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[Q] Galaxy Nexus Screen Looks Odd?

I just bought a Galaxy Nexus from Handtec, and I notice that there are lines on the screen that resemble the texture of linen. It's not as noticeable when the brightness it set to max, but when it's darker the lines are very visible.
For other Gnex owners, is this normal? Or maybe this is the effect of the penTile?
Thanks in advance

Normal SAMOLED behavior with white backgrounds.
Get an SLCD if you are unhappy.
Just the way it is.

Thank you. No, I just wanted to know if it were normal, since I've never owned a AMOLED phone. I'm not sacrificing this baby for anything... But can anyone else with a Gnex provide more firsthand knowledge?

weskokigen said:
Thank you. No, I just wanted to know if it were normal, since I've never owned a AMOLED phone. I'm not sacrificing this baby for anything... But can anyone else with a Gnex provide more firsthand knowledge?
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I own one. More posts will get more of what I said. By all means keep reading but what I posted it universally true.
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This is because AMOLED screens use organic diodes that are more 'noisy' the less brightness there is. That does not mean it actually is more noisy, it simply means that your eyes are able to detect the noise in lower brightness while not as well when the screen is bright.
AMOLED is a funky technology, it's diodes 'age' and their colors have a short transfer period (sometimes if you have a screen turn gray, you can see the previous screens ghost for a short time in low brightness settings).
But the flaws don't outweigh the gains of AMOLED producing the most vibrant colors, contrast and saturation there are at the moment. I love it.

Even though i had an amoled phone before i got the Galaxy Nexus - my Desire was amoled - this effect wasn't very noticeable. Was having the same doubts about the Nexus, thank you for clearing it up.

Thanks for this. I posted in a thread or two about this same behavior yesterday but didn't get any concrete answers. Appreciate it. Glad my phone isn't having issues.

The ghosting is a bit annoying, but strangely I've come to like the 'linen texture'. When it's subtle.
It almost seems as if by design on the app developer's side.

weskokigen said:
I just bought a Galaxy Nexus from Handtec, and I notice that there are lines on the screen that resemble the texture of linen. It's not as noticeable when the brightness it set to max, but when it's darker the lines are very visible.
For other Gnex owners, is this normal? Or maybe this is the effect of the penTile?
Thanks in advance
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Hello, I'm total agree with you!
but my preoccupation about it dissapeared when I realized that the screen rotates extremly slowly. (galery, web browser, pdf reader...) with everything.
Sometimes even don’t rotate. I have deactivate all screen animations and the same duration. (2 seconds or more)
My nexus s was much faster with a beta rom with android 4.
Therefore I'm much more worried about this possible issue.
Do you have the same problem?
Thanks in advance!

The rotation delay is intentional. There are some ROMs (see Paul's MCR one) that speed it up a lot.

rikbrown said:
The rotation delay is intentional. There are some ROMs (see Paul's MCR one) that speed it up a lot.
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Thanks a lot for you quickly answer!
Why intentional? Makes no sense!
Greetings!

ortigosano said:
Thanks a lot for you quickly answer!
Why intentional? Makes no sense!
Greetings!
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some people (like me) like it when the slightest tilt doesnt change orientation, its better now that its a more deliberate action.

Whilst on the screen issue...
Does anyone have or have experienced a purple haze in the screen? On my device it a purple haze like colour in the bottom right corner. This changes further up the screen until it becomes (from what I can tell) a normal colour. Hardly noticeable until the screen is dimmed, then quite apparent.
I've arranged a return as I've only had it 14 days. Just wondered if this should be expected...

like that?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c385/nyyankees3511/IMG052.jpg
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Whilst on the screen issue...
Does anyone have or have experienced a purple haze in the screen? On my device it a purple haze like colour in the bottom right corner. This changes further up the screen until it becomes (from what I can tell) a normal colour. Hardly noticeable until the screen is dimmed, then quite apparent.
I've arranged a return as I've only had it 14 days. Just wondered if this should be expected...
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kristovaher said:
This is because AMOLED screens use organic diodes that are more 'noisy' the less brightness there is. That does not mean it actually is more noisy, it simply means that your eyes are able to detect the noise in lower brightness while not as well when the screen is bright.
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Thanks Kristovaher, that is a very helpful answer. I still love my gnex and it's display!
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Tap browser screen for quick(er) rotate.

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like that?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c385/nyyankees3511/IMG052.jpg
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Yes! Except on my screen its noticeable more on the left hand side of the phone. Is this sort of thing normal for this device?

****! I returned mine to Expansys cause i had the same issue and i tough my phone was damaged! Keep it mind my last device was the iPhone 4 which had a pretty good screen! I really don't know if i should keep this device now since you guys say its normal! My friend has a Razr and his whites backgrounds are amazing and on my Gnex they look like my screen is damaged unacceptable for a device i paid top dollar for!

I would advise you to keep it! At first it seemed awkward, but now i dont even notice it. And the fact that the black is actually unlit is simply amazing. I always look into my apps just to see the amazing contrast between the lit and unlit areas of the phone. And when you set the brightness up, you wont even see the textile lines. Trust me, it is worth it for an HD amoled screen, ICS, and a top of the line nexus phone that will always be up to date. BTW if you get the Razr instead of this nexus, i have no words...
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im not getting the Razr i was just using it a reference! Im new to android and i think I am going to stick with my Gnex i just have to wait till i get my replacement back! should i root my Gnex?

How do you feel about Samsungs Display?

I first found this forum when I got my SGSII and read about the yellow tint issue, bad colour banding etc. It drove me insane the first month because I couldn't get over it. I eventually got over it after some time due to it getting "old".
I hoped my Note II would have a good screen but it seems the tint can be found in all AMOLED screens. It was easy to notice the yellow tint in my SGSII but it was very weak compared to others so I were happy. On my Note II you can notice it (I think) if you concentrate really hard and it saddens me. You also have the weak lines (colour banding?).
So, how do you feel about this? Is it something you can get over and just accept that Samsung make worse screens but with awesome hardware? The reason I stick with Samsung is because I love them and I wouldn't want to choose another brand. But still, it hurts me when I realized that Note II still has these issues. I understand all manufacturers has their problems but we're in 2012, is it impossible to create a screen that is "perfect"?
Please no "I don't have this problem, my screen is perfect". We all know everyone's phone have some kind of this issue. Is it a issue or is it something you have to accept?

I don't have this problem, my screen is perfect. I'm saying this because it is. I don't see any tint or anything.

For me the screen is georgious. I like it very much, the screen doesn`t have that flickering sometimes the Note1 had. The colours are vivid, full and the screentones are custimizable.

gee2012 said:
For me the screen is georgious. I like it very much, the screen doesn`t have that flickering sometimes the Note1 had. The colours are vivid, full and the screentones are custimizable.
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It is indeed awesome, but the issue is still there. I don't like to have brightness on because of possible burn in, I keep it at 0%.

SweFox said:
I first found this forum when I got my SGSII and read about the yellow tint issue, bad colour banding etc. It drove me insane the first month because I couldn't get over it. I eventually got over it after some time due to it getting "old".
I hoped my Note II would have a good screen but it seems the tint can be found in all AMOLED screens. It was easy to notice the yellow tint in my SGSII but it was very weak compared to others so I were happy. On my Note II you can notice it (I think) if you concentrate really hard and it saddens me. You also have the weak lines (colour banding?).
So, how do you feel about this? Is it something you can get over and just accept that Samsung make worse screens but with awesome hardware? The reason I stick with Samsung is because I love them and I wouldn't want to choose another brand. But still, it hurts me when I realized that Note II still has these issues. I understand all manufacturers has their problems but we're in 2012, is it impossible to create a screen that is "perfect"?
Please no "I don't have this problem, my screen is perfect". We all know everyone's phone have some kind of this issue. Is it a issue or is it something you have to accept?
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Is it true the Note II screen is brighter than Note 1?
I didn't have a chance to compare.
On the other hand, Note 1 colours are definitely more vivid and more awesomelicious!
And mine after 6 months, have a strong yellowish tint together with a burnt screen.
I'm not impressed with AMOLED's longevity.

Livebyte said:
Is it true the Note II screen is brighter than Note 1?
I didn't have a chance to compare.
On the other hand, Note 1 colours are definitely more vivid and more awesomelicious!
And mine after 6 months, have a strong yellowish tint together with a burnt screen.
I'm not impressed with AMOLED's longevity.
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My own Note II aren't very strong in brightness but others might be. My SGSII definitely have stronger brightness! My SGSII didn't have any burn in, maybe due to the fact that I keep the brightness at 0%. To scared for anything else hah.

Livebyte said:
Liar.
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I think mod really have to see a solution of your random rant on this section all you do is saying bad things about the note, I'm really sorry that you had bad experience with your note 2 but no one is forcing you to keep using it, get over it and stop trolling for god sake...

Hell Guardian said:
I think mod really have to see a solution of your random rant on this section all you do is saying bad things about the note, I'm really sorry that you had bad experience with your note 2 but no one is forcing you to keep using it, get over it and stop trolling for god sake...
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I doubt his screen is perfect, I asked nicely for no such posts because we all know it's not true.

AMOLED is juvenile technology. It's definitely not ready for public use. Pentile displays look horrible, even at a higher resolution, burn in occurs incredibly quickly and colours are over saturated to disguise the quality. Personally haven't seen the colour banding myself but enough people report it to make it a real issue.
AMOLED is the way forward, but it is not ready for everyday use. Samsung need to put their heads together and get production rates sorted out. Only when they can start churning out RGB displays that are correctly calibrated and don't suffer from burn in or tinting after a year can they really consider AMOLED suitable for mainstream consumption.

Hell Guardian said:
I think mod really have to see a solution of your random rant on this section all you do is saying bad things about the note, I'm really sorry that you had bad experience with your note 2 but no one is forcing you to keep using it, get over it and stop trolling for god sake...
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That's the point... he doesn't even have a Note II... he's just complaining about a Note I...

Haven't noticed any problem with the screen because I am not looking for it. If you have to concentrate that hard to find it, maybe you should concentrate on something else entirely like going out and enjoying the day?

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That's the point... he doesn't even have a Note II... he's just complaining about a Note I...
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Yes. I am complaining about Note 1. I'm glad they solved the issues in Note II. I saw my friend's Note II a while ago. Indeed they solved most of the issues.
IM IMPRESSED.
But I still suspect longevity is an issue.
EDIT: BLUE TINT.
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Won't it be possible to tune the colour of the screen when roms become more developed?
My SGS used to have a yellow tint too. Increasing the blue in the built in colour tuning app changed it to pure white.
I think a while ago I remember reading someone using an app from the play store to tweak the colour of their SGS 2 screen too. I'll try & find it.
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Here it is. It's called screen adjuster.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmanslab.sa
Try increasing the blue or lower the red & green and see if that gets rid of your yellow tint. You have to be rooted.

Well, I have to agree that Note has "burned mark" stain like on the screen. Mine was the first batch for Malaysia. I also noticed the same stain like effect on the Samsung's Technician's Note. But I have no problem asking Samsung to change the display for me. After replaced, there is no problem with it for about a year now. Could it be that the first batch of display have such problem?
For Note II, it's crystal clear. No stain mark. I suggest that anyone who is not satisfied with the screen should either exchange the phone or have the display replaced.

Guess some had unlucky screens, but i really like the Note2 screen. And I got one white and one grey, both have np with tints, flicker or bad colors.
But i am not the one to speak after years off use tho, as I change mobile quite often. But Note i use longer then I usually use any mobile as the functions and Spen on note is hard to find on other devices.
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After using the original Note for over 8 months I had no issues with its screen at all except for the very light black clipping under very specifc conditions,.And now almost after one month with my Note II, I can confidently say that this is the best screen I have ever had,no yellow or black issues,so the OP either has a faulty unit or he is a troll.
Sent from my Note II using the Spen.

There is not a single AMOLED screen which is problem free. Be it tint or any other thing. It's quite true that people who are saying my screen is 'perfect' either don't know what a perfect screen is or simply lying.
And yes, my Note 2 screen has Yellowish tint, but it's on a much lower level than my S2 and spreaded all over the display unlike S2's only left side area. So I'm more or less happy with it. This is my 5th OLED displayed phone and NONE was perfect, NONE. Only which was my favorite and near perfect was Wave S8500 screen.
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Livebyte said:
Liar.
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Trolling again? For someone without the note 2, you sure spend a lot of time whining about it.
If people arent happy with it, they should get it replaced or sell and move on.
We have two n7100's in the house. Both are fine.
Note I didnt say perfect because its very rare that something is perfect. But we arent going to stare at the screen from 2mm away checking every pixel.
And everything will have a flaw in someone elses eyes.
So going by the op's logic, anyone that says otherwise is a liar?
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jujuburi said:
There is not a single AMOLED screen which is problem free. Be it tint or any other thing. It's quite true that people who are saying my screen is 'perfect' either don't know what a perfect screen is or simply lying.
And yes, my Note 2 screen has Yellowish tint, but it's on a much lower level than my S2 and spreaded all over the display unlike S2's only left side area. So I'm more or less happy with it. This is my 5th OLED displayed phone and NONE was perfect, NONE. Only which was my favorite and near perfect was Wave S8500 screen.
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Furthermore Im mot really happy if someone has to tell me to lower down my brightness. Its unacceptable. AMOLED's are what I call still in the beta stage. Its not ready for primetime.
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To be honest my screen has no tinting like what the op said.
Also, I don't get why people don't use it at a normal brightness level. If it burns in then have it replaced while it's under warranty. That's what I did with the s2.
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Brightness Uniformity of Note 2 Display.

When you go into LCD Test (*#0*#), I notice that the brightness is not really all that uniform on the display. If I bring the device close to my face I see the brightness as same and when I extend the phone further away from I can see a little difference of brightness (very minute difference; extremely hard to tell unless you play with the different brightness modes). To appreciate the difference you need to squint your eyes. Am I trying to be too nit-picky?

Okay, my eyes are playing with me; just washed my eyes and everything looks normal, what AMOLED should look like, early mornings, lol :silly:

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When you go into LCD Test (*#0*#), I notice that the brightness is not really all that uniform on the display. If I bring the device close to my face I see the brightness as same and when I extend the phone further away from I can see a little difference of brightness (very minute difference; extremely hard to tell unless you play with the different brightness modes). To appreciate the difference you need to squint your eyes. Am I trying to be too nit-picky?
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yeah seems you're trying really hard to find any imperfections. "extremely hard to tell, play with brightness modes, squint eyes etc"
should i do this under a full moon or candle light?
i usually stay away from these threads but just found all the conditions you mentioned funny. just use your phone under normal conditions. i havent noticed a single flaw... cause im not looking & digging for them.
you have three threds open discussing screens, mura & audio problems... seems like maybe you're trying to convince yourself or others about something?
EDIT: Four threads.... Refurbished phone

Perhaps, I know I paid too much, and finding flaw's like these shouldn't be so easy. I mean, I've been through '3' Note 2 already, currently on my 3rd Note 2, and am I trying to mend my relationship with the Samsung Company, especially after facing more or less similar experiences on the S2 and Note 1. I know my AMOLED display is fine, but physical things like chrome-paint finish, and elevated home button are things I really hoped Samsung would improve their quality-control on; pretty soon, they will loose business as a result of this. I made threads not only to share my insight, but to also have an open discussion about everything I have come across with the Note 2. Not surprising, many have seemed to confirm the same things that I see. So, I'm just joining the bandwagon and moving along. :good:

I think I'm going blind because im very satisfied with screen on my note or maybe I'm not that picky. I be happy if it last next 2-3 years or until my next impuls buy.
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ithmjo creation
I put the brigher note app on mine and I love it .Seemed to help the whites look better also.

I don't think I can do that.
SlsAustin said:
I put the brigher note app on mine and I love it .Seemed to help the whites look better also.
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[Q] Considering buying this in the UK - Octacore version. Opinions?

Hello everyone,
after 4 returns of LG G Pads, all of which had screen issues (adhesive yellow lines, light bleeding, 7 light spots of doom at the bottom) I've decided to up my game and move to 10.1 as something futureproof and fun to own...
However most issues pop AFTER we get our hands on the tablet. As such, I would like to ask the owners. Hand over heart - what are the + and - and what are the most common issues (if any) reported with this tablet?
Thinking of buying it from Pcworld today.
Thank you

evak2979 said:
Hello everyone,
after 4 returns of LG G Pads, all of which had screen issues (adhesive yellow lines, light bleeding, 7 light spots of doom at the bottom) I've decided to up my game and move to 10.1 as something futureproof and fun to own...
However most issues pop AFTER we get our hands on the tablet. As such, I would like to ask the owners. Hand over heart - what are the + and - and what are the most common issues (if any) reported with this tablet?
Thinking of buying it from Pcworld today.
Thank you
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There were some early assembly issues (S Pen loose in silo, speaker grills uneven or loose, BT connectivity issues) that seem to have abated because after the wave of early builds they haven't been mentioned lately. If you're a lag-freak the N10.1-14 does suffer from the occasional transition stutter or milliseconds of lag opening and closing apps. I'd peg it as lag free 95% of the time. We're getting Magazine UX/4.4 soon and the Tab/Pro's shown on video from their CES launch looked much smoother than the N10.1-14. Do you have better than 20/20 vision? A couple of people who do (or apparently do) have noticed some display anomalies when looking at certain content; most likely because of the N10.1-14's RGBW PenTile display. I can't replicate it but have only mere mortal vision.
The top reasons to get the N10.1-14 are:
Display. I think it's gorgeous no matter what anyone else says and I compare it against my N3 everyday.
Form factor. Amazingly light, slim, and small for a 10" tablet.
Doing stuff. S Pen, S Note, Multi View, Action Memo, Scrap Book and the like are huge productivity benefits and once you start using them they are hard to live without. I'm on my second round of "Notes" with the N3 and N10.1-14 replacing my N2 and N10.1-12.
The top reasons not to buy it:
You're a pure consumption user. All of the extra features of the N10.1-14 use a lot of resources and if you're not going to use them will just be annoying. You pay a lot of money for the N10.1-14 because of those features (and premium h/w that's needed to power them) and to not use them will leave you frustrated.
You're a lag-freak. As it stands there's some stuttering, hesitation, and lag about 5% of the time. It's most prominent when there's a bunch of background processing going on. Some of the proprietary apps can throw up a spinning wheel while they're processing. For example you can move content between two apps open in Multi View. It's not always instant. You can also use Air Command to copy full screens of content from various sources to be saved in your Scrap Book. It too isn't instant.
You have super human vision or live-and-die by a "perfect" display. Some people here (a half dozen?) are really freaking out about some anomalies they've detected in the display. Interestingly, other than a single reviewer who actually has 20/15 vision mentioning he noticed "something different" about the display no one outside XDA has mentioned what some folks here have found/described. The difference between a RGB display and the N10.1-14's PenTile display is that because of an indirect sub-pixel arrangement, in certain situations like specific saturated colors on specific backgrounds, there can be detectable imperfections on certain content. You can read more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2615750. Since you're leaving the G Pad over its display do yourself (and the forum ) a favor and make sure your display expectations are met before you buy a N10.1-14.
Assuming you're not buying an LTE version, the Wi-Fi and 3G versions take a looong time to charge; as long as seven hours to get to 100%.
Happy shopping.

BarryH_GEG said:
There were some early assembly issues (S Pen loose in silo, speaker grills uneven or loose, BT connectivity issues) that seem to have abated because after the wave of early builds they haven't been mentioned lately. If you're a lag-freak the N10.1-14 does suffer from the occasional transition stutter or milliseconds of lag opening and closing apps. I'd peg it as lag free 95% of the time. We're getting Magazine UX/4.4 soon and the Tab/Pro's shown on video from their CES launch looked much smoother than the N10.1-14. Do you have better than 20/20 vision? A couple of people who do (or apparently do) have noticed some display anomalies when looking at certain content; most likely because of the N10.1-14's RGBW PenTile display. I can't replicate it but have only mere mortal vision.
The top reasons to get the N10.1-14 are:
Display. I think it's gorgeous no matter what anyone else says and I compare it against my N3 everyday.
Form factor. Amazingly light, slim, and small for a 10" tablet.
Doing stuff. S Pen, S Note, Multi View, Action Memo, Scrap Book and the like are huge productivity benefits and once you start using them they are hard to live without. I'm on my second round of "Notes" with the N3 and N10.1-14 replacing my N2 and N10.1-12.
The top reasons not to buy it:
You're a pure consumption user. All of the extra features of the N10.1-14 use a lot of resources and if you're not going to use them will just be annoying. You pay a lot of money for the N10.1-14 because of those features (and premium h/w that's needed to power them) and to not use them will leave you frustrated.
You're a lag-freak. As it stands there's some stuttering, hesitation, and lag about 5% of the time. It's most prominent when there's a bunch of background processing going on. Some of the proprietary apps can throw up a spinning wheel while they're processing. For example you can move content between two apps open in Multi View. It's not always instant. You can also use Air Command to copy full screens of content from various sources to be saved in your Scrap Book. It too isn't instant.
You have super human vision or live-and-die by a "perfect" display. Some people here (a half dozen?) are really freaking out about some anomalies they've detected in the display. Interestingly, other than a single reviewer who actually has 20/15 vision mentioning he noticed "something different" about the display no one outside XDA has mentioned what some folks here have found/described. The difference between a RGB display and the N10.1-14's PenTile display is that because of an indirect sub-pixel arrangement, in certain situations like specific saturated colors on specific backgrounds, there can be detectable imperfections on certain content. You can read more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2615750. Since you're leaving the G Pad over its display do yourself (and the forum ) a favor and make sure your display expectations are met before you buy a N10.1-14.
Assuming you're not buying an LTE version, the Wi-Fi and 3G versions take a looong time to charge; as long as seven hours to get to 100%.
Happy shopping.
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I have owned (and loved) an S4 before it got stolen and I moved to my Z1.
I never had an issue with Samsung, but I do remember the occasional lag/stutter. I think it's to be used to.
The main reasons why I opted for the 10.1 are:
- The stylus + multi window. I do a lot of reading/writing and I often carry a paperbook around when I read a book to keep notes. But I am not the most tidy of persons, and I thought that operating a 10.1 in multiwindow instead would allow me to keep notes as I kindled through content.
- The specs appear future proof and XDA appears to have a good community for customing Samsungs. With cleanroms and what not, I am hoping to be able to keep the functionality of the Stylus along with a more lag free experience.
- Yes, I enjoy my movies and online magazine content, so the screen is important to me.
I will order one and hope to see it arrive by tomorrow. I can always return it within 7 days, but I doubt I will (Light bleed or faulty screens however are an immediate no go for me ! )
AS a 10.1 owner, do you think my reasons are valid? Thanks for your feedback

evak2979 said:
I have owned (and loved) an S4 before it got stolen and I moved to my Z1.
I never had an issue with Samsung, but I do remember the occasional lag/stutter. I think it's to be used to.
The main reasons why I opted for the 10.1 are:
- The stylus + multi window. I do a lot of reading/writing and I often carry a paperbook around when I read a book to keep notes. But I am not the most tidy of persons, and I thought that operating a 10.1 in multiwindow instead would allow me to keep notes as I kindled through content.
- The specs appear future proof and XDA appears to have a good community for customing Samsungs. With cleanroms and what not, I am hoping to be able to keep the functionality of the Stylus along with a more lag free experience.
- Yes, I enjoy my movies and online magazine content, so the screen is important to me.
I will order one and hope to see it arrive by tomorrow. I can always return it within 7 days, but I doubt I will (Light bleed or faulty screens however are an immediate no go for me ! )
AS a 10.1 owner, do you think my reasons are valid? Thanks for your feedback
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Up until a few days ago everyone here almost universally loved the display. A couple of people started ragging on it just recently. I wouldn't have even mentioned the display as anything but "outstanding" if not for those few people's recent comments. I've tried to replicate each of the scenarios they are bothered by and just can't. One of them admitted to 20/15 vision so s/he may be seeing imperfections I don't. People that have bought the N10.1-14 on my recommendation (with the display playing a large part) have been universally pleased.
As for lag and such my i7 gaming desktop with 12GB of RAM and 10K RPM drives lags occasionally. I shrug while others will blow away and rebuild Windows over it. To each their own.
Based on what you've described you'll be blown away by the N10.1-14's productivity features. But give them some time before drawing a conclusion. Being developed by Asian's for Western users the functionality isn't always intuitive or well presented. It is logical though and the more you use it the more comfortable you become with it.
I have a 3G version that I bought in the U.S. as an import and paid an un-Godly price for it. Almost twice the $389 some people that are complaining about certain aspects of the N10.1-14 paid during a recent refurb promotion that ran. I'm happy but it's hard to anticipate what makes others happy. After the past couple of days of pretty brutal discussion on lag and the display (which I don't personally agree with) I've learned not to project my expectations and what satisfies them on to others.
Based on your list I think you'll be happy though. And even happier when we get moved to 4.4/M-UX which is imminent because leaks have started to appear.

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Up until a few days ago everyone here almost universally loved the display. A couple of people started ragging on it just recently. I wouldn't have even mentioned the display as anything but "outstanding" if not for those few people's recent comments. I've tried to replicate each of the scenarios they are bothered by and just can't. One of them admitted to 20/15 vision so s/he may be seeing imperfections I don't. People that have bought the N10.1-14 on my recommendation (with the display playing a large part) have been universally pleased.
As for lag and such my i7 gaming desktop with 12GB of RAM and 10K RPM drives lags occasionally. I shrug while others will blow away and rebuild Windows over it. To each their own.
Based on what you've described you'll be blown away by the N10.1-14's productivity features. But give them some time before drawing a conclusion. Being developed by Asian's for Western users the functionality isn't always intuitive or well presented. It is logical though and the more you use it the more comfortable you become with it.
I have a 3G version that I bought in the U.S. as an import and paid an un-Godly price for it. Almost twice the $389 some people that are complaining about certain aspects of the N10.1-14 paid during a recent refurb promotion that ran. I'm happy but it's hard to anticipate what makes others happy. After the past couple of days of pretty brutal discussion on lag and the display (which I don't personally agree with) I've learned not to project my expectations and what satisfies them on to others.
Based on your list I think you'll be happy though. And even happier when we get moved to 4.4/M-UX which is imminent because leaks have started to appear.
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Just came home from pc world and saw the note...
It has yellow discoloration at the edges, and on the sides, visible on the whites..Just like the lg g pads i was forced to return...
I am terrified my unit tomorrow will suffer from the same. Can I be that unlucky?

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Or your eye's are extremely sensitive to light? My Note 10.1 2014 is my 4th tablet to own. Out of the one's I've owned, only my original Nexus 7 had a slight light bleed on one side. I've not experienced such an issue with my Note 10.1 2014.
I also do not notice the PenTile grid that some people keep pointing out on the Note 10.1 2014. I've seen the PenTile grid a couple times on my Galaxy S3 when fooling with the brightness and depending on the lighting, but I've yet to see it on my Note 10.1 2014.
As Barry has mentioned, there are a lot of different factors that could be an issue for some folks. If you have the brightness up, you're sitting under a bright light, you have better than average eye sight, there are many reasons you could see an anomaly or part of the device such as the PenTile grid.
Generally the picture is really crisp and clear unless I load a website that is using some low resolution images on the site. Those appear fuzzy and stand out compared to the crisp text.
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No,no, I had a friend with me. We were both mocking Ipads and how they had a known yellow tint issue on left hand side.
Then I walked over to the note 10.1 2014 (mine is arriving tomorrow by delivery), and against whites there was an obvious yellow discoloration on the bottom right corner, as if from leftover adhesive or what not. I've not read ANYTHING like that for the notes, but I just finished returning the 4th lg g pad over it (if you go over to the lg g pad section of xda, under general and QA/Screen quality, you will see what I speak of..)
At this point all I can do is pray haha

Good luck with your note. I have had mine for a few months now and have yet to experience any sort of issues with the screen. Demo units at stores I think are more likely to have issues because of the amount of wear and abuse they get rom random people/kids fondling them.

So far this tablet is totally forgotten by Samsung.
I'm still at mj6 for 3 months, the tablet lags , the lock screen takes 3 secs to wake up and Samsung does not even care.
My advice stay away from note 10.1 2014.
Why care for a product that's already forgotten by the manufacturer?
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So far this tablet is totally forgotten by Samsung.
I'm still at mj6 for 3 months, the tablet lags , the lock screen takes 3 secs to wake up and Samsung does not even care.
My advice stay away from note 10.1 2014.
Why care for a product that's already forgotten by the manufacturer?
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I've hard of occasional lag but I doubt a 3-4 month old tab has been forgotten

Well here is my first review.
A beautiful tablet, but a bit on the heavy side. Unfortunately I am returning this one as well - severe light bleeding on the bottom and right side in landscape mode. at least 8-9 spots illuminating the screen.
I think God's telling me to drop the tablet idea altogether..
I might try once more with the note though, it really does look beautiful

Tablets as a form factor
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Well here is my first review.
A beautiful tablet, but a bit on the heavy side. Unfortunately I am returning this one as well - severe light bleeding on the bottom and right side in landscape mode. at least 8-9 spots illuminating the screen.
I think God's telling me to drop the tablet idea altogether..
I might try once more with the note though, it really does look beautiful
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This tablet is fast and smooth. I have noticed light bleed on all tablets that I have owned (nexus 7, nexus 7 2013, Asus Tranformer Ifinity TF-701, Samsung Note 10.1 2014.
I am happy with this new tablet, since some selfish bastard broke into my house and stole my TF-701. This tablet by far has the best resolution, and the best display of all I have owned. The light bleed is minimal compared to the nexus 7s.
Maybe I got a good one, or I have just gotten used to light bleed on larger formats.
I would recommend this tablet, as long as you are comfortable with Touchwiz, and Samsung's way of doing things.

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This tablet is fast and smooth. I have noticed light bleed on all tablets that I have owned (nexus 7, nexus 7 2013, Asus Tranformer Ifinity TF-701, Samsung Note 10.1 2014.
I am happy with this new tablet, since some selfish bastard broke into my house and stole my TF-701. This tablet by far has the best resolution, and the best display of all I have owned. The light bleed is minimal compared to the nexus 7s.
Maybe I got a good one, or I have just gotten used to light bleed on larger formats.
I would recommend this tablet, as long as you are comfortable with Touchwiz, and Samsung's way of doing things.
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It looks wonderful but mine had severe light bleeding, 6 distinct spots at left side, 4 at bottom, nothing symmetrical about them. Getting one from John lewis tomorrow hoping I will be lucky ☺

evak2979 said:
It looks wonderful but mine had severe light bleeding, 6 distinct spots at left side, 4 at bottom, nothing symmetrical about them. Getting one from John lewis tomorrow hoping I will be lucky ☺
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New unit light bleed as well. 5 spots at bottom (which i didn't really mind, small ones), big one at top though...
Let's see how the next one does. I'll be getting a note, for sure. But I want to get bang for my buck Thank God for John Lewis return service, so let's see...
P.S. Whomever stated that Ipad air is superior to this device is a moron like no other...

I just picked one up about 2 hours ago from Brandsmart. With the display at 100% on a black background it has 6 at the bottom. It looks like small spot lights shinning up. It's charging now but if I notice it with normal use I will return it. I also have the tab 3 10.1 I got for Xmas. It had a few bad spots so I swapped it out. Now I'm good to go. Some are just worse then others. Kind of like women
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Peeodee said:
I just picked one up about 2 hours ago from Brandsmart. With the display at 100% on a black background it has 6 at the bottom. It looks like small spot lights shinning up. It's charging now but if I notice it with normal use I will return it. I also have the tab 3 10.1 I got for Xmas. It had a few bad spots so I swapped it out. Now I'm good to go. Some are just worse then others. Kind of like women
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Look at this :/
I am going to try a couple more times and then give up altogether.
P.S., this is the second one., compared to my new N 7 2013. First was FAR worse. Seeing this comparison I think I'll pass on the excuse that lightbleeding is part of the LCD technology

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Look at this :/
I am going to try a couple more times and then give up altogether.
P.S., this is the second one., compared to my new N 7 2013. First was FAR worse. Seeing this comparison I think I'll pass on the excuse that lightbleeding is part of the LCD technology
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Whatever note you get you will get light bleed, but don't see the problem if it isn't noticeable in normal use, I never sit in dark room with the brightness full with a black screen, do u?
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Whatever note you get you will get light bleed, but don't see the problem if it isn't noticeable in normal use, I never sit in dark room with the brightness full with a black screen, do u?
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It was visible watching a movie full brightness in a lit room, and very noticeable at 40% brightness in a dark room. For 450 pounds I definitely have a problem with it especially since my travelling budget device (199 pounds) out performs with same style of panel...

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It was visible watching a movie full brightness in a lit room, and very noticeable at 40% brightness in a dark room. For 450 pounds I definitely have a problem with it especially since my travelling budget device (199 pounds) out performs with same style of panel...
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Mine is fine. At 100% brightness on a black background it shows a little on some angles but watching movies or viewing pics it's not bleeding into the screen.
Yeah yours looked bad.
Good luck

Peeodee said:
Mine is fine. At 100% brightness on a black background it shows a little on some angles but watching movies or viewing pics it's not bleeding into the screen.
Yeah yours looked bad.
Good luck
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Thanks mate I am glad you got a good unit....3 pieces inc tomorrow. 3 pieces. One has to be good !!!

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Thanks mate I am glad you got a good unit....3 pieces inc tomorrow. 3 pieces. One has to be good !!!
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Here's mine at 100%

Is it just me?

When I use my friends iPhones or any 720p phones they look very grainy to me. Is it just me or is it because I have gotten used to the QHD display on my G3? I used to think the iPhone screen size was ok...now when I use it it's like a toy, and I have a hard time navigating the screen ?
Also whenever I use the S4 it definitely feels a little more grainy after you get used to the QHD panel. Is anyone else seeing those sideffects. I think my perception quality expectations is out of the roof now...makes me wonder how people claim that a iPhone PPI is more than enough ?

Same here, every smartphone I am looking at looks kinda grainy, it's hard to describe...
The display of my mother in laws Galaxy core something with it's 800x480 4,3" display looks like a crossword puzzle ☺

Frankly even some 720P phones make the iPhone look grainy, the iPhone is one of the lowest DPI phones you can still buy, it doesn't qualify as HD by any definition.

Yup my other phone is iphone 5 and its sh*t compered to g3 my mother huawei g300 that is just ridiculous

Agreed, even the 1080 phones look quite quite grainy. The sharpening and variable quality screens ruin the G3 display though.

helikido said:
When I use my friends iPhones or any 720p phones they look very grainy to me. Is it just me or is it because I have gotten used to the QHD display on my G3? I used to think the iPhone screen size was ok...now when I use it it's like a toy, and I have a hard time navigating the screen ?
Also whenever I use the S4 it definitely feels a little more grainy after you get used to the QHD panel. Is anyone else seeing those sideffects. I think my perception quality expectations is out of the roof now...makes me wonder how people claim that a iPhone PPI is more than enough ?
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Yes my friend is like riding mule after horse.

My MotoG display still looks great though.

ChrisM75 said:
Frankly even some 720P phones make the iPhone look grainy, the iPhone is one of the lowest DPI phones you can still buy, it doesn't qualify as HD by any definition.
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I know it makes me think what the hell are the iPhone fans thinking when they say that 300 PPI is more than enough or 1080p is unnecessary. Even the New iPhone 6 4.7 and 5.5 inch models won't have FHD. Totally will look grainy for sure.
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Same here, every smartphone I am looking at looks kinda grainy, it's hard to describe...
The display of my mother in laws Galaxy core something with it's 800x480 4,3" display looks like a crossword puzzle ☺
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Lol I could spot every pixel on my vibrant with ease. It has a 800×480 resolution too and it's super amoled to make it worse lol
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My MotoG display still looks great though.
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Well yeah, I'm just talking about graininess

Not just you, I also have a Moto X and that screen just screams of pixelation.

I'm starting to see old image assets showing their true low definition in apps, live wallpapers, games ect. Luckyily this isnt a 4k phone or it might be more noticable, as is things will only improve for 2k and 4k as time progresses. I can really tell text has lost the jagged edges it had with my old 720p phone which is nice.
Wanted to add it will be strange seeing mobile devices pushing uhd more than most, remember the image quality android and ois started with?

You sure you're not looking at the S4 with one of those plastic screen protectors on?
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jetsetwilly said:
You sure you're not looking at the S4 with one of those plastic screen protectors on?
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and by plastic are you refering to the anti-glare ones because they definately make a screen look grainy

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You sure you're not looking at the S4 with one of those plastic screen protectors on?
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I use tempered glass. So does my other friend. The pentile matrix makes it more noticible.
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I have a g2 and an S4 in my framily and they both look okay when compared to my G3

grifter9931 said:
I have a g2 and an S4 in my framily and they both look okay when compared to my G3
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Yeah they look perfectly fine bro.
Now what has me tripping is how can LG put a qhd resolution on the LG Stylus. That is such a 2010 resolution. I can't imagine what kind of PPi and grainy experience one would have.

helikido said:
Yeah they look perfectly fine bro.
Now what has me tripping is how can LG put a qhd resolution on the LG Stylus. That is such a 2010 resolution. I can't imagine what kind of PPi and grainy experience one would have.
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When I say they look okay, I mean they look okay... Not fantastic or anything. I personally like the lg g3 display. It doesn't have that saturated look that Apple pushes with almost all of their displays.
It's more like a Eizo or Ben-q monitor. I guess you just have to work on them for period of time to appreciate it..
Some folks will dislike the output and some will make the necessary color adjustments to the device. I have colleagues who have looked at footage or hi res pictures on my device and they like the output..
YMMV
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When I say they look okay, I mean they look okay... Not fantastic or anything. I personally like the lg g3 display. It doesn't have that saturated look that Apple pushes with almost all of their displays.
It's more like a Eizo or Ben-q monitor. I guess you just have to work on them for period of time to appreciate it..
Some folks will dislike the output and some will make the necessary color adjustments to the device. I have colleagues who have looked at footage or hi res pictures on my device and they like the output..
YMMV
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The S4 and G2 displays are sti some very nice displays buddy. R2member they are still 1080p display.
With the galaxy s series phones you can calibrate the screen really good. On my issue is screen burn in.

The g2 to me is an okay display. The s4,wasn't something I cared for display wise. I still have my G2. I never noticed screen burn in with my g2
I tried using my calibrator on my g2 and I failed!!
When the new devices drop, it will be the same issues. The iPhone will have glue issues like they always. People will complain about the note 4 display until a few updates come out, and people will talk about the moto's radio more than anything else. The N6 will be buttery smooth , and that will be the sticking point for most with each particular device..
Power consumption concerning the higher end displays will be interesting with these devices..
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What's also interesting will be if these displays actually change after being used for a while. My tv needed X amount of burn in time before the calibrator came out and to my place and did some adjustments to the tv.
If anyone can expound on if that is the case with these displays that would be interesting to get some source material on and read up on the subject.
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grifter9931 said:
The g2 to me is an okay display. The s4,wasn't something I cared for display wise. I still have my G2. I never noticed screen burn in with my g2
I tried using my calibrator on my g2 and I failed!!
When the new devices drop, it will be the same issues. The iPhone will have glue issues like they always. People will complain about the note 4 display until a few updates come out, and people will talk about the moto's radio more than anything else. The N6 will be buttery smooth , and that will be the sticking point for most with each particular device..
Power consumption concerning the higher end displays will be interesting with these devices..
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What's also interesting will be if these displays actually change after being used for a while. My tv needed X amount of burn in time before the calibrator came out and to my place and did some adjustments to the tv.
If anyone can expound on if that is the case with these displays that would be interesting to get some source material on and read up on the subject.
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LCD displays do in fact cure over time. They just like everything else typically take time to burn in.

helikido said:
Yeah they look perfectly fine bro.
Now what has me tripping is how can LG put a qhd resolution on the LG Stylus. That is such a 2010 resolution. I can't imagine what kind of PPi and grainy experience one would have.
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Cost, cost, cost.....