This may sound odd, but are there any non-rooted roms for the T-Mobile GS4 that are stripped down of all the Samsung bloatware, etc?
My company requires me to run MaaaS360 MDM on my device for email, and it detects root. However, I can't stand to go back to stock touchwiz. Looking for a rom that is stripped down of the bloat, but doesn't have root, if it exists? No touchwiz at all would be great, but I can always just put another launcher on myself.
Thanks!
WSFrazier said:
This may sound odd, but are there any non-rooted roms for the T-Mobile GS4 that are stripped down of all the Samsung bloatware, etc?
My company requires me to run MaaaS360 MDM on my device for email, and it detects root. However, I can't stand to go back to stock touchwiz. Looking for a rom that is stripped down of the bloat, but doesn't have root, if it exists? No touchwiz at all would be great, but I can always just put another launcher on myself.
Thanks!
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2 options.
You may be able to hide root. They are several apps on Google Play that are supposed to do exactly that. They basically act as a fire wall and route all requests to search for Superuser to run through the app, and only allow approved apps to see root. Their effectiveness varies. Try a few and see if you can find one that works.
As for a non rooted ROM, you can un-root any ROM. Find any ROM you like, install it. Then open Superuser settings and you should find an option to uninstall Superuser. Just click it and Superuser will remove itself.
You can always keep a flashable superuser.zip on your SD card too so you can reboot to recovery, flash superuser to get root if you need it to fix somthing, then unistall it again when you are done.
Have you tried any xposed modules to hide root from that app? And there are also stripped stock ROMs.. once you flash them you can go into the superuser app and select to unroot
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I would love to run an AOSP rom, such as CM11, but I fear something that out of ordinary might get picked up easier by the MDM, besides it just being rooted. Not sure what else the MDM scans for.
Any recommendations on a stripped down stock rom ?
WSFrazier said:
I would love to run an AOSP rom, such as CM11, but I fear something that out of ordinary might get picked up easier by the MDM, besides it just being rooted. Not sure what else the MDM scans for.
Any recommendations on a stripped down stock rom ?
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There is nothing out of the ordinary with an AOSP rom. It's made by Google.
If anything TouchWiz is the rom that's full of extra uneeded stuff.
You can certainly flash the pure Google edition ROM and unroot it. It's pure AOSP, just like if you were using a Nexus 5. Nothing aftermarket about it.
Skipjacks said:
There is nothing out of the ordinary with an AOSP rom. It's made by Google.
If anything TouchWiz is the rom that's full of extra uneeded stuff.
You can certainly flash the pure Google edition ROM and unroot it. It's pure AOSP, just like if you were using a Nexus 5. Nothing aftermarket about it.
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Well I also wonder if an AOSP rom like that would require root more than a stripped down stock rom. If I unroot with an AOSP, is it going to function correctly?
WSFrazier said:
Well I also wonder if an AOSP rom like that would require root more than a stripped down stock rom. If I unroot with an AOSP, is it going to function correctly?
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Yes it will function correctly.
It is the google edition rom, deved by google itself. Its the rom that comes stock on the S4 Google Edition.
No rom NEEDS root to work. Every rom has root access itself. It does not need Superuser because its already installed on the system partition.
Only some apps need root access to work. Without root those apps wont work but the rom will be just fine.
Sent from your phone. You should be more careful where you leave that thing.
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i want to to flash the stock android rom on my s4 but i dont know if i want to give up on the airview and the other features touchwiz offers. is there a way to back up touchwiz using clockwork mod or something like it?
All stock Roms for the S4 are Touchwiz. You don't need to worry about losing any of the features. Only AOSP, CM OR AOKP Roms are TWless. Flash away my friend.
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jeanluisr said:
i want to to flash the stock android rom on my s4 but i dont know if i want to give up on the airview and the other features touchwiz offers. is there a way to back up touchwiz using clockwork mod or something like it?
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Any files in the "Android Development" thread are STOCK with modified features.
Any files in the "Original Android Development" thread are AOSP/KANG/etc. Those will more than likely not include TW features.
Feel free to flash any ROM from the Android Development thread if you wish to have TW features. If you are still unsure, post a link to the one you want and we'll confirm if it is TW or not. Happy hunting.
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Any files in the "Android Development" thread are STOCK with modified features.
Any files in the "Original Android Development" thread are AOSP/KANG/etc. Those will more than likely not include TW features.
Feel free to flash any ROM from the Android Development thread if you wish to have TW features. If you are still unsure, post a link to the one you want and we'll confirm if it is TW or not. Happy hunting.
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What i wanted to flash is the rom ported from the google play edition GS4. i figured i could restore the GS4 to factory image using Odin if i ever wanted to go back to touchwiz.
jeanluisr said:
What i wanted to flash is the rom ported from the google play edition GS4. i figured i could restore the GS4 to factory image using Odin if i ever wanted to go back to touchwiz.
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You have to make sure you know what you're talking about. There are two types of recoveries:
1) Odin Recovery - You plug your phone to your computer and flash TAR files.
2) Flash Recovery - You go into recovery on your phone by pressing Vol Up + Home + Power and then choosing "install from zip."
You only need to use Odin recoveries if you have:
1) Bricked your phone or corrupted the recovery and can't access anything.
2) If you want to go back to 100% stock for varying reasons (i.e., exchanging for warranty).
For all other times, you want to flash roms through recovery. This is simple and will allow you to flash many different ROMs without having to worry about plugging your phone into your computer. When you Odin, you lose your bootloader, your root, and your custom recovery and have to reinstall your root and recovery. But if you just use flashable roms, you won't lose your bootloader, your root, or your custom recovery.
TL: DR; Odin flash if you want to exchange your phone for warranty or messed it up so bad that you can't access recovery. For testing out new roms, only flash rom through recovery (and almost EVERY rom in our forums are flashable through recovery). Hope that helps. :good:
Hello. I am using a new Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 wifi model. I like the stock rom but i want to get rid of some of the apps from the stock without any mods. I just want a stock rom without all the bloatware like chaton, flipboard, groupplay, samsung account,learning hub, play books etc.
I know, i can root it and unninstall the apps or not root and deactivate apps. But i want a rom based on the stock rom WITHOUT those apps (which i can do a clean flash).
Is there a way to do it?
10x
Lostboymir said:
Hello. I am using a new Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 wifi model. I like the stock rom but i want to get rid of some of the apps from the stock without any mods. I just want a stock rom without all the bloatware like chaton, flipboard, groupplay, samsung account,learning hub, play books etc.
I know, i can root it and unninstall the apps or not root and deactivate apps. But i want a rom based on the stock rom WITHOUT those apps (which i can do a clean flash).
Is there a way to do it?
10x
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Well i was gonna suggest the root and uninstall but then i read a little farther lol. But i suppose if you do just root it and use an app like RootAppDelete, you can remove the apps you don't want and then use a custom recovery to save the state of the stock rom (ie backup).
Im no developer so thats the best amateur thing i can suggest, plus RootAppDelete shows you what apps correlate with other apps, so you never run the risk of deleting a system application.
Thank you for that ideea. But i am sure there is a way to modify a stock rom i order to flash it. Obviously, an easy way, not something very complicated. I just want to optimize the rom i am using.
Couldn't you remove everything you don't want then backup up the ROM using TWRP or CWM etc.
I know it wouldn't be a flashable zip like you get with custom ROMs like CM but at least you'll be to restore from it in the future.
I think that you can open the md5 file (stock rom file) with winrar or winzip, I have never tried it but md5 is another type of compressed files
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New to this phone and I am running 4.1.2 there is a system update a 4.3 that's already downloaded and ready to install but I wanted to make sure the update didn't install any new locks on my phone before I accept. I plan on rooting soon.
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Rich
U get knox but there are ways to still root with knox so go ahead update
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Uuum hold on. If you plan to root your phone there is no point in allowing the OTA which does install KNOX. Root now and save that extra trouble.
tx_dbs_tx said:
Uuum hold on. If you plan to root your phone there is no point in allowing the OTA which does install KNOX. Root now and save that extra trouble.
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If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
I Would Accept It.
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If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
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If I was in this position, I would accept the update as doubledragon5 said and move forward with root, etc. I have 4.1.2 right now and want the 4.3 update, but I'm rooted and trying to figure out how to unravel this to get to 4.3 myself.
flashred said:
If I was in this position, I would accept the update as doubledragon5 said and move forward with root, etc. I have 4.1.2 right now and want the 4.3 update, but I'm rooted and trying to figure out how to unravel this to get to 4.3 myself.
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If your rooted, go back to bone stock MC2 like I have mentioned in a few other threads. accept the 4.3 udate from sprint, re-root using the tookit, then flash away...
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If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
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If your rooted, go back to bone stock MC2 like I have mentioned in a few other threads. accept the 4.3 udate from sprint, re-root using the tookit, then flash away...
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Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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I'm wondering the same thing. But if we root then accept the OTA won't that enable the knox counter? So that if we now, "flash away".... won't every flash be counted?
Shouldn't we root, then install the custom roms without the knox? Or do the custom roms also include the knox counter tripping mechanism?
I would like to know how this works also.
Thanks.
I just recently came from 4.1.2 rooted running a deoxided stock rom. I didn't do the OTA update to 4.3. I used the TeamRejects Deoxidexed rooted deknoxed stock rom, the updated MK4 modem, and the WiFi fix. It took about 15-20 minutes to get everything done. I needed to download Odin too for WiFi fix. I didn't run the WiFi fix till I knew there was an issue.
Not much of complaint, but I wish there was a kernel like Perseus for TouchWix based roms. The only one I found was Devil Kernel, but for whatever reason, wasn't stable with TeamReject's ROM. I didn't really care for his custom Kernel ajdustment manager and STweaks didn't work with it at all. Ideally, I prefer a stock rooted deknoxed deoxidized bare bones rom (just phone, contacts, google play) so I have a working phone and can access Google Play so I can install the apps I prefer. The closest I found was Classic Rom but it freezes on initial rom load; Plus, I'm not a fan of the colors and the few things he choose to include.
Stock 4.3 Deodexed, deknoxed, Rooted Rom Available?
lovekeiiy said:
I just recently came from 4.1.2 rooted running a deoxided stock rom. I didn't do the OTA update to 4.3. I used the TeamRejects Deoxidexed rooted deknoxed stock rom, the updated MK4 modem, and the WiFi fix. It took about 15-20 minutes to get everything done. I needed to download Odin too for WiFi fix. I didn't run the WiFi fix till I knew there was an issue.
Not much of complaint, but I wish there was a kernel like Perseus for TouchWix based roms. The only one I found was Devil Kernel, but for whatever reason, wasn't stable with TeamReject's ROM. I didn't really care for his custom Kernel ajdustment manager and STweaks didn't work with it at all. Ideally, I prefer a stock rooted deknoxed deoxidized bare bones rom (just phone, contacts, google play) so I have a working phone and can access Google Play so I can install the apps I prefer. The closest I found was Classic Rom but it freezes on initial rom load; Plus, I'm not a fan of the colors and the few things he choose to include.
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So, you came exactly where I did except you with a different ROM. I would like to get from my 4.1.2 rooted up to 4.3 rooted stock,deodexed, deknoxed if at all possible.
flashred said:
Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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Sorry for not getting back sooner. I have been busy with work, and family things.Use billards return to full stock with counter reset. It installs everything including recovery, boot loader,firemware etc... Then set up your phone, when prompt accept the ota update.. Once done retoot, and flash what ever 4.3 rom you want.. The knox counter will still be there, but if you need a trip back to Sprint, go back to Full MC2 stock, knox counter will no longer be there.. Most 4.3 room do not include the Knox files so no worries there.
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So, you came exactly where I did except you with a different ROM. I would like to get from my 4.1.2 rooted up to 4.3 rooted stock,deodexed, deknoxed if at all possible.
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Sounds like it. The odd part, I have been able to flash Reject's stock deoxidezed deknoxed rom with no problem. I tried to flash Classic 3, but it froze on Classic's initial loading page (the one after the Samsung boot loader). I had issues another rom, but turned out it was for the international model; I wasn't paying attention where I was in the forums.
If you do what I did, you'll need to flash modem update using Odin on the PC. So, you may need to download Odin.
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Depending on what you like to do, you may find 4.3 MK4 more limiting, espcially on the TouchWiz side. AOSP probably more mod friendly at this point. From what I've been able to find, there is only one custom kernal for 4.3 TouchWiz which is Devil's Kernal. It's solid, but my phone was unstable. Not sure if the phone since I may have taken out something it used when I was trying to debloat the phone. Didn't care for his Kernel Tweak manager. Neither the stock or devil's kernal supports Stweaks. Neither I could figure out how to change the boat loading animation.
I have nothing against AOSP projects. I like them. But as far as I know, none support the Spen, which I like to use with web browsers. Don't use the Samnsung Spen apps. Just wasn't that impressed with them, but I see how they can be useful. Although, SketchPro is really nice with it. I just find TouchWiz is more than sufficient for my needs and stock isn't as quirky.
I have a ZL c6506 and want a custom rom that comes closest to the stock rom.
My question is if there are any out there or not.
Thanks.
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O1A2K said:
I have a ZL c6506 and want a custom rom that comes closest to the stock rom.
My question is if there are any out there or not.
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Curious, why would you need an "almost-stock" custom ROM? My suggestion would be to use full stock, root it, debloat manually, and tweak with Xposed (that's what I do, anyway). This will be as close to stock as it can get, while still being customized to your liking, beyond just running a 3rd-party launcher...
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Curious, why would you need an "almost-stock" custom ROM? My suggestion would be to use full stock, root it, debloat manually, and tweak with Xposed (that's what I do, anyway). This will be as close to stock as it can get, while still being customized to your liking, beyond just running a 3rd-party launcher...
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In order to root 5.0.2 on zl I need to flash jb rom and root that then go back upto lp. But the stock rom will override the root beating the whole purpose.
My 'client' wants it stock rom so any custom rom is not an option that's why I'm asking for custom rom closest to stock.
thanks
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O1A2K said:
In order to root 5.0.2 on zl I need to flash jb rom and root that then go back upto lp. But the stock rom will override the root beating the whole purpose.
My 'client' wants it stock rom so any custom rom is not an option that's why I'm asking for custom rom closest to stock.
thanks
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Ah, OK. Yeah, rooting LP on ZL is kinda pain in the rear. You could use KingRoot, and then "convert" to SuperSU, but it seems to be hit and miss, based on what I read. Personally, I created a flashable pre-rooted stock 5.0.2 using PRFC, and just flashed it from recovery, being on rooted stock KK (no need to go to JB). Worked perfectly.
However, I am still not clear on how you are going to flash the "almost-stock" custom ROM, anyway... You won't find an FTF file for this kind of ROM, and to use a flashable zip, you have to be rooted and running a custom recovery to begin with (regardless of the OS version). I don't see how that would be different from what I am suggesting (using PRFC to make a pre-rooted flashable stock)... I think in your case, if the ultimate goal is to have rooted stock, this would be the best solution.
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Ah, OK. Yeah, rooting LP on ZL is kinda pain in the rear. You could use KingRoot, and then "convert" to SuperSU, but it seems to be hit and miss, based on what I read. Personally, I created a flashable pre-rooted stock 5.0.2 using PRFC, and just flashed it from recovery, being on rooted stock KK (no need to go to JB). Worked perfectly.
However, I am still not clear on how you are going to flash the "almost-stock" custom ROM, anyway... You won't find an FTF file for this kind of ROM, and to use a flashable zip, you have to be rooted and running a custom recovery to begin with (regardless of the OS version). I don't see how that would be different from what I am suggesting (using PRFC to make a pre-rooted flashable stock)... I think in your case, if the ultimate goal is to have rooted stock, this would be the best solution.
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Thanks for the reply. If you don't mind may you link me your flashable pre rooted stock 5.0.2. If not then can you link the sites used to achieve that.
thanks.
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O1A2K said:
Thanks for the reply. If you don't mind may you link me your flashable pre rooted stock 5.0.2. If not then can you link the sites used to achieve that.
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I didn't upload my ROM anywhere... I can possibly put it on Mega, but I am not sure what phone models you have (I am using C6506). I would suggest you put it together yourself - just use the PRFC software and instructions from this thread. You will need the original FTF file from Sony (if you don't have it, use XperiFirm to download it). I didn't include the recovery (XZDR), and flashed it separately afterwards. But it looks like with the latest XZDR release it works, and it can be included in the ROM zip. Either way, try it out, it worked for me.
Hi, i succesfully rooted my LG G3. The main reason for doing this is because i was back able to write to SD card with many apps. Now that is ok. But i wonderd what else i can do since i am rooted now. I am actually happy with stock ROM but i would like to get rid of all that bloatware. What do you guys recommend. Delete all apps i don't need or flash new ROM without bloatware. I read that with many ROM's we lose the quality of the camera. Let me say that i use the camera on my LG G3 ALOT! So i don't wanna lose quality on the camera. Should i stay then with stock ROM?
thanks
camera quality problems exist in non stock based roms (cm12 based) don't worry about it in stock based roms.
After rooting my stock rom I usually install Titanium Backup and remove the programs I don't use. Then I install Startup Manager and take control on what starts up with android.
Do you guys install TWRP custom recovery?
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Do you guys install TWRP custom recovery?
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Installing a custom recovery like TWRP is good for a rooted device . It is necessary for installing a custom rom. The easiest way to insatll TWRP is by using autorec app from playstore. You just have to download the app for your device and open it.
Titanium backup or ROM toolbox are good apps for a rooted phone and both of them will allow you to remove bloatware.
Ok thanks will look at it