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Is a backup in CWM 3.0.0.0 compatible with CWM 2.5.x.x?

So, I've decided I'm going to use ROM Manager to flash a previous version of CWM (2.5.1.4). I'm currently running the 3.0.0.2 but feel stuck from all the reports I've been reading about the latest version not being compatible with older hboot and partitions. I'm scared to do anything...
Anyways, while in 3.0.0.0 I did a back up. Is this going to be compatible with the older version or should I do another one after flashing back?
Also, I don't remember it actually saying "nandroid". It just said "backup". This is the same I'm assuming as it took quite a while to do???

Ok, never mind. Apparently I'm trying to flash that older version and it keeps coming back with an error.

Worked for me.
I restore a 2.x.x backup trough 3.x.x and had CWM 2.x.x then after I backed up some apps with titanium backup I went back to the rom I backed up with 3.x.x and all went fine.
Little confusing but yes I believe you can.
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If you want 2.5 again go to post #7 in this thread. Put the file on your sd and power down into bootloader. It will scan the card then ask if you want to update, hit volume up for yes and you're done. Thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894227

Sweet!!! I just flashed back to the older 2.5.x.x CWM and then flashed a ROM with no problems at all. The only thing that's weird is that ROM Manager still says I have CWM 3.0.0.2.

[Q] Any modified CWM recovery or alternate to it?

I've CWM 6.0.2.3 installed.But i think it needs some kind of improvement.To select an option, we need to double touch that option.One for selecting and second for confirmation.This is because there would be less chance u select any other option rather that u want.Example is PhilZ recovery is the best recovery i used on my GNote..
Also, i want to know that which recovery (CWM or TWRP) is the best recovery for Gnex ?I heard TWRP is best alternative for CWM.
Thirdly, I used to restore my call logs and sms through Titanium Backup from CWM backup earlier.But the CWM backup format has now been changed.Instead of creating "backup" folder, contents are now saved in several folders called "blobs".So m left with no option to restore sms from newer CWM backup.
Any solutions or ideas??

CWM 6.0.2.3 reverted back to the old TAR format so doesn't use blobs any more unless you tell it to

EddyOS said:
CWM 6.0.2.3 reverted back to the old TAR format so doesn't use blobs any more unless you tell it to
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what about TWRP recovery?and have u used PhilZ recovery?did u noticed any change?

I am rather new at all things android development but keeping that in mind I have easily backed up, wiped, flashed, installed, and restored no problem using twrp. Tremendously simple to download, install, and use with no hiccups along the way
I would check some videos out on twrp you might find it useful in your decision making on which recovery to use
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MIKEYSAKZ said:
I am rather new at all things android development but keeping that in mind I have easily backed up, wiped, flashed, installed, and restored no problem using twrp. Tremendously simple to download, install, and use with no hiccups along the way
I would check some videos out on twrp you might find it useful in your decision making on which recovery to use
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ya..ur rite..i haven't used twrp till now but i heard its better than cwm..so m surely gonna give it a try

mannyvinny said:
what about TWRP recovery?and have u used PhilZ recovery?did u noticed any change?
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TWRP - I don't like it personally, I always use CWM. PhilZ? Never heard of it...

EddyOS said:
TWRP - I don't like it personally, I always use CWM. PhilZ? Never heard of it...
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philZ made modified CWM recovery for devices like S2 and GNote..

mannyvinny said:
philZ made modified CWM recovery for devices like S2 and GNote..
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As far that I know of PhilZ only makes recovery for Exynos-based device, like the original Note, there's no PhilZ for the Gnex. TWRP has all the thing that you've said earlier (And IMHO, more user friendly), but backups aren't interchangeable between the two. So you'll have to get rid of those blobs.

[Q] No Backups Found

I made a backup and flashed a custom ROM yesterday. I then restored to the backup. Today I tried a new ROM aosp 4.4, but I didn't backup before flashing the rom, thinking that I still had the backup from yesterday to fall back to, and I didn't really use my phone after restoring yesterday. Now in Rom Manager under "Manage and Restore Backups" It reads "No Backups Found." Am I hosed? Or is there any way to recover my old backup?
All I really want is my numbers I don't think I ever synced to my google account. I also still haven't figured out how to activate the phone in the new rom, but I'm sure I can find that in FAQ
Thanks in advance for your help.

Aosp roms do not have activation settings. Only stock ROMs do. And depending on your recovery, new ones can read your SD after using 4.2+ ROMs, but old ones can't. You still have the backup but since you flashed a 4.4 ROM you now have an 0 directory and the recovery reads that as your main storage. You need to flash a 4.1 ROM or move everything to the 0 folder. Either that or just update your recovery.
-Whiplashh
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Whiplashh said:
Aosp roms do not have activation settings. Only stock ROMs do. And depending on your recovery, new ones can read your SD after using 4.2+ ROMs, but old ones can't.
You still have the backup but since you flashed a 4.4 ROM you now have an 0 directory and the recovery reads that as your main storage. You need to flash a 4.1 ROM or move everything to the 0 folder. Either that or just update your recovery.
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Thanks Wiplashh
I am not quite clear on what all of the pieces are.
my Rom Manager shows:
Current Reovery: ClockworkMod 6.0.4.5
Latest Recoery: ClockworkMod 6.0.3.8
ClockworkMod Touch is available!
When I go to Update Recovery it asks if I have installed a ClockworkMod Recovery manually. Do I need to do this?
If I flash a 4.1 rom will my yesterday's backup be available in my rom manager? Is that what you are saying? This is my priority, over my activation.
Thanks,
Marshall

SmashFace said:
Thanks Wiplashh
I am not quite clear on what all of the pieces are.
my Rom Manager shows:
Current Reovery: ClockworkMod 6.0.4.5
Latest Recoery: ClockworkMod 6.0.3.8
ClockworkMod Touch is available!
When I go to Update Recovery it asks if I have installed a ClockworkMod Recovery manually. Do I need to do this?
If I flash a 4.1 rom will my yesterday's backup be available in my rom manager? Is that what you are saying? This is my priority, over my activation.
Thanks,
Marshall
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I'm not very familiar with Rom Manager but from the current recovery/latest recovery you posted it seems that the latest recovery according to rom manager is 6.0.3.8, but you have a newer version than that currently installed. I think that's why it's asking if you did it manually. Your current backup should be located at /data/media/clockworkmod. You want to copy that to data/media/0/clockworkmod. Use a root file explorer of your choosing to navigate to where your old backup is, copy it and move it that location and it should pop up. Most file managers open to internal storage(which is currently your 0 folder) by default, just go to the root of your file system and you will see the /data/ folder Im talking about. Hope this helps!

SmashFace said:
Thanks Wiplashh
I am not quite clear on what all of the pieces are.
my Rom Manager shows:
Current Reovery: ClockworkMod 6.0.4.5
Latest Recoery: ClockworkMod 6.0.3.8
ClockworkMod Touch is available!
When I go to Update Recovery it asks if I have installed a ClockworkMod Recovery manually. Do I need to do this?
If I flash a 4.1 rom will my yesterday's backup be available in my rom manager? Is that what you are saying? This is my priority, over my activation.
Thanks,
Marshall
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With that recovery, It should still read it unless you moved it / renamed it from data/media/clockworkmod.
HPTesla said:
I'm not very familiar with Rom Manager but from the current recovery/latest recovery you posted it seems that the latest recovery according to rom manager is 6.0.3.8, but you have a newer version than that currently installed. I think that's why it's asking if you did it manually. Your current backup should be located at /data/media/clockworkmod. You want to copy that to data/media/0/clockworkmod. Use a root file explorer of your choosing to navigate to where your old backup is, copy it and move it that location and it should pop up. Most file managers open to internal storage(which is currently your 0 folder) by default, just go to the root of your file system and you will see the /data/ folder Im talking about. Hope this helps!
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This^

still stuck
Whiplashh said:
With that recovery, It should still read it unless you moved it / renamed it from data/media/clockworkmod.
This^
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Thanks for all the help.
When I install a root file manager from the web it doesn't show-up on my phone. This is the case for any apps I try to install. For this reason, I am using my PC to browse the files.
My internal storage has no "data" directory. It has a "clockworkmod" directory and a "0" directory, and also a "0/clockworkmod".
The images I found that I believe are my backup were located in my Freegee directory. When I copy them to 0/clockworkmod they don't show up when I try to restore from Rom Manager.
Any thoughts?

I'm experiencing a similar issue using the mako CWM from freegee. In addition to not seeing my backups, my storage is being devoured by an "emulated 0/ legacy folder". Is this safe to delete?
Also, it seems the recovery is reading from device/data/media/cwm and not from storage 0 or storage/emulated 0. I actually copied a backup to device/data/media in order to flash it.
I guess what I need is info on what I can safely do in file explorer to get back on track.
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SmashFace said:
Thanks for all the help.
When I install a root file manager from the web it doesn't show-up on my phone. This is the case for any apps I try to install. For this reason, I am using my PC to browse the files.
My internal storage has no "data" directory. It has a "clockworkmod" directory and a "0" directory, and also a "0/clockworkmod".
The images I found that I believe are my backup were located in my Freegee directory. When I copy them to 0/clockworkmod they don't show up when I try to restore from Rom Manager.
Any thoughts?
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Ok, I'm a bit confused here. Are you still using AOSP 4.4? Did you flash Gapps? Just wondering why you are installing from the web instead of the play store(maybe you just meant play store when you said web). Since you are browsing files from your pc Internal Storage IS /data/media. If you were using a file manager with root on your phone you would be able to see files that don't normally show up on your computer. Thats the system root directory. But the important part is that /data/media=internal storage, you simply can't see it that way from a pc(at least I can't). If you can see the clockwordmod directory, copy that to 0 so that it replaces 0/clockworkmod and then try to restore your backup. That is the way it should be but I advise checking to see which one of those folders has something in it, and copying it to the empty one. Essentially ONE of the clockworkmod folders should have files, and one shouldn't. If BOTH folders are empty, I don't think you have a cwm backup......
Freegee automatically makes a backup when you run it, but was that your only backup? Again I don't use Rom Manager, but my understanding is if you make a backup with it, it would be in your clockworkmod folder. I wouldn't think it would be in the FreeGee folder. New FreeGee may be different(I know it was recently completely overhauled) but the version I had made backups of very important things but did not automatically make a cwm or twrp backup. Custom recoveries backup your data and system, FreeGee backed up your boot, sbl's, recovery, etc.
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eye_p said:
I'm experiencing a similar issue using the mako CWM from freegee. In addition to not seeing my backups, my storage is being devoured by an "emulated 0/ legacy folder". Is this safe to delete?
Also, it seems the recovery is reading from device/data/media/cwm and not from storage 0 or storage/emulated 0. I actually copied a backup to device/data/media in order to flash it.
I guess what I need is info on what I can safely do in file explorer to get back on track.
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I'm not sure about the emulated 0/legacy folder. What's in it? I just need a bit more info! You said you copied a backup to flash it. I'm assuming it failed? Are you also running AOSP 4.4 or another rom? For me it works like this. If I'm on lg stock or stock based roms my backups are in /data/media/cwm or /data/media/twrp depending on what recovery I am using. If I'm on something like CM or Omni, Carbon, etc it creates a 0 folder located in /data/media and uses that as the sdcard/internal storage. Once that happens that is what the recovery reads from. But are you saying the opposite happened?

Exactly! With the CWM in
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Forgive me. I hit submit by mistake.
What's happening in my case using the CWM is the backups are being saved to the storage 0 folder however, the recovery is reading the device/data/media folder when flashing. I'm running 201211 cm 11 with Banks standard gapps. I came from completely stock/rooted/unlocked zvc. I attempted to use the TWRP mako in freegee but when flash failed I tried the CWM mako and was successful.
As far as the emulated O/legacy its identical to storage 0.
I hope that's enough background. And thanks for your response.
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To clarify further coming from stock I got a failed flash for cm 11 using twrp. I then DL cwm from freegee and wiped all partitions except internal storage, flashed cm 11 and gapps with cwm and was successful except I had no service. In looking for my efs backup I discovered the emulated 0 folder(( storage0/emulated0/freegee/backup)) I moved the efs backup to the root of storage0 but cwm didn't list it. I made a note of what I was able to see in cwm which led me to device/data/media/cwm. I copied the efs to said folder and was then able to view and flash successfully with cwm. I hope that's clearer.
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eye_p said:
Exactly! With the CWM in
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Forgive me. I hit submit by mistake.
What's happening in my case using the CWM is the backups are being saved to the storage 0 folder however, the recovery is reading the device/data/media folder when flashing. I'm running 201211 cm 11 with Banks standard gapps. I came from completely stock/rooted/unlocked zvc. I attempted to use the TWRP mako in freegee but when flash failed I tried the CWM mako and was successful.
As far as the emulated O/legacy its identical to storage 0.
I hope that's enough background. And thanks for your response.
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Lol it's ok, for a second I was confused. When you say you wanna get back on track, what exactly do you want to do? Are you trying to restore your stock backup to clean up and do a clean install of something else? Or are you just trying to restore a backup? And when you say flash failed for TWRP, do you mean installing twrp or flashing cm11 with twrp? CWM is definitely what you needed for that, but if you had twrp first, and made backups with it, they obviously wouldnt work with CWM. If your backups were all made with CWM, just copy the backups to the directory its reading from and it should pop up.
My best advice would be to do a fresh start. Restore your stock backup(hopefully you made one) and then once you are booted back into it, delete the 0 folders. If you see your backups in recovery but restoring them gives you a failed error, I don't know what to tell you there.
And no problem, I ask a lot of questions because the clearer we are with one another, the better I can help!
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eye_p said:
Exactly! With the CWM in
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Forgive me. I hit submit by mistake.
What's happening in my case using the CWM is the backups are being saved to the storage 0 folder however, the recovery is reading the device/data/media folder when flashing. I'm running 201211 cm 11 with Banks standard gapps. I came from completely stock/rooted/unlocked zvc. I attempted to use the TWRP mako in freegee but when flash failed I tried the CWM mako and was successful.
As far as the emulated O/legacy its identical to storage 0.
I hope that's enough background. And thanks for your response.
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To clarify further coming from stock I got a failed flash for cm 11 using twrp. I then DL cwm from freegee and wiped all partitions except internal storage, flashed cm 11 and gapps with cwm and was successful except I had no service. In looking for my efs backup I discovered the emulated 0 folder(( storage0/emulated0/freegee/backup)) I moved the efs backup to the root of storage0 but cwm didn't list it. I made a note of what I was able to see in cwm which led me to device/data/media/cwm. I copied the efs to said folder and was then able to view and flash successfully with cwm. I hope that's clearer.
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Oh ok sorry I didnt see the last reply. Can you tell me what was in the freegee/backup folder? I think the new freegee is pretty different....my version of freegee backed up efs, but they were named differently if I backed them up with twrp.
But the fact remains that if your stock backup was twrp, you cant restore that with cwm. If you want to go back to stock to start over, you have to flash twrp again.
And are you also using rom manager or doing this manually?

Lol! I'm willing to answer all questions that lead to good answers.
I flashed TWRP with no problem. Using twrp i made a backup and flashed cm11 but failed. I then rebooted system opened freegee and got the cwm mako, did another backup, rewiped, and flashed cm 11 and gapps successfully. When I booted into system I had no service and went to flash the efs backup I made which is what sent me on my goose chase. Hahaha!
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eye_p said:
Lol! I'm willing to answer all questions that lead to good answers.
I flashed TWRP with no problem. Using twrp i made a backup and flashed cm11 but failed. I then rebooted system opened freegee and got the cwm mako, did another backup, rewiped, and flashed cm 11 and gapps successfully. When I booted into system I had no service and went to flash the efs backup I made which is what sent me on my goose chase. Hahaha!
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Yeah a lot of people failed flashing cm11 with TWRP. What did you back up efs with, freegee? The only recovery Ive used that showed EFS as a backup option was TWRP 2.5.0.0. Newer TWRP didnt for me(but that may not have been the twrp from this version of FreeGee). I've only used CWM once on this phone to try cm11, but I flashed back to TWRP and my daily driver backup.

As far as the freegee/backup folder it contains the efs backups I made with twrp and cwm as well as the twrp and cwm mako zips and a bunch of boot image files.
My goal initially was to make sure I can flash back to my stock image which you have answered.
My next thing is that this emulated0 folder, which is identical to storage0 is taking up all of my storage space and I want to know if deleting it will muck things up.
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eye_p said:
As far as the freegee/backup folder it contains the efs backups I made with twrp and cwm as well as the twrp and cwm mako zips and a bunch of boot image files.
My goal initially was to make sure I can flash back to my stock image which you have answered.
My next thing is that this emulated0 folder, which is identical to storage0 is taking up all of my storage space and I want to know if deleting it will muck things up.
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If you flash back to stock, the answer to that is no. Flash back to stock then just delete the whole 0 folder. Stock uses data/media/, AOSP/CM based uses /data/media/0. So storage 0 and emulated 0 can both go once you are back in stock.

That makes sense. I'll give it a whirl and post results. I'll flash back to twrp recovery, flash my stock backup and try to clean up my sd card. I'm using es file explorer btw.
Thank you for all of the quick fire responses, especially for a Saturday night.
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eye_p said:
That makes sense. I'll give it a whirl and post results. I'll flash back to twrp recovery, flash my stock backup and try to clean up my sd card. I'm using es file explorer btw.
Thank you for all of the quick fire responses, especially for a Saturday night.
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Haha, no prob. Just happened to be around tonight! Good luck!

HPTesla said:
Ok, I'm a bit confused here. Are you still using AOSP 4.4? Did you flash Gapps? Just wondering why you are installing from the web instead of the play store(maybe you just meant play store when you said web). Since you are browsing files from your pc Internal Storage IS /data/media. If you were using a file manager with root on your phone you would be able to see files that don't normally show up on your computer. Thats the system root directory. But the important part is that /data/media=internal storage, you simply can't see it that way from a pc(at least I can't). If you can see the clockwordmod directory, copy that to 0 so that it replaces 0/clockworkmod and then try to restore your backup. That is the way it should be but I advise checking to see which one of those folders has something in it, and copying it to the empty one. Essentially ONE of the clockworkmod folders should have files, and one shouldn't. If BOTH folders are empty, I don't think you have a cwm backup......
Freegee automatically makes a backup when you run it, but was that your only backup? Again I don't use Rom Manager, but my understanding is if you make a backup with it, it would be in your clockworkmod folder. I wouldn't think it would be in the FreeGee folder. New FreeGee may be different(I know it was recently completely overhauled) but the version I had made backups of very important things but did not automatically make a cwm or twrp backup. Custom recoveries backup your data and system, FreeGee backed up your boot, sbl's, recovery, etc.
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I'm not sure about the emulated 0/legacy folder. What's in it? I just need a bit more info! You said you copied a backup to flash it. I'm assuming it failed? Are you also running AOSP 4.4 or another rom? For me it works like this. If I'm on lg stock or stock based roms my backups are in /data/media/cwm or /data/media/twrp depending on what recovery I am using. If I'm on something like CM or Omni, Carbon, etc it creates a 0 folder located in /data/media and uses that as the sdcard/internal storage. Once that happens that is what the recovery reads from. But are you saying the opposite happened?
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Still using AOSP 4.4.
I don't have play store so I tried to get apps off web. I don't know why I don't have play store, I would assume it would come with the custom rom, but one of my main problems now is I can't add any apps additional what came with the rom.
The data/media thing makes sense, but I still can't get a file viewer because I cant get apps to show up.
I have copied every image file I can find on my phone into the clockworkmod folder and still my rom manager doesn't see any back-ups. several of these images are actually called "backup." I am pretty sure though that none of them were in the clockworkmod folder origonally. How do I flash the Freegee backup?
I think my main bottleneck right now is getting any apps to install. any thoughts.
Thanks a lot.

SmashFace said:
Still using AOSP 4.4.
I don't have play store so I tried to get apps off web. I don't know why I don't have play store, I would assume it would come with the custom rom, but one of my main problems now is I can't add any apps additional what came with the rom.
The data/media thing makes sense, but I still can't get a file viewer because I cant get apps to show up.
I have copied every image file I can find on my phone into the clockworkmod folder and still my rom manager doesn't see any back-ups. several of these images are actually called "backup." I am pretty sure though that none of them were in the clockworkmod folder origonally. How do I flash the Freegee backup?
I think my main bottleneck right now is getting any apps to install. any thoughts.
Thanks a lot.
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Install 4.4 Gapps Standard the same way you installed AOSP 4.4. Links/directions should be in the thread where you got the rom. EDIT: If you installed 4.4 via rom manager, dont install gapps that way. Actually reboot into recovery and install the gapps zip file. Just wipe cache and dalvik then install gapps. Im not sure why you cant install apps. If it's from the web, you may need to enable "Install from unknown sources" under security. But if you already have, Im not sure. May be a rom/bad flash issue.
I should have said this before, stop using rom manager. Apps like that seem like they make things easier, but then something like this happens. One size fits all apps of any kind can have issues depending on model of phone. It's not difficult to reboot into recovery and make/restore your backups that way. Its far less likely that something will go wrong or get lost. Just food for thought moving forward.
You've already restored the backup once so it should be there, but if neither of the clockworkmod folders had anything in them, that's not a good sign......
I believe you flash the freegee backup from freegee itself. There should be a "restore with backups option. But again, it's not the same kind of backup you get with twrp or cwm. Those recoveries make nandroid backups which is your major system components i.e, your system and data from whatever rom you're using/apps you have at the time. Depending on the recovery they may back up EFS, cache, boot, etc. FreeGee backs up boot, efs partitions and sbl partitions. I've never seen CWM or TWRP touch the sbl, but if you lose the sbl, you lose download mode(which is the ONLY way to fix your phone if something goes horribly wrong!). Maybe new FreeGee is different, but the older version of the app's backup was meant to get you back where you could flash something, a backup, new rom, etc - but didnt just make a nandroid of your current working rom.
Some of this post may help you as well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050582

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Install 4.4 Gapps Standard the same way you installed AOSP 4.4. [/url]
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Looking for this but can't seem to find it. If you could point me to this rom for ls970 I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

SmashFace said:
Looking for this but can't seem to find it. If you could point me to this rom for ls970 I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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It's in this 4.4 port for the ls970 thread. Scroll down to the directions. You'll see it say Install Rom, Flash Gapps with a link to Banks gapps. Gapps=Google Apps. You usually have to flash that separately with roms to get things like the play store app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515345

[Q] Galaxy S3 I747M Rogers ROM unlocked and rooted How to Backup ROM to SD?

Guys,
I rooted GS3 using CFroot and Odin, SuperSU is running. I have i747m Rogers canadian version. How do I backup the current ROM?
I downloaded 'stock' ROM from SamMobile I747MVLUFNF2 for backup purpose. There is so many posts and videos everywhere on how to do backup of current ROM and I am very confused, and dont want to mess this phone up. I downloaded ROM Manager but when I boot into recover mode I dont have option to backup ROM, only restore from SD, reset, restore from flash, wipe cache , there is no backup option. I pulled the battery out and tried many times it did not see backup ROM option.
This is what I want to do, what is the best aproach ?
1. How to backup current Rooted ROM to sdcard, so I can recover if required. ROM Manager I have on the phone is v5.5.3.7. I watched video on galaxys3root.com but he used 9300 GS3 from different carrier.
2. I want to try a new ROM give the phone new life, with all functions working including front camera. WHich ROM do you recommend for my phone?
I also installed ROM Manager, Titanium Backup, Terminal Emulator, Nandroid Manager, and BusyBox. Not sure if I need these apps, but they are there.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,

Install the latest version of Philz Touch or TWRP for the d2lte, boot into recovery, create a backup and save it to your external SD card and computer.

Thank you.
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Install the latest version of Philz Touch or TWRP for the d2lte, boot into recovery, create a backup and save it to your external SD card and computer.
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Thanks! Philz Rocks, it is exactly what I was looking for !
I loaded Philz Touch 6.48 for d2lte, and it worked great. Did full backup and I am ready to flash.
DO I NEED to keep ROM Manager for anything ?

PabisPL said:
Thanks! Philz Rocks, it is exactly what I was looking for !
I loaded Philz Touch 6.48 for d2lte, and it worked great. Did full backup and I am ready to flash.
DO I NEED to keep ROM Manager for anything ?
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I don't use ROM manager. I just flash a custom ROM and a quick reboot app which gives me the option to boot into download mode, power off, reboot system, or reboot into recovery.

Thanks.
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I don't use ROM manager. I just flash a custom ROM and a quick reboot app which gives me the option to boot into download mode, power off, reboot system, or reboot into recovery.
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Hi audit13,
1. how do I copy backup from SD to computer. These are hidden on SD card and not visible even to Android? Is there a trick to it?
2. Which ROM do you recommend for Galaxy S3 i747m (original Rogers now unlocked), so all the functions work well and stable on the phone? I was interested in CM11 Nightly.
This is ALL new to me, first time doing it.
Thanks again for you answers,

PabisPL said:
Hi audit13,
1. how do I copy backup from SD to computer. These are hidden on SD card and not visible even to Android? Is there a trick to it?
This is ALL new to me, first time doing it.
Thanks again for you answers,
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Both CWM and TWRP recoveries create a directory in /sdcard named either clockworkmod or TWRP and store the backups in a subdirectory. It is likely that PHILZ does the same. There may even be an option to store the backup to the external sdcard at the time of creation.

TWRP stores the backup in a folder called \TWRP\Backups\serial#ofphone\name of folder.
I'm not sure about CWM as I don't have a phone with CWM at the moment.
I run the Liquidsmooth milestone on a Nexus4 and Moto G because I love the dark theme.

I have a device on TWRP and another on CWM, I just didn't bother with the full path because he is on PHILZ, as you recommended, and I could not check that path.

Philz Touch to TWRP recovery migration.
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I have a device on TWRP and another on CWM, I just didn't bother with the full path because he is on PHILZ, as you recommended, and I could not check that path.
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Thanks to you guys, I have successfully converted GS3 stock Samsung 4.4.3 GS3 (rogers unlocked) to Philz Touch with CM11 rom, works great on Bell (Virgin) network.
But I have a question;
I would like to try TWRP If I want to switch from Philz to TWRP recovery instead, how much is involved to make a switch? Which recovery is more popular and better supported?
Is it as simple as flashing in Odin proper twrp .tar file for my d2lte?
Thanks.

If there is a flash able zip for twrp, you can boot into philz and flash it.
Any backups made with philz cannot be restored with twrp.
I tried twrp and switched to philz due to issues I had flashing custom roms with twrp.
I don't have my i747m because I have it to a relative in May so support has probably improved with newer versions of twrp.

Philz Touch to TWRP recovery migration.
I flashed TWRP over Philz Touch using Odin. I am going to wait until newer CM11 nightly comes out to test it, but Philz seems more intuitive to me. I can always flash back to restore backups I made with Philz Touch.
Thanks.

[Q] Need some adivse PLEASE!!!!

So this is the situation,
I have SPH-l710 Rooted with CWM, I THOUGHT I made a backup of my stock system.....It made a image.zip and an image directory. SOOOO I flashed the phone with CM121...........In light of all the issues I could not get my camera to work with any app, them CM121 updated, Google play got stuck in a error force close loop that could only be avoided by logging into a separate user account on lollipop. Which is where the camera began to work oddly enough. Anyways I use my camera constantly and wanted to revert back to my 4.4.2 kitkat. SOOOO I booted into recovery and when I selected restore it couldnt find anything. So I installed from the image.zip and everything appeared to be fine EXECPT I couldnt get passed the second samsung logo right after the animation. Just stuck........How can I restore my poor phone back to my system image I have saved?
I tried this multiple times, then just reloaded CM121. PLEASE HELP!!!!!
the wipe/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik x 3

You could Odin back to stock. What modem are you on? (Ex. nj3, nd8, etc)

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You could Odin back to stock. What modem are you on? (Ex. nj3, nd8, etc)
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L710VPUCNJ3
I did find an image.zip and an image directory with my full phone backup i assume minus the damn splash screen that started this whole thing in the first place. Would I just use odin to flash the image.zip file to restore my original os or would I use CMW and install from zip and use the image.zip file?
And thank you for replying, it's hard to get anyone to help sometimes.

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I did find an image.zip and an image directory with my full phone backup i assume minus the damn splash screen that started this whole thing in the first place. Would I just use odin to flash the image.zip file to restore my original os or would I use CMW and install from zip and use the image.zip file?
And thank you for replying, it's hard to get anyone to help sometimes.
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If you Odin to stock, you need a computer. You download the program (sadly Odin is leaked software so it's pretty shady; you could give Heimdall a shot but it didn't work for me, also Odin is Windows only and Heimdall is cross-platform) and then you download a .tar of a stock image and you plug your phone in in download mode and flash it.
However, there is no nj3 modem so you need to use an older one. Is your phone sprint, Virgin Mobile, boost, etc?
Edit: give this thread a look for info on stock .tars http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3121212
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Here's a good thread on instructions for flashing the ndc modem. If you use sprint, flashing nj2 should be the same process, just a different .tar. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2774333

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If you Odin to stock, you need a computer. You download the program (sadly Odin is leaked software so it's pretty shady; you could give Heimdall a shot but it didn't work for me, also Odin is Windows only and Heimdall is cross-platform) and then you download a .tar of a stock image and you plug your phone in in download mode and flash it.
However, there is no nj3 modem so you need to use an older one. Is your phone sprint, Virgin Mobile, boost, etc?
Edit: give this thread a look for info on stock .tars http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3121212
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I have Odin already from when I flashed cmw 6+ to the phone, but before I installed cm12.1 I used clockworkmod and made a backup image. It created a image.zip file, will this contain my original stock but rooted image?

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I have Odin already from when I flashed cmw 6+ to the phone, but before I installed cm12.1 I used clockworkmod and made a backup image. It created a image.zip file, will this contain my original stock but rooted image?
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I would assume so, however, I'm not sure. I've only used TWRP and a little Philz for recovery. Afraid I can't help you there, but someone else (or Google lol) might know

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I would assume so, however, I'm not sure. I've only used TWRP and a little Philz for recovery. Afraid I can't help you there, but someone else (or Google lol) might know
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OK I understand thanks, one more thing if I assume its a full backup of the phone would Odin be better to restore with or use whatever software created the backup?

aanddink said:
OK I understand thanks, one more thing if I assume its a full backup of the phone would Odin be better to restore with or use whatever software created the backup?
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I think Odin can only flash tars. Ideally, you'd want to restore the backup with the software that made it.

aanddink said:
I have Odin already from when I flashed cmw 6+ to the phone, but before I installed cm12.1 I used clockworkmod and made a backup image. It created a image.zip file, will this contain my original stock but rooted image?
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Cwm recovery does not create zip files. If you made a full backup in cwm it should contain system, data, and boot img files. Restore it in cwm recovery.
But to go back to KitKat from lollipop you must wipe internal storage in clockworkmod recovery first .(if that's the recovery you are using).
By the way cwm is pretty crappy. After you fix it, install twrp recovery.

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Cwm recovery does not create zip files. If you made a full backup in cwm it should contain system, data, and boot img files. Restore it in cwm recovery.
But to go back to KitKat from lollipop you must wipe internal storage in clockworkmod recovery first .(if that's the recovery you are using).
By the way cwm is pretty crappy. After you fix it, install twrp recovery.
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Thanks for the reply, been tryin to get help for a while. So my version of CMW has the option to create an image backup & also create the same backup in zip format. Inside the zip and inside the image directory they have the boot img files and the system data and ect. I have 2 questions, 1 is what part of the internal storage needs to be wiped? I assume you mean format the system directory? which would wipe the os out at that point? And second since I have cmw installed if I wanted to put twrp on and not wipe the system yet would I need to just use odin and flash it to overwrite cmw? I installed cmw with odin to root the phone originally, cmw is not restoring my backups at all correctly so I would love something that would really work.

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Thanks for the reply, been tryin to get help for a while. So my version of CMW has the option to create an image backup & also create the same backup in zip format. Inside the zip and inside the image directory they have the boot img files and the system data and ect. I have 2 questions, 1 is what part of the internal storage needs to be wiped? I assume you mean format the system directory? which would wipe the os out at that point? And second since I have cmw installed if I wanted to put twrp on and not wipe the system yet would I need to just use odin and flash it to overwrite cmw? I installed cmw with odin to root the phone originally, cmw is not restoring my backups at all correctly so I would love something that would really work.
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By wiping internal storage, I mean internal sd card (data/media) not system.
If you cannot restore your backup, and are not worried about losing your data, I would recommend using odin to flash the whole stock .tar and starting fresh from scratch. Then re root by using odin to install twrp.
If you are on boost or virgin Mobile use the ndc tar.

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By wiping internal storage, I mean internal sd card (data/media) not system.
If you cannot restore your backup, and are not worried about losing your data, I would recommend using odin to flash the whole stock .tar and starting fresh from scratch. Then re root by using odin to install twrp.
If you are on boost or virgin Mobile use the ndc tar.
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Thanks for the info, I will look into the tar I just need to make sure it's compatible with NJ3 and I am on Virgin mobile. I attached a snapshot of the file cmw created, Im pretty sure I saw a post on how to convert that into a flash-able tar file by combining them into one. That backup is clean except for a screwy boot splash screen and being rooted but besides that it was the first backup. Do you know if twrp has any issues with CM12.1? If I can flash my backup and un-root I would be able to start from scratch and do it the right way this time. I attached the snapshot just for your opinion on if I can use my backup from my phone if you dont mind, also to install twrp if I can use my backup I would need to unroot then re-root with twrp correct? Any thanks so much for the responses

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Thanks for the info, I will look into the tar I just need to make sure it's compatible with NJ3 and I am on Virgin mobile. I attached a snapshot of the file cmw created, Im pretty sure I saw a post on how to convert that into a flash-able tar file by combining them into one. That backup is clean except for a screwy boot splash screen and being rooted but besides that it was the first backup. Do you know if twrp has any issues with CM12.1? If I can flash my backup and un-root I would be able to start from scratch and do it the right way this time. I attached the snapshot just for your opinion on if I can use my backup from my phone if you dont mind, also to install twrp if I can use my backup I would need to unroot then re-root with twrp correct? Any thanks so much for the responses
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If you put that back on your phone in the clockworkmod folder just restore it? If you flash the ndc tar in odin you will be stock unrooted. Ndc is the build before nj3. There is no nj3 tar so ndc is fine. If you manage to restore your backup and get going, you can just get the app flashify from the play store to install twrp. Get the image file of twrp 2.8.7.0 for sprint (d2spr) and install in flashify. Get it from twrp website.
Your backup only has system in it, it has no data. Next time do a full backup. System, data, and boot. You're trying to go from cm12.1 lollipop to KitKat touchwiz without a data wipe and restore. Won't work.
Honestly dude, you seem to have limited knowledge on this. Don't take that the wrong way at all. To save us both some time and get your phone working, just follow this
It's fine to flash over nj3. I'm on virgin Mobile and I've done it a couple times. Also do a factory reset to wipe data. Also wipe internal storage (data/media).

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If you put that back on your phone in the clockworkmod folder just restore it? If you flash the ndc tar in odin you will be stock unrooted. Ndc is the build before nj3. There is no nj3 tar so ndc is fine. If you manage to restore your backup and get going, you can just get the app flashify from the play store to install twrp. Get the image file of twrp 2.8.7.0 for sprint (d2spr) and install in flashify. Get it from twrp website.
Your backup only has system in it, it has no data. Next time do a full backup. System, data, and boot. You're trying to go from cm12.1 lollipop to KitKat touchwiz without a data wipe and restore. Won't work.
Honestly dude, you seem to have limited knowledge on this. Don't take that the wrong way at all. To save us both some time and get your phone working, just follow this
It's fine to flash over nj3. I'm on virgin Mobile and I've done it a couple times. Also do a factory reset to wipe data. Also wipe internal storage (data/media).
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Not taken the wrong way, I am limited knowledge on the subject and that's why I ended up with problems. I appreciate the help since I could not get anyone to respond.

madbat99 said:
If you put that back on your phone in the clockworkmod folder just restore it? If you flash the ndc tar in odin you will be stock unrooted. Ndc is the build before nj3. There is no nj3 tar so ndc is fine. If you manage to restore your backup and get going, you can just get the app flashify from the play store to install twrp. Get the image file of twrp 2.8.7.0 for sprint (d2spr) and install in flashify. Get it from twrp website.
Your backup only has system in it, it has no data. Next time do a full backup. System, data, and boot. You're trying to go from cm12.1 lollipop to KitKat touchwiz without a data wipe and restore. Won't work.
Honestly dude, you seem to have limited knowledge on this. Don't take that the wrong way at all. To save us both some time and get your phone working, just follow this
It's fine to flash over nj3. I'm on virgin Mobile and I've done it a couple times. Also do a factory reset to wipe data. Also wipe internal storage (data/media).
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I appreciate the link, understand the process. Just wondering the link to the .tar file is broken (at least for the moment) I will continue to try it, do you know if the zip file from samsung-updates " L710VPUDND8 firmware version for Galaxy S 3 LTE (Sprint) "
will work also?

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I appreciate the link, understand the process. Just wondering the link to the .tar file is broken (at least for the moment) I will continue to try it, do you know if the zip file from samsung-updates " L710VPUDND8 firmware version for Galaxy S 3 LTE (Sprint) "
will work also?
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Nd8 will work, however nj2 is the sprint equivalent to nj3 (latest update). It works fine. It's the last one I used. You may need to do the dialer activation code to get service working after you flash. I think it's ##72786# . I'll check.
here is nj2.