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OEM charger output vs. high output car charger

IIRC the stock wall charger is rated at 1.8Ah. But, what is the phone's actual draw? Does it ever get up there near 1.8mAh?
I'm just trying to figure out if a car charger with "only 1000mA" will be sufficient. I'm guessing that the OEM wall charger is rated well above whatever the phone might ask for, but as to how much, I don't know.
I'm actually looking at these two right now as they both seem to give a pretty high output for both Android and Apple devices.
http://www.ianker.com/product/71AN1852C-02WA
http://www.ianker.com/anker-car-charger-usb/product/71AN15WCC-BA

My experience with other phones is that the phone draws exactly what the stock charger gives it. I'd imagine it's the same with this one. 3140mah is a lot of battery to charge.
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borgib said:
My experience with other phones is that the phone draws exactly what the stock charger gives it. I'd imagine it's the same with this one. 3140mah is a lot of battery to charge.
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I'd agree. I charged it the first couple days using the OGP wall charger and USB cable from my Nexus 4. It took all night. Switched the cable with the one in the box, and it charges in like an hour!

I have a 2.1a car charger, and the OGPro charges in exactly the same amount of time as the stock wall charger.
Oddly, it charges slower from my 2a Note II charger.

raduque said:
I have a 2.1a car charger, and the OGPro charges in exactly the same amount of time as the stock wall charger.
Oddly, it charges slower from my 2a Note II charger.
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Which car charger do you have?
I'm looking on amazon and all of the 2A+ charges I'm finding are for Apple crap.
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scottypimpin636 said:
Which car charger do you have?
I'm looking on amazon and all of the 2A+ charges I'm finding are for Apple crap.
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Im looking at all of the chargers from Anker on Amazon. It seems they have the best positive reviews of anything I've seen. Although the 3.6 watt (white unit with either 2 usb ports or one port and a micro usb cable) unit is newer than the 3.1 (black heavy duty), the black unit can give the full 3.1 watts to either port or split it amongst the two ports. And according to Anker, either port will work for Apple or android. They suggested i get the newer (white) unit, but i want to have the full 3.1 watts available to a single port for future h higher powered devices.

I'll have to check those out. I've been looking at this one, which has good reviews on it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003RQBKLC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_image_3?ie=UTF8&m=AWZ3LXPHZK09
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scottypimpin636 said:
I'll have to check those out. I've been looking at this one, which has good reviews on it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003RQBKLC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_image_3?ie=UTF8&m=AWZ3LXPHZK09
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My concern with that one is that it gives a total of 2.1A. So if you charge your OGP using one usb port, there's only 0.3A left for the other port. The disclaimer at the end of the description says that if you are charging an iPad to not use the second port. I'm guessing that warning would also apply too us with the high draw OGP. It also states that the blue light gets even brighter in the dark. You might need to cover the led if it's too bright,but that's a personal taste thing,and it might not actually be that intrusive. Lastly, do you have enough room in your vehicle to rest both your phone, and the head of the charging device? I have a dual outlet 12v supplier in my car, but i bought one that has no cord. The two outlets are rigidly mounted right at the end of the cigarette lighter plug.

I bought a Griffin Powerjolt single USB at Walmart. It only charges at full speed using the OGPro's stock cable. Any other cable is slower, and the cable from my old S2 gives me a "Slow Charging" notification.
Anyway, this charger is just a stop-gap. I'm going to be hard wiring two USB plugs into my truck's 12v system (with some 5v regulators and an Add-a-Circuit).

I was looking at the 3.6A charger, here's the link on amazon.
As I expected, one port is for Apple and one for Android. This is very irritating because I need to charge my OGP while my fiance charges her OG at the same time on trips.
Can our OGP charge at full speed on the Apple port?
Edit: I just read that the kernal in Android 4.2 fixes this issue so we can charge in any USB charger, including apple chargers. I'm guessing LG devices still on 4.1 won't benefit from this update.

Shouldn't going to Settings > PC Connection > USB Connection Type and then setting it to "Charge only" force the device to see any cable as a charge only cable thus making it charge faster?

scottypimpin636 said:
I was looking at the 3.6A charger, here's the link on amazon.
As I expected, one port is for Apple and one for Android. This is very irritating because I need to charge my OGP while my fiance charges her OG at the same time on trips.
Can our OGP charge at full speed on the Apple port?
Edit: I just read that the kernal in Android 4.2 fixes this issue so we can charge in any USB charger, including apple chargers. I'm guessing LG devices still on 4.1 won't benefit from this update.
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As per Anker, the Apple port will charge Android at full speed. I have not verified this myself as I have not gotten mine yet, but that's what I'm told, and expect. I'm waiting for their wall charger to come back in stock as the shipping will be free if l order both.

I ordered the black 3.6v version. I'll get it Monday or Tuesday since I have Prime.
Are there any apps that detect how much juice the battery is getting?
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My LGOG PRO charges on anything with a usb port.
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Jammol said:
My LGOG PRO charges on anything with a usb port.
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Same here. I've been using the charger from my old Atrix. I may get LG's charger out of the box tonight to see if it's any faster.

RaiderDuck said:
Same here. I've been using the charger from my old Atrix. I may get LG's charger out of the box tonight to see if it's any faster.
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I just bought a 4.2 amp dual usb car charger, so I can charge my OGP and any other device without issue.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/42-Amp-Dual-USB-Car-Charger-iPod-iPhone-3s-4-MP3-HTC-/320779507652

I just got the amzer 3.6a charger and sure enough I get the "slow charging" on the apple port. I'm going to sacrifice a usb cable and re wire it so it'll work for now.
Can't wait for Android 4.2 to fix this issue.
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stevefxp said:
I just bought a 4.2 amp dual usb car charger, so I can charge my OGP and any other device without issue.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/42-Amp-Dual-USB-Car-Charger-iPod-iPhone-3s-4-MP3-HTC-/320779507652
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Please keep us posted as to how well it works, and if it really puts out that much juice.
scottypimpin636 said:
I just got the amzer 3.6a charger and sure enough I get the "slow charging" on the apple port. I'm going to sacrifice a usb cable and re wire it so it'll work for now.
Can't wait for Android 4.2 to fix this issue.
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Any info on how to rewire (Web link) would be appreciated.
What is it that 4.2 has that will fix it?

Here's the link for the charge cable mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984838
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I just made the charge cable linked in the post above. It works like a charm
I also purchased This wall charger which works perfectly fine with our phone on both the "A" and "NA" port.
I'm willing to bet this car charger made by the same company as the one linked above will work also.

High Capacity Charger

Just got my hands on the CyberMonday Moto X and I AM PSYCHED!
Now quick question.
I have a Blackberry Playbook Rapid Charger, that outputs about 1.8 amps. The voltages is identical to the A/C adapter from Moto. Can I use it to charge up the Moto X? Or would the higher current damage the internal parts?
My knowledge of electrics is limited to high school science, and subject to chronicle decay over the past 10 years.

DrDecoy said:
Just got my hands on the CyberMonday Moto X and I AM PSYCHED!
Now quick question.
I have a Blackberry Playbook Rapid Charger, that outputs about 1.8 amps. The voltages is identical to the A/C adapter from Moto. Can I use it to charge up the Moto X?
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Yes
DrDecoy said:
Or would the higher current damage the internal parts?
My knowledge of electrics is limited to high school science, and subject to chronicle decay over the past 10 years.
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No, the phone will only draw as much as it can support. Rapid charging is generally considered to shorten the life of lithium batteries however.

Phone will only charge around 1amp as far as I can tell. One of the things I miss about my s4 is that it charges at 2amps
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The Moto X can pull at up to 1.5A
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/6

King Speedy said:
The Moto X can pull at up to 1.5A
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/6
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Spec wise it may say that , but I haven't seen it hit anything over 940mah. Says full charge is 2.5 hours which sounds about right but that's a far cry from the s4 that charges zero to full in 1 hour
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Legacystar said:
Spec wise it may say that , but I haven't seen it hit anything over 940mah. Says full charge is 2.5 hours which sounds about right but that's a far cry from the s4 that charges zero to full in 1 hour
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Yeah I charge my S4 @ 1.9A and it's done in no time. I know it's bad for the battery but, that's the real benefit of having a replaceable battery!

Legacystar said:
Spec wise it may say that , but I haven't seen it hit anything over 940mah. Says full charge is 2.5 hours which sounds about right but that's a far cry from the s4 that charges zero to full in 1 hour
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What are you using to determine that?

KidJoe said:
What are you using to determine that?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw
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Legacystar said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw
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Thanks, I use that too. But I question its accuracy on the X since it doesn't properly detect my battery's capacity (i have to manually enter it), and often it shows -600mA when running (and not connected to power) even though I can get 24hrs+ out of the charge.
During charge cycles, I've even seen it only show +2mA and +3mA when plugged into AC (and battery is in the 40% remaining).
Right now when I look at it now, its showing +950mA while plugged into the Smart port on my Anker 2nd Gen Astro 3 12000mah battery.
Edit: now its showing +731mA so its all over the place. Not sure if this is the app or the phone.

Does anyone know how well these rapid chargers work with extended batteries like the Morphie or the Zero Lemon?

Greg8 said:
Does anyone know how well these rapid chargers work with extended batteries like the Morphie or the Zero Lemon?
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As long as the charger's output voltage matches the device's input voltage requirement, any charger should work. Then it becomes how much current (amps, or A) does the charger output vs how much current does the device need to charge, which will factor into the time it takes to charge the device.
A few examples:
With a Droid Bionic that ships with a 850mA charger, it will barely charge when using a 550mA (.55A) charger or USB port on my PC. With a 750mA (.75A) charger it takes about 10 to 15 minutes longer than when using the 850. Using a 1000mA (or 1A) charger from my HTC Thunderbolt it charges about 20 minutes quicker than when using the stock 850 charger. Even though using a 2000mA (2A) charger can provide more current, the Bionic charges in the same amount of time as with a 1A charger.
iPad 3. It comes with a 2100mA (2.1A) charger. The 1A charger that comes with my iPhone 5 and 5s doesn't provide enough current for the iPad. It wont charge the iPad unless I power it off, and even then it takes way too long.
The X comes with the 1150mA (1.15A) "duo rapid charger." The X doesn't charge any faster using the 2.1A ipad charger (using a standard micro usb cable of course). And it does seem to charge at about the same speed as when using my 1A charger from my HTC Thunderbolt. While I've used the 850mA charger initially (so I didn't have to replace any of my cords on my dresser), I haven't timed its charging with the 850mA vs 1A.
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The Moto X can pull at up to 1.5A
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/6
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(sorry about replying to an old post but...)
it says "if you use that kind of charger" the article also says that the X comes with a 850mA charger yet mine is labeled 1150mA output. Either way, an 850mA or 1150mA can't supply 1500mA (1.5A) current.

Looking for good charger

Hello,
The charger i've received with the phone seems to be cheap and not good enough, someone can recommend a good one?
Thanks

I'm using a blackberry original charger with 5v and 800mAh and this gives me ~3 hours of screen on during in ~ 40hours of usage.
In this time I make phone calls for ~1h ,I keep data on only in needed.screen brightness is set to auto75℅.I don't play games too often.WiFi stays on for about 20h.
I observed that using a lower amperage for charging,battery drains slower.original charger has 1.2Ah and charge the battery in about 2 h.this 800mAh blackberry charger does it in ~3.5-4h.
Try to charge your phone from a USB 2.0 port.it will take longer,but you'll notice some increase in battery lasting.

I use about 4 different chargers and they all do the same job for me. I generally look for USB chargers that can do more than 1Amp and that seems to work fine for my Optimus G.

mfincken said:
I use about 4 different chargers and they all do the same job for me. I generally look for USB chargers that can do more than 1Amp and that seems to work fine for my Optimus G.
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i tried a cheap 2amp Charger (Russian copy or something of a Samsung Charger) and it worked oki for like 2weeks, but what i noticed was that it didn't charged my phone faster then the original LG charger (I am running CM11/Android 4.4.2)

Can someone suggest a decent car charger?
I have tried several types but they barely keeps the phone from discharging when screen and GPS are active.

Use a charger which has 4.8-5.0V output with 1-1.2A or 1000-1200mA rating. My phone charges up in about 2.5hours and lasts more than a day considering I use little amount of wifi, more of texting and less of phone calls.

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I was using amb charger of 1 ah and it was good . Yesterday i bought hama twin port charger with original Nokia cable . Thats also a good combo . What matters most is keep phone temperature to minimum during charge . I ve noticed one battery temprature reaches 35 degree celsius or + , it would not charge and just drain .
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im using this samsung note 2 charger.
5V 2A
its so fast

sometimes I plug in and I see slow charging. When I check battery status it's written Charging (USB) there. I unplug then plug in again and : charging (AC). What's the reason for that?
I'm using stock ROM and stock charger.

akahroba said:
sometimes I plug in and I see slow charging. When I check battery status it's written Charging (USB) there. I unplug then plug in again and : charging (AC). What's the reason for that?
I'm using stock ROM and stock charger.
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Faulty cable i guess
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Ahmed Xperia p said:
Faulty cable i guess
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Does G pro port differ from G? I once charged a g pro with my charger. Can it be the reason?

great post, i want to buy a new one.

I use a anker 4 port charger with 2.4a. Device is fully charged in 1,5h!

1.5h with lg g3 charger and cable also.
~2h with original charger but with g3 cable.

Wall Charger Help

The Motorola charger charge is very slow and wanted to buy different one. I live in India and want To buy new adapter, please post the name of the charger u using so that I can buy online
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Try Apple 5V 1A wall charger for iPhone 4S (be sure it's 1400 model, not 1300). Maybe not the cheapest solution, but tested and working well.

ashisharia said:
The Motorola charger charge is very slow and wanted to buy different one. I live in India and want To buy new adapter, please post the name of the charger u using so that I can buy online
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You can try Nokia AC-20, AC-60N or AC 50
Search on Flipkart or ebay there are a lot.

The Moto G charges at a maximum current of 1.5 amps. Any USB charger of that capacity or more will charge it as fast as it's capable of charging. If the charger has a higher capacity, the Moto G charging circuit will still limit it to 1.5 amps. Nothing else about the charger matters, unless the construction quality is so poor that it breaks too easily or gets so hot that it catches fire.

Cheap quality
The charger and earphones supplied with moto g is of cheap quality It wont even last 6 months!
Btw you can try any nokia charger AC 20 AC 50
seems to be working fine when i tested

SONY CP-AD2 Output is 2.1A it will charge the mobile quickly available offline through Sony brand stores
only downside the included cable is very short just 50cm but you can use any other micro usb cable with it

Monsieur_Bond said:
You can try Nokia AC-20, AC-60N or AC 50
Search on Flipkart or ebay there are a lot.
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Tries using a nokia charger (1.2A), it charged my mobile much faster compared to the included motorola charger (.5A), about 30-40mins faster.
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Wall charger
l use a Samsung charger of a Galaxy Tab 3 when l need to charge my moto g very fast, the phone charges in 1.5 hrs with 2.1 A. l recomend it.

Error message when using fast adaptive charger

As far as I've read the g4 is 2.0 charging capable. I tried using my Samsung fast adaptive charger which from what I've scene is qualcom 2.0 and I get the charger not compatible error message and charging stops. This particular charger has been used on different 2.0 charging devices as I've scene in a charger comparitve test so why does it not work on my g4? There's no reason it shouldn't work. Output is 9.v=1.87A or 5.0v=2.0 A. Can't find any info on the web. Same charger works on my moto x 2014 which a 2.0 compatible. Even if the charger couldn't sustain the higher output it should still charge at the lower rate
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Maduro78 said:
As far as I've read the g4 is 2.0 charging capable. I tried using my Samsung fast adaptive charger which from what I've scene is qualcom 2.0 and I get the charger not compatible error message and charging stops. This particular charger has been used on different 2.0 charging devices as I've scene in a charger comparitve test so why does it not work on my g4? There's no reason it shouldn't work. Output is 9.v=1.87A or 5.0v=2.0 A. Can't find any info on the web. Same charger works on my moto x 2014 which a 2.0 compatible. Even if the charger couldn't sustain the higher output it should still charge at the lower rate
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If this charger is from the Note 4 then you won't be the only one who has issues with it charging the G4.
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shook187 said:
If this charger is from the Note 4 then you won't be the only one who has issues with it charging the G4.
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Is it Samsung specific chargers? Don't want to waste the money on a new charger and have the same problem especially since I have a draw full of non fast chargers.
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I bought a supposedly-QC 2.0-compatible Samsung charger off eBay. My G4 refused to charge from it at all ("not compatible"). But it would charge my S3 alright. A coworker just bought an S6, it charged that just fine, and I believe the phone indicated it was quick-charging. I did not get the part # off the charger.
I was kind of surprised, as I'm pretty sure I'd seen people mention charging their G4 with Samsung fast chargers.

Maduro78 said:
Is it Samsung specific chargers? Don't want to waste the money on a new charger and have the same problem especially since I have a draw full of non fast chargers.
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I use my S6 charger on my G4 without any issues but I was told by a few members here the NOTE 4 charger was a no go for them
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I bought a supposedly-QC 2.0-compatible Samsung charger off eBay. My G4 refused to charge from it at all ("not compatible"). But it would charge my S3 alright. A coworker just bought an S6, it charged that just fine, and I believe the phone indicated it was quick-charging. I did not get the part # off the charger.
I was kind of surprised, as I'm pretty sure I'd seen people mention charging their G4 with Samsung fast chargers.
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See that's what worries me don't want to waste money on a qc and get the same message. Its supposed to be 2.0 compatible there's no reason for it not to work. It should still charge at the lower amperage just as your s3 did
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shook187 said:
I use my S6 charger on my G4 without any issues but I was told by a few members here the NOTE 4 charger was a no go for them
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There's no reason for it not to work and some people report it not working on other 2.0 chargers either
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Using the AUKEY QC2.0 charger with my G4, works beautifully.

siraltus said:
Using the AUKEY QC2.0 charger with my G4, works beautifully.
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Thanks I'll pick one up
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