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[Q] New to FTV. Need some info.

Hi Everyone,
A friend of mine was telling about the FTV and I thought I'd look into it. I currently have an ATV2 with XBMC installed. For the most part it works pretty good. Icefilms is hit and miss, but I don't use it very often. ATV2 is kinda getting slow and after reading about the FTV I want one. I was wondering if someone can sort me out.
First,
If I buy a unit from Amazon can it still be rooted? I heard there was a software update in June and wondering if it's been locked up like Apple does with their stuff?
Second,
I use a Harmony One remote and heard Flirc works with the Harmony Remote. Can anyone confirm this?
Third,
That same friend who told me bought the FTV said he watched a youtube video on the FTV with XBMC installed on it and said it ran really slow. Now the video was from April, so I'm hoping XBMC has made some big improvements so it works well with FTV.
Thanks,
Chevy

Yes
If you get a FireTV you will need to use URL blocking in your router to block the amazon URLs for updates before connecting the FireTV to your network. Then you will be able to use GeoHot's Towelroot to root it and disable the Amazon updater. You will want to look into SPMC (a modified version of XBMC with special patches for Android devices, etc.)
It general it is much better than ATV2......FLIRC works with Harmony remotes although I haven't got around to setting mine up yet.
All the necessary info is here on the forum. Just read through some of the the threads.

Since I don't wanna make a whole topic,here is something that makes Fire TV chug a little.
Try this expirimental WebGL thingy in Chrome for Android on Fire TV.
http://www.chromeexperiments.com/detail/eye-texture-raytracer/
It even makes my mouse controls lag a bit,but otherwise does a nice job considering how extreme the test is.
Edit:More things to look at on a Fire TV using Chrome or Opera browser.
http://www.threejs.org/

Thanks all. I'm going to get one. One question though, I was looking on eBay and found a bunch that were already rooted and had xbmc or spmc already installed. In the description they were saying "get them while you can as the new version is unrootable". Anyone think it's OK to buy from eBay or just go with Amazon?
Thanks,
Chevy

chevy2410 said:
Thanks all. I'm going to get one. One question though, I was looking on eBay and found a bunch that were already rooted and had xbmc or spmc already installed. In the description they were saying "get them while you can as the new version is unrootable". Anyone think it's OK to buy from eBay or just go with Amazon?
Thanks,
Chevy
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Is it cheaper/more expensive? Definitely get it from amazon. That way it is fully warrantied under your name if you have any problems they will help you. I got mine from Best Buy and it had the firmware 51.1.1.0_user_511069920.. It downloaded the next update automatically which is 51.1.1.0_user_511070220 (the last rootable firmware). I even clicked "check for updates" and it never pushed the un-rootable version.
I think they sent out a limited roll out of the unrootable firmware since the according to amazon this is the same version I have.
sorry cant post the link since im a new user search google for "amazon fire tv firmware" should be the first link
I would recommend to block the updates either on the router by blocking the amazon domains or using adb and disabling the apk which updates the ftv

chevy2410 said:
Thanks all. I'm going to get one. One question though, I was looking on eBay and found a bunch that were already rooted and had xbmc or spmc already installed. In the description they were saying "get them while you can as the new version is unrootable". Anyone think it's OK to buy from eBay or just go with Amazon?
Thanks,
Chevy
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Was in the same boat as you couple of weeks ago, had a ATV2 got a FTV for someone else and realized how much faster and better it was so I sold my ATV for $250, and bought a FTV for myself. On top of that I bought 2 more to install xbmc and sell
Anyways, the FTV runs wicked fast with XBMC, not sure what you saw but there is a pretty good video here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G23u1TtluE
I'd say just buy one from amazon, too bad they were just on sale for $84 a few days ago and staples even had them down as low as $65 after some coupon.
The rooting is simple and fast and to disable the updates is just 1 command you type in. I wouldn't pay more for a unit that's already rooted unless I didn't know wtf I was doing.

I would recommend to block the updates either on the router by blocking the amazon domains or using adb and disabling the apk which updates the ftv
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Do you know what the URL is for blocking the updates?
The rooting is simple and fast and to disable the updates is just 1 command you type in. I wouldn't pay more for a unit that's already rooted unless I didn't know wtf I was doing.
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I'm pretty handy at rooting and so forth. I've rooted my wife and myself android phones over the last few years so this should be pretty straight forward. I think I'll just get it through Amazon, just in case I need warranty or something.
Thanks,
Chevy

chevy2410 said:
Do you know what the URL is for blocking the updates?
I'm pretty handy at rooting and so forth. I've rooted my wife and myself android phones over the last few years so this should be pretty straight forward. I think I'll just get it through Amazon, just in case I need warranty or something.
Thanks,
Chevy
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There are instructions here, http://www.aftvnews.com/ for taking a new box and installing without getting updates and then blocking updates.

Thanks to everyone for all the info. I bought one from Amazon and should have it on Tuesday.
Chevy

Anyone still getting rooted units?

I had pretty much given up hope that i'd find anymore rooted units about a month ago until today when I walked into a store and bought 3. Is there still a supply of these rootable fire tv's?

danknasty said:
I had pretty much given up hope that i'd find anymore rooted units about a month ago until today when I walked into a store and bought 3. Is there still a supply of these rootable fire tv's?
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you could get them on ebay. the key is to ask what is the serial. Its hard but a few give the serial and with that you can find out if its rootable. Did you find a few or are you still looking for it. If you did buy three. would you sell any one of them for the community?

Picked up one at staples from 7/14 so I can root it. Tech guy was nice enough to find one for me after bringing out a few from 3/15 so they're still out there. just have to sort through there inventory.

killerb777 said:
Picked up one at staples from 7/14 so I can root it. Tech guy was nice enough to find one for me after bringing out a few from 3/15 so they're still out there. just have to sort through there inventory.
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After making this post I have received 3 more rooted units in the mail today from staples. I am beginning to wonder if they stopped making these...

I've actually picked up 7 in the last 3 weeks all at staples....they still keep getting them in.
Most of them are 51.1.0.1 even...I think it'll still be a while you can easily pick these up. I have literally put forth no more than 5% effort in finding these

arunningpir8 said:
I've actually picked up 7 in the last 3 weeks all at staples....they still keep getting them in.
Most of them are 51.1.0.1 even...I think it'll still be a while you can easily pick these up. I have literally put forth no more than 5% effort in finding these
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I actually ordered like four a week ago and they were all unrootable so I basically gave up hope at that point but now seems like they are back.

danknasty said:
I actually ordered like four a week ago and they were all unrootable so I basically gave up hope at that point but now seems like they are back.
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There's your problem...you need to actually pick yourself up and walk into a store to get them
Seriously, what "normal" people think of going to a staples to buy something like a fire tv? That's why there are so many rootable units on the shelves there

arunningpir8 said:
There's your problem...you need to actually pick yourself up and walk into a store to get them
Seriously, what "normal" people think of going to a staples to buy something like a fire tv? That's why there are so many rootable units on the shelves there
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Actually I've honestly had better luck ordering from staples than going into one. The one time I did the manager actually told me without me asking these were not the rootable ones. Lol mabye it's just where I live.

Must be lol, although I've picked them up all over "congested" areas in Indiana ( I drive a lot for work ).
:shrug: who knows with these things i guess

I have a rooted unot and considering to update to the newest firware. Any benefits to keep it rooted? All I do is xbmc and amazon prime videos.

esxps said:
I have a rooted unot and considering to update to the newest firware. Any benefits to keep it rooted? All I do is xbmc and amazon prime videos.
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I like the ability of having a custom rom that is around the corner. The absolute imperative for me is SNES EMU and the Sega Masger System EMU that are charged on google play. and the Quicksupport teamviewer that only works on root for desktop sharing. I can always debug/tweak and help my friends/parents fix their firetv's. Rooted for me is very important.

Sucks living in Australia..
I wanna get another rootable Fire TV for my dad but I can only order online so my chances are slim.
I need a friend living in the States.

DN38416 said:
Sucks living in Australia..
I wanna get another rootable Fire TV for my dad but I can only order online so my chances are slim.
I need a friend living in the States.
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If you pay for shipping. I can help you. I'm in Los Angeles. Send me a PM. There is a seller on ebay that may have rooted ones brand new but I suggest you message the person directly. I've purchased one for myself and once it arrives I can confirm what version it is. If you need I can stop by at bestbuy to see if they have rootable ones but chances are slim. just trying to help out.
*** REMOVED LINK BY ME AS THE UNIT THEY SELL IS NOT ROOT ABLE ***
Reply from NPS/Ebay seller.
Hi,
Thank you for your interest in this item. The batch number is 305.
Sincerely,
Barbara
The NPS Store eBay Sales Dept.

here is all the amazon fire tv ROOTED.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazon-Fire-Tv-Digital-HD-Media-Streamer-CAN-BE-ROOTED-INSTALL-XBMC-SEALED-NEW-/141554629836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f5503ccc

_u2pop_ said:
here is all the amazon fire tv ROOTED.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazon-Fire-Tv-Digital-HD-Media-Streamer-CAN-BE-ROOTED-INSTALL-XBMC-SEALED-NEW-/141554629836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f5503ccc
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It's a tad expensive, but I suggest buying them from the seller auction_discount. I've bought two of them, and he did a great job rooting them. He sets up XBMC, Stick Mount, Busybox, and other essential apps.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121570606665

shutterslaps said:
It's a tad expensive, but I suggest buying them from the seller auction_discount. I've bought two of them, and he did a great job rooting them. He sets up XBMC, Stick Mount, Busybox, and other essential apps.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121570606665
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Id rather pay slightly more to get a rootable sealed one vs someone else doing it for me. I just got one from the person in the link above.
The earlier link that I had purchased was a bad one as it seems someone had updated the firmware and repackaged it. The box came opened with plastic.

navigates said:
Id rather pay slightly more to get a rootable sealed one vs someone else doing it for me. I just got one from the person in the link above.
The earlier link that I had purchased was a bad one as it seems someone had updated the firmware and repackaged it. The box came opened with plastic.
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ah, I agree. I'd rather have one that was rootable as well. I made the mistake of ordering one off of amazon, and it the software was way too new. I returned it and set out for another AFTV. I don't why I didn't pick up a rootable one instead of one that was already rooted.
Yesterday I went into the Navy Exchange on the base I work at, and saw they finally put out AFTV's. I whipped out my phone and checked all of the serial numbers on the ones on the shelf. BOOM! ALL of them were rootable. I picked up three of them right away. I'll probably go back and buy more soon. They all come with 51.1.0.1_user_510055620.

esxps said:
I have a rooted unot and considering to update to the newest firware. Any benefits to keep it rooted? All I do is xbmc and amazon prime videos.
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I'm in the same boat right now. It seems like the new updates are providing much of the same experience that rooted boxes originally had. Besides sixaxis and rbox's xposed module, I really don't utilize any of the advantages of a rooted unit over a stock one..
I'd just hate to kill a rooted box. It'd be like shooting a black rhino.

spyder3 said:
I'm in the same boat right now. It seems like the new updates are providing much of the same experience that rooted boxes originally had. Besides sixaxis and rbox's xposed module, I really don't utilize any of the advantages of a rooted unit over a stock one..
I'd just hate to kill a rooted box. It'd be like shooting a black rhino.
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I thought rbox released the latest firmware pre-rooted?

spyder3 said:
I'm in the same boat right now. It seems like the new updates are providing much of the same experience that rooted boxes originally had. Besides sixaxis and rbox's xposed module, I really don't utilize any of the advantages of a rooted unit over a stock one..
I'd just hate to kill a rooted box. It'd be like shooting a black rhino.
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There are fundamental benefits to rooting and rBox has the latest one rooted. Its really simple to keep up with the rooted versions specially when you have the boot menu with recovery installed. For starters the latest version still does not allow ntfs mounts on usb. Then again remote quick support needs root for screen sharing remote as that is imperative if you build boxes for family and friends and if they need any software help.
I always land up helping my parents remotely. I have two sessions connected through teamviewer. one to the firetv and one on the pc and I'm golden. All tweaks updates and fixes work perfectly. except rom/firmware updates.

Now listed on Amazon

Engadget just posted this:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/28/huawei-watch-pricing-and-date/
and the Huawei watch is now listed on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Watch-Plated-Stainless-Warranty/dp/B013LKLIIS
Must admit I'm veering toward this now rather than the Moto 360 2, as it seems to still have the 'flat tire' look.

Kinsman-UK said:
Engadget just posted this:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/28/huawei-watch-pricing-and-date/
and the Huawei watch is now listed on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Watch-Plated-Stainless-Warranty/dp/B013LKLIIS
Must admit I'm veering toward this now rather than the Moto 360 2, as it seems to still have the 'flat tire' look.
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Yeah after knowing they kept the flat tire the huawei watch was an easy sell for me. Just preordered the silver version myself, very excited!

Look forward to hearing your impressions once you've had it for a while

Now removed off Amazon. Lol.
However Mobile Fun in the UK has them listed as in Stock. Priced from £300.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/huawei-watch-for-android-smartphones-gold-p52239.htm

Zammo76 said:
Now removed off Amazon. Lol.
However Mobile Fun in the UK has them listed as in Stock. Priced from £300.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/huawei-watch-for-android-smartphones-gold-p52239.htm
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Looks like amazon got a little trigger happy with their listing, was probably supposed to wait till later this week when they officially announce it.
Amazon however assured me it was still on schedule to be delivered by 9/4 so look for the page to go back up soon!

I'd have personally hung on for the reviews, that 300mAh battery concerns me.

Zammo76 said:
I'd have personally hung on for the reviews, that 300mAh battery concerns me.
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Someone did an AMA on reddit that was testing one and in 24 hours from a full charge it was still at 33% when he had to return it. That was enough for me considering most of the current gen watches can barely go 12 hours.

myke66 said:
Amazon however assured me it was still on schedule to be delivered by 9/4 so look for the page to go back up soon!
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So why does it say now to be available by 9/17?

Cr4z33 said:
So why does it say now to be available by 9/17?
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Orders placed last week still show a delivery of 9/4, the new listings that went up today after the announcement are showing a different preorder date of 9/17 instead of the previous 9/2 the previous listing showed. This here is showing all the places you can buy at the moment (seems to be getting updated frequently)

I just ordered it from Amazon as well, $349. I went with this over the Moto 360 2 mainly because of the flat tire thing. I hated it on the Moto 360 1 and thought for sure they would remove that for the new one. With prime shipping I get it on the 18th....

All buying options currently available for US

I hope it does ship this time around. I think the release date on this watch has changed several times which usually isn't a good thing...

falcon26 said:
I hope it does ship this time around. I think the release date on this watch has changed several times which usually isn't a good thing...
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Lol indeed!
I remember the time with the European Amazon release of the Moto 360.
It kept delaying and delaying.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE+

Amazon appears to be out of stock on the watch now for pre order

Looks like you can get one day shipping except for the leather band version.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Searching for anyone with Shield TV gen2(16GB) for firmware port

Hey, could anyone upload a twrp backup from the new model so i can try to port it to my first gen shield tv?
shouldn't be so hard because serial console is available on the gen1

Really... Why?! Can't you just chill out till Monday when the Shield Slim is set to officially release with both Updates, and official Factory Recovery ROMs?

No "port" is required, 16gb is 16gb & 500gb is 500gb nothing is different as far as "gen 1" & "gen 2" software is concerned because there is no "gen 1 & 2" it's a simple refresh like Sony & Microsoft do for their gaming consoles

techjunky90 said:
No "port" is required, 16gb is 16gb & 500gb is 500gb nothing is different as far as "gen 1" & "gen 2" software is concerned because there is no "gen 1 & 2" it's a simple refresh like Sony & Microsoft do for their gaming consoles
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Thus why I run it the 'Slim' the onlything new 'bout it is the removed features... (i.e. the IR Port, MicroSD Slot, and WiFi Direct).
That said, the Shield (Slim) *cough* 2, will officially go on sale on Monday. At which time nVIDIA is rumored to release the Updates for both the new, and current line of Shield TVs. So just be patient, Monday is only another Three Days from now.

Just a friendly fyi: some pre-orders have already been shipped out, mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow, and that was standard shipping speed

Also the nougat update at the moment is strictly for shield slim

el7145 said:
Just a friendly fyi: some pre-orders have already been shipped out, mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow, and that was standard shipping speed
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who'd you buy it form? AMZN?

Laos101 said:
who'd you buy it form? AMZN?
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Newegg

el7145 said:
Newegg
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dang. I took AMZN's delivery day shipping as i only pulled the trigger last night. i should have thought of newegg or b&H in hindsight

el7145 said:
Just a friendly fyi: some pre-orders have already been shipped out, mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow, and that was standard shipping speed
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Again just a friendly FYI The Update for everyone else will land on Monday the 16th of January 2016....

Newegg shipped mine on the 12th, it landed on my door step 11am the next day

I got mine at a Best Buy retail store this morning

ok, but today nvidia is rolling out 5.0 firmare (Nougat 7) to old Shield with all new features...
No porting is needed.

umberto.sulla said:
ok, but today nvidia is rolling out 5.0 firmare (Nougat 7) to old Shield with all new features...
No porting is needed.
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In the words of the poet...
The waiiiiting is harrrrdest parrrrt! :laugh:

Yet again nvidia screws up

Apparently its gonna be a week or so which doesn't make sense seeing as its the same firmware right?

Who knows, a twrp dump from gen 2 would still bei nice

Well in all fairness Today was MLK Day in the US, so outside of Gas Station Attendance, and WalMart Employees most People have the Day off.

Yeah was just reading a bit more on this and not sure if it will work with 16gb model as the new update for 16gb (2017) model, doesn't have micro SD, IR port and other functions.

That doesn't matter, the software would be the same

FireTV 4K Stick purchased yesterday, will I still be able to root?

I ordered the 4K stick with TV remote control as a backup device to my 2nd gen Sloan box (still scared to try and root it by opening the actual box up, hell to the no. If anyone could maybe simplify or point me to a guide other than the one posted by the root OP thread, cuz that still confused me on how to do this without bricking /breaking it I’d appreciate it), but anyway, I noticed after all those Amazon prime deal sales they went out of stock until February 17th. So although it’s purchased and ordered it won’t be here for a few more weeks which makes me worried about which firmware it’ll come in as I’m guessing these new 4K sticks are being freshly made as we speak from the factory and will come with the latest firmware, right? Otherwise how else will they bring more devices to re-stock, I doubt they have older made ones layout around somewhere that they’re shipping in? Lol
I’m so pissed I didn’t order when they had prime deal as these must’ve been sitting in the warehouse for awhile on a lower and probably root-able firmware.
Also if anyone is interested in getting one I believe only the 4K stick at $49.99 will auto apply a $20 discount making it $39.99, works as of 2/10/21

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I ordered the 4K stick with TV remote control
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Nope, I doubt that the stick is vulnerable, amaz. fixed it months ago.
Best is if you return that stick and then go for a vulnerable used/second hand one...