[Q] Does bootloader unlock delete apps needed for OTA? - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

On the HTC One unlocking the bootloader deleted the necessary apps for OTA updates. This was reasonably easy to sort out though. On the M8 is it much the same?

Yep, sure does!
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The calculator and flashlight apps get deleted
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As well as stickers for camera effects...anything in preload folder, gets deleted

Bloody HTC... No nead for that, well will just get those replaced in that case, thanks!

Weird, I still have all those after unlocking the bootloader, rooting, and installing a custom recovery...

I found this thread silly but haven't said anything until now... You should have no problem installing OTA updates so long as you are using the stock rom and stock recovery.

Custom rom replaced them...its definitely does delete the preload folder
enchanter100 said:
Weird, I still have all those after unlocking the bootloader, rooting, and installing a custom recovery...
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queries about flash custom ROM

i am new to flash custom ROM on one V. i wasfine with the original ROM,but now some of the apps are getting very slow to get response, especially the phone, people and messaging. the system software already updated to the latest version, i have tried clean cache as well, is there a custom ROM can solve this problem, or it can be solved without flash a custom ROM?
if flash a custom ROM is a must, anyone can recommend which ROM meet my requirements?
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eve_bluemoon said:
i am new to flash custom ROM on one V. i wasfine with the original ROM,but now some of the apps are getting very slow to get response, especially the phone, people and messaging. the system software already updated to the latest version, i have tried clean cache as well, is there a custom ROM can solve this problem, or it can be solved without flash a custom ROM?
if flash a custom ROM is a must, anyone can recommend which ROM meet my requirements?
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custom roms solve that. Issue only
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eve_bluemoon said:
i am new to flash custom ROM on one V. i wasfine with the original ROM,but now some of the apps are getting very slow to get response, especially the phone, people and messaging. the system software already updated to the latest version, i have tried clean cache as well, is there a custom ROM can solve this problem, or it can be solved without flash a custom ROM?
if flash a custom ROM is a must, anyone can recommend which ROM meet my requirements?
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If you updated the phone, the new radio has a problem with the kernels used by the custom roms that are being released here and the phone would constantly reboot itself when a different kernel/rom is used. You can still unlock your bootloader and root the phone, but you will be stuck with the stock rom/kernel.
You might want to downgrade the radio first by running the official RUU.
After you downgrade the radio, you can then unlock your bootloader and root without having any kernel problems. Something about the updated radio that comes with the OTA update ruins any custom rom/kernel installation.
demoport said:
If you updated the phone, the new radio has a problem with the kernels used by the custom roms that are being released here and the phone would constantly reboot itself when a different kernel/rom is used. You can still unlock your bootloader and root the phone, but you will be stuck with the stock rom/kernel.
You might want to downgrade the radio first by running the official RUU.
After you downgrade the radio, you can then unlock your bootloader and root without having any kernel problems. Something about the updated radio that comes with the OTA update ruins any custom rom/kernel installation.
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Hmm.. this only happen to a CDMA, not GSM and I believe OP has a GSM device.
Sound much more complicated than I think. Is there a thread teach noob how to downgrade radio?
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eve_bluemoon said:
Sound much more complicated than I think. Is there a thread teach noob how to downgrade radio?
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You don't have to worry about downgrading radio... your device is a GSM as most of us in Asia.
I do not how to downgrade. Previously was using Samsung galaxy 3 which is way simpler to flash custom rom without unlock this and that. I am just afraid brick my phone. Anyway I just downloaded an app called contacts + so far it solves my problem like a charm
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eve_bluemoon said:
I do not how to downgrade. Previously was using Samsung galaxy 3 which is way simpler to flash custom rom without unlock this and that. I am just afraid brick my phone. Anyway I just downloaded an app called contacts + so far it solves my problem like a charm
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You don't have to down grade that's what ckpv5 said
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Coming from Samsung I'm confused

I'm waiting to get my m8 in just a moment but I'm a little confused.
On Samsung you got the recovery, kernel and rom, that's about it. But what are the RUU files everybody is talking about? Also I'm a little unsure how to root and what s off enables me to do in practice.
Does the HTC follow the same concept?
I haven't found any popular topics on how to root the device yet.
Any help?
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Shebee said:
I'm waiting to get my m8 in just a moment but I'm a little confused.
On Samsung you got the recovery, kernel and rom, that's about it. But what are the RUU files everybody is talking about? Also I'm a little unsure how to root and what s off enables me to do in practice.
Does the HTC follow the same concept?
I haven't found any popular topics on how to root the device yet.
Any help?
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M8 Bible
Pretty much the same, unlock bootloader at HTC Dev, install custom recovery then install rom. You can use firewater for s off, although this doesnt work for all m8s
exocetdj said:
M8 Bible
Pretty much the same, unlock bootloader at HTC Dev, install custom recovery then install rom. You can use firewater for s off, although this doesnt work for all m8s
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Does unlocking the bootloader void warranty?
I read that s off most likely won't void it.
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Shebee said:
Does unlocking the bootloader void warranty?
I read that s off most likely won't void it.
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you request a unlock token whih HTC will have a record of your request but there is no proof u would have used it to void warranty. most peeps will need to use this for s off anyway unless the temp root method works but i have heard from lots of people that is is not really an issue so u can return to stock 100% and warranty shouldn't be affected
exocetdj said:
you request a unlock token whih HTC will have a record of your request but there is no proof u would have used it to void warranty. most peeps will need to use this for s off anyway unless the temp root method works but i have heard from lots of people that is is not really an issue so u can return to stock 100% and warranty shouldn't be affected
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Thanks, really helpful.
I don't quite understand RUU files though, are they just update packages, much like flashing a rom, what it the difference?
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Shebee said:
Thanks, really helpful.
I don't quite understand RUU files though, are they just update packages, much like flashing a rom, what it the difference?
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RUUs are usually used to return to stock or update stock phones via PC. they flash ROM, kernel, firmware and stock recovery usually. they are rare as rocking horse sh#t now though but there us a thread with stock backups.
Shebee said:
Thanks, really helpful.
I don't quite understand RUU files though, are they just update packages, much like flashing a rom, what it the difference?
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The RUU (ROM Upgrade Utility) is the same as the Samsung firmware files (available on SamMobile) used to go back to 100% stock

[Q] Constantly Reboots

I just got this phone yesterday. I rooted with HTCDev and then I got S-Off with firewater and SuperCID. Ever since I installed Android Revolution 8.1 it reboots constantly. I have wiped cache, did a fresh install even tried to flash CM, but the reboots are still there. I am on 2.xxx.xxx framework and have TWRP recovery. Any help? I think it might be related to memory leaks, but I am not entirely sure.
Did you do a full wipe before install.
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paul chambers said:
Did you do a full wipe before install.
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I always do. No matter the rom I am flashing or where I'm coming from. My OCD doesn't handle dirty flashing at all.
Have you tried to flash img file from your Rom via adb. Did you make a backup ?
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Spencer_Moore said:
I just got this phone yesterday. I rooted with HTCDev and then I got S-Off with firewater and SuperCID. Ever since I installed Android Revolution 8.1 it reboots constantly. I have wiped cache, did a fresh install even tried to flash CM, but the reboots are still there. I am on 2.xxx.xxx framework and have TWRP recovery. Any help? I think it might be related to memory leaks, but I am not entirely sure.
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Are you on Verizon ? I don't know much about HTC One M8 variants but it seems some complication there. Maybe a restore to Verizon ROM/firmware can help you.
Anyway .. here is the Verizon thread if needed : http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8
You mentioned that you installed ARHD 8.1 ROM ... which firmware that you installed ? I know you are not a noob but sometimes people confuse the different of a firmware and a ROM
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Have you tried to flash img file from your Rom via adb. Did you make a backup ?
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No, I would ahve to wait unitl I get home from work to try. It seems easy enough.
ckpv5 said:
Are you on Verizon ? I don't know much about HTC One M8 variants but it seems some complication there. Maybe a restore to Verizon ROM/firmware can help you.
Anyway .. here is the Verizon thread if needed : http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8
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I'm on tmobile. I just reflashed my rom and who knows maybe it was magic. I just dont understand why this happened at all.
Are you back up and running now ?
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paul chambers said:
Are you back up and running now ?
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I'm not entirely sure. I will keep this thread updated, if I have anymore random reboots. I figured just doing a clean install would be a good start to resolve the problem; it always is.
Just had my first reboot. I think it might be due to greenify. Does anyone have experience with this app and the HTC One M8
Greenify wont cause reboots. Are you running a custom kernel and undervolting by any chance?
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Try to downgrade your firmware to 1.54.x.x...or if you stick with 2.x.x.x try ARHD 9.1 to see if it makes any difference

Love this phone

Re-rooted and unlocked bootloader after installing the latest update. Had to reinstall some apps including harmon kardon. Lowered the max/min cpu setting. Froze some bloatware and the phone is running like a champ. Currently at 62% battery life since 7am est. Been on Pandora normal IG & Facebook activity. I have no regrets from purchasing this phone. Cheers...
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NYLUVBUG said:
Re-rooted and unlocked bootloader after installing the latest update. Had to reinstall some apps including harmon kardon. Lowered the max/min cpu setting. Froze some bloatware and the phone is running like a champ. Currently at 62% battery life since 7am est. Been on Pandora normal IG & Facebook activity. I have no regrets from purchasing this phone. Cheers...
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Are you s off? Cause there dies not seem to be a way to root without it
akbisw said:
Are you s off? Cause there dies not seem to be a way to root without it
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That is definitely not the case! You absolutely do not need s-off to root your device. All you need to successfully root is the proper files, custom recovery, as well as an unlocked bootloader.
Behold_this said:
That is definitely not the case! You absolutely do not need s-off to root your device. All you need to successfully root is the proper files, custom recovery, as well as an unlocked bootloader.
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Can you give me a link to root the m8? I'm on the 4.4.4 stock everything
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Alvee123 said:
Can you give me a link to root the m8? I'm on the 4.4.4 stock everything
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You need to unlock your device then flash the correct superuser package through custom recovery
Behold_this said:
You need to unlock your device then flash the correct superuser package through custom recovery
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So i have to get s-off correct? Im just confused because i have 4.4.4 thought i couldnt root or get s off.
Alvee123 said:
So i have to get s-off correct? Im just confused because i have 4.4.4 thought i couldnt root or get s off.
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S-off has absolutely nothing to do with root or unlocking, two completely different things. I never said anything about s off (other then saying you don't need it for root). I said unlock your bootloader, flash custom recovery and flash the su zip. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what s off, unlocking and even root is it seems. BTW you can absolutely still s off if you want. It cost 25 bucks.
Alvee123 said:
Can you give me a link to root the m8? I'm on the 4.4.4 stock everything
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All you need to do is unlock your bootloader and throw in a custom recovery. You don't need s-off at all. Just go here to unlock your bootloader:
http://www.htcdev.com/
And then flash TWRP and SuperSU and you're good to go.
What they said. ???
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Will installing TWRP break ability to OTA?

Hi guys, Been reading the TWRP guidebut cannot seem tho find the answer to this directly and I'm looking for clarification on the title question, can someone confirm for me please?, if not is it just rooting that will Bork OTA? And if I have a fulll stock backup will restoring it then allow OTA again?
Thanks
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Dynomutt007 said:
Hi guys, Been reading the TWRP guidebut cannot seem tho find the answer to this directly and I'm looking for clarification on the title question, can someone confirm for me please?, if not is it just rooting that will Bork OTA? And if I have a fulll stock backup will restoring it then allow OTA again?
Thanks
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In the TWRP-Thread Post 3 you will find the answers and the needed steps for it.
Been reading the thread but just doest seem clear to me, if someone could make it clear for me here in this thread that would be great
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OK re read the post , so it's rooting that will break OTA , not simply installing twrp, correct?
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Dynomutt007 said:
OK re read the post , so it's rooting that will break OTA , not simply installing twrp, correct?
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lets see if i can simplify it
TWRP 2.8.5.0 = OTA broken
TWRP 2.8.6.0 = OTA broken
TWRP 2.8.6.4 beta = system locked read only long enough to make a system backup (used below)
TWRP 2.8.6.4 beta + SuperSU = OTA broken
using fastboot flash system system.img to restore your system backup allows OTA again
you also have to flash stock recovery to regain OTA ability (same time you restore system)
Excellent thanks that clarifies it perfectly for me
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