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Hi,
I want to buy the htc one m8 from the usa (verizon, at&t, sprint, t-mobile etc...)
I'm from europe and in my country lte will be available in 1800 and 2600 (band 3 and 7)
I've got comfused from all of the specs, so which variant htc support band 3 and/or 7?
Thanks for your help
Don't buy a USA phone to use in Europe they're different for a reason. The Asia version is more likely to be compatible with European bands.
Certainly not Verizon or Sprint!
iii2 said:
Hi,
I want to buy the htc one m8 from the usa (verizon, at&t, sprint, t-mobile etc...)
I'm from europe and in my country lte will be available in 1800 and 2600 (band 3 and 7)
I've got comfused from all of the specs, so which variant htc support band 3 and/or 7?
Thanks for your help
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To be 100% sure of compatibility, buy the EU handset if you're in the EU - it makes sense
EddyOS said:
To be 100% sure of compatibility, buy the EU handset if you're in the EU - it makes sense
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I would but it just don't worth the money, both europe and asia version are way more expensive, so i prefer to go with a cheaper device, 32gb and withouht lte. But still, at least one usa network should support band 3 and 7, anyone know?
iii2 said:
I would but it just don't worth the money, both europe and asia version are way more expensive, so i prefer to go with a cheaper device, 32gb and withouht lte. But still, at least one usa network should support band 3 and 7, anyone know?
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Having a warranty and full support from HTC is more than worth the money IMO
I'm from Israel, we don't have an offical HTC in here so it doesn't change a lot. I will probably also install roms so the warranry isn't that usefull :/
EddyOS said:
To be 100% sure of compatibility, buy the EU handset if you're in the EU - it makes sense
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Agree. Plus, not sure if the OP intends to root or not. But left stock, the AT&T version in particular has critical functions disabled (WiFi hotspot); and you will also typically not receive OTA updates outside the US. I'd stay away from buying the AT&T variant for use in other countries, unless you have a definitive reason to pick that variant.
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iii2 said:
But still, at least one usa network should support band 3 and 7, anyone know?
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Why would you assume that? According to the following Wiki, those bands are not supported in the US:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
According to gsm arena, the AT&T and Verizon variants support LTE 1800 and 2600 MHz (bands 3 and 7, respectively); probably for international roaming purposes. But I'd still recommend buying the Euro or Asian version over either of these. And gsm arena is not always 100% accurate, so I'd take it with a grain or salt and research more before making any decision:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)-6074.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)_cdma-6233.php
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Agree. Plus, not sure if the OP intends to root or not. But left stock, the AT&T version in particular has critical functions disabled (WiFi hotspot); and you will also typically not receive OTA updates outside the US. I'd stay away from buying the AT&T variant for use in other countries, unless you have a definitive reason to pick that variant.
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Why would you assume that? According to the following Wiki, those bands are not supported in the US:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
According to gsm arena, the AT&T and Verizon variants support LTE 1800 and 2600 MHz (bands 3 and 7, respectively); probably for international roaming purposes. But I'd still recommend buying the Euro or Asian version over either of these. And gsm arena is not always 100% accurate, so I'd take it with a grain or salt and research more before making any decision:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)-6074.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)_cdma-6233.php
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Thanks for your help, but again, I know buying it from europe or asia is the best solution but in that case i wont get 32gb and it will cost me 300$ more, It just doesn't worth it since lte is still not available and it will be only in israel by the end of 2014. And i will install a custom rom, so OTA updates and the carrier bloat doesn't bother me that much.
I also don't think gsmarena is that accurate. accordint to htc website these are the bands:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 700/900/1800/2100/2600 MHz
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1800/1900/2600 MHz
Sprint: FDD 800/1900 MHz , TDD 2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
TMUS: 700/AWS MHz
but it looks really untrustable, because in the othe rhand, anandtech site telling somthing else: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7893/the-htc-one-m8-review
I just don't know which site is right :silly:
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I also don't think gsmarena is that accurate. accordint to htc website these are the bands:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 700/900/1800/2100/2600 MHz
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1800/1900/2600 MHz
Sprint: FDD 800/1900 MHz , TDD 2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
TMUS: 700/AWS MHz
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I don't see a difference between this, and what is posted on GSM Arena (the links I posted).
AWS band is 1700/2100 MHz (Band 4). Its a bit confusing that GSM Arena lists them like they are 2 different bands. But one is used for upload, the other for download. So its not to be confused with 2100 Mhz (band 1) for instance.
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I don't see a difference between this, and what is posted on GSM Arena (the links I posted).
AWS band is 1700/2100 MHz (Band 4). Its a bit confusing that GSM Arena lists them like they are 2 different bands. But one is used for upload, the other for download. So its not to be confused with 2100 Mhz (band 1) for instance.
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I see, but it is diffrenet from the table band in here http://www.anandtech.com/show/7893/the-htc-one-m8-review, like verizon in htc site has the 1800 mhz but in the table on anandtech channel 3 isn't there.
iii2 said:
I see, but it is diffrenet from the table band in here http://www.anandtech.com/show/7893/the-htc-one-m8-review, like verizon in htc site has the 1800 mhz but in the table on anandtech channel 3 isn't there.
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You can probably find a lot of websites that have incorrect specification information on this (and other) phones. That's unfortunately just a fact. I think I've even seen spec errors on HTC's on website for some of their devices. Your best bet is to get as much reliable info as you can. Since HTC's own website agrees with GSM Arena, I'd go with those. But that is just my own conclusion.
In any case, I wouldn't recommend the Verizon (CDMA) version. You don't need CDMA, and it might introduce a whole lot of needless complications. The CDMA versions also don't seem to have quite the developer support that the GSM only versions enjoy.
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You can probably find a lot of websites that have incorrect specification information on this (and other) phones. That's unfortunately just a fact. I think I've even seen spec errors on HTC's on website for some of their devices. Your best bet is to get as much reliable info as you can. Since HTC's own website agrees with GSM Arena, I'd go with those. But that is just my own conclusion.
In any case, I wouldn't recommend the Verizon (CDMA) version. You don't need CDMA, and it might introduce a whole lot of needless complications. The CDMA versions also don't seem to have quite the developer support that the GSM only versions enjoy.
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which devices are cdma?
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which devices are cdma?
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Sprint and Verizon
Hey,
I am also looking for buying the phone form the US although I am not from there (I am from Israel as well but currently in Australia), I was thinking about getting the Unlocked version but I'm not sure which bands does it support, I tried looking on GSMarena, HTC website but couldn't find any info and when I asked the Online chat support they did not know the answer, so do you have any idea which bands the unlocked version supports and do you think there would be a problem with bands if I get it from the US and use it in Israel/Aus?, as the other user said, it is way cheaper in the US, the 32GB in the US is cheaper than the 16GB in AU!
Thanks Heaps
S.Y.Z
Hi guys,
(I tried searching this and so far no answers)
I want to buy an unlocked Zenfone 2 ZE551ML.
In the US, the price is nice at $299 (for the 64GB). In Japan it's over $500 (OK, with the exchange rate it's a little less, but...).
(Sorry, the site is preventing me from including external links)
http colon //goo dot gl/ss7hV8
The problem I am having is finding out if it's truly compatible with Japanese and US carriers. I would like to take this thing back and forth.
The frequencies look right, but on all the AusTek documentation is says (JP Version) near the 4G FDD-LTE frequencies. Do the major carriers in Japan use some variant of FDD-LTE that is different from the US? Or is this only a marketing strategy?
The only difference I have seen in the past on Japanese phones is that here they always come with a TV Antennae built in for Digital Japanese TV and the freakin' Carrier charges a monthly fee for the TV app! Haha
Here's the information from Asus Japan (open it in Chrome and it will translate the Japanese for you, albeit badly):
http colon //goo dot gl/3zo5E3
Decent worldwide Frequency list:
http colon //goo dot gl/EuOKoy
Anyone try this out between the US and Japan?
Thanks in advance.
The US version is the WW version with one more band available (Band 12 I think which is used by AT&T in the US). Weird that the US version has more Bands than the World Wide version. So if the WW version works in Japan, the the US version will as well.
Thank you for your quick response!
I just really want to make sure that there aren't different versions of FDD-LTE frequencies. Some kind of encoding that's different or something. The thing that keeps throwing me is that on all the specification lists from Asus for the Japanese versions it says "(JP Version)" next to FDD-LTE.
From the Asustek Japan website:
2G :
EDGE/GSM :
850/900/1800/1900,
3G :W-CDMA 800(6)/850(5)/900(8)/1900(2) /2100(1)MHz
4G :
FDD-LTE: (JP version)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700/2100MHz(4)/850MHz(5)/800MHz(6)/900MHz(8)/1700MHz(9)/800MHz(18)/800MHz(19)/700MHz(28)
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I also looked on the wiki article of LTE bands and I don't see any special notes for LTE in Japan so it's probably fine.
en dot wikipedia dot org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
What say you internet?
ClulessInTokyo said:
Thank you for your quick response!
I just really want to make sure that there aren't different versions of FDD-LTE frequencies. Some kind of encoding that's different or something. The thing that keeps throwing me is that on all the specification lists from Asus for the Japanese versions it says "(JP Version)" next to FDD-LTE.
From the Asustek Japan website:
2G :
EDGE/GSM :
850/900/1800/1900,
3G :W-CDMA 800(6)/850(5)/900(8)/1900(2) /2100(1)MHz
4G :
FDD-LTE: (JP version)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700/2100MHz(4)/850MHz(5)/800MHz(6)/900MHz(8)/1700MHz(9)/800MHz(18)/800MHz(19)/700MHz(28)
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I also looked on the wiki article of LTE bands and I don't see any special notes for LTE in Japan so it's probably fine.
en dot wikipedia dot org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
What say you internet?
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If it's any help, I am using in Japan using a ww ZE550ML bought from Expansys. I use it with an OCN sim (so it's on the docomo network). It works fine as it has the main docomo LTE band (band 1). The only problem is there are a few signal blackspots where it would be better with the so-called "platinum band" (I forget which band, but it is one my phone doesn't have).
I think I will try it out. I spend a most of my time in Tokyo and only some time in Kyoto and Nagano.
I made a spreadsheet of the carriers and different phone variants. The only LTE bands the Japanese variant has that the WW version does not are:
Docomo uses band 19
Softbank uses band 8
But the rest overlap.
For 3G W-CDMA both phones have 2100 so it should work fine.
Thanks for your input
Yeah, it has 3G 2100 but not 800, so 3G can also be a bit patchy. Not having LTE 19 is mostly only a problem inside big concrete buildings. On docomo LTE Band 1 2100 is the main band so mostly you'll be fine. Highly recommend OCN Mobile One as a carrier - dirt cheap, really flexible, solid service (NTT group, so seems like docomo don't screw them over).
Found much conflicting info on HSPA band support for the US unlocked/developer model.
htc.com says it supports 3G UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz. But is also says it supports 4G LTE: FDD: Bands 1,3,5,7,8,20,28, which is COMPLETELY wrong so i don't know if to trust htc.com.
Can anyone confirm the UMTS band support for this device? I am most interested in 900mhz UMTS because of trips to New Zealand where 900 mhz UMTS is often used.
Thanks!
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urushiol said:
Found much conflicting info on HSPA band support for the US unlocked/developer model.
htc.com says it supports 3G UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz. But is also says it supports 4G LTE: FDD: Bands 1,3,5,7,8,20,28, which is COMPLETELY wrong so i don't know if to trust htc.com.
Can anyone confirm the UMTS band support for this device? I am most interested in 900mhz UMTS because of trips to New Zealand where 900 mhz UMTS is often used.
Thanks!
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Really dont know about it, but as far as i know you can flash radio bands anyways, so look for it on the web or this site, i use dev with no prblems at all in mexico with LTE. =D
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LLegion said:
Really dont know about it, but as far as i know you can flash radio bands anyways, so look for it on the web or this site, i use dev with no prblems at all in mexico with LTE. =D
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Is that really true?
I am looking into getting the HTC One M9 through AT&T but may switch to T-Mobile in the future.
As such I want a phone that fully supports both networks ...
I found a thread that it is supposedly possible to flash the AT&T phone to support developer ROMs but I can't find any information whether it is possible to also change band support. According to GSM Arena the AT&T version of the phone also supports LTE band 4 and 12 (needed for T-Mobile) but it doesn't support VoLTE on band 12, nor does it have 3G AWS (1700/2100), though of course there is a T-Mobile version of the phone WITH support for all of those.
Can I simply flash my phone so that I can (a) use CM13/AOSP roms and (b) so that the radio uses the proper AT&T or T-Mobile bands and tech?
andTab said:
Is that really true?
I am looking into getting the HTC One M9 through AT&T but may switch to T-Mobile in the future.
As such I want a phone that fully supports both networks ...
I found a thread that it is supposedly possible to flash the AT&T phone to support developer ROMs but I can't find any information whether it is possible to also change band support. According to GSM Arena the AT&T version of the phone also supports LTE band 4 and 12 (needed for T-Mobile) but it doesn't support VoLTE on band 12, nor does it have 3G AWS (1700/2100), though of course there is a T-Mobile version of the phone WITH support for all of those.
Can I simply flash my phone so that I can (a) use CM13/AOSP roms and (b) so that the radio uses the proper AT&T or T-Mobile bands and tech?
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WELL I DONT BELIVE cm13/AOSP WOULD BE BEST OPTION I FLASHED DVEELOPER 2.11 AND OVER IT VIPERONE 3.5.0 (WWE BASE 2.10) ANS WORKS FINE, AFAIK.... TELCEL BANDS (MEXICO) ARE FULLY COMPATIBLE AND PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS ATT, ACTUALLY I FOLLOWED IN THE HTC M9 THREAD HOW TO CHANGE MY PHONE (ATT) TO DEVELOPER EVEN WHEN I HAVE TELCEL AND IT WORKED!!! =D YOU SHOULD HAVE NO ISSUE.
LLegion said:
WELL I DONT BELIVE cm13/AOSP WOULD BE BEST OPTION I FLASHED DVEELOPER 2.11 AND OVER IT VIPERONE 3.5.0 (WWE BASE 2.10) ANS WORKS FINE, AFAIK.... TELCEL BANDS (MEXICO) ARE FULLY COMPATIBLE AND PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS ATT, ACTUALLY I FOLLOWED IN THE HTC M9 THREAD HOW TO CHANGE MY PHONE (ATT) TO DEVELOPER EVEN WHEN I HAVE TELCEL AND IT WORKED!!! =D YOU SHOULD HAVE NO ISSUE.
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What I am asking is very different: AT&T and T-Mobile DO NOT use the same bands (e.g. AWS for T-Mobile) nor the same tech (VoLTE on band 12)
OHH I SEE SORRY, WELL WHATEVER, YOU CAN FLASH RADIO BANDS AS WELL AND SUPPORT OTHER CARRIERS, JUST read here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/recovery-flashable-radio-zip-t3122983
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andTab said:
What I am asking is very different: AT&T and T-Mobile DO NOT use the same bands (e.g. AWS for T-Mobile) nor the same tech (VoLTE on band 12)
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and also check it on here... https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=32827
andTab said:
What I am asking is very different: AT&T and T-Mobile DO NOT use the same bands (e.g. AWS for T-Mobile) nor the same tech (VoLTE on band 12)
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andTab said:
What I am asking is very different: AT&T and T-Mobile DO NOT use the same bands (e.g. AWS for T-Mobile) nor the same tech (VoLTE on band 12)
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and also check it on here... https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=32827
All this info is about LTE bands. I am curious about HSPA/UMTS bands. I would like to know what it supports out of the box, not what I can with mods.
Thanks!
urushiol said:
All this info is about LTE bands. I am curious about HSPA/UMTS bands. I would like to know what it supports out of the box, not what I can with mods.
Thanks!
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-6891.php
Google is your friend.
And in case you didn't notice: I was asking about AWS and VoLTE since LTE bands are the same.
urushiol said:
All this info is about LTE bands. I am curious about HSPA/UMTS bands. I would like to know what it supports out of the box, not what I can with mods.
Thanks!
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The T-mobile version of the M9 supports the most bands. The AT&T and Developer Edition are identical and are missing some bands needed for t-mobile LTE (Volte) support in some areas. Flashing different radios will not enable bands the phone does not have. Theirs more information in the T-mobile M9 forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-change-network-bands-gsm-devices-t3135401
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...-1-32-617-30-dev-edition-rom-tmobile-t3078315
andTab said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-6891.php
Google is your friend.
And in case you didn't notice: I was asking about AWS and VoLTE since LTE bands are the same.
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Thanks for the reply. I have checked GSM arena, plus anything else I could find on google. I don't see a listing for the unlocked/developer edition on this page. I see EMEA, Verizon, ATT and T-mobile.
And yes, sorry, I didn't realized there was an AWS for HSPA, i was just thinking about band 4 LTE on ATT which I think is AWS.
clsA said:
The T-mobile version of the M9 supports the most bands. The AT&T and Developer Edition are identical and are missing some bands needed for t-mobile LTE (Volte) support in some areas. Flashing different radios will not enable bands the phone does not have. Theirs more information in the T-mobile M9 forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-change-network-bands-gsm-devices-t3135401
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...-1-32-617-30-dev-edition-rom-tmobile-t3078315
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Thank you.
That's what I figured.
Sadly that means I won't get this phone.
Bump. Hoping someone can find a straight answer have been on the phone twice with HTC, even they can't provide a straight answer. I ever addressed them on twitter. No luck. Thanks in advance.
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urushiol said:
Found much conflicting info on HSPA band support for the US unlocked/developer model.
htc.com says it supports 3G UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz. But is also says it supports 4G LTE: FDD: Bands 1,3,5,7,8,20,28, which is COMPLETELY wrong so i don't know if to trust htc.com.
Can anyone confirm the UMTS band support for this device? I am most interested in 900mhz UMTS because of trips to New Zealand where 900 mhz UMTS is often used.
Thanks!
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It's pretty difficult to find out info on band support, and I have no idea why. It should be readily available...
Anyway, have a look at this: http://wireless.fcc.gov/hac_documents/150813/9135276_21.PDF
Based on that, there are four models sold in the U.S., which are:
0PJA100 (which appears to be the AT&T version)
0PJA120 (which appears to be the TMO USA version)
0PJA200 (which appears to be the Sprint version)
0PJA300 (which appears to be the Verizon version)
The AT&T model supports the following: UMTS 850MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz.
Now, that said, if you look on AT&T's site, they list their model as 0PJA110, so obviously either the FCC site is wrong or the AT&T site is wrong.
I happen to have the 0PJA110 model, which is also the Rogers model (so it would make sense that the AT&T version is 0PJA110 because Rogers and AT&T generally have the same devices, and their networks are generally the same frequencies). Based on HTC Canada's site, the Rogers model supports UMTS 850MHz, 1700MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz.
Now, for the assumption: From what I have read (but I haven't personally confirmed), the unlocked and developer models are the same as the AT&T model. If that is indeed the case, then you have your answer: No UMTS 900MHz support the unlocked and/or developer models (in fact, not UMTS support on any U.S. model).
efrant said:
Anyway, have a look at this: http://wireless.fcc.gov/hac_documents/150813/9135276_21.PDF
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I know this is a delayed followup, but I wanted to say thanks for this. I finally got HTC to confirm that UMTS 850MHz, 1700MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz are the official specs for the US unlocked edition(which, oddly, is marked 0PJA110 on the back).
I am pushing them for a refund for false advertising. I was so concerned that these specs could be wrong before I purchased the phone, that I did a chat with HTC and they assured me the correct specs were UMTS 850MHz, 900MHz, 1700MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz. Once they confirmed these specs for me, I purchased the phone. Now they confirm they told me wrong. Very frustrating experience.
I am waiting to hear back about getting a refund. I am hoping the come through, this is crazy.
Just curious because in all my excitement I failed to realize that the Oneplus 3 does not support Verizons band 13 I have the North American version BTW
i join in!
bought the phone while on vacation in the US. where i live, LTE mainly uses band 3 (1800) which is not supported by the US version.
only thought about it after i was home
eladrichi said:
i join in!
bought the phone while on vacation in the US. where i live, LTE mainly uses band 3 (1800) which is not supported by the US version.
only thought about it after i was home
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Both the North American variant and the China variant share model number A3000, there's a high chance those two variants are the same piece of hardware. The China model is said to support LTE band 3.
You could try this out to enable all hardware supported bands. Please let us know the result.
The guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
alexander宇 said:
Both the North American variant and the China variant share model number A3000, there's a high chance those two variants are the same piece of hardware. The China model is said to support LTE band 3.
You could try this out to enable all hardware supported bands. Please let us know the result.
The guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
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Enabling bands on the OnePlus line of devices requires a patch to the NVRAM, one of which hasn't been made for the OP3 (and older patches cause bootloops). When enabling bands, the NVRAM resets on boot, reverting all changes. I've done some research and testing, and it seems that missing bands aren't the problem. It's provisioning. The OP3 fully supports most of the bands Verizon uses, but doesn't know how to switch between LTE and CDMA. You can force LTE with a few build.prop edits and changing some cellular settings, and it works blazingly fast - but, you can ONLY use LTE and nothing else. I'm still doing some more work, but a few people that know more about RIL than me have said they will begin looking for a solution around October. For now, just enable data roaming (which isn't actually roaming if you're in the US) and use 3G. I'm confident that we can get it working eventually.
Band 13 isn't some magical necessary band, it's just the first and therefore most common band. Yet my area doesn't even use it.
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Also, I am unable to get a 4G lock on Oxygen, only on CM based ROMs.
camcorder123 said:
Enabling bands on the OnePlus line of devices requires a patch to the NVRAM, one of which hasn't been made for the OP3 (and older patches cause bootloops). When enabling bands, the NVRAM resets on boot, reverting all changes. I've done some research and testing, and it seems that missing bands aren't the problem. It's provisioning. The OP3 fully supports most of the bands Verizon uses, but doesn't know how to switch between LTE and CDMA. You can force LTE with a few build.prop edits and changing some cellular settings, and it works blazingly fast - but, you can ONLY use LTE and nothing else. I'm still doing some more work, but a few people that know more about RIL than me have said they will begin looking for a solution around October. For now, just enable data roaming (which isn't actually roaming if you're in the US) and use 3G. I'm confident that we can get it working eventually.
Band 13 isn't some magical necessary band, it's just the first and therefore most common band. Yet my area doesn't even use it.
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Also, I am unable to get a 4G lock on Oxygen, only on CM based ROMs.
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thanks for the reply.
i am actually currently living in Israel (so Verizon are quite far away )
the local networks all have LTE on band 3 (1800) which is not supported on my OP3.
i did manage to get 3g without doing anything, and following your bootloop comment, i will probably wait until October for someone with the know-how to generate a stable working solution.
thanks anyway!
BTW, while i was in the US (Oregon) i used T-Mobile and got LTE all day long with default settings on the same OP3 device.
eladrichi said:
thanks for the reply.
i am actually currently living in Israel (so Verizon are quite far away )
the local networks all have LTE on band 3 (1800) which is not supported on my OP3.
i did manage to get 3g without doing anything, and following your bootloop comment, i will probably wait until October for someone with the know-how to generate a stable working solution.
thanks anyway!
BTW, while i was in the US (Oregon) i used T-Mobile and got LTE all day long with default settings on the same OP3 device.
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Well, mine is China version and I mainly live in the US now. It would be a great deal if we exchanged our phones.
Anyway, I feel HSPA+ is fast enough for me, at least better than my wifi at home.
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Enabling bands on the OnePlus line of devices requires a patch to the NVRAM, one of which hasn't been made for the OP3 (and older patches cause bootloops). When enabling bands, the NVRAM resets on boot, reverting all changes. I've done some research and testing, and it seems that missing bands aren't the problem. It's provisioning. The OP3 fully supports most of the bands Verizon uses, but doesn't know how to switch between LTE and CDMA. You can force LTE with a few build.prop edits and changing some cellular settings, and it works blazingly fast - but, you can ONLY use LTE and nothing else. I'm still doing some more work, but a few people that know more about RIL than me have said they will begin looking for a solution around October. For now, just enable data roaming (which isn't actually roaming if you're in the US) and use 3G. I'm confident that we can get it working eventually.
Band 13 isn't some magical necessary band, it's just the first and therefore most common band. Yet my area doesn't even use it.
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Also, I am unable to get a 4G lock on Oxygen, only on CM based ROMs.
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That I had no idea, Thanks for the information.
In fact the only band I need(more like Wind Mobile Canada need) is UMTS band 4, Wind does not have a LTE network yet.
I'm just trying to figure out if the China model supports UMTS band 4. If it does I could simply buy one here in China and bring it to Canada instead of spending 100 CAD more for the Canadian North American model.
Oops. Not used to having an international phone, forgot that not everybody is on Verizon . Anyways. Until someone can make an NVRAM patch, the only thing that might help are some build.prop edits. I'm actually currently searching for them, I'll post them when I find them.
So volte works fine for me but on LTE Discovery I only see my OnePlus 3 connecting to Band 4 and getting mediocre reception, and I'm pretty confident where I live there is band 12 (central Austin, Texas)
Anyone having a similar issue?
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Oops. Not used to having an international phone, forgot that not everybody is on Verizon . Anyways. Until someone can make an NVRAM patch, the only thing that might help are some build.prop edits. I'm actually currently searching for them, I'll post them when I find them.
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will editing the build.prop open up the locked LTE bands? or will it just allow me to force LTE on the currently available LTE bands for my device region?
more specifically, will this enable LTE band 3 even though the OP3 is the US version?
if so, i am willing to play along and if i get good LTE coverage at home and work, i don't mind it being LTE only.
I'm join too to the questions, like to take a part of this too, there is any news? Thanks
Also interested.. have only band 3 coverage and bought the OP3 in the US..
Thanks
As I see it now, I talk with few people and they all said that it can't be done
Yeah interested in knowing this as well since I can only really get the US version easily to New Zealand.
My provider only supports:
LTE (band 3) 1800 MHz
LTE (band 28) 700 MHz
RIP :/
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will editing the build.prop open up the locked LTE bands? or will it just allow me to force LTE on the currently available LTE bands for my device region?
more specifically, will this enable LTE band 3 even though the OP3 is the US version?
if so, i am willing to play along and if i get good LTE coverage at home and work, i don't mind it being LTE only.
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It won't enable bands. Can't. It WILL force a connection to LTE on any supported bands in your area, though. I'm so sorry, but I'm currently in the process of finding the build.prop edits I mentioned, I had them on a thread on a different account that appears to have been deleted. The second I find them I'll post them.
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So I'm having a hard time getting edits to actually work. I was on CM13 at the time and I'm currently on RR, but it might just be my location (on vacation). But for those who wanna try, here are the edits:
lteOnCdmaDevice=1
to.telephony.default_network=11
There were a few more concerning GSM and CDMA operator numbers, but those seem to have no effect. You might also have to fiddle around in the cellular data settings and change from Global to LTE.
One thing is for sure - these won't work on Oxygen OS. I can't get a lock on 4G on Oxygen no matter how hard I try.
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It won't enable bands. Can't. It WILL force a connection to LTE on any supported bands in your area, though. I'm so sorry, but I'm currently in the process of finding the build.prop edits I mentioned, I had them on a thread on a different account that appears to have been deleted. The second I find them I'll post them.
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So I'm having a hard time getting edits to actually work. I was on CM13 at the time and I'm currently on RR, but it might just be my location (on vacation). But for those who wanna try, here are the edits:
lteOnCdmaDevice=1
to.telephony.default_network=11
There were a few more concerning GSM and CDMA operator numbers, but those seem to have no effect. You might also have to fiddle around in the cellular data settings and change from Global to LTE.
One thing is for sure - these won't work on Oxygen OS. I can't get a lock on 4G on Oxygen no matter how hard I try.
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thanks for your effort!
but that doesn't solve the issue, as the problem is not with connecting to LTE network but the LTE network being on an unsupported band.
forcing LTE will only leave my phone with no signal at all...
is there any way, instead of enabling locked bands, to change the region of the phone?
meaning, i don't mind losing the US bands if i can gain the EU bands.
so is there a way to completely change a OP3 from US version to EU version? so that no band unlocking needs to take place?
Joining the request. I have the same problem: missing band 3 on the US version.
Joining the request as well. I have de A3000 Chinese version and I need to enable Band 4 for Latin America
Joining the request, too. my country is covered by bands 3.
A3000
Yeah well I'm joining in.
Whoever makes a working NV/rmt/whatever patch for 64bit devices get a cookie from me. Or at least, find another way to prevent the device from resetting the NV edits we make. I got the North American OnePlus 3 and it's the one that doesn't support Band 3 (1800MHz) which my country's 4G connection runs at.
Rebooting resets whatever NV edits we make and even on CM it does that as well. I wouldn't mind staying on HSPAP but in a couple of years that might be just obsolete.
To any developer that's interested in doing this, I'm your guinea pig, just PM me and I can test anything for you.
Hi guys, so after a bit of research I found that you can add/enable bands on the OP1 as shown here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-unlock-aditional-bands-qualcomm-t2877031
and Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56577252&postcount=455
My question is can I add LTE band 3 to my OP3 A3000?
Mine currently supports:
North America model(A3000)
FDD-LTE: Bands 1/2/4/5/7/12/17/30
The other models support:
Europe / Asia model
FDD-LTE: Bands 1/3/5/7/8/20
TDD-LTE: Bands 38/40
China model
FDD-LTE : Bands 1/3/7
TDD-LTE: Bands 38/39/40/41
If anyone has done this or attempted to do this please let me know
Looking for the same information.
Also been searching for this. Found another thread which says hopefully in the next month or two it will be looked into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/help/unlocking-lte-bands-t3425871
Could this even be possible? Aren't bands hardware dependant?
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Could this even be possible? Aren't bands hardware dependant?
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Its possible to add bands in Qualcomm devices .. i added h+ band in my Xiaomi mi note 1year ago. (Snapdragon 801) ... Somewhere in xda exist a tutorial to add bands in xiaomi mi note pro. Try the steps in oneplus ... But make sure you nandroid backup and EFS backup.
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Could this even be possible? Aren't bands hardware dependant?
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This is what I'd assume as well, but it looks like some have been successful in the past with Oneplus devices. Especially since Oneplus' response to the band omissions seemed a bit vague IMO.
Any updates?
I have a A3000 US model (Does not support LTE band 3)
AND NOW
I have just got a A3000 HK model (For my dad) (support's LTE band 3)
and the "about phone" part is identical apart from the baseband version.
Is there any way to tell them apart. And does this mean I can somehow unlock LTE band 3 on my US version of the OP3?
If there was someway to backup the basband and restore it on on my US OP3 that would also be great!
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I have just got a A3000 HK model (For my dad) (support's LTE band 3)
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The HK model is A3003 so you actually have a China model.
bulletmark said:
The HK model is A3003 so you actually have a China model.
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Opps, either way, it still has LTE band 3 which I need on my US version
Any news on adding bands to the OP3?
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Any news on adding bands to the OP3?
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AFAIK there isn't yet a way, but I would suggest to follow the most active thread on the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/help/unlocking-lte-bands-t3425871/page6
Hopefully something will come up..
Can this work on all carriers? Whether in North America or over seeas?
I've got OP3T A3000, tried multiple files and instructions to unlock LTE band 3 on it, no luck so far. Downgraded to Nougat, Oreo, different zip files, qcn files, hex editing stuff, most of these process went error free with still no band 3.