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[Q] No Signal After ND8 Rooted Upgrade

I apologize if this has been answered. If so, just point me to the right direction. I've searched and did not find my answer, I think my frustration is getting the best of me.
Anyway, I was on stock 4.3 odex root. All was well. Followed the guide in the development forum to upgrade to 4.4 odex root. Steps were simple, I flashed 4.4 tar with Odin, flashed the latest TWRP with odin, then flashed the ND8 4.4 zip through TWRP. Phone boots and works (though it wiped out everying, sucks but whatever), however I do not have mobile or wifi signal.
Can anyone hhelp fix this for me?
Edit: Disregard. Didnt see that the OP in the ND8 stock thread added right in the first post that radios dont work at the moment.

Just ODIN the tar again and root it using a custom recovery. Data works 100% with the original.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Just ODIN the tar again and root it using a custom recovery. Data works 100% with the original.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.
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How do I do that? Sorry for the silly question, I've always been used to flashing an already rooted ROM.

Syph said:
How do I do that? Sorry for the silly question, I've always been used to flashing an already rooted ROM.
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This is the Stock ND8 tar that edor's talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738533
Download that, it's about 953 MB, and Odin flash it. It does not give you root permissions so if you want root, flash CF-Auto Root or something like that through Odin also.

MrrD said:
This is the Stock ND8 tar that edor's talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738533
Download that, it's about 953 MB, and Odin flash it. It does not give you root permissions so if you want root, flash CF-Auto Root or something like that through Odin also.
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Thank you for answering him, I was busy out of town today. Might want to mention to unzip the file you download to get the 1.5GB tar inside.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.

[HOW-TO] Preparing to flash an ND8 (kitkat) rom

Given that the first ND8 rom is out there now, I'd thought it would be a good idea to write up the steps you need to take BEFORE you can proceed to flashing your first ND8 rom.
Steps to take/verify before flashing an ND8 rom
Check your bootloader version. If you are not on the ND8 bootloader, any ND8 rom you flash will brick your device.
You can check your bootloader version by running the following command in a terminal emulator app/shell on your device. Adb shell will work as well if you know how to get that going.
Code:
getprop ro.bootloader
If the version string it returns ends with "ND8" (no quotes of course), you are golden and you can skip to STEP 5. Otherwise continue to step 2.
Oh no. You ARE NOT on the ND8 firmware so you need to flash it before you can safely flash your first ND8 rom. Head over to THIS thread and flash the stock tar using ODIN (or a similar program) ON YOUR PC. Mobile ODIN will not just fail to flash it properly, but may leave you with an inoperable device aka brick. Don't try to take shortcuts. Following the instructions in the stock tar thread for how to flash the tar. NOTE: The restore tar MAY or MAY NOT wipe your internal storage so back up your information as necessary.
After flashing the stock tar, head back here and move on to step 3
Download a custom recovery tar (I highly recommend Philz touch, works for flashing kitkat roms well with the greatest consistency. Grab the latest tar HERE)
Flash the recovery tar with ODIN (or a similar computer program such as jodin, heimdall, etc) the same way you flashed the stock tar.
Now you can flash your rom. Yes, it is slightly tedious the first time, but once you are on the ND8 firmware you needn't repeat these steps the next time you want to flash an ND8 rom :good:
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Devs and others, I encourage you to refer all ND8 flashing questions here to keep things centralized and have one set of info from one person versus multiple from multiple people.
Have fun flashing!

It definitely did wipe my internal data, so be sure to backup to your SD card or off-device. I fortunately had most of it backed up, but I think I lost some pictures.

Is there any way to upgrade to rooted stock ND8 without losing data? I'm rooted stock MK3 and I don't think I've ever installed the Knox boot loader. My boot loader came back as MD4.

troyernet said:
Is there any way to upgrade to rooted stock ND8 without losing data? I'm rooted stock MK3 and I don't think I've ever installed the Knox boot loader. My boot loader came back as MD4.
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The only chance for you is if you're rooted Odexed. You'd have to unroot, flash the stock Knox MK3 bootloader, kernel and recovery, and then accept the OTA.
There is NO way to run TouchWiz 4.4.2 without the Knox ND8 bootloader.
And if you don't know one way or the other, I'd say there's more of a chance you're DeOdexed than Odexed, which won't work at all for the OTA.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.

I've been itching to move to ND8. I'm currently on MD4, with no knox. With all this talk of knox, is it really that bad to have?
I'm on Ting, so I buy my phones outright and don't have phone insurance. I have my old SGS2 as my insurance. Its my understanding that the main issue with knox is if you downgrade your bootloader, it'll hard brick your device. Otherwise, you can still flash ROMs and what not through custom recovery just like before, regardless if its MD4 based or AOSP. I don't think i'll ever need to send my phone to Sprint/Samsung for warranty/repairs/ect. or downgrade bootloaders (never felt the need to). If I sell my phone, I'll just odin the stock ND8 and be done with it. Are there any other downsides to having a bootloader with knox?

So just to be clear if I follow those 2 steps above I then can flash any ND8 ROM, I got that, but will the phone still be rooted? Why do I ask? Well if you keep reading the ND8 Full Restore thread bilgerryan posted to flash CF Auto Root, then recovery, so I am just a little confused. Here.
Unfortunately the OP in the ND8 thread never updated the initial post to include all of the requests that followed, like listing the MD5 and attaching the root instructions that were posted. I am pretty sure I got the answer to my questions by reading the thread again, but I can see how things get confusing fast. So keeping root is a 3 step flash.

s9amme said:
I've been itching to move to ND8. I'm currently on MD4, with no knox. With all this talk of knox, is it really that bad to have?
Are there any other downsides to having a bootloader with knox?
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No, and no.
Super Dave426 said:
So just to be clear if I follow those 2 steps above I then can flash any ND8 ROM, I got that, but will the phone still be rooted?
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Give me a sec and I'll post some links for you. I'll edit this post with them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743971
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2750674
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741413
Follow the instructions in ANY of those thread's first posts AFTER ODINing ND8 and you'll be rooted.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.

I may have asked this in another thread, and if so, I apologize (I've been horribly sick) but is there any way to ODIN through WIFI or something? The MicroUSB port on my phone is destroyed and I can't afford a repair. I am rooted, with a custom recovery, on the MD4 bootloader, and would like to move up to an ND8 based KitKat ROM, but obviously the broken port is causing a bit of a problem.

tpike1296 said:
I may have asked this in another thread, and if so, I apologize (I've been horribly sick) but is there any way to ODIN through WIFI or something? The MicroUSB port on my phone is destroyed and I can't afford a repair. I am rooted, with a custom recovery, on the MD4 bootloader, and would like to move up to an ND8 based KitKat ROM, but obviously the broken port is causing a bit of a problem.
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There is absolutely no other way than through hard wire USB?Micro USB. Sorry.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.

Hi CNexus. I appreciate the guide. I seem to have run into a bit of an issue though.
I was on 4.1.2 (rooted Sprint L710) and decided to flash this update. I used Odin 3.09 and flashed the stock ND8 as per step 2. Everything went fine and it booted up without any problems so I went back into download mode and flashed the custom recovery you have linked in step 3. Odin gave me the big green "PASS" and the phone rebooted. Again no problems so I transferred the rooted stock rom (this one) to my SD card, turned the phone off and went to boot into recovery mode.
Here is where the problem is. When trying to boot into recovery, I get to the screen that says something like "booting recovery..." and then the screen just goes dark. Nothing happens as long as I hold down the buttons. As soon as I let them go the phone boots up like normal. :/
I repeated all of the steps again thinking maybe something (maybe me) messed up the first time. Same issue. Recovery won't load but the system boots just fine.
If you, or anyone else, have any ideas I would greatly appreciate some help. Thanks.

SoldToBears said:
Hi CNexus. I appreciate the guide. I seem to have run into a bit of an issue though.
I was on 4.1.2 (rooted Sprint L710) and decided to flash this update. I used Odin 3.09 and flashed the stock ND8 as per step 2. Everything went fine and it booted up without any problems so I went back into download mode and flashed the custom recovery you have linked in step 3. Odin gave me the big green "PASS" and the phone rebooted. Again no problems so I transferred the rooted stock rom (this one) to my SD card, turned the phone off and went to boot into recovery mode.
Here is where the problem is. When trying to boot into recovery, I get to the screen that says something like "booting recovery..." and then the screen just goes dark. Nothing happens as long as I hold down the buttons. As soon as I let them go the phone boots up like normal. :/
I repeated all of the steps again thinking maybe something (maybe me) messed up the first time. Same issue. Recovery won't load but the system boots just fine.
If you, or anyone else, have any ideas I would greatly appreciate some help. Thanks.
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To boot into recovery u have to let go of the volume up, home button, and power key all at once when the "booting recovery" screen appears. If you're still holding them down when the "booting recovery" screen disappears, you're phone is going to start up like normal.

jwigley24 said:
To boot into recovery u have to let go of the volume up, home button, and power key all at once when the "booting recovery" screen appears. If you're still holding them down when the "booting recovery" screen disappears, you're phone is going to start up like normal.
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Ah! Thank you so much! :highfive: For some reason I thought I had to keep holding them down until recovery loaded. Thanks again. I appreciate it.

Pit for mapping
Hey guys I downloaded the ND8 tar and I am trying to flash with Odin but it just sits at Get PIT for mapping ..... what should I do here? I have looked around for a solution but am unable to find one. Thanks in advance! (using Odin 3.07 and 3.09)
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Saafir said:
Hey guys I downloaded the ND8 tar and I am trying to flash with Odin but it just sits at Get PIT for mapping ..... what should I do here? I have looked around for a solution but am unable to find one. Thanks in advance! (using Odin 3.07 and 3.09)
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Cancel the help request gang. Apparently my Micro USB cord must be faulty. Flashing now

A couple days ago i flashed Philz 6.00.8 d2spr for rooting my virgin mobile s3 4.3 version with odin. Today I upgraded with 4.4 kit Kat stock tar, then flashed philz 6.008 again through odin, rooted ,debloated ect. My question is can I upgrade/flash philz 6.00.8 d2spr to the newst philz recovery through recovery? Or do I need to odin a recovery again. Also i originally tried to odin the d2lte version but odin said it was invalid so I used the d2spr.
Sent from my SPH-L710

Can I just take the ota since it has already downloaded and then flash the rest later this evening? I now have two update notifications living comfortably on my notification bar.
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ghostyroasty said:
Can I just take the ota since it has already downloaded and then flash the rest later this evening? I now have two update notifications living comfortably on my notification bar.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
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Only if you are on 100% stock rom with stock recovery

n00b-xda-disciple said:
A couple days ago i flashed Philz 6.00.8 d2spr for rooting my virgin mobile s3 4.3 version with odin. Today I upgraded with 4.4 kit Kat stock tar, then flashed philz 6.008 again through odin, rooted ,debloated ect. My question is can I upgrade/flash philz 6.00.8 d2spr to the newst philz recovery through recovery? Or do I need to odin a recovery again. Also i originally tried to odin the d2lte version but odin said it was invalid so I used the d2spr.
Sent from my SPH-L710
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You can flash any recovery from your custom recovery. The first one is just Odined because you can't flash that from stock recovery.
Old Philz had separate SPR and LTE builds. The SPR ones aren't built anymore and you can flash the latest LTE one just fine, that's what I use.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.

n00b-xda-disciple said:
A couple days ago i flashed Philz 6.00.8 d2spr for rooting my virgin mobile s3 4.3 version with odin. Today I upgraded with 4.4 kit Kat stock tar, then flashed philz 6.008 again through odin, rooted ,debloated ect. My question is can I upgrade/flash philz 6.00.8 d2spr to the newst philz recovery through recovery? Or do I need to odin a recovery again. Also i originally tried to odin the d2lte version but odin said it was invalid so I used the d2spr.
Sent from my SPH-L710
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You may try philz touch 6.26.6 d2lte.

Nd8 sd permission fix.zip and nd8 tether mod.zip works for my virgin phone by the way.
Sent from my SPH-L710 VM ND8 (Sprint Rooted Modded Stock 4.4.2 Kit Kat Rom)

Thank you CNexus for all your genius work. Had to pop my cherry to thank you. You and other devs have help me unbricked my hard bricked phone. Now Im as good as new with KitKat running. Now to a flash this Wicked Rom. :laugh:

Help!

So I was dumb. I tried flashing a kernel (the one found on the main xda sprint galaxy s3 page) on my rooted, stock rom, kitkat s3. When it didn't seem to take, I tried flashing my nandroid recovery. When the phone booted, gapps weren't working, everything was crashing, and the phone had no service. I freaked out and (this entire time I'm trying to find helpful forums) tried flashing a stock 4.3 rom (the only one I could find). Gapps are working again and I'm still rooted with 4.3, but I still have no service. There doesn't appear to be a baseband version installed. At this point, I'd love to just get service back (I can't seem to find a relevant or helpful thread), and eventually update to 4.4 again. Help?!

gobluefanjp said:
So I was dumb. I tried flashing a kernel (the one found on the main xda sprint galaxy s3 page) on my rooted, stock rom, kitkat s3. When it didn't seem to take, I tried flashing my nandroid recovery. When the phone booted, gapps weren't working, everything was crashing, and the phone had no service. I freaked out and (this entire time I'm trying to find helpful forums) tried flashing a stock 4.3 rom (the only one I could find). Gapps are working again and I'm still rooted with 4.3, but I still have no service. There doesn't appear to be a baseband version installed. At this point, I'd love to just get service back (I can't seem to find a relevant or helpful thread), and eventually update to 4.4 again. Help?!
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Have you tried flashing the MK3 modem? You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538978
Good luck!

MrWBucket said:
Have you tried flashing the MK3 modem? You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538978
Good luck!
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Sorry, I'm pretty new at this. I forgot to mention that my usb cable for my phone to pc doesn't work well, so using the pc isn't a great option. Is the modem flashable through mobile odin? Thanks!

gobluefanjp said:
Sorry, I'm pretty new at this. I forgot to mention that my usb cable for my phone to pc doesn't work well, so using the pc isn't a great option. Is the modem flashable through mobile odin? Thanks!
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Woops, found you need to flash it in recovery. However, when I tried doing that, it said signature verification failed?

gobluefanjp said:
Woops, found you need to flash it in recovery. However, when I tried doing that, it said signature verification failed?
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Okay, I was able to flash that modem, but still no signal.

gobluefanjp said:
Okay, I was able to flash that modem, but still no signal.
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If you were ever on Stock KitKat, you need to use the ND8 Modem. The only way of getting that is by re-Odining the stock ND8 tar.
You'll need a new cable. Do NOT use Mobile Odin with the stock tar, you'll hard brick your phone.
After you do that and Odin the latest Philz Recovery, make a nandroid of your ND8 modem in case this happens again.
What recovery and version were you on? This has been known to happen on CWM. I haven't tested restoring with TWRP v2.7.0.0 yet, but Philz is known to be 100% working with KitKat.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
If you were ever on Stock KitKat, you need to use the ND8 Modem. The only way of getting that is by re-Odining the stock ND8 tar.
You'll need a new cable. Do NOT use Mobile Odin with the stock tar, you'll hard brick your phone.
After you do that and Odin the latest Philz Recovery, make a nandroid of your ND8 modem in case this happens again.
What recovery and version were you on? This has been known to happen on CWM. I haven't tested restoring with TWRP v2.7.0.0 yet, but Philz is known to be 100% working with KitKat.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.
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Awesome, thanks for the help! I have a new cable on the way, so I can use that instead of mobile odin. The ND8 tar file is this one, right?
Once I odin the ND8 tar, that will break root, correct?
I'm pretty new at this, but I think I was using Clockworkmod recovery? I originally followed the instructions in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_afP4BI1RFY.
I suppose after that I will be on unrooted stock kitkat?
Thanks for all your help and patience with what are probably silly questions!

gobluefanjp said:
Awesome, thanks for the help! I have a new cable on the way, so I can use that instead of mobile odin. The ND8 tar file is this one, right?
Once I odin the ND8 tar, that will break root, correct?
I'm pretty new at this, but I think I was using Clockworkmod recovery? I originally followed the instructions in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_afP4BI1RFY.
I suppose after that I will be on unrooted stock kitkat?
Thanks for all your help and patience with what are probably silly questions!
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You're welcome!
No, this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738533.
Just after ODINing that, ODIN the tar of the latest version of Philz Recovery, put the latest version of SuperSU.zip on your SD card, flash that in recovery and you'll be good.
The Nandroids from regular CWM don't seem to restore right and they do in Philz. I haven't tested restores in TWRP v2.7.0.0 yet.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You're welcome!
No, this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738533.
Just after ODINing that, ODIN the tar of the latest version of Philz Recovery, put the latest version of SuperSU.zip on your SD card, flash that in recovery and you'll be good.
The Nandroids from regular CWM don't seem to restore right and they do in Philz. I haven't tested restores in TWRP v2.7.0.0 yet.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.
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Okay, so when I go to flash that, this keeps happening in Odin:
<ID:0/004> SetupConnection..
<ID:0/004> Can't open the serial(COM) port.
<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)
I've tried researching this in other threads, but nothing has worked. I just used odin successfully a couple weeks ago, so I'm not sure what's different now. Any ideas?
Also, I can't figure out what the latest version of PhilZ is for the sprint s3, which one would that be?
Again, thank you for all your help.

gobluefanjp said:
Okay, so when I go to flash that, this keeps happening in Odin:
<ID:0/004> SetupConnection..
<ID:0/004> Can't open the serial(COM) port.
<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)
I've tried researching this in other threads, but nothing has worked. I just used odin successfully a couple weeks ago, so I'm not sure what's different now. Any ideas?
Also, I can't figure out what the latest version of PhilZ is for the sprint s3, which one would that be?
Again, thank you for all your help.
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Try a different USB port. Try rebooting Windows. Try a different cable if you have one.
Have you already been to the Philz Recovery thread in the Development section? Once you follow the link in it's OP to the downloads, and select Spr or LTE, I forget which they're using now for our builds, then the latest is at the bottom of the list. They have the file dates beside them. You want the one that ends in .tar.md5.
Not the .zip, and not the plain .md5 file listed after the zip, although it doesn't hurt to have those too, but for beginning purposes you want the .tar.md5.
You're welcome!
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So I realized that even with a new catble, I wasn't going to get anywhere with odin because the microUSB port on my phone was shot. So I took it to the Sprint store and told them about the port and that I had lost service when trying to upgrade to KitKat. So, not only did they just completely re-flash the phone restoring service, they also just replaced the port. All for free and not with Sprint warranty. So, obviously, I'm now unrooted, but the phone is back to stock with service!
Anyway, thanks for all of your help! I think I'll root it after upgrading to KitKat from 4.3 again, and then use the PhilZ recovery you suggested. From now on, I'll just be doing things I know exactly how to do. Again, thanks for all the help!

gobluefanjp said:
Anyway, thanks for all of your help! I think I'll root it after upgrading to KitKat from 4.3 again, and then use the PhilZ recovery you suggested. From now on, I'll just be doing things I know exactly how to do. Again, thanks for all the help!
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You're welcome! That's awesome. I'm glad you had such great luck at the Sprint store.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.

[Q] Unroot and Return to Stock Procedure? MD4

Tomorrow I am upgrading and I am still rooted with custom rom and recovery. I am giving the phone to my brother who will activate it immediately.
Baseband MD4, currently running miui 4.2.2 after previously being on Carbon 4.4 Kitkat.
I hear Sprint isn't too concerned with the flash counts so I think I won't bother with those. What do I need to do to begin this process of returning back to stock?
Any help would be appreciated, I am eager to upgrade :victory:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...-30-2012-sprint-only-unroot-return-stock.html
I found this, but it looks like it might be a little outdated?
I also see here that Casper used Samsung GS3 Toolkit 7.0, but that seems extremely complicated and intimidating.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help/easiest-to-unroot-return-to-stock-1-t2130389
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746680

I'm pretty sure CNexus has an unrooted stock MK3 ROM in development (non-original) which would give him 4.3 without Knox. Without root he won't be able to keep from getting OTA notices or even automatic upgrade to 4.4, so maybe you should just Odin the stock ND8 (4.4.2) tar, but while some people have better signal on ND8, others had much better on MK3 (4.3).
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.

Thank you! I don't even know what Know is unfortunately.
I ended up using an old 4.1.1 tar from the androidcentral thread and it worked fine. I tried it anyway even though I wasn't sure it would work.
I'll let my brother update it and do what he wants from there lol.

[Q] Questions About Rooting/Flashing On Build L710VPUDND8, Please Help.

I want to start off by saying that, over the past week, I have looked all over XDA forums for the following information but to no avail. I apologize if this is in the wrong thread or if I am breaking any forum rules.
I recently updated my Sprint version Galaxy S3 to Android 4.4.2 just as many people have. I actually skipped the 4.3 update and went straight to 4.4.2 from 4.1.2 due to all the bugs I heard about. My root access was broken while updating through Samsung Kies, naturally, and I want to get re-rooted. My questions are as follows:
1. Is the CF-auto-root method safe with this new bootloader that came with the 4.4.2 and(or) 4.3 updates?
2. After rooting, will flashing a custom recovery like clockworkmod brick my device due to the Knox software and bootloader?
3. Will Triangle Away work with resetting any tripped counters due to rooting on 4.4.2?
4. And, if Triangle Away doesn't work, will flashing the original stock 4.4.2 firmware via Odin reset Knox's bootloader counter just as doing so has in the past? (versions 4.1.2 and lower)
5. Will flashing an older build firmware like 4.1.2 or any roms based on an older build brick my device?
I apologize if I am asking questions already asked in these forums, as you can see they mostly center around my lack of knowledge in flashing/rooting with the Knox technology. I couldn't for the life of me find the answers to the specific questions I have to alleviate my paranoia in bricking my device. Thanks in advance for the assist.

MooreAJr said:
1. Is the CF-auto-root method safe with this new bootloader that came with the 4.4.2 and(or) 4.3 updates?
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Safe but won't necessarily work. Works for some, for others it doesn't. IMHO the most reliable and easy way of getting root on ND8 is to Odin the latest Philz Recovery, and when you tell recovery to reboot it'll offer to re-root your phone.
2. After rooting, will flashing a custom recovery like clockworkmod brick my device due to the Knox software and bootloader?
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No. AFAIK, the only things that will brick you that's Knox related are trying to downgrade either your bootloader or modem.
3. Will Triangle Away work with resetting any tripped counters due to rooting on 4.4.2?
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The flash counter, yes, the warranty (Knox) counter, no. It's an e-fuse, nothing can reverse it.
4. And, if Triangle Away doesn't work, will flashing the original stock 4.4.2 firmware via Odin reset Knox's bootloader counter just as doing so has in the past? (versions 4.1.2 and lower)
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I don't think anything has ever reset the Knox counter; only the flash counter.
5. Will flashing an older build firmware like 4.1.2 or any roms based on an older build brick my device?
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Firmware, yes absolutely. ROM, no it won't. Firmware being bootloader and modem. Once you Odin ND8, never ever Odin anything other than ND8 or a custom recovery. ODINing an older ROM will permanently brick your phone.
You can nandroid backup and restore, and flash custom old and new ROMs using your custom recovery as always, though.
This thread answers some of your questions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743554
Also, please post threads with questions in the Q&A section.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Safe but won't necessarily work. Works for some, for others it doesn't. IMHO the most reliable and easy way if getting root on ND8 is to Odin the latest Philz Recovery, and when you tell recovery to reboot it'll offer to re-root your phone.
No. AFAIK, the only things that will brick you that's Knox related are trying to downgrade either your bootloader or modem.
The flash counter, yes, the warranty (Knox) counter, no. It's an e-fuse, nothing can reverse it.
I don't think anything has ever reset the Knox counter; only the flash counter.
Firmware, yes absolutely. ROM, no it won't. Firmware being bootloader and modem. Once you Odin ND8, never ever Odin anything other than ND8 or a custom recovery. ODINing an older ROM will permanently brick your phone.
You can nandroid backup and restore, and flash custom old and new ROMs using your custom recovery as always, though.
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Thanks a lot for the information. I need to get better at navigating and finding the answers to my questions on the forums. Im going to do a search on the latest Philz Recovery and see if I can my device rooted again.

MooreAJr said:
Thanks a lot for the information. I need to get better at navigating and finding the answers to my questions on the forums. Im going to do a search on the latest Philz Recovery and see if I can my device rooted again.
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One suggestion for searching. I find it simpler to Google search XDA than to use XDA's own search. Just put xda (space) then whatever you're searching for.
For example, Google:
xda SPH-L710 philz
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
One suggestion for searching. I find it simpler to Google search XDA than to use XDA's own search. Just put xda (space) then whatever you're searching for.
For example, Google:
xda SPH-L710 philz
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.
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I did just that and found the appropriate zip & .md5 files for SPHL710 and im going to give it a try later today when I get a chance. Thanks again for the assistance with this

MooreAJr said:
I did just that and found the appropriate zip & .md5 files for SPHL710 and im going to give it a try later today when I get a chance. Thanks again for the assistance with this
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You're welcome. Just to be clear, you'll need the tar version of Philz to Odin it after the ND8 tar. The whole file extension is .tar.md5.
The .zip and the .md5 for the zip will only be of use once you're already in a custom recovery.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with Wicked X v6.5, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You're welcome. Just to be clear, you'll need the tar version of Philz to Odin it after the ND8 tar. The whole file extension is .tar.md5.
The .zip and the .md5 for the zip will only be of use once you're already in a custom recovery.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with Wicked X v6.5, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.
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Hmm, I see. In the past I've only had to use two file types: tar.md5 for the recovery & .zip to root from recovery.
Guess I wasn't paying attention while downloading files, I just noticed there are 3 files types per version release.

After I updated to 4.4, I used this method to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596697
It worked like a charm!

Philz recovery will offer to root your phone for you automatically if you go to reboot from it and it detects you're not rooted.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with Wicked X v6.5, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Philz recovery will offer to root your phone for you automatically if you go to reboot from it and it detects you're not rooted.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with Wicked X v6.5, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.
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I used the Philz recovery method to root. I did notice a weird lag and stutter after booting up. Tempted to do a factory reset but everything looks good so far. I do like the Philz Recovery interface as well

It takes any new ROM time to settle in. Hours or days depending on how you use it.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with Wicked X v6.5, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.

I'm trying to help a freind root his L710, and I'm confused, at least on my S2 (D710) Philz is only for AOSP/Some AOKP roms but doesn't work for TW, Is it different here? Can someone give me the link to the exact recovery? I think I got it but I want to be extra careful because it's not my device.
Thanks!

Yes it'll work on any ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45632230 provides the download link.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII on TouchWiz 4.4.2 with Wicked X v6.5, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
It takes any new ROM time to settle in. Hours or days depending on how you use it.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with Wicked X v6.5, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.
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Its really not that bad I guess. I'm thinking because its been a while since I have been able to move apps to the sd natively. Last device I had that was able to do so was the Evo 4G(wimax)... takes a few for them to load from the card I suppose