I have rooted my fire before using the method from this thread here. So I realized the main reason I wanted to root it was to get the marketplace. Now I know with 6.2.2 you could use "Superoneclick" then after installing the marketplace and changing permissions you could then use SOC(superoneclick) to "Unroot" the device and yet still keep the google market.
My question is, using the KF Utility for 6.3 by Teamwin, can you succesfully unroot the device and still keep the market like you could with 6.2 or has this ability been broken. As you can tell I have done some research and to no avail have found anyone saying how to unroot a 6.3 KF and yet still keep google market. Also, if this is possible is Google Play also possible and perhaps Google Books
Thanks (sorry if this is answered somewhere I did a search on the forum and didn't find anything to these specific items)
NOTE: I do know you can sideload apps but I heard sideloading the market is next to impossible without first rooting the device.
Scizzer85 said:
I have rooted my fire before using the method from this thread here. So I realized the main reason I wanted to root it was to get the marketplace. Now I know with 6.2.2 you could use "Superoneclick" then after installing the marketplace and changing permissions you could then use SOC(superoneclick) to "Unroot" the device and yet still keep the google market.
My question is, using the KF Utility for 6.3 by Teamwin, can you succesfully unroot the device and still keep the market like you could with 6.2 or has this ability been broken. As you can tell I have done some research and to no avail have found anyone saying how to unroot a 6.3 KF and yet still keep google market. Also, if this is possible is Google Play also possible and perhaps Google Books
Thanks (sorry if this is answered somewhere I did a search on the forum and didn't find anything to these specific items)
NOTE: I do know you can sideload apps but I heard sideloading the market is next to impossible without first rooting the device.
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just use the utility you used to root KFU and you can load the google apps with it
DJLamontagneIII said:
just use the utility you used to root KFU and you can load the google apps with it
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I understand that. I am trying to have the Google/Android Market be on the unrooted KF 6.3 OS. I would post the article but I don't have enough posts yet lol. The article is on Lilputing though. The article title is "How to sideload apps (even the Android Market) on the Amazon Kindle Fire". They are using SuperOneClick (which apparently doesn't work with 6.3) and in using SOC they quickly root the device, install the things they want, then unroot using SOC and keep everything.
My question is, is this possible on 6.3 using KFU or is SuperOneClick now supported for 6.3...
Yes you can. Root with KFU. Side load the market (google play) as a system app along with the Google framework and once every thing works download OTARootkeeper and install.
You can then unroot an re-root at will.
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bfayer said:
Yes you can. Root with KFU. Side load the market (google play) as a system app along with the Google framework and once every thing works download OTARootkeeper and install.
You can then unroot an re-root at will.
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Ok. Thanks. I have heard of OTARootkeeper but thought it just mimicked a Root/Unroot device. I didn't know if that would work with 6.3. I am surprised there isn't an article out there discussing my specific question. I thought it would be a common thing to ask. Thank you though I will give that a try.
Edit: I haven't done this just yet to test but my end goal was to have the KF unrooted and still have access to the android market. Using OTARk makes it seem like if I want the android market I just "quick root" it back to get it. I may be misunderstood what "root" really means when it comes to the KF.
Here is a better way of explaining.
1. Download Google play store and Googleservicesframework. Apk
2. Move the Google play store to system/apps
3. Install Googleservicesframework apk like a normal application.
4. Reboot your device
5. The play store should work. Now you may unroot your device.
Kindle Fire running CM9 Reloaded
New developer, working on my own custom rom
Daevionne said:
Here is a better way of explaining.
1. Download Google play store and Googleservicesframework. Apk
2. Move the Google play store to system/apps
3. Install Googleservicesframework apk like a normal application.
4. Reboot your device
5. The play store should work. Now you may unroot your device.
Kindle Fire running CM9 Reloaded
New developer, working on my own custom rom
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Thanks for all the help and clarifying. One last question. To unroot do you suggest using OTAKroot or is there a way to make a more "solid" unroot and yet still keep the play store? Again thanks for quick helpful responses everyone.
I suggest OTA root keeper. Its the only way I know to unroot your device. If you like the answer I gave you hit the "thanks" button
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
Daevionne said:
I suggest OTA root keeper. Its the only way I know to unroot your device. If you like the answer I gave you hit the "thanks" button
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
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Ok so I have everything done however it's not the exact result I was hoping/expecting. I was wanting the main stock look of the KF but with the market installed and working. Right now I have unrooted but am having trouble figuring out how to get back to my Amazon KF stock launcher and my Amazon Prime videos.
Edit: I can't figure out how to get to my Amazon bookshelf anymore. I have the Amazon App store and Kindle App from the market but how do I get back to the amazon bookshelf?
Scizzer85 said:
Ok so I have everything done however it's not the exact result I was hoping/expecting. I was wanting the main stock look of the KF but with the market installed and working. Right now I have unrooted but am having trouble figuring out how to get back to my Amazon KF stock launcher and my Amazon Prime videos.
Edit: I can't figure out how to get to my Amazon bookshelf anymore. I have the Amazon App store and Kindle App from the market but how do I get back to the amazon bookshelf?
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You have to clarify a bit more for me...
1. Is the play store up and working?
2. Did you download any custom launchers?
3. Did you download any custom lockscreens?
4. The steps you took were root, installed market, unroot, correct ?
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
Daevionne said:
You have to clarify a bit more for me...
1. Is the play store up and working?
2. Did you download any custom launchers?
3. Did you download any custom lockscreens?
4. The steps you took were root, installed market, unroot, correct ?
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
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Play store is working. I tried Go Launcher to see if I could get the Default Launcher through there. No lockscreens. It is currently with CM7 unrooted via OTA Rootkeeper. But when I rebooted after unrooting it I had the CM7 android interface still. Not KF default interface.
This video is what I essentially was trying to accomplish. He has the Launcher.apk but it seems to not work on CM7 or at least not 6.3. Right now, I can't get to the instant video screen or bookshelf at all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q655g1RHgU
This video was from November, that was before 6.2 :/ I think this method is outdated... sorry
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
Scizzer85 said:
Play store is working. I tried Go Launcher to see if I could get the Default Launcher through there. No lockscreens. It is currently with CM7 unrooted via OTA Rootkeeper. But when I rebooted after unrooting it I had the CM7 android interface still. Not KF default interface.
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So you not only rooted but you installed a custom ROM.
That's a whole other story.
To get what you want you need to restore your original ROM from backup. Reroot with KFU. Side load the framework and market and unroot with OTA rootkeeper. You should have made a backup from restore before you installed CM7.
Do not repeat do not upgrade the kindle reader from the market if you wish to keep using the original launcher.
It would help if we knew why you wanted to be un rooted.
Rooting only gives you access to your file system. The only custom softwear you need is superuser. Unrooting with OTA rootkeeper just makes a backup of SU and then removes it. You can then watch movies etc. But when you need root back you just restore your SU backup in OTA rootkeeper.
Why do you need to permanantly unroot ?
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Since you are loading ROMs, I'd recommend MoDaCo rom. It's the closest to stock with the play store already added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916
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Keep stock, root, add SU, (and add go launcher if you want) Just add a shortcut to the kindle launcher. Unroot. Then you can switch back and forth. Simplest way.
I sideloaded the market app with file expert when I was happy with stock.
Though I don't know why you insist on unrooting.
Cheshire.Love said:
Since you are loading ROMs, I'd recommend MoDaCo rom. It's the closest to stock with the play store already added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916
Another option
Keep stock, root, add SU, (and add go launcher if you want) Just add a shortcut to the kindle launcher. Unroot. Then you can switch back and forth. Simplest way.
I sideloaded the market app with file expert when I was happy with stock.
Though I don't know why you insist on unrooting.
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I guess I misunderstood what rooting really meant. So I can use KFU to root the device but after doing so DO NOT install CM7 and instead just sideload google market and once installed just use it to install any apps but at the same time since CM7 wouldn't be installed I would be seeing the basic interface from KF as it is stock?
Scizzer85 said:
I guess I misunderstood what rooting really meant. So I can use KFU to root the device but after doing so DO NOT install CM7 and instead just sideload google market and once installed just use it to install any apps but at the same time since CM7 wouldn't be installed I would be seeing the basic interface from KF as it is stock?
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Correct. You do not need to do anything after you root unless you want to. Everything on your KF will stay stock. I would recommend you flash a recovery (I prefer CWM) that way you can reload your backup if you need to. Whst I would do is root install firefirefire and CWM. Reboot to CWM and backup everything. Then load the framework and market. When you root make sure SU is properly installed before you move ahead. You will need a copy of root explorer or another file manager to make this all happen with the least pain.
Remember if you keep the stock launcher DO NOT update the kindle reader from the market. The stock KF reader is not the same as the market version but the market will see it as an old version and try to get you to update it.
I run both the stock launcher and go launcher. I keep a shortcut to the stock launcher on my go launcher dock and a shortcut to go launcher on my stock dock. I toggle between them as needed.
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bfayer said:
Correct. You do not need to do anything after you root unless you want to. Everything on your KF will stay stock. I would recommend you flash a recovery (I prefer CWM) that way you can reload your backup if you need to. Whst I would do is root install firefirefire and CWM. Reboot to CWM and backup everything. Then load the framework and market. When you root make sure SU is properly installed before you move ahead. You will need a copy of root explorer or another file manager to make this all happen with the least pain.
Remember if you keep the stock launcher DO NOT update the kindle reader from the market. The stock KF reader is not the same as the market version but the market will see it as an old version and try to get you to update it.
I run both the stock launcher and go launcher. I keep a shortcut to the stock launcher on my go launcher dock and a shortcut to go launcher on my stock dock. I toggle between them as needed.
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I followed everything except CWM. Is that something similar to KFU as far as how to root it or is that like the TWRP that I had before for recovery? And thanks for explaining all this.
It is like TWRP. A recovery program. I like it much better. But it does the same thing.
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Ok. After some tweaking I now have reset the device back to factory settings. Re-rooted, used CWM for backup/recovery. I used the MoDaCo and successfully installed the Google Play store. Installed OTA rootkeeper and used it to "temp unroot" my device. I was hoping this would give me access to the "Watch Now" on the Amazon Video but it still is greyed out. Truth be told, I got the month free of Prime for getting the KF but I probably won't continue to pay. Regardless, is that the only feature that I can't get with the rooted device? If so, then I am to say, happy for sure.
Kindle fire utility 0.9.5 did not root my kindle fire..
Guys here's what happened..I downloaded kfu 0.9.5(which is the latest available)....I assume that I had set up adb as kindle fire utility showed adb status as online and boot status as 4000..and I selected set up permanent root...it downloaded and installed twrp itself which is working perfectly alright..then I wanted to install google play and go launcher ex..play didn't install and go launcher got installed..when I installed titanium backup and set Cpu both applications said failed to get root access..but when I selected to set up permanent root account kfu said ur kindle fire has been rooted..with great power comes great responsibility..
What did I do wrong?please help...amazon app store is not available in my region...
In the KFU thread there are a few very helpful posts to straighten this out but it requires physically moving things,changing permissions etc... without KFU magically doing everything behind the scenes.I think page 122 and 124 will be helpful and also another page later in the thread also that I forgot to write down.I'm not sure(maybe someone else can verify?) but you could try to flash one of the new Roms with the built in gapps and you'd probablly be ok that way too.
Wouldn't it make sense to ask this in the kfu thread and wait patiently for help? Or you could ask in the q & a forum. The development forum is for thread pettainkng to developing something for the kindle, such as a rom, kernel, or utility. In the future direction this to the right place and people will be much happier to help you.
Did you make sure you have su installed? You may be rooted, but without the su app so that you can give rooted apps permissions.
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mspallz said:
Kindle fire utility 0.9.5 did not root my kindle fire..
Guys here's what happened..I downloaded kfu 0.9.5(which is the latest available)....I assume that I had set up adb as kindle fire utility showed adb status as online and boot status as 4000..and I selected set up permanent root...it downloaded and installed twrp itself which is working perfectly alright..then I wanted to install google play and go launcher ex..play didn't install and go launcher got installed..when I installed titanium backup and set Cpu both applications said failed to get root access..but when I selected to set up permanent root account kfu said ur kindle fire has been rooted..with great power comes great responsibility..
What did I do wrong?please help...amazon app store is not available in my region...
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I had the same problem rooting my 6.3 KF, I could get SU installed, but it would revert back to unrooted stock upon boot. So, instead I just installed twrp using the KFU, then I flashed a custom ROM and it works perfectly. If you want to stay stock I recommend Stock+ or Modaco, although I was having some issues getting Modaco to keep root. Best of luck.
Thread reported so it can be moved out of the dev section and so you dont get flamed!
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Hi, so given that this is my first post here I tried to read through all the noob-guides and search for similar issues, but the effort was ultimately fruitless so I had to create this thread. Hopefully I was not merely incompetent and the question has not been asked a million times already.
So the problem I am facing is that when I enter the GO Launcher market most of the apps tell me "Your device isn't compatible with this version". This is really annoying because the reason I did the root was to gain access to the market/apps. My Kindle Fire was bought as a gift in the US and as such I cannot use the stock market without an American credit card (I am European), fair enough as long as I can get the root solution to work.
So this is what I did:
I rooted the Fire using this guide: Guide had to be removed from post because of posting restrictions for new users
which means I used Kindle Fire Utility, and that whole process went well. Then I did the "install google apps" option within KFU. This apparently installed GO Launcher Ex which I guess must be the way to get the stock ROM to accept the google market. I booted using GO Launcher Ex and all appeared to be well until I accessed the market and almost all the apps told me that "Your device isn't compatible with this version".
I have tried to find a solution on my own, and most places seem to indicate that the problem is that the dpi has been changed. Those topics were also based on different tablet/pdf-readers/phones or different ROMs, thus I did not ask this question in those topics. The problem with saying that the dpi must have been changed is that I have not manually changed it, and I cannot find the option to change it on my Kindle Fire either.
Hopefully one of you savvy gentlemen will be able to assist me with this as I am equal parts confused and inexperienced with rooting tablets.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Go launcher ex does not allow you to install the Google market app. It's just a launcher (the app that opens when you hit the home button)
The easiest solution for you is to install TWRP and FireFireFire and install the Modaco ROM.
veeman said:
Go launcher ex does not allow you to install the Google market app. It's just a launcher (the app that opens when you hit the home button)
The easiest solution for you is to install TWRP and FireFireFire and install the Modaco ROM.
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Thank you for your quick reply. I wish I could have linked you to the rooting-guide I used. This is what it says after it guides me through the rooting process:
"If you want to stick with the standard Kindle experience but want access to Google apps including the Play Store, Gmail app, and Google Maps, choose the option in Kindle Fire Utility marked “Extras” and then use the option for “Install Google Apps.”"
And that is exactly what I did using KFU. And that is when it installed the Go launcher ex too as far as I could tell.
I already have TWRP and FireFireFire installed through KFU, I could try installing the Modaco ROM, but are you saying that there is no way I can run apps on my rooted Kindle with the stock ROM on it? I just feel like using custom ROMs would complicate my tablet more than what is necessary when all I want is to able to use apps on it. However, if you think that is my best option given the fact that I don't expect my tablet to be capable of anything out of the ordinary, then I will give it a try!
Yes you can use it on the stock ROM. Just find the correct Google apps package and move it to your Kindle via USB. Then boot into twrp and flash it. ( that's how I've always done it. I didn't use kfu)
The Modaco ROM is exactly like the stock kindle fire ROM but it has Google apps already installed and also comes with a modified build.prop.
veeman said:
Yes you can use it on the stock ROM. Just find the correct Google apps package and move it to your Kindle via USB. Then boot into twrp and flash it. ( that's how I've always done it. I didn't use kfu)
The Modaco ROM is exactly like the stock kindle fire ROM but it has Google apps already installed and also comes with a modified build.prop.
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Just flashed Modaco ROM and it appears to work flawlessly! Thank you very much good sir! Solved :good:
I'd really appreciate some assistance on this one...
I'm attempting to unroot my Kindle HD 8.9, but it's resisting my efforts. I originally rooted using the Bin4ry method (r25), but lost it when Amazon forced 8.3.1 on me. The second time, I used Kindle Fire First Aide and then also used it to disable OTA. I've now tried unrooting it with all of these methods, yet I can still access root directories in ES FIle Explorer:
1) Unroot option in KF First Aide. Says it's successful, but it isn't.
2) Unroot option in Bin4ry. It says it fails and tells me to go into the SuperSU.apk itself and select the unroot option.
3) Unroot option in SuperSU.apk. It removes the SU app, but it doesn't unroot the device.
4) Re-enable the OTA and take the 8.4.6 build. Every time I've gotten an OTA upgrade, it has unrooted the device. This time it didn't. Now I'm running on 8.4.6 and still rooted. I reinstalled the SU app, and tried unrooting options 1-3 again, and again none of them worked.
I have done a factory reset after each one of these. None of them have made a difference.
I've also noticed that I still don't have my Amazon ads on the lockscreen. I disabled them using Kindle Fire First Aide and they didn't come back when the rest of my system apps got cleared.
Thank you in advance for any help you can provide!
You could tell kffa to do a system restore, and them from there I think if it doesn't auto-update, you can simply delete /system/app/superuser.apk and then /system/xbin/su, and possibly busy box, I think that was put on there in the rooting process, I suggest removing the su binary last as to avoid possibly getting the other files stuck on there and having to reroot.
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Thanks for your help, Stunts513!
It now appears unrooted and doesn't have superuser installed anymore, but ES File Explorer can see the root directory and change things in /system even though I have the "root" setting turned off.
I think I'm going to call it good. Everything is working fine and it looks standard to a normal user.
I have been trying to root a Kindle Fire 8.9 running 8.4.9. After I run Bin4ry it seems to work but the tablet is extremely slow and unusable. After I restore to factory settings it is fine again but of course with no root.
Can anyone offer help?? I just want to run another launcher and install apps from google play.
Thank you!
I am not a developer. I am not even particularly computer savvy, but I did this and it worked.
I have had my Kindle Fire HD 8.9 since it was released. I rooted it using Bin4ry. Somehow, the 8.4.9 update was installed and I lost root. I have had a heck of a time getting it back. I got the slow instability as well. I was unable to access google play and kept getting the "google play store has stopped" message. I was about to give up when I found this: Buildprop editor. Its available through the google play store, but of course, I couldn't access the google play store., so I searched the internet for a download of the apk. I plugged in my kindle fire and copied it to the download file. You will also need ES explorer (which is available via amazon) and a super user app, which I also had to find and install. Once I had all of these, I was able to revert back to 8.4.6. which is rootable and it cleared up my sluggishness.
I used this video for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_HyI1HuqO0
and changed everything using the applicable numbers. Obviously I couldn't use his because he was on the HDX, but the basic premise is the same.
I also have KindleFree, which is available somewhere on this forum and I purchased the upgrade from google play store.. This installs everything I need to make me happy and I can download things from google play and use a launcher instead of the kindle shelves.
This worked for me. It might not work for you and I take no responsibility for any issues you may have as a result of using this method. I performed it at my own risk and prayed a lot. I was also fully prepared to dump my kindle in the trash had it not worked.