Develop Bugs

[Q] USB rubber cover firm enough?

Hi all,
I've recently bought a DEFY. It works quite brilliantly and very fast.
I've noticed that the USB rubber cover of my DEFY is not very firm when closed. There is a little seam between it and the phone body, and the seam grows a bit thicker as it approaches the USB port side. I've included some pics of it.
Higher res pics are at
ishuo.de/images/defy1.jpeg
ishuo.de/images/defy2.jpeg
ishuo.de/images/defy3.jpeg
(Sorry I don't have enough permission to directly link pics here.)
I've also spilled some water onto it under a water tap. When I opened it I could see some water drops on the edge of the inner side of the rubber closer to the back.
I don't know whether this is normal or defect and I'm not sure whether it will stay up against water which is one of its great and practical feature.
Can anyone compare it with yours? Are all DEFYs like this?
Thank loads and happy holidays!
Cheers,
Shuo

When I close mine I am careful to press it in firmly as otherwise it looks "not quite shut." It has to squeeze in there. I presume this what's suppose to keep water out and as I have dunked my phone countless times without incident. However, if you think yours is twisted or bulging when seated, I don't think that's right.

Mine doesn't have that small hump when in place. I think there is some extra rubber under the clip.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App

s.yang said:
Hi all,
I've recently bought a DEFY. It works quite brilliantly and very fast.
I've noticed that the USB rubber cover of my DEFY is not very firm when closed. There is a little seam between it and the phone body, and the seam grows a bit thicker as it approaches the USB port side. I've included some pics of it.
Higher res pics are at
ishuo.de/images/defy1.jpeg
ishuo.de/images/defy2.jpeg
ishuo.de/images/defy3.jpeg
(Sorry I don't have enough permission to directly link pics here.)
I've also spilled some water onto it under a water tap. When I opened it I could see some water drops on the edge of the inner side of the rubber closer to the back.
I don't know whether this is normal or defect and I'm not sure whether it will stay up against water which is one of its great and practical feature.
Can anyone compare it with yours? Are all DEFYs like this?
Thank loads and happy holidays!
Cheers,
Shuo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah mines got that, you get the bump when the cover gets bent the other way when you move it to get the usb cable in

After charging mine looks like it will stay with the bulge like that when I put the cover back in place, but even so, I can press it firmly, and it actually snaps into place. Sort of even has a clicking sound. I only started noticing this as before I would press it in even, and the bulge would stay there for a while and slowly smooth itself out, but now if I press it in, and then press my thumb/finger all the way around the cover, it snaps into place very tightly.
EDIT - After looking closely at mine I see the hole is actually at an angle, so pressing it in straight would leave it with the bulge. You need to press it against the angle of the phone for it to snap into place.

bobbyphoenix said:
After looking closely at mine I see the hole is actually at an angle, so pressing it in straight would leave it with the bulge. You need to press it against the angle of the phone for it to snap into place.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
exactly what i was about to say - works for me.

Wow you are so friendly guys.
Thanks lods! I'll look into it when I come back today!

I did get a slight feel of "snap in". Just dunked it shortly into water, and it still lives!
So I guess it's all right.

I get some moisture around the USB plug hole even when the cover is in place as well. Probably not a big deal. You can try using some grease to improve the seal as well.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App

One review notes a small amount of "O-ring" sealant or grease around the battery cover rim. I supposed you could add a little. Just don't use vasoline, that's a pertroleum product and will degrade certain types of real and synthetic rubber.

Infuse car dock modification

I was uncomfortable on how close the usb connector sat with the S3 installed in the Infuse car dock. You could actually scratch the S3 bezel if you weren't careful inserting the phone into the dock. This is because the bottom of the Infuse is flat and the S3 is rounded, it makes the S3 sit ever so slightly closer to the usb connector. I took apart the dock and lengthen the "channel", trimmed the retention plate, and removed the middle retention clip that holds the rear cover on. End result is it opens up about 1.0-1.5mm more then normal making ample clearance for the S3
Attached are pictures of the modified dock..

How hard was it to remove the sliding part from the rest of the dock? I am planning to take it apart soon (after my microUSB extension cable comes in) but didnt want to try it until I knew the cable worked. It seems like it would just pop off, but I didnt want to apply too much force yet.
I just need the bottom part to maintain charging and audio out. I plan on hiding it under the dash and just using the extension cable.
Appreciate the info.
the_buzz_man

the_buzz_man said:
How hard was it to remove the sliding part from the rest of the dock? I am planning to take it apart soon (after my microUSB extension cable comes in) but didnt want to try it until I knew the cable worked. It seems like it would just pop off, but I didnt want to apply too much force yet.
I just need the bottom part to maintain charging and audio out. I plan on hiding it under the dash and just using the extension cable.
Appreciate the info.
the_buzz_man
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Getting the back cover off without breaking it is a bit tricky. There aren't any screws at all and is held in by only clips. I used two really small flay head screwdrivers and popped it up using the location of the Infuse speaker hole. I then wedged in a hobby knife it and used it to pry up all the edges until the rear popped off. Once off you'll need a #00 Philips screwdriver to remove the screws holding the retention plate on.
Here are some more pics of the modifications.
First pic: Lengthen channel and trimmed retention plate
Second pic: This is how much it opened with out any mods.
Third pic: This is how much it opens after the mods.

Good work, I've taken this apart before on the D710 mount I used previously for my Skyrocket and before I got an Infuse mount for the SIII since everyone was raving about them, but I also noticed that it was a little too close for comfort.... I've just been very careful putting it in, but as much as I drive, it's not something I'll be able to protect every time, so I know what my quick little Sunday project will be today!

I also flipped the Samsung logo around

Feel free to use any of these steps I made for the D710 dock modifications I did in order to get a Skyrocket to fit, it may help others with the disassembly of the back portion in order to get to the screws and the sliders:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24453360&postcount=52

Thanks for the tip! I couldn't get the screws loose, so I carefully dremeled the retention bracket in place. Works like a charm!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

First off, THANKS to vw671!! Soon as I get my dock, I will do this to spare my S3!
KryptosXLayer2 said:
Feel free to use any of these steps I made for the D710 dock modifications I did in order to get a Skyrocket to fit, it may help others with the disassembly of the back portion in order to get to the screws and the sliders
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any link by chance? Searched your created threads and couldn't find it... and too lazy to search more

flawedlegacy said:
Any link by chance? Searched your created threads and couldn't find it... and too lazy to search more
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I get for trying to post the link in the text on my phone! Sorry for being stupid..... Haha, here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24453360&postcount=52

lol, thanks!

sblees said:
Thanks for the tip! I couldn't get the screws loose, so I carefully dremeled the retention bracket in place. Works like a charm!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know what you mean...I had to go to the hardware store to buy a #00 screwdriver to get off the screws! I thought about doing exactly what you did, both will work.

happened to get mine moments ago.... anyone care to explain how to get the back part off exactly? I know you said two clips but where do I pry?
-also, how was the Samsung plate turned around? Already modding it, might as well do that!
EDIT: I GOT IT! -and will try to make a video!
Still interested in the Samsung plate though. tried same method with that and couldn't get it

flawedlegacy said:
happened to get mine moments ago.... anyone care to explain how to get the back part off exactly? I know you said two clips but where do I pry?
-also, how was the Samsung plate turned around? Already modding it, might as well do that!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Clip locations in attached pic.
To flip the Samsung logo around you have to get it off obviously. I used a single sided razor blade to pry it up. Then you have to trim two tabs off the back, you'll know which two when you try to put it back on.

flawedlegacy said:
happened to get mine moments ago.... anyone care to explain how to get the back part off exactly? I know you said two clips but where do I pry?
-also, how was the Samsung plate turned around? Already modding it, might as well do that!
EDIT: I GOT IT! -and will try to make a video!
Still interested in the Samsung plate though. tried same method with that and couldn't get it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The op mentioned to pry at the headphone jack but I pried it at the rectangle hole (not the usb hole).
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

sblees said:
The op mentioned to pry at the headphone jack but I pried it at the rectangle hole (not the usb hole).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did NOT say pry it from the headphone jack.
I said:
"I used two really small flay head screwdrivers and popped it up using the location of the Infuse speaker hole."
Which is the rectangular hole.

yeah, i got that after pulling my head from my @&# and actually trying. Started from the sides and worked around. Not too bad. All I used was razor and screwdriver. Tried the Samsung plate and snapped the razor, lol.
So I just noticed your "dock" part doesn't have any writing on it. Mine says "LOCK" with a triangle showing to slide it up. odd...

vw671 said:
I did NOT say pry it from the headphone jack.
I said:
"I used two really small flay head screwdrivers and popped it up using the location of the Infuse speaker hole."
Which is the rectangular hole.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, I must have misunderstood. When you said speaker hole, my first thought was the 3.5mm hole.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

flawedlegacy said:
So I just noticed your "dock" part doesn't have any writing on it. Mine says "LOCK" with a triangle showing to slide it up. odd...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
haha...waiting for someone to notice that I scratched the front surface trying to pry open the back so I sanded down the front with 2,000 grit sandpaper. I was going to buffing it back to be polished but ended up liking the matte finish. The finish looks better in person than in the pic because a flash was used...the finish sort of matches the Pebble Blue's texture.

any chance of modding it to fit it with a slim case? someone mentioned heat gun in another thread to expand it a little. thoughts?

socalwrx said:
any chance of modding it to fit it with a slim case? someone mentioned heat gun in another thread to expand it a little. thoughts?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It would have to be an ultra thin case. I'm going to try this out.
http://www.bodyguardz.com/armor-car...-iii-verizon.html?dir=asc&order=sort_priority
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

Magnetic charging dock connector pulled out of phone

Hi, I've only used a magnetic charging lead on my Z1 Compact a couple of times. To be honest, I think it's not worth the trouble as it doesn't work half the time and is hard to connect properly.
When I last removed the magnetic plug, the magnetic contacts connector on the phone came completely away from the rail of the Z1C. I had to carefully detach the magnetic charger lead from the phones dock connector so as not to damage the 2 wires inside.
I have pushed the bit back into the phone and wont be attaching magnetic connector again. It fits in snugly, but now my phone can't be waterproof any more? Has anybody else had a similar problem?
Thanks
Sent from my D5503 using XDA Free mobile app

I use the magnetic charger quite carelessly, sometimes phone just hangs on it upside down. (don't ask me, better reception when tethering wifi)
Point is - it's durable.
Looks to me a bad assembly of a phone, get it replaced if you're too concerned.

asmad said:
Hi, I've only used a magnetic charging lead on my Z1 Compact a couple of times. To be honest, I think it's not worth the trouble as it doesn't work half the time and is hard to connect properly.
When I last removed the magnetic plug, the magnetic contacts connector on the phone came completely away from the rail of the Z1C. I had to carefully detach the magnetic charger lead from the phones dock connector so as not to damage the 2 wires inside.
I have pushed the bit back into the phone and wont be attaching magnetic connector again. It fits in snugly, but now my phone can't be waterproof any more? Has anybody else had a similar problem?
Thanks
Sent from my D5503 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have been in the same situation. I bought my phone at Amazon (Germany). A special repairing company for tablets and phones solved this issue (magnetic contacts) under warranty for Amazon/Sony (hopefully). They also exchanged my back panel caused by the "flash bleed issue" for free.

lsmf said:
They also exchanged my back panel caused by the "flash bleed issue" for free.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
could you please let us know more details? I mean did they replace for the same plastic back, or what?

matthies00 said:
could you please let us know more details? I mean did they replace for the same plastic back, or what?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry for late response. I'm very busy in the moment.
Here is a photo of the new cover. Yes, it's plastic. Unfortunately, I don't have more details.
I think they exchanged the back cover and maybe the silver ring around the lens.
The support asked me about the colour of my phone and they had a solution for black phones.
I believe it's more difficult to resolve this issue for white coloured devices or other exotic colored phones.
Now, the flash light cannot longer pass through the cover, like in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50856162&postcount=1
PS: I have also put antireflex screen-protectors on both sides.

This happened to me after 4 months. Definitely a design defect as the only thing holding it in looks to be some type of thick two sided tape that looks like it acts as the waterproof barrier too. If they had built a locking connector into it there wouldn't be any issues. I read that this happens with the Z3 compact also.
Anyway, I sent it back to Sony and they repaired it. I'm thinking of adding some type of acrylic or superglue to it now to help secure it. I wish Sony would use one of the wireless charging standards instead.

Magnetic phone holder?

Anybody tried something like this? I have a feeling that pad that you put behind the case is going to screw up wireless charging and possibly nfc.
If the magnet was a bit bigger it would probably work with the 4 internal magnets, but this one seems kinda small.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Magneti...783596?hash=item35f4c479ac:g:pogAAOSwT5tWN1dh

haven't tried it, the ones locally are sold without the magnet pads and the pad are for iphones, some are display with the phone in a case because of it.
i opened a old hard drive to get the magnet and stuck that to my dashboard,
if the magnet is on the top the phone thinks its a case and will turn display on or off, so you would want the magnet not to interfere with the top, it didnt effect its compass
some users report that the metal pad can get hot with nfc charging and stop it.
been thinking of making one that will charge too

I think the smaller round magnet could be stuck at the bottom of the phone, the charging coil is in the middle so it might just miss it.

peachpuff said:
I think the smaller round magnet could be stuck at the bottom of the phone, the charging coil is in the middle so it might just miss it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I bought a magnetic mount a while ago and it works perfectly. It doesn't mess with NFC or anything. I actually started a thread about it a while ago too. And with our phone, it doesn't need that metal pad that comes with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/magnetic-car-mount-t3069038
EDIT: Just realized you are talking about using it with a case. I don't use a case so I wouldn't know anything about that. It works good without one though

I have four small magnets between case and phone. They align themselves to metal pads in phone and keep the phone tightly next to my magnetic holder consisting four more magnets. Wireless charging works too

Accessories Standing cover with Pen

Got my case today and it's OK, but a couple of gripes. There is zero protection for the hinge. Drop it on edge and no safety net. Given that's kind of the heaviest area when folded seems likely to be what hits the concrete on a drop.
The front cover seems to slide around a bit if you put edge pressure on it.
While wireless charging works with the stand slotted, the pen holder prevents it from getting close enough to charge.
Also a bit too bulky to feel natural in the hip pocket with the pen slotted in, though I expected that. The pen is for travel and meetings so I won't have it attached all the time.
The back of the case shows fingerprints almost as bad as the screens do.
*EDIT* And finally I just noticed - the stand is really only useful when folded and in landscape mode. Otherwise you might as well just lay the phone down it leans back so far.
The gray-green of the case is definitely the color I expected the phone to be, so it's not a match to the phone case gray color, but the phone color is only really visible around the power button.
Sorry for potato photos, the only thing I had handy to shoot with was my Surface Duo 1.0.

cybermage1 said:
Got my case today and it's OK, but a couple of gripes. There is zero protection for the hinge. Drop it on edge and no safety net. Given that's kind of the heaviest area when folded seems likely to be what hits the concrete on a drop.
The front cover seems to slide around a bit if you put edge pressure on it.
While wireless charging works with the stand slotted, the pen holder prevents it from getting close enough to charge.
Also a bit too bulky to feel natural in the hip pocket with the pen slotted in, though I expected that. The pen is for travel and meetings so I won't have it attached all the time.
The back of the case shows fingerprints almost as bad as the screens do.
*EDIT* And finally I just noticed - the stand is really only useful when folded and in landscape mode. Otherwise you might as well just lay the phone down it leans back so far.
The gray-green of the case is definitely the color I expected the phone to be, so it's not a match to the phone case gray color, but the phone color is only really visible around the power button.
Sorry for potato photos, the only thing I had handy to shoot with was my Surface Duo 1.0.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So as I understand, the colour of the case (Gray green) does not match the colour of the phone (Gray green)?

my front cover keeps flipping of, me no likey

QPR said:
my front cover keeps flipping of, me no likey
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
maybe a 2 sided tape will fix it?

eswar539 said:
maybe a 2 sided tape will fix it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that sounds like a good thing to try. cheers

QPR said:
that sounds like a good thing to try. cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Get 2mm one. Fits good

I got black in my free note pack with a grey grey phone are they supposed to give you matching?

eswar539 said:
Get 2mm one. Fits good
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I bought some for when I got a replacement fold 3. It's worth it. I could reuse the case.
mattcall said:
I got black in my free note pack with a grey grey phone are they supposed to give you matching?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was able to chose the color in the US.

One thing I do like about the pen attachment; when the pen is installed with the phone open and the power and volume buttons ot the top, I can slide the pen out a couple inches and with my left hand I can completely hold the open phone. The pen slides between my middle and pointer fingers and the phone balances while open and is weildable.
Maybe I should add a photo?