluetooth keyboard ...
Go out and buy it, it's awesome!
Bluetooth connection is really easy, it has a fast wake up (and you can wake your device up by pressing any key [this even unlocks a non-protection screenlock] whoo!) and a humongous long battery duration.
Additionally, the build quality is very fine!
Rate it 6 of 5 stars

Got this case for $60 at Target. works great.
http://www.target.com/p/Samsung-Galaxy-Keyboard-Case/-/A-13738199

Thinking that this might be stupid / crazy..
Well, I dont know whether this is the best thread to post this.. Please let me know if there's any other thread that to which this post has to be moved..
So my crazy / stupid question is ---
Has anyone tried using the asus keyboard dock with the samsung galaxy tab ?
I think this may be something stupid becoz i am already thinking that the charging port for both the tabs are totally different and this may not work at all..
Still I am just curious to know whether this has been tried by anybody...

DannyBiker said:
So I got a 10.1v model, not the standard 10.1 so pretty much any keyboard that would need the tab to slide into it is a no-go for me as the 10.1v is a few milliliters thicker.
So, unless you point me to anything else, this is the only keyboard I've encountered that I could use that is somewhat "tied" to the tablet :
http://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/270895288302?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
These are chinese products and I'm afraid of its quality, but I don't have a choice.
Did one of you guys purchased one of these ? Are they any good ?
I tried to find something but nothing...I could go with a "floating" bluetooth keyboard is the quality is better.
Thanks !
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To answer the OP's question... I just got one from eBay for $26 US. It works very well. For that much money, it's hard to beat. Your CDMA GT should fit in it just fine. Both the keybaord and the case are good quality, and can't be beat for that much money.
I do see one potential problem, however. When the case is latched closed the rubber (soft plastic) bracket that supports the base of the tablet comes into contact the screen and does exert a slight amount of pressure on the screen. Over time I am guessing that may damage the screen, but I'm just guessing - not sure about that at all.
Actually, I like the standard Samsung book case the best for the Galaxy Tab, and I don't always need the keyboard. So I'm going to take the little rubber keyboard out of this case and carry that separately. For $26, even that is a great buy.
This case/keyboard is sold under a bunch of brand names. Here is a bunch of reviews on Amazon, if you like to read them.

Hey Dan,
I've been using the Mobile Keyboard 6000 from Microsoft for a few weeks now.
The price is a bit overkill but sure worth the quality you get. And the number pad being detached from the letters is a nice feature if your on the go all the time, leaving the number pad behind is sometimes a plus. It is slightly bigger then the tablet itself but i don't mind since also use it for at home.
Ive been rocking the typing book cover for 2 days now, and so far i like it aside from a few things. But its not putting me off of it with its sleek tight fit.
The main issue is that there is no place to hold a stylus. (PS definitely worth the 20 bones to pick one up) and second, when it is being held in its typing arrangement, you cannot have anything plugged in besides the headphones. It does have a small slit so that the headphone jack doesn't have to be removed and put back in every time but they didn't do the same for the charger/accessory port.
Cheers!

KCHawkeye02 said:
Got this case for $60 at Target. works great.
http://www.target.com/p/Samsung-Galaxy-Keyboard-Case/-/A-13738199
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I just picked the same one up at Target for $30 on clearance yesterday. Not a fan and I wouldn't recommend it. The cookie-sheet case feels flimsy and it doesn't protect the back of the tablet at all. The metal edges are kind of sharp (not knife sharp) but I have to be careful not to scratch the sides of my tab when putting it face down in this case. I also don't feel that it's very secured when closed (tablet face down). The keyboard works alright, it's very responsive, and it pairs easily and maintains it's connection, but some of the dedicated buttons don't work. I also would rather re-map some of the android keys such as the email button to open gmail. Maybe I can, but haven't looked into it. I guess it's ok if you're looking for a cheap bluetooth keyboard, but I don't trust it to protect my tablet. Idk how logitech justified this as a $100 case.
**edit** Been using this case with the blueputdroid app on my phone as a mouse and am loving it!

BT S Pen

HM5100, e.g.
http://www.crazyengineers.com/samsung-bt-s-pen-comes-with-galaxy-note-10-1-and-surprises-all-2639/
I wonder if it will come in black, too...

Amazing, I'm getting one

I wonder if it can be stored within the tablet like the stock s pen...?
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Neokazaki said:
I wonder if it can be stored within the tablet like the stock s pen...?
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I doubt it. It's probably housing the 10.1 Note's S Pen inside, though.

Looks to big. Better to be in top pocket anyway if its bt to the phone

oh wow, this looks awesome!
i wouldn't even have to bring my phone to school anymore. i'll just leave my tablet in my backpack and have the bt pen clipped onto my shirt or something. when i feel it vibrate, i can just answer my call through the pen . i might look kinda weird to others when they see me, but i don't care!

Evo 4G63 said:
oh wow, this looks awesome!
i wouldn't even have to bring my phone to school anymore. i'll just leave my tablet in my backpack and have the bt pen clipped onto my shirt or something. when i feel it vibrate, i can just answer my call through the pen . i might look kinda weird to others when they see me, but i don't care!
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if you leave your phone at home how would you make the phone calls...

voxano said:
HM5100, e.g.
http://www.crazyengineers.com/samsung-bt-s-pen-comes-with-galaxy-note-10-1-and-surprises-all-2639/
I wonder if it will come in black, too...
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Cool pen. I wish it was Bluetooth 4.0

truthkillszz said:
if you leave your phone at home how would you make the phone calls...
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from the tablet...

voxano said:
I doubt it. It's probably housing the 10.1 Note's S Pen inside, though.
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Can somebody tell.

I don't think many people actually own this at the moment:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838111
, but from the looks of it, it's safe to say that it won't fit into the 10.1 Note's pen slot:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/15/samsung-bt-hm5100-s-pen-hands-on/
The "nib" looks more like 10.1's tip rather than the one on the 5.3 Note, but it may or may not actually house the 10.1's pen inside. Not sure this last part matters, anyway...

really cool pen! I wonder how much it costs?

rayandreas said:
really cool pen! I wonder how much it costs?
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There are quite a few for sale on ebay now, from $100 to $200 ...
And some people here already baught it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838111

I just ordered this item. I'm excited to see how it works with the tablet.

I'm confused. This is a pen that:
> Does the samething as the S Pen already included
> It has a mic, speaker and answer-call button
> It connects with your phone via BT
> You can answer a call that got to your phone, while you're using the tablet???
So what is the justification. It's not like your phone is never handy and the tablet always is... Imagine this scenario:
Your are at work at your desk minding your own business doing whatever you do with your tablet. A call comes in, more than likely your phone is in your pocket or on top of your desk, so you can see a call is coming. So, instead of picking up your phone, you press the lil button on the pen because the pen is already in your hand and you're too lazy to reach for your phone. So, imagine that in the middle of the conversation you are given details you need to jot down, you can't put down the BT S Pen to write a memo on your Note 10.1 because that's where the call is coming from, so you either grab your old S Pen or common pen and paper.
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So what did I miss? You can't even use this pen while the old S Pen is in the Note's silo. I've tried to use my other Wacom pen while the S Pen is in the hole and there is no way it gets registered.
So, somebody please enlighten me what benefits will I get if I shell out another 200 bucks on this pen.
Ron

+1 My thoughts exactly.

Turn off battery saving in pen settings? Try 3rd party pen again. Profit.

Nefariouss said:
Turn off battery saving in pen settings? Try 3rd party pen again. Profit.
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I have Google voice. I thought it would be more convenient to answer the call over talk atone, not my phone, when say I'm in the other room. Or don't want to run to the other room to get the phone. My google voice always rings before my phone, too. Doesn't fit but my case has the s pen holder.
That being said, I think Samsung was trying to be innovative (or expand on an idea originally posed by Asus). Nifty feature. Some will see it as useful, others a toy.
I'm sure I could say the same as what's the point of a Bluetooth headset? But I think **** Tracey would like this!

Better for 007.

just got my pen and took it out of the box. instructions are in chinese so they are of no help. Doesn't seem to work. I figured it should work out of the box like the s pen, but it doesn't. I have it charging now, but why would that make a difference?
Can anyone that has one lend me a hand?
update...
so you have to take the original C Pen out of the tablet for it to register...

What if...in place of the note's stylus pen, we get a bluetooth headset?

Wouldn't that be amazing? A headset that you are less likely to loose, it will always be there fully charged when you need it and tucked away when you don't.
What do you think?

lol no.

Not for me thanks

http://www.amazon.com/Original-Samsung-Bluetooth-Headset-BHM5100KWKG/dp/B009V6B7L0
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No thanks. The s-pen is not a stylus, it is a piece of technology allowing for precise actions a stylus could never achieve.
Being able to see what I am about to touch, exactly, before I touch it makes working with cad documents so much easier.
The s-pen was a majority of my decision to get the note 2.

inspron said:
Wouldn't that be amazing? A headset that you are less likely to loose, it will always be there fully charged when you need it and tucked away when you don't.
What do you think?
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Didn't the last Asus Padphone have a stylus that was also a bluetooth headset? I remember the CEO on stage during the announcement making a big deal about it.
So maybe the OP can have his cake and eat it too. Stylus and headset all in one.
EDIT: Yup, here it is.
http://www.asus.com/sg/Tablet_Mobile_Accessories/PadFone_Stylus_Headset

Accessory Recommendations

I'm looking for a few things for my new P600, but not really turning anything up. Hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
1. Is there a dock charger for this device? I thought I saw one that might work, but curious to know what others might be using.
2. What usb cord can I use instead of the included one that is way too short. Will any work or does it need to be "special"?
3. Alternate pens? I have tiny hands but I can't stop from clicking that button while writing.

1. don't know
2. any cord will work
3. no , which button?

3. Turn your Note AT 180°

Ok, so here is the charger I'm considering: Samsung Desktop Dock (EE-D100TNWEGUJ); found at Amazon.com; There seem to be mixed reviews as to whether it works or not. Has anyone here tried it with success? I've found other 3rd party ones, but again nothing to determine absolutely if they work.
Next, I found one of my longer USB cords and it did work with the charger. So, that was helpful.
As for the stylus - I'm not talking about the button on the tablet itself, I keep accidentally pressing the little button on the stylus which then opens the s-pen wheel, or causes other issues. I've read that other wacom pens might work, but those posts were 2 years old. I'm not sure what's available now.

1.There are many and various kind of micro usb charing and sync on Amazon and Ebay, but it's annoying when you want to pick the tablet up,so I recommend you to just buy any simple tablet stand and turn your tablet 180°. In this way, you're also able to turn you tablet vertically to open some documents aside you while charging.
2.I'm using Moshi's micro usb cable wih 3 metres long which I don't have to be worried about where the plug is anymore. However, due to length of the cable and high power consuming of the tablet(because of 2K screen and other), if I play some high graphic games like asphalt8, it won't charge but just slow down the percentage.
I tried this cable with other smartphone, there is no problem with charging speed as 1m metre.
I bought it from iStudio(an authorized Apple retailler in my country) at around 25$
http://www.moshi.com/cable-data-sync-usb-micro-usb-3m
3.I'm using Wacom Bamboo Smart which is compatible with any Galaxy Note. Unfortunately , no eraser tip.
Compare to original Spen, there is nothing change much but almost real writing feel because of size of the pen.
I'm prefered this one more than the original spen.
http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/stylus/bamboo-smart-for-samsung-galaxy-note

Thanks for the pen recommendation, that looks terrific and the price seems reasonable.
As for charging... right now I do put the note upside down so I can plug the charger on top, but the annoying thing to me is that the buttons are now moved to the top. I wish they were software buttons and not hardware. This is beginning to be a problem with me as I am always having to reorient myself every time I rotate the tablet. Not to mention not being able to access the volume/power buttons underneath. I thought a dock could perhaps keep the tablet in the mode that it's intended.

Hey I'm not sure if you've made your decisions, but I would like to add my $0.02.
1. The Samsung Desktop Dock is what I'm using right now to charge my tablet overnight. The microUSB port is placed on a flexible platform that slightly bends back and forward to aid in tablet placement, but I would be careful just in case. Also the dock might not fit most cases unless its a ultraslim tpu case. But if you have the official book cover, it fits without any problems.
2. I think most cords would work.
3. The Wacom Bamboo pen, if I'm not wrong, was mentioned often in threads for S-Pen alternatives. The earlier models (V1?) had a considerable amount of offset while the second version was more improved. Personally, I have stuck an extra S-Pen in a Pilot G-2 pen and it works awesomely, lol.
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davidnam88 said:
Hey I'm not sure if you've made your decisions, but I would like to add my $0.02.
1. The Samsung Desktop Dock is what I'm using right now to charge my tablet overnight. The microUSB port is placed on a flexible platform that slightly bends back and forward to aid in tablet placement, but I would be careful just in case. Also the dock might not fit most cases unless its a ultraslim tpu case. But if you have the official book cover, it fits without any problems.
2. I think most cords would work.
3. The Wacom Bamboo pen, if I'm not wrong, was mentioned often in threads for S-Pen alternatives. The earlier models (V1?) had a considerable amount of offset while the second version was more improved. Personally, I have stuck an extra S-Pen in a Pilot G-2 pen and it works awesomely, lol.
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Can you do a step by step of your g2 mod? That sounds amazing. I tried the full sized Samsung pen, and it was alright.pilot g2s are awesome though and I never lose them, unlike that Samsung pe

dougiefresh181 said:
Can you do a step by step of your g2 mod? That sounds amazing. I tried the full sized Samsung pen, and it was alright.pilot g2s are awesome though and I never lose them, unlike that Samsung pe
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This is the mod I used for the G-2 pen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49496454&postcount=125
It's a seemingly simple mod, but I recall that shoving the s-pen in the G-2 pen took a considerable amount of force, so be careful of that.
I also didn't do the second part to access the s-pen button because the rubber part is a PITA to remove lol.

davidnam88 said:
This is the mod I used for the G-2 pen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49496454&postcount=125
It's a seemingly simple mod, but I recall that shoving the s-pen in the G-2 pen took a considerable amount of force, so be careful of that.
I also didn't do the second part to access the s-pen button because the rubber part is a PITA to remove lol.
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Thanks, broski, udaman

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Thanks, broski, udaman
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No problem man. Good luck.
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If you are still interested in a full-size pen, I got model form this site:
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...amsung-stylus-s-pen-f-borracha-tablet-101-_JM
It works very well, including the back that works as an eraser. Try find in your area!
Edit: Found on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Sams...&qid=1384153340&sr=8-5&keywords=samsung+s+pen