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Help for a somewhat new person.

I am new with rooting my phone. I have used Rooted phones before, I followed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258633 Motochopper how to. I ran into a problem. I click the superuser app that was installed onto my phone, and it tells me that "The Superuser binary (su) must be updated. Please choose an installation method. Recovery mode installation is recommended for HTC devices." I click install and it tells me there was an error. I would like to root my phone along with potentially installing CWM so that I can easily install Cyanogenmod when they release a stable verison for the S4. Also would love to install titanium backup along with some Adfree apps.
Any help would be very much appreciated.

OK, so it looks like you already have it rooted.
When super SU asks that question, dont install via CWM, tell it to just install normally.
Once you have SuperSU working, Download Rom Manager from the play store and install CWM Recovery right from within the ROM Manager app.
It will give you the option to pick between two types of CWM(ClockWorkMod). The Touch version, like its name gives you the ability to use the touch screen and not only the volume up/down + Power button.

Telling it to install normally causes it to just tell me there was an error, it also tells me it is out of date as well. Titanium Backup tells me that it cant get root access and I was never asked about it.

OK, so your phone is not rooted then.
Your going to have to try rooting it again or flashing an already rooted rom with Odin.

I just tried it again, this time it said failure after the install of the superuser.apk. I just read that one of the later updates by samsung can make it harder to root. I just got my phone and i was fully updated. What Roms, are already rooted for the S4. I am actually enjoying some of the default apps that came with the phone.

Wicked (and most ROMs that don't include the [STOCK] tag) are pre-rooted...but you'll need to ODIN a custom recovery first then flash the ROM.
If you want to stay on rooted stock, follow the steps in the "root May 7 MDL" thread to ODIN a rooted kernel, and you'll be good to go.
(You don't need root access to get a custom recovery flashed)
Basically, any of your options are pretty straightforward, but they're going to involve Odin-ing stuff.

So there isn't really a way to just root my phone without installing a custom rom?

There was before the second update, with the second update rooting got just a little bit more steps
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movieaddict said:
There was before the second update, with the second update rooting got just a little bit more steps
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So is there a way to keep it stock but root it? What are the other steps I would have to take. Why does Samsung not like people rooting their phones, I thought carriers were the ones that hated people rooting their phones

Spud37 said:
So is there a way to keep it stock but root it? What are the other steps I would have to take. Why does Samsung not like people rooting their phones, I thought carriers were the ones that hated people rooting their phones
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Are you still on the MDB firmware or have you done any over the air updates? Specifically the May 7 update which is MDL. Motochopper is specifically for then older firmware (MDB) and it won't work if you are already on the updated. MDL firmware. In which case you would have to follow these instructions to acquire root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41162041
I usually use a market app called root checker to quickly check if I do have root.
And yes you can be rooted on stock.
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Are you still on the MDB firmware or have you done any over the air updates? Specifically the May 7 update which is MDL. Motochopper is specifically for then older firmware (MDB) and it won't work if you are already on the updated. MDL firmware. In which case you would have to follow these instructions to acquire root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41162041
I usually use a market app called root checker to quickly check if I do have root.
And yes you can be rooted on stock.
Sent from my SGH-M919
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Root checker says no root. I believe it does have that over the air update installed. T Mobile updated it when they gave me the phone, because they thought I didn't really know anything about phones. I assume this means I have to follow another method to root my phone?

If you have the MDL update you have to root using the steps listed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268880
Easily done, just a few more steps.

ronin4740 said:
If you have the MDL update you have to root using the steps listed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268880
Easily done, just a few more steps.
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This is going to sound like a dumb question but from reading all of that I need to use ODIN to install the ROOT_M919?UVUAMDL onto the phone? that should root the phone and allow me to install ROM Manager and install CWM from there right?
Also would doing this delete everything I have on my phone right now?

Spud37 said:
This is going to sound like a dumb question but from reading all of that I need to use ODIN to install the ROOT_M919?UVUAMDL onto the phone? that should root the phone and allow me to install ROM Manager and install CWM from there right?
Also would doing this delete everything I have on my phone right now?
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No, you use Odin to install one of the recoveries. You use the recovery to install the zip ROOT_M919?UVUAMD. Personally I didn't use that file. I installed the kernel in recovery and SuperSU in recovery. And no, it won't delete things on your phone.

Atmazzz said:
No, you use Odin to install one of the recoveries. You use the recovery to install the zip ROOT_M919?UVUAMD. Personally I didn't use that file. I installed the kernel in recovery and SuperSU in recovery. And no, it won't delete things on your phone.
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Thank you so much, I am about to go and do this. I will use the kernel you suggested since that looks like a better option, after flashing the kernal should i reboot and just use it normally for a bit and then go to recovery and flash SuperSU?
EDIT: The steps on the thread for ODIN are for installing a rooted ROM, I am assuming its still the same steps for installing a recovery instead of a rooted ROM

Spud37 said:
after flashing the kernal should i reboot and just use it normally for a bit and then go to recovery and flash SuperSU?
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If I remember right I just flashed them both at the same time. Just make sure you do the kernel first.
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Spud37 said:
EDIT: The steps on the thread for ODIN are for installing a rooted ROM, I am assuming its still the same steps for installing a recovery instead of a rooted ROM
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The steps for Odin are for the stock rom, but yes, you use it the same way for a recovery.

Atmazzz said:
If I remember right I just flashed them both at the same time. Just make sure you do the kernel first.
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The steps for Odin are for the stock rom, but yes, you use it the same way for a recovery.
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Okay I didn't get any error using ODIN, however when I try and boot into CWM using Volume Up + Power it just goes to android recovery. Which doesn't have any of the options I need. Am I just booting up the wrong way, or did I do something wrong. I tried both the touch version and the non-touch version

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Okay I didn't get any error using ODIN, however when I try and boot into CWM using Volume Up + Power it just goes to android recovery. Which doesn't have any of the options I need. Am I just booting up the wrong way, or did I do something wrong. I tried both the touch version and the non-touch version
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2 options. uncheck auto reboot in Odin. When Odin is done, unplug your phone, pull your battery, then boot into recovery. Or .. when Odin is done and it reboots your phone, keep holding volume up to get to recovery.

Atmazzz said:
2 options. uncheck auto reboot in Odin. When Odin is done, unplug your phone, pull your battery, then boot into recovery. Or .. when Odin is done and it reboots your phone, keep holding volume up to get to recovery.
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Thank You so much. However it now seems like I have both Super User and SuperSU installed.

How did you root? Did you install the ROOT_M919?UVUAMDL zip and install SuperSU?

MK1 and root

Hey guys,
I was wondering if someone could help me a little. I just bought this tablet (2014 version) and it has MK1.
I am trying to read information on how to root it but can't figure it out. I tried to flash autoroot with odin but it errored. I didn't find mk1 autoroot anywhere so i used autorootp600.mj4.tar.md5. Is there autoroot for MK1 and i can use? Also i guess i will need to have custom recovery file for my stock OS, where do i get that?
Thank you in advance for all the help.
Edit: I finally located autoroot for mk1 and it worked. But i do have a question: why do we need to flash it with Stock Recovery after? btw i am using this tutorial : http://theunlockr.com/2013/12/17/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition/

What version do you have?
P600 (wifi only)
P601 (3g)
P605 (lte)
?
They have different chipsets and different root methods.
[e] I see you have found the correct version if you want to get OTA updates you need to flash stock recovery so your device status is not custom. But it basically doesn't matter since you can always flash updates through odin. You may choose a custom recovery that offers you a lot of cool features instead.

stamina11 said:
Hey guys,
I was wondering if someone could help me a little. I just bought this tablet (2014 version) and it has MK1.
I am trying to read information on how to root it but can't figure it out. I tried to flash autoroot with odin but it errored. I didn't find mk1 autoroot anywhere so i used autorootp600.mj4.tar.md5. Is there autoroot for MK1 and i can use? Also i guess i will need to have custom recovery file for my stock OS, where do i get that?
Thank you in advance for all the help.
Edit: I finally located autoroot for mk1 and it worked. But i do have a question: why do we need to flash it with Stock Recovery after? btw i am using this tutorial : http://theunlockr.com/2013/12/17/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition/
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I believe...... so you can still get OTA updates and some functions like All Share Cast may not work if you don't.

The thing is, even if you have stock recovery but modify your system in other ways like uninstall alot of bloatware or use busybox your status will be custom anyway so I recommend a custom recovery for the safety of using backups etc.

Thank you guys for responding so quickly.
It's starting to make sense.
My device is Wifi only so SM-P600 (mk1). I rooted it but haven't flashed with stock recovery. Would you guys recommend i do a custom recovery or keep it stock? Where do i get stock recovery from? i can't seem to find it.

clouds5 said:
The thing is, even if you have stock recovery but modify your system in other ways like uninstall alot of bloatware or use busybox your status will be custom anyway so I recommend a custom recovery for the safety of using backups etc.
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Yea i definitely plan on de-bloating it. So where do you get custom recovery?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515656
Check this thread

clouds5 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515656
Check this thread
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Ok, that makes sense i went though it. So i see that there is ClockMod and TWRP and GooManager, do they do pretty much the same thing?

So as far as Roms go, i see that in Development section there are few ROMs available but some say they are for MJ9 or ML1, i cannot use those on my MK1 right? Do ROMs from note 10.1 (2013) work on this device? Is there a list of ROMs that would work on my device.
Sorry, guys i know these are newb questions but i just could never figure out some of this stuff.

stamina11 said:
Ok, that makes sense i went though it. So i see that there is ClockMod and TWRP and GooManager, do they do pretty much the same thing?
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I got the same question here. Any help?

legender said:
I got the same question here. Any help?
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Goomanager is an app use it to flash twrp recovery.
TWRP and clockmod (CWM) they are 2 different tools but have the exact same functions, just a user choice. Sometimes custom rom preferred one over the other. I like TWRP a bit better (easier).

is there a way to check if it is rooted or not?

legender said:
is there a way to check if it is rooted or not?
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Download rootchecker in the play store
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Used odin to upgrade to 4.4.2 and now unable to root

My note 3 was previously rooted with TWRP and CM11.
I wanted to upgrade my firmware to official 4.4.2 kit kat and root my device again to try a different rom.
However things went to the dumps and now I can't root my phone. I insert the md5 file into oden and let it run and everything passes but the phone just reboots into recovery in a cycle.
To get away from the cycle, I have to flash the official 4.4.2 firmware again, which causes me to setup my accounts and everything from the beginning
I need to know how to root for 4.4.2 succesfully, please help.
Also, when i check the storage (internal) capacity of my phone after flashing of the firmware, I see that it takes up 7 gig. Is that too much for a fresh firmware install?

Afaik, based o. Reading the forums....there isn't a way to root 4.4.2 yet
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brsingr said:
Afaik, based o. Reading the forums....there isn't a way to root 4.4.2 yet
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But i just rooted my phone. I'm on 4.4.2 right now.
I figured out what my problem was, I was rooting trying to use my old root on the new firmware.

dkim3 said:
But i just rooted my phone. I'm on 4.4.2 right now.
I figured out what my problem was, I was rooting trying to use my old root on the new firmware.
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Think he meant no way to root without tripping knox.

dkim3 said:
But i just rooted my phone. I'm on 4.4.2 right now.
I figured out what my problem was, I was rooting trying to use my old root on the new firmware.
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ah, ok...guess i just havent seen yet on the forums

I've got my root, how do you install CWM or TWRP back? When i installed CM11 before, TWRP was already preinstalled.
I'd like to install one of those to flash a new rom.

You can use Odin or Goo manager from the play store. Check in the development thread and there are guides to install, I don't have time to check atm but if not answered later I will check for you.

Jfree3000 said:
You can use Odin or Goo manager from the play store. Check in the development thread and there are guides to install, I don't have time to check atm but if not answered later I will check for you.
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Thanks for reply,
I tried GooManager earlier and it failed on me.
It didn't go to TWRP when i recovered, it went to android system recovery.

Jfree3000 said:
You can use Odin or Goo manager from the play store. Check in the development thread and there are guides to install, I don't have time to check atm but if not answered later I will check for you.
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Thanks for reply,
I tried GooManager earlier and it failed on me.
It didn't go to TWRP when i recovered, it went to android system recovery.

dkim3 said:
Thanks for reply,
I tried GooManager earlier and it failed on me.
It didn't go to TWRP when i recovered, it went to android system recovery.
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Questipon did you odin 4.4? if you you need the ywrp made for the 4.4 bootloader.. http://www.techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/hltetmo
All the way at the bottom the .tar and flash thru odin

deeznutz1977 said:
Questipon did you odin 4.4? if you you need the ywrp made for the 4.4 bootloader.. http://www.techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/hltetmo
All the way at the bottom the .tar and flash thru odin
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Thanks mate

SuperSU Error after cf-auto

Hi friendly xda android enthusiasts. I have, after many issues, finally rooted my gt-n5110 using odin and cf-auto. Workered without a hitch. Odin passed, tab rebooted, and BAM, "superSU has stopped working". I immediately navigated myself over to the playstore to reinstall SuperSU and for the first time i have ever seen it wouldnt allow me to. It only gave me a choice to open. No update no uninstall. Going into my apps list it was not present on downloads but was available on device list. Clucked it and no option to uninstall, only to force stop or turn off. So it is incorporated as a system with no access to it. This has me stumped. I have only seen old threads with answers to this and they are temp fixes. Need to know what i can do to fix this on a permanent basis and if someone could help me understand how and why this issue occured it would give me a better understanding and possibly prevent further issues. Thanks in advance guys.

Try the flashable version in this post after you install a custom recovery with odin.
ramjet73

ramjet73 said:
Try the flashable version in this post after you install a custom recovery with odin.
ramjet73
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This may be a very stupid question but i have to be sure. As i stated the odin DID pass the auto root and tab rebooted. But along with the superSU error i ran root checker and was unable to obtain root. Im assuming its because supersu is not embedded. So with that said is it still ok to attempt to flash a recovery to the tab?

mattdiehl83 said:
This may be a very stupid question but i have to be sure. As i stated the odin DID pass the auto root and tab rebooted. But along with the superSU error i ran root checker and was unable to obtain root. Im assuming its because supersu is not embedded. So with that said is it still ok to attempt to flash a recovery to the tab?
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Yes. Recovery is independent of whether or not you are rooted. You can install it from Android using tools like Flashify once you are properly rooted, but Odin works fine as long as you have a version of recovery in that format.
Flashing SuperSU from a custom recovery once it is installed should fix the superuser problems you are having.
ramjet73

ramjet73 said:
Yes. Recovery is independent of whether or not you are rooted. You can install it from Android using tools like Flashify once you are properly rooted, but Odin works fine as long as you have a version of recovery in that format.
Flashing SuperSU from a custom recovery once it is installed should fix the superuser problems you are having.
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Doing now. Thankyou. Fingers crossed.

I had the same issue on my 5110. The flashable root only worked for me until I rebooted, then it would lose root. What ultimately worked for me was to unroot with Kingo. Then with USB debugging enabled, re-rooted with Kingo (which took around 10 min).
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andygev35 said:
I had the same issue on my 5110. The flashable root only worked for me until I rebooted, then it would lose root. What ultimately worked for me was to unroot with Kingo. Then with USB debugging enabled, re-rooted with Kingo (which took around 10 min).
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If flashing SuperSU from recovery doesn't result in a successful rooted system someone should let @Chainfire know. I've never had a problem rooting a stock ROM that way but let's see what @mattdiehl83 reports.
ramjet73

OS X
ramjet73 said:
If flashing SuperSU from recovery doesn't result in a successful rooted system someone should let @Chainfire know. I've never had a problem rooting a stock ROM that way but let's see what @mattdiehl83 reports.
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Not near pc. Only have OS X available now. Can anybody walk me through using OS X to flash?

mattdiehl83 said:
Not near pc. Only have OS X available now. Can anybody walk me through using OS X to flash?
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The recovery? I don't know if there is an OS X version of Odin.
ramjet73

ramjet73 said:
The recovery? I don't know if there is an OS X version of Odin.
ramjet73
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I am wondering what flashing tool to use with OS X. Odin is for windows. I know of heimdall but that requires ALOT to flash anything. Wondering if there is another odin like tool for OS X

You could try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2598203
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done.
Hi guys sorry for the delay in update. I ended up using VM ware and it allowed to operate as windows on OS X. I installed TWRP, went into the file manager in TWRP and removed the superSU, i then flashed superSU and rebooted. Once back to the tablet i went and restored services to superSU and went into the play store. And finally the playstore gave me the option the update the superSU. And then the rest was all normal installation of superSU. Hope this thread helps anybody dealing with these issues.

Glad you got it working. :good:
This post in the CF-Autoroot thread might be helpful as well.
ramjet73

there is a easy way to fix it!
download supersu 2.02 and install ta da and it works
2.01 does not work with n5110 well if you flash cf auto root

hmmmm.....
Bordo_Bereli51 said:
there is a easy way to fix it!
download supersu 2.02 and install ta da and it works
2.01 does not work with n5110 well if you flash cf auto root
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Tada..your a genius. Oh wait i believe i stated it didnt have that option it was disabled. Yes i decided scarcasm would be fitting due to the fact it says ALL OVER xda to please read before you post.

mattdiehl83 said:
Tada..your a genius. Oh wait i believe i stated it didnt have that option it was disabled. Yes i decided scarcasm would be fitting due to the fact it says ALL OVER xda to please read before you post.
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I read all the post and didnt found something
YOU DONT NEED TO DELETE SUPERSU 2.0.1
Install 2.02 apk and go to supersu, then to settings and push to /system
This is the easiest way. the one you found: go to recovery delete that and this. download supersu 2.0.2 apk and install it not the recovery zip i mean the APK! i didnt say the flashable supersu zip.
oh wait, yes you are a intelligent boy, you know everything.

mattdiehl83 said:
I am wondering what flashing tool to use with OS X. Odin is for windows. I know of heimdall but that requires ALOT to flash anything. Wondering if there is another odin like tool for OS X
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That's a bit of a dilemma.
Unfortunately Samsung does not support using fastboot and bootloader mode (they call it download mode) so that standard SDK tool Google provides for Windows, Linux and MAC OS X isn't applicable. Your best bet would be to find a Windows PC that you can use to flash the recovery with Odin since that is the most common and best documented method.
Edit: NVM, somehow I responded to an old post of yours.
ramjet73

can't get a rom to load, probably a newbie think on my part.

Now that i'm in the correct thread.......
this phone is just for messing with so backup isn't needed. Unlocked, son did factory reset only twrp was left on it. D/L Magma rom, went into twrp clicked on zip, nadda. D/L different rom (forget the name) still no dice. D/L Odin, installed stock rom, phone works no issues etc, but twrp was gone. Re-loaded twrp with Odin, but still couldn't get either of the previous 2 roms to load. Searches have yielded inconsistent results. Some say you can load a rom over the stock with Odin, others say you can't. Tried to find a rom I could load via Odin that would work on the sm-n900t but the stock rom is all that comes up in my searches. Not really sure where to go from here, if someone can point me in the right direction it would be appreciated. I'm pretty sure I d/l the correct twrp for my phone as I actively looked to make sure I was getting the one for my phone, and it said it was......

Are you using a version from here: https://dl.twrp.me/hltetmo/ ?

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Are you using a version from here: https://dl.twrp.me/hltetmo/ ?
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the file I used is twrp-3.2.3-0-hlte.img.tar

kevin24018 said:
this phone is just for messing with so backup isn't needed.
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Trust me, backup is always needed.
kevin24018 said:
Unlocked, son did factory reset only twrp was left on it. D/L Magma rom, went into twrp clicked on zip, nadda. D/L different rom (forget the name) still no dice.
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you might be installing wrong version of rom. (i'll tell you why i assumed this)
kevin24018 said:
D/L Odin, installed stock rom, phone works no issues etc, but twrp was gone. Re-loaded twrp with Odin, but still couldn't get either of the previous 2 roms to load. .
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when you install stock rom through odin. it removes everything. everything means your device is as new as you bought it. so when you installed stock rom, it always removes twrp and installs stock recovery. same goes with any custom rom you previously installed.
kevin24018 said:
Searches have yielded inconsistent results. Some say you can load a rom over the stock with Odin, others say you can't.
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yes you can load a rom over the stock but not with odin. with twrp instead.
kevin24018 said:
Tried to find a rom I could load via Odin that would work on the sm-n900t but the stock rom is all that comes up in my searches. Not really sure where to go from here, if someone can point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
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normally people use odin to install stock roms or twrp or for root. nobody installs custom rom through odin. i don't want you to go deep into this right now so i'm just suggesting you the easiest way.
i assume currently you have stock lollipop rom rooted with twrp. all you need to do is to go to here ans choose your rom. read and follow instruction to the point. i'm sure you'll get things done .
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I'm pretty sure I d/l the correct twrp for my phone as I actively looked to make sure I was getting the one for my phone, and it said it was......
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now sadly. the twrp version you mentioned above is for n9005 international version while you're having n900t (t mobile version) so you'll need correct twrp the says "tmo" or something like this.
above i said you might be installing wrong version of rom because you're not using correct twrp and pretty sure about it. thats why i assumed you may also have d/l wrong version of rom.
long story short : you need everything regarding tmobile (tmo) not any other. just in case please check if you really have n900t or not by taking out battery.

Sharjeel.Khan said:
Trust me, backup is always needed.
you might be installing wrong version of rom. (i'll tell you why i assumed this)
when you install stock rom through odin. it removes everything. everything means your device is as new as you bought it. so when you installed stock rom, it always removes twrp and installs stock recovery. same goes with any custom rom you previously installed.
yes you can load a rom over the stock but not with odin. with twrp instead.
normally people use odin to install stock roms or twrp or for root. nobody installs custom rom through odin. i don't want you to go deep into this right now so i'm just suggesting you the easiest way.
i assume currently you have stock lollipop rom rooted with twrp. all you need to do is to go to here ans choose your rom. read and follow instruction to the point. i'm sure you'll get things done .
now sadly. the twrp version you mentioned above is for n9005 international version while you're having n900t (t mobile version) so you'll need correct twrp the says "tmo" or something like this.
above i said you might be installing wrong version of rom because you're not using correct twrp and pretty sure about it. thats why i assumed you may also have d/l wrong version of rom.
long story short : you need everything regarding tmobile (tmo) not any other. just in case please check if you really have n900t or not by taking out battery.
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after installing the correct twrp, I was able to install Lineage, thanks for the help. I have a better idea of what I'm doing, I'll continue to play around with it.