Possible photo recovery? Deleted via ES File Explorer - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4

This is more of a general Android question rather than a Galaxy S4 question but hopefully somebody has knowledge about it on this board. Basically I had some old, nostalgic pictures that were saved to my external SD card first, and then moved to my internal memory into a special folder via ES File Explorer and I ended up deleting them because I thought I wouldn't need them anymore. I deleted them from my internal memory via ES File Explorer. Mind you, I HAVE done several wipes of internal storage from installing ROM's and whatnot so I honestly think it's beyond unrecoverable.
Do you think there are copies of the pictures saved on my external SD card that a super highpowered recovery program would find since the pictures were put on there first and then moved? Or am I really **** out of luck? I don't know how data recovery works from media storage but I thought maybe these could be recovered.
I have tried using DiskDigger made specifically for Android and scanning internal memory and it did turn up some old pictures but not the ones I was hoping for. Wondering if there's some other method maybe?

I have to look in my tech dvds for a applications that I use.
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
I have to look in my tech dvds for a applications that I use.
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If it's too time consuming you don't have to.
If they're gone, it's fine. I still have them visualized in my mind . Just sucks I deleted them without thinking twice.

Try recuva: http://www.piriform.com/recuva
If nothing else has been written over the files, they will still be recoverable, as deleting a file only marks the space as usable. If anything has written over that space, however, you are unfortunately SoL. There are higher end recovery software suites that will help recovery partial files and whatnot, but recuva is super easy to use and is free, so I would start there.

brian117 said:
I have tried using DiskDigger made specifically for Android and scanning internal memory and it did turn up some old pictures but not the ones I was hoping for. Wondering if there's some other method maybe?
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Are you sure you scanned the right location? Depending on the camera app and its settings they can be stored on both the internal and external sd card. I'ved used DiskDigger numerous times and it found very old images.
By chance, would this be a 64gb microsd?

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Are you sure you scanned the right location? Depending on the camera app and its settings they can be stored on both the internal and external sd card. I'ved used DiskDigger numerous times and it found very old images.
By chance, would this be a 64gb microsd?
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No it's a 32GB. I scanned data for internal and scanned my external card yes. Strange thing is it would display the pictures I already have saved and would make the list really long so going through it was a pain. I'll try it again tonight but I doubt it will work.
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No it's a 32GB. I scanned data for internal and scanned my external card yes. Strange thing is it would display the pictures I already have saved and would make the list really long so going through it was a pain. I'll try it again tonight but I doubt it will work.
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I asked about the card size because I got burnt with a fake 64gb card. Once it was about 6gb full images would start to corrupt or vanish and I couldnt recover them.

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I asked about the card size because I got burnt with a fake 64gb card. Once it was about 6gb full images would start to corrupt or vanish and I couldnt recover them.
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Thanks for the heads up. That has to suck though I'm sorry. You should have returned it right when you found out it was a fake.

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Moving pics and video

How do I move pics and video on my phone storage to my sd card? Do I HAVE to use something like root explorer? Can I make the default spot for video my sd card? How?
Thanks guys this is driving me crazy
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default should be sdcard, I didn't think it was possible to store internally
As NewZJ said, they should already be on your sdcard...But you can use astro or root explorer to make a new folder, and then set that as the destination.
exek215;11701464Can I make the default spot for video my sd card? How?
Thanks guys this is driving me crazy
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Yes, if you have root explorer or some other file management application, you can create a new folder, e.g. "My Videos", "My Nude Pics" etc, etc. good luck
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mmm weird because I use to have about 60 megabytes left on my internal. today was my son's first birthday so I took some video. just now I tried to download a few apps and it says that I have no memory left in my internal storage... check ed apps to sd and there are no apps to move... all I did today was take some video and a few pics
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Did you try moving them manually?
Yea there is no way for pics/videos from the stock camera to be stored internally. Its not even an option.
Try using a cache cleaning app if you need more space, if I go a couple weeks without cleaning my cache it gets pretty big.
As others said, the Evo automatically stores pictures & videos on the sd card. You can check storage for both in Settings > SD & Phone Storage or something like that.

Unable to move any apps to new SanDisk 64gb class 10 sdcard

I purchased new 64 GB SanDisk class 10 sdcard and inserted in my phone. My phone however will not move any apps to the card and none of the apps I have are able to move its data to the new card.
It seems that Samsung used an internal storage as "sdcard" and the true sdcard is called an "external sdcard" that most applications does not have access to / or is programmed accordingly. Which essentially renders the card useless.
Have anyone came across this problem?
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Yup, same problem here. Hopefully someone will find a way of working around that soon.
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Yup you said it, samsung made a stupid desicion wit that
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I purchased new 64 GB SanDisk class 10 sdcard and inserted in my phone. My phone however will not move any apps to the card and none of the apps I have are able to move its data to the new card.
It seems that Samsung used an internal storage as "sdcard" and the true sdcard is called an "external sdcard" that most applications does not have access to / or is programmed accordingly. Which essentially renders the card useless.
Have anyone came across this problem?
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There's a thread that goes into great detail on this problem in the international gs3 section. It's actually Google who's coding this in now, but alot of manufacturers are using a workaround, but not samsung. The card is pretty much good for music, movies, and any large downloads you may want to transfer there. To my knowledge Cyanogenmod & possibly AOKP still work the way it should, but touchwiz based roms will not. There is an app somewhere on XDA that will allow you to store large data files for games to the sd, but again, I believe it's in the i9300 forum. I hope this will help you some.
Edit: check out xda tv on YouTube, and there's a recent video from the new girl Erica where she covers some type of work around for the gs3 I think?
Thanks, that almost sounds like it's better to root? Touch Wiz isn't that bad but I am not a fan of it. Samsung was nice to let us disable all bloatware but making the sd card useless is really idiotic. I almost want to say what's the point of the scared then?
I'll do ssome more research on this thanks.
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If the app has separate data downloads try this for me, move the data to the external sd card, delete data and app from the internal sd card. redownload app and see if it recognizes the data on the external card. I mad copies as back up of a few big meg data downloads on the external card. I did an odin recovery, when I downloaded the apps again they found the data on their own on the external card.
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If the app has separate data downloads try this for me, move the data to the external sd card, delete data and app from the internal sd card. redownload app and see if it recognizes the data on the external card. I mad copies as back up of a few big meg data downloads on the external card. I did an odin recovery, when I downloaded the apps again they found the data on their own on the external card.
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An interesting thought, I can definitively move data to external card – I’ll try this tonight and report back. Thought even if this works it still isn’t a solution.
For example;
1. Many backup applications hardcode the SDCard’s location which in this case it always will be internal memory
2. Navigation data gets downloaded into internal memory
3. Google music gets downloaded into internal memory, I could not find any option to move it – its simply unavailable.
4. I don’t have to move all apps to the external card, but the few games/apps stored in the external card sounds like a good idea sine those are not essential for me (especially the once with lots of storage requirements).
5. Any podcasts / videos also won’t go to the external storage
6. Some applications lets you backup their settings like preferences RSS lists etc – all those also go to internal memory.
In my opinion the following must happen:
1. “All developers” must update their applications to accommodate for S3’s changed card location
2. Google must update its code and allow apps / data move to external card.
I’ll call t-mobile to see whatever they have to say about this.
I spoke to t-mobile and was told I can return the phone if I don't like it. Essentially the SD card is “useless” and according to T-Mobile’s rep only works with pictures and videos – the phone is sold as is. Apparently they know nothing about this and never heard of any plans for a fix.
They also gave me phone number to Samsung’s support which I’ll call tonight and report back.
I wonder how that works after the phone is rooted with custom ROM. Has anyone tried this? Please let me know if you did….
If your going to return it, simply use Odin to go back to factory fresh stock.
I think this is a push for more of us to use cloud storage which is cool but I like using physical sd card for storage..
I'm having to make do with my 16gb internal as games get bigger and eat up storage. My 64gb is almost useless if I had known this I would have gotten like a 32gb card and saved some cash.
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But don't return this phone. It's still legendary!
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I agree, this phone is FAN-FUKING-TRAGIC.. Best phone by far. Ummm, how do we use the cloud to store stuff though? And could we use it to move apps and free up space? Sorry if my questions are dumb to some, just not sure what the cloud is
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Did you try doing what I said?
The cloud is pretty much a usb stick u don't have to carry around with you. You can't store installed apps there but you can store anything else on it like apks to install later music, docs. Pretty much anything you would store on a usb.
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@ stevessvt Yes I have but it did not work - I am pretty sure I screwed something up 
I don’t think I will be returning this phone, there isn’t anything better on T-Mobile unfortunately and S3 has better specs then Latest Nexus. Now I think I will research about S3 rooting and whether it makes sense to root this phone and put custom ROM on it.
Thanks everyone!
This isn't Samsungs doing, it's how Google has made android from ics on. Other manufacturers that make their phones able to install apps on your external sd are using a workaround by modifying the code, but I've read that it's really not ideal? If your using titanium backup to keep your apps backed up then you need to run a backup. Then go into your internal sd & move the TB folder to your external sd. Go back into titanium backup & select preferences from the settings menu. There select backup folder location & hit the Detect button. Now your backups should go to external storage.
You can also go under settings in the stock Web browser & change your download location to external so that large roms download to external sd. If your using the new version of twrp for the Tmo gs3 that they released today, then you can check the box under backup that says backup to external. That will also save room on your internal storage.
Personally I prefer all of my apps on internal. They open faster & write data much faster to internal then to an sd card. I really only use my sd card for holding movies, backups, & large file downloads. As I stated in my previous post, AOKP & Cyanogenmod still can install apps to sd if that's what you prefer. I honestly think we should be able to choose for ourselves, but unfortunately I don't make the rules. If you look in the international section I read a thread somewhere that had an app that will let you store the large data files from games on your external storage. That's the only apps that really take up a significant amount of space. Music can take up a lot of space, but with Google play music keeping 20gb of music in the cloud for you, that shouldn't be much of an issue to those of us who are in good coverage areas. I hope this helped some of you to maximize your storage space.
Just a friendly advice...T-Mobile is the last place you want to go for any answers. The people who work there (most, not all) are complete stupid over the top freakin' idiots. They know nothing and often times just search their data base or google something for answers. Most 99.9% do not have any first hand knowledge of anything about phones. They just know the same $#!t you can read off the box....
Complete idiots..
Anyhow, just hang tight as I'm sure there will be work around this in the very near future. It's not a big deal at all.... just do what fellow member: stevessvt said...it works....
Good luck!
keinam.ty said:
I spoke to t-mobile and was told I can return the phone if I don't like it. Essentially the SD card is “useless” and according to T-Mobile’s rep only works with pictures and videos – the phone is sold as is. Apparently they know nothing about this and never heard of any plans for a fix.
They also gave me phone number to Samsung’s support which I’ll call tonight and report back.
I wonder how that works after the phone is rooted with custom ROM. Has anyone tried this? Please let me know if you did….
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I don't see how you can fill 16gb with just applications anytime soon
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es7241 said:
I don't see how you can fill 16gb with just applications anytime soon
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Games and some utilities apps, my iPhone was 32 gb after 6 months I had 3 gb left and only 1gb of music
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Let me first off apologize for getting a lil off topic with this question, however, I Just got the SGS3 (which by the way is the GREATEST PHONE EVER MADE!!! If God or Allah or Buda or whatever higher up, power that be owned a phone... It would be this one. LOL) OK, back on track now. So I'm coming from an HTC phone and I have a TON of bookmarks stored on my browser that I want to transfer over to my new phone. My question is, where can I find my browsers bookmarks using file explorer so that I can zip it up in a file to send to my phones browser? Or is there a better, easier way to do this??
Please help
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[Q] Note II - Apps2sd Issue

I have a Note II (Sprint) and i recently purchased a class 10 64GB Sd card, i rooted my phone and followed Galaxynote2root video on youtube (i can't post link but it's the one about apps2sd) https:// www youtube.com/watch?v=QUF7R0mmk00
It did work, it's showing that i have at least 59GB on my "Internal" and my REAL internal is now showing up as SD with 700mbs.
The Problem: While it shows that i have a lot of space, anything i download is going straight to internal (real) not the 64GB card.
What i want be able to do: - To take all my apps/files from my internal drive and move them to the 64GB SD card
- Have any files i download/install go directly to 64GB SD card
I purchased Titanium backup but it's not moving the files to SD it says it moved but storage app is not counting
I'm so confused if anyone has the time to help me i will greatly appreciate it.
Google in all their wisdom removed app2Sd in Android 4.0 and up. This is why we need a 32 and 64 version off this phone. Make sure your titanium backup defaults to your external as well as the camera to save internal space.
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Google in all their wisdom removed app2Sd in Android 4.0 and up. This is why we need a 32 and 64 version off this phone. Make sure your titanium backup defaults to your external as well as the camera to save internal space.
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I know this isn't the ideal solution, but can we at least move the large Data or Obb files onto the extSD card and then move them back when we want to play the game (Like Asphalt 7 and Dark Knight)?
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I know this isn't the ideal solution, but can we at least move the large Data or Obb files onto the extSD card and then move them back when we want to play the game (Like Asphalt 7 and Dark Knight)?
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Sadly no. I've not been able to use any kind of apps to do this.
Between Google Music cache, google maps/earth cache, tumbler cache, Bard's Tale, and Asphalt 7 that's using up almost 9gb of space on the internal "card" partition. It's crazy that the Evo3D could easily move apps/data to the SDCard but we've taken such a huge step back with this flaw.
kronium said:
Google in all their wisdom removed app2Sd in Android 4.0 and up. This is why we need a 32 and 64 version off this phone. Make sure your titanium backup defaults to your external as well as the camera to save internal space.
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Huh? There was apps2sd in 3rd party ics builds for my evo4g. It will probably take some time to port it to the various N2 ROMs unless there is some overpowering technical reason for it bot working. N2 is still new and young and devs are still getting the hang of it. Stock OTA might not ever get it but who stays at stock?
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Huh? There was apps2sd in 3rd party ics builds for my evo4g. It will probably take some time to port it to the various N2 ROMs unless there is some overpowering technical reason for it bot working. N2 is still new and young and devs are still getting the hang of it. Stock OTA might not ever get it but who stays at stock?
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In the Play Store description on apps2sd the developer specifically lists the Galaxy Note 2 as a device which is NOT compatible. :crying:, not happy about that one either. Cause with the potential of this device and its display I want to d/l kick ass games but can't plug up my internal storage when I have a perfectly good class 10 32Gb SD card!
The only fix for this to my knowledge at this time(which my knowledge about moving apps to the sd card is not extensive at the moment. I have done a little research. ) the only solution at the time is an available script. Which I saw on Galaxynote2root.com as well. But I am personally not familiar enough with the method nor how it may interact with a custom ROM therefore I am personally waiting for either a clearer description of the process or a different method all together.
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I got it guys!
Okay
The video teaches you how to flip your SDcard for the Internal, so the phone thinks you are installing on the internal but it's actually the SD (CONFUSING LOL) So when i went to titanium pro, i was super confused with the whole "Move to SD" i didn't know if it was moving to SD or the Internal since i flipped it was all super confusing to me i'm new to android, i've had an iPhone since the first one and decided to get a Note II about a week ago.
So what i did was just deleted all my apps, followed the video and installed all the apps again from the play store and it went to the 64GB card!!! So yay :highfive:
Apps/games run great not even lag at all, camera/videos save to 64GB so i'm really happy.
Careful with that card. Definitely not as reliable as internal memory. Especially if your taxing it with everyday constant use .
I just ran into this issue, no space at all! I just realized that my titanium had been installing to my internal.
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Tw1sted247 said:
In the Play Store description on apps2sd the developer specifically lists the Galaxy Note 2 as a device which is NOT compatible. :crying:, not happy about that one either. Cause with the potential of this device and its display I want to d/l kick ass games but can't plug up my internal storage when I have a perfectly good class 10 32Gb SD card!
The only fix for this to my knowledge at this time(which my knowledge about moving apps to the sd card is not extensive at the moment. I have done a little research. ) the only solution at the time is an available script. Which I saw on Galaxynote2root.com as well. But I am personally not familiar enough with the method nor how it may interact with a custom ROM therefore I am personally waiting for either a clearer description of the process or a different method all together.
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Cry no more... This worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262&highlight=note+2
Jusy make sure you read all the posts.
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Cry no more... This worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262&highlight=note+2
Jusy make sure you read all the posts.
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Not all 105 pages though right?
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Not all 105 pages though right?
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At least the first several... and this one for sure...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34291347&postcount=1001
Good luck and don't forget to hit the thanks button if I help you...
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At least the first several... and this one for sure...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34291347&postcount=1001
Good luck and don't forget to hit the thanks button if I help you...
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Says I don't have enough space to install wtf
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[Q] Is there anyway to put apps on your external SD???

Hello guys,
I was wondering if anyone has used app2sd or any others to convert your apps in your internal to external memory
when i tried using app2sd it will put it on my external yes but as soon as i run an application like a game it will re download it and put it onto my internal. Anyone else having this issue?
there is another solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109112
This solution works to swap internal with external but for 64G SD cards people are having issues so I am re framing from doing this method.
don't bother with this; there is so much room in your internal memory, that its a waste of time and effort..you will never fill up your internal app space.
I have 300 apps installed, and still have almost 7 gigs free...
Hi try the rom toolbox from play store to install app on sd card.
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wase4711 said:
don't bother with this; there is so much room in your internal memory, that its a waste of time and effort..you will never fill up your internal app space.
I have 300 apps installed, and still have almost 7 gigs free...
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That's not entirely true. Some people play various games which seemingly chew through storage space for all the media bits and pieces. Look through some of the directory bind threads for examples.
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That's not entirely true. Some people play various games which seemingly chew through storage space for all the media bits and pieces. Look through some of the directory bind threads for examples.
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I totally agree. With my 16gb GN2 I find myself low on internal storage all the time. Yes you can install literally 100's of smaller apps but games such as NFS: Most Wanted, Nova 3, Spider Man and many others nearing 2 gigs each or more, it's hard to have more than a few games installed before having to un install just to try out a new game that you're interested in. If you find a good work-around let me know. I've found that App Mgr III doesn't work with our devices (and many others) and my ROM Toolbox Pro only gives you the option to install all apps to either your internal or external without the option to pick and choose which goes where on an app to app basis.
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I use Directory Bind myself with my 64bg card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
I like this program because you select which apps you want to move to the sd card. It takes more work to use but once you get it setup it works flawlessly so far. I have like 25gb of games installed on my phone
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Exactly what I need! Looks very promising. Plan on giving it a try tonight or tomorrow. Thanks
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I use Directory Bind myself with my 64bg card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
I like this program because you select which apps you want to move to the sd card. It takes more work to use but once you get it setup it works flawlessly so far. I have like 25gb of games installed on my phone
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So you need to select each app separately then? Is there no way to do a batch select at all?
I'll read up on it more.
There is no way to do a batch selection. If you wanted you could select the folder before the game and that would be like doing it via a batch selection.
For example:
Let's say Shadowgun was saved in Android/Data/com.shadowgun/ (again this is not the exact location)
Instead of binding that location you could bind Android/Data/ instead. If you do that you will capture EVERYTHING in that directory now and anything that gets installed there in the future.
The downside of doing it that way is if an app wants to install into that location it will always force it to the sd card which is slower than internal memory. So Games like Asphalt 7 and Nova 3 take longer to load on sd card. So that is why I did one directory (game) at a time so I can choose which games are on the sd while others are on the internal. All games worked though via directory bind that I have tried.
Hope that helps.
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jev3gs said:
There is no way to do a batch selection. If you wanted you could select the folder before the game and that would be like doing it via a batch selection.
For example:
Let's say Shadowgun was saved in Android/Data/com.shadowgun/ (again this is not the exact location)
Instead of binding that location you could bind Android/Data/ instead. If you do that you will capture EVERYTHING in that directory now and anything that gets installed there in the future.
The downside of doing it that way is if an app wants to install into that location it will always force it to the sd card which is slower than internal memory. So Games like Asphalt 7 and Nova 3 take longer to load on sd card. So that is why I did one directory (game) at a time so I can choose which games are on the sd while others are on the internal. All games worked though via directory bind that I have tried.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks, so perhaps this method is not the best scenario for me as I am looking to have all my Apps and data plus music, videos etc out of internal storage on to sd card. Using this method if you update an app I assume it would go to internal and you would need t do the process for that app over again?
I guess I am wanting a seamless way of just swapping internal-external. The script I am using seems to work very well but I am concerned when I go to a 64GB card. I'll keep watching the posts in the _ext2sdcardnote2internal thread.
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Thanks, so perhaps this method is not the best scenario for me as I am looking to have all my Apps and data plus music, videos etc out of internal storage on to sd card. Using this method if you update an app I assume it would go to internal and you would need t do the process for that app over again?
I guess I am wanting a seamless way of just swapping internal-external. The script I am using seems to work very well but I am concerned when I go to a 64GB card. I'll keep watching the posts in the _ext2sdcardnote2internal thread.
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Actually when you do app updates it updates the info on the extsdcard and not internal.
So what happens is the software tricks the Os into thinking the data is on the internal card when it really is on the ext card. So everything happens automatically. You do not need to move the info every time there is an update.
I would suggest doing a small app and playing with it before you jump in all the way. Use Deadtrigger for an example, it won't take to long to transfer the data.
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jev3gs said:
Actually when you do app updates it updates the info on the extsdcard and not internal.
So what happens is the software tricks the Os into thinking the data is on the internal card when it really is on the ext card. So everything happens automatically. You do not need to move the info every time there is an update.
I would suggest doing a small app and playing with it before you jump in all the way. Use Deadtrigger for an example, it won't take to long to transfer the data.
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Thanks again. I am keeping an eye on the extsdcard2internalsdnote2 thread as well re: 64GB cards. The App2SDnote2 script I am using works well with 32gb card but unsure about 64gb card.

KitKat causing SD card problems - woah intentional?

This has got to be the worst move ever made by Google (and I'm a Google fanboy). Makes me frustrated. Samsung is one of the only companies providing micro sd card slots, and now this comes and screws that up. What can you even do with a micro sd card now besides read it...?!
Here is the article: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/65841
Leibeck explains what this means to users, writing,
“If your device has user-accessible internal flash storage, your SD Card is a “secondary external storage device”.
What this means is that with KitKat, applications will no longer be able create, modify, or remove files and folders on your external SD card. As a for-instance, you can no longer use a file manager to copy files from your computer to the SD card over a network. This ability, which has existed since the beginning of Android, has been taken away.”
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Mystery? said:
This has got to be the worst move ever made by Google (and I'm a Google fanboy). Makes me frustrated. Samsung is one of the only companies providing micro sd card slots, and now this comes and screws that up. What can you even do with a micro sd card now besides read it...?!
Here is the article: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/65841
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This is horrible.....shame on google
I'll be waiting. No need to rush in and be an early adopter. I wonder how the S5 is handling this/going to.
Google mess it up on purpose, to force people to use their cloud services and be bombarded by their advertising, that's how they make money and their official explanation to improve security is so lame. Anyhow, hopefully Samsung will fix it sooner or later, or you can root it and fix it yourself, loosing warranty in the process. I took the high road and will not update, until a) it's all fixed or b) my warranty runs out and won't care about Knox at all.
Google gets on my nerves lately, first they messed up new maps update (at least I got option to stay on old version for now) and now this.
rosedog said:
I'll be waiting. No need to rush in and be an early adopter. I wonder how the S5 is handling this/going to.
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So should I not up date the software.
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Google changed it because a lot of folks were having their app data store on the sdcard, which later on caused stability issues with the apps loading. Some resulted in FCs, crashes etc etc. So in order to increase stability, and possibly even security in Android, Google made the move to allow on app data to be stored internally. You can store and do whatever else you want to do on the sdcard like storing music, photos, other files etc etc. App data can no longer be stored on external...
Personally I don't mind, the Note 3 comes with 32GB minimum... That's plenty for me....
Pajar0913 said:
So should I not up date the software.
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I hear ya. 32gb is more than I need.. makes a lot of sense to do it that way.
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I am not sure I understand correctly. I read the above link also.
When I go to my application manager I can still move apps to SD card?
okay, so I take a picture. The photo is not saved on the sd card?
Exfex21 said:
okay, so I take a picture. The photo is not saved on the sd card?
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I'm guessing it is going to be under your stock gallery app and it's saving to your device.
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Limeybastard said:
I am not sure I understand correctly. I read the above link also.
When I go to my application manager I can still move apps to SD card?
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Yes, you can still move some apps to the SD card.
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Pajar0913 said:
I'm guessing it is going to be under your stock gallery app and it's saving to your device.
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I still can go to settings and change to save the pictures to the SD card. It's the app data, not pictures that you can't move to an SD card.
These SD card problems are a super-dealbreaker for me, does anyone know a way (via root or whatever) to revert kitkat to previous SD card behaviors? If not, I'm going to have to revert back to Jelly Bean.
jax omen said:
These SD card problems are a super-dealbreaker for me, does anyone know a way (via root or whatever) to revert kitkat to previous SD card behaviors? If not, I'm going to have to revert back to Jelly Bean.
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If you're rooted there is a fix. it's in the kitkat qa thread in the dev section. Seems to work fine.
itsmikeramsay said:
Google changed it because a lot of folks were having their app data store on the sdcard, which later on caused stability issues with the apps loading. Some resulted in FCs, crashes etc etc. So in order to increase stability, and possibly even security in Android, Google made the move to allow on app data to be stored internally. You can store and do whatever else you want to do on the sdcard like storing music, photos, other files etc etc. App data can no longer be stored on external...
Personally I don't mind, the Note 3 comes with 32GB minimum... That's plenty for me....
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Why not force apps to be defaulted to internal unless user unchecks that option for people using developers menu and/or root. Sort of like force gpu rendering option.

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