So - I am highly invested in Google music due to the convenience, and I just put a high quality audio system in my 2007 Acura MDX.
I really can't stand apple but, their ipod integration is just everywhere - and I hate it. When I hear music from an ipod I know its a digital connection & it sounds fantastic - just like a cd - its digital direct audio.
Unfortunately, when you stream audio through your headphone jack - its an analog system and so your audio quality is greatly degraded.
Is there ANYTHING at all out there that I can use to get the google music from my Phone to my car system to sound like an ipod?
EyeAndroid said:
So - I am highly invested in Google music due to the convenience, and I just put a high quality audio system in my 2007 Acura MDX.
I really can't stand apple but, their ipod integration is just everywhere - and I hate it. When I hear music from an ipod I know its a digital connection & it sounds fantastic - just like a cd - its digital direct audio.
Unfortunately, when you stream audio through your headphone jack - its an analog system and so your audio quality is greatly degraded.
Is there ANYTHING at all out there that I can use to get the google music from my Phone to my car system to sound like an ipod?
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Why are you so invested in Google Music? Google Music is your first culprit. Have you considered Neutron player? It offers streaming audio and processes the audio at 32/64 bits. It sounds like a blanket have been lifted from my speakers when comparing the sound to google music. It offers much more depth and clarity. If you don't like the UI of it, you can try Power Amp( its still an improvement of Google Music.) Also, You should also check out Ac!d Sound Mod. It really helps to clean up the signal and results in a more natural, less distorted sound. What format is your music in? I have completely retired from the MP3 world and switched to Flac. I don't know if you're familiar with the format, but its Lossless audio, so theres no audio degradation from the original recording. It takes up more space, so its recommended you get a 32 or 64GB Micro SD card, but the difference can be heard immediately. I honestly dont know how I ever listened to MP3 for so long. Even at 320Kbps theres a big difference.
Heres a link to Ac!d Sound Mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002197
EyeAndroid said:
So - I am highly invested in Google music due to the convenience, and I just put a high quality audio system in my 2007 Acura MDX.
I really can't stand apple but, their ipod integration is just everywhere - and I hate it. When I hear music from an ipod I know its a digital connection & it sounds fantastic - just like a cd - its digital direct audio.
Unfortunately, when you stream audio through your headphone jack - its an analog system and so your audio quality is greatly degraded.
Is there ANYTHING at all out there that I can use to get the google music from my Phone to my car system to sound like an ipod?
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Well, I would recommend a bluetooth capable stereo for your car. I have one in my car, and when my car starts up, Google music automatically starts playing. It displays Artist, Track, and Album info etc to the head unit in my car (which is great), and I can skip tracks from the stereo without even removing the phone from my pocket.
Once I arrive at my destination, the music is automatically paused. The quality is much better than what come out of the audio output on my phone...my Galaxy Nexus has a cheap DAC, so streaming over bluetooth bypasses the DAC and sends the digital stream to your car stereo's DAC instead....
bekyndnunwind said:
Well, I would recommend a bluetooth capable stereo for your car. I have one in my car, and when my car starts up, Google music automatically starts playing. It displays Artist, Track, and Album info etc to the head unit in my car (which is great), and I can skip tracks from the stereo without even removing the phone from my pocket.
Once I arrive at my destination, the music is automatically paused. The quality is much better than what come out of the audio output on my phone...my Galaxy Nexus has a cheap DAC, so streaming over bluetooth bypasses the DAC and sends the digital stream to your car stereo's DAC instead....
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I tried bluetooth audio once and I wasn't impressed, it had less punch, less bass, less everything. Your saying it was better for you?
For me - It may have been a cheap unit, but still bluetooth is bluetooth right?
Has anyone tried an HDMI Digital audio out?
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Why are you so invested in Google Music? Google Music is your first culprit. Have you considered Neutron player? It offers streaming audio and processes the audio at 32/64 bits. It sounds like a blanket have been lifted from my speakers when comparing the sound to google music. It offers much more depth and clarity. If you don't like the UI of it, you can try Power Amp( its still an improvement of Google Music.) Also, You should also check out Ac!d Sound Mod. It really helps to clean up the signal and results in a more natural, less distorted sound. What format is your music in? I have completely retired from the MP3 world and switched to Flac. I don't know if you're familiar with the format, but its Lossless audio, so theres no audio degradation from the original recording. It takes up more space, so its recommended you get a 32 or 64GB Micro SD card, but the difference can be heard immediately. I honestly dont know how I ever listened to MP3 for so long. Even at 320Kbps theres a big difference.
Heres a link to Ac!d Sound Mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002197
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Yea I just tried Neutron player and it is HIDEOUS. I'd really like to keep google music as my primary music player because of the lockscreen integration and the UI & widgets are gorgeous.
Right now I'm starting with the basics, Im downloading an album in FLAC right now, its actually not as bad as I thought, only about double the space. Google music album was about 150 mbs, FLAC was 350 mbs. I thought it was gonna be a gig or 2 & that was gonna be a problem.
Acid is just a kernel & more of an internal software mod right? I could still use google music and see the improvements right?
EyeAndroid said:
Yea I just tried Neutron player and it is HIDEOUS. I'd really like to keep google music as my primary music player because of the lockscreen integration and the UI & widgets are gorgeous.
Right now I'm starting with the basics, Im downloading an album in FLAC right now, its actually not as bad as I thought, only about double the space. Google music album was about 150 mbs, FLAC was 350 mbs. I thought it was gonna be a gig or 2 & that was gonna be a problem.
Acid is just a kernel & more of an internal software mod right? I could still use google music and see the improvements right?
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Acid Sound mod is more of an internal software mod. You can use it with any music player( you just have to be rooted) .Flash V5. Its just a zip file you can flash in TWRP or CWM. Have you tried Poweramp? It has a much better GUI,direct gain controls( gets rid of high level distortion), and a better sound overall. The 10-band EQ in it( compared to Googles 5 band) is also much more useful than google. It comes with themes, lock screens, and widgets that are all customizable. Let me know what you think of Flac.. You're right, the size isnt too bad and the gains are just amazing. Also, have you applied any EQ? I give my Low end a 4-5db boost at 31hz, 2db boost at 62hz, and 1-2db boost at 8k and 16k in my car, to get the best sound out of the kick and fill the mix.
Screenshots of GUI located here:
http://powerampapp.com/features/
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Acid Sound mod is more of an internal software mod. You can use it with any music player( you just have to be rooted) .Flash V5. Its just a zip file you can flash in TWRP or CWM. Have you tried Poweramp? It has a much better GUI,direct gain controls( gets rid of high level distortion), and a better sound overall. The 10-band EQ in it( compared to Googles 5 band) is also much more useful than google. It comes with themes, lock screens, and widgets that are all customizable. Let me know what you think of Flac.. You're right, the size isnt too bad and the gains are just amazing.
Screenshots of GUI located here:
http://powerampapp.com/features/
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Yep poweramp looks great. Gonna try that and im gonna flash acid and see how it goes with my new flac file.
And how about that HDMI digital audio out?
EyeAndroid said:
I tried bluetooth audio once and I wasn't impressed, it had less punch, less bass, less everything. Your saying it was better for you?
For me - It may have been a cheap unit, but still bluetooth is bluetooth right?
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I notice a HUGE improvement using Bluetooth audio over using the line-in on my stereo. But like I said, my phone has a cheap DAC so that is where my limitation lies...
I have not noticed any less punch over Bluetooth, but I do run a custom rom (AOKP) and I believe they have tweaked the Bluetooth audio AVRCPso that it streams at a higher quality than is default on Android.
At first I would load FLAC files onto my phone directly, but when I did a comparison to the 320 MP3s that Google converts to when you upload something to Google Music I could not tell a difference. When I did the comparison my car was turned off sitting in the driveway. Since I couldn't hear any differences in that quiet setting, I knew that i certainly would not be able to tell a difference while I was driving and there was noise pollution.
i LOVE LOVE LOVE bluetooth audio
For acid do I have to physically remove dsp manager with titanium?
bekyndnunwind said:
I notice a HUGE improvement using Bluetooth audio over using the line-in on my stereo. But like I said, my phone has a cheap DAC so that is where my limitation lies...
I have not noticed any less punch over Bluetooth, but I do run a custom rom (AOKP) and I believe they have tweaked the Bluetooth audio AVRCPso that it streams at a higher quality than is default on Android.
At first I would load FLAC files onto my phone directly, but when I did a comparison to the 320 MP3s that Google converts to when you upload something to Google Music I could not tell a difference. When I did the comparison my car was turned off sitting in the driveway. Since I couldn't hear any differences in that quiet setting, I knew that i certainly would not be able to tell a difference while I was driving and there was noise pollution.
i LOVE LOVE LOVE bluetooth audio
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Your bluetooth audio is built in, or its aftermarket? If so what is it?
EyeAndroid said:
Your bluetooth audio is built in, or its aftermarket? If so what is it?
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It's just the factory radio that came in my Mazda 3. I see lots of aftermarket radios with it, but I'm guessing you prob don't want to upgrade your deck if you don't have to...
EyeAndroid said:
I tried bluetooth audio once and I wasn't impressed, it had less punch, less bass, less everything. Your saying it was better for you?
For me - It may have been a cheap unit, but still bluetooth is bluetooth right?
Has anyone tried an HDMI Digital audio out?
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Ive read great reviews about the FiiO E7, but they're almost 100.00 dollars. Im sure the gain is nice, but your battery will drain faster, because your powering an external unit with your phone battery.
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EyeAndroid said:
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I didnt have to remove anything for it to work. just change your EQ settings in sound settings
This has been a nuisance for me ass well. I use Google Music because I have all my music using the cloud. Are you able to set up power amp to play music from there and not stored internally? I was looking into buying an aftermarket deck. Pioneer (deh 6500bt). btw
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chrisram88 said:
This has been a nuisance for me ass well. I use Google Music because I have all my music using the cloud. Are you able to set up power amp to play music from there and not stored internally? I was looking into buying an aftermarket deck. Pioneer (deh 6500bt). btw
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IMO you would not regret that purchase at all!
chrisram88 said:
This has been a nuisance for me ass well. I use Google Music because I have all my music using the cloud. Are you able to set up power amp to play music from there and not stored internally? I was looking into buying an aftermarket deck. Pioneer (deh 6500bt). btw
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The 6500BT is a good buy. When setting it up, read the manual on how to adjust the slope and hz of the three bands. It make a huge difference compared to just Raising and lowering the decibels. Poweramp does not support cloud storage playback...yet. Its still in the works from what i gathered; However, Neutron player is capable of streaming audio file formats like RAM, ASX, PLS and M3U( but I dont believe the pertains to Cloud storage). If cloud playback is really a deal breaker for you, I would consider downloading the modified Acid Beats V2 or Ac!d sound mod V5. This way you can apply a system wide EQ. I've noticed the S3( as well as the other Galaxy Models) Tend to drop off from 50-20hz. So I would compensate there and boost everything above 14Khz 1-2 Db. Hopefully, we'll see cloud integration on poweramp and Neutron soon...until then you could always get an external USB hard drive, format it exfat and use up to 1TB space in your car. You will have to buy a power inverter though, and connect the Ac adapter to it, because USB OTG wont power that big of a drive and just mount it in your car( On my Xmas list)lol. After you get your stereo, you can connect to the USB connector on the front of the stereo and have a permanent 1TB drive( sounds like Heaven) lol
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Ive read great reviews about the FiiO E7, but they're almost 100.00 dollars. Im sure the gain is nice, but your battery will drain faster, because your powering an external unit with your phone battery.
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I didnt have to remove anything for it to work. just change your EQ settings in sound settings
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I've got a fiio e11 I just picked up yesterday and it sounds great but not CD quality, nowhere close.
I assume its because its an analog out with an amplifier. The e7 looks like it will do a digital out. Does the s3 support digital audio out?
Stink in iPod will work with digital audio out and the reviews say its really like CD quality.
Basically exactly what I'm looking for.
Now just to get the digital audio out, how can I?
EyeAndroid said:
I've got a fiio e11 I just picked up yesterday and it sounds great but not CD quality, nowhere close.
I assume its because its an analog out with an amplifier. The e7 looks like it will do a digital out. Does the s3 support digital audio out?
Stink in iPod will work with digital audio out and the reviews say its really like CD quality.
Basically exactly what I'm looking for.
Now just to get the digital audio out, how can I?
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Have you tried connecting your USB Cable into your stereo, using the USB port on your head unit. Essentially, it will be doing the samet hing as connecting an ipod via usb. Ive seen this done with the S2 and S3. Ill attach a link to the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxejnIiuyDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVEpE0QZNKE
mattedwards2686 said:
Have you tried connecting your USB Cable into your stereo, using the USB port on your head unit. Essentially, it will be doing the samet hing as connecting an ipod via usb. Ive seen this done with the S2 and S3. Ill attach a link to the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxejnIiuyDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVEpE0QZNKE
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I don't have a USB input but I guess I could get an adapter for my factory stereo. Haven't watched the video, but I like the sound of that, literally!! If I go USB direct in then in theorie, there is No degredation of audio quality because there is no analog out put or loss.
I can only imagine how good it would sound. Am I on the right track here?
EyeAndroid said:
I don't have a USB input but I guess I could get an adapter for my factory stereo. Haven't watched the video, but I like the sound of that, literally!! If I go USB direct in then in theorie, there is No degredation of audio quality because there is no analog out put or loss.
I can only imagine how good it would sound. Am I on the right track here?
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The other advantage to this method is that you'd be charging all the while. Unfortunately, I couldn't get the USB method working between my S3 and new Kenwood BT HD radio unit. However, the Bluetooth function works great, and I can still charge through the USB port if desired.
mattedwards2686 said:
Have you tried connecting your USB Cable into your stereo, using the USB port on your head unit. Essentially, it will be doing the samet hing as connecting an ipod via usb. Ive seen this done with the S2 and S3. Ill attach a link to the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxejnIiuyDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVEpE0QZNKE
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Think this might be the best bet for me. The pioneer deck comes with both analog and usb so I'm going to try that first then go from there. Thanks guys.
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Hello, anyone have this problem? Im using stock dll7 firmware and stock music player equalizer sometimes resets to default. Furthermore, randomly music hangs for second or less.
EdgaBimbam said:
Hello, anyone have this problem? Im using stock dll7 firmware and stock music player equalizer sometimes resets to default. Furthermore, randomly music hangs for second or less.
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I don't think thats a bug. The equalizer will reset to normal if u detach the earphones, as it works only with earphones (i.e with 3.5mm audio jack).
About skipping/ stuttering music, i've not had this problem except when playing via bluetooth.
Dpk1 said:
I don't think thats a bug. The equalizer will reset to normal if u detach the earphones, as it works only with earphones (i.e with 3.5mm audio jack).
About skipping/ stuttering music, i've not had this problem except when playing via bluetooth.
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As i know and logically if i set rock equalizer then it should stay same till i change to another
EdgaBimbam said:
As i know and logically if i set rock equalizer then it should stay same till i change to another
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Yes, it should if each time you use the audio jack (or bluetooth?) for listening to music (i.e attach headphones & then run the music player). But if you set an equalizer (say rock), then detach headphones & play music via phone inbuilt speakers, then equalizer resets itself to normal. Also, if u set it to rock even without headphones and then end the app, it would reset to normal when played again. I've noticed this on all stock samsung roms so far (currently on latest 4.1.2 India XXDLL4).
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Yes, it should if each time you use the audio jack (or bluetooth?) for listening to music (i.e attach headphones & then run the music player). But if you set an equalizer (say rock), then detach headphones & play music via phone inbuilt speakers, then equalizer resets itself to normal. Also, if u set it to rock even without headphones and then end the app, it would reset to normal when played again. I've noticed this on all stock samsung roms so far (currently on latest 4.1.2 India XXDLL4).
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Yeh but for me it equalizer keep always rock but sound is changed with another equalizer. After i go to equalizer settings, sound is back with right equalizer but it shows always as rock. Thats the problem
EdgaBimbam said:
Yeh but for me it equalizer keep always rock but sound is changed with another equalizer. After i go to equalizer settings, sound is back with right equalizer but it shows always as rock. Thats the problem
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Oh ok. That really seems buggy music player for you! Anyway, try clearing data/ cache of music player & musicFX app using application manager followed by a reboot. Ignore, if you already did that.
Music quality is destroyed when playing music over headphones with music player (eg.google play music). My phone is Nokia 6.1. No problem on YouTube or any other apps. Only music player apps. Music gets very distorted and noisy and very bad. Please help.
have you tried other music player?
Yes
I have tried a lot of music players. It won't work. But there is no problem in playback when music played in file manager. Please suggest a solution. It is a really bad issue for me.
Stypher said:
I have tried a lot of music players. It won't work. But there is no problem in playback when music played in file manager. Please suggest a solution. It is a really bad issue for me.
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maybe the equalizer may be the problem
I have tried the equalizer too. And even turned it off. It doesn't work.
Stypher said:
I have tried the equalizer too. And even turned it off. It doesn't work.
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The only thing that occurs to me is that you try hard reset
Stypher said:
Music quality is destroyed when playing music over headphones with music player (eg.google play music). My phone is Nokia 6.1. No problem on YouTube or any other apps. Only music player apps. Music gets very distorted and noisy and very bad. Please help.
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Same problem