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Hey everyone, I recently got myself a tablet and got quite hooked to emulators. Unfortunately i found it really hard to find a really good gamepad, but two weeks ago I discovered a really good bluetooth gamepad here in China that was made for Windows Mobile devices, but thanks to the Bluez-IME developer it works now since last Sunday with all Android 2.2+ devices.
I made a short video and put it up on Youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLB7zyWrVnY.
I was really surprised by the quality of the pad, I have no delay whatsoever and the internal 450mAh battery lasts me for a few days so far (and can be easily recharged via a microUSB cable).
If anyone is interested I could try to post some from Hong Kong next time when I go there.
Edit: I took a little effort and created a website with all the info regarding the gamepad at http://phonejoy.weebly.com . If you are interested in this gamepad you should check it out.
This controller was made specifically for windows mobile? It came with drivers for winmo? Never heard of that, and I've been searching for a good gamepad for over a year.
I recently discovered the iControlPad. I started a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983160
This is definitely the most versatile and upgradeable bluetooth gamepad ever made. It can be used for any phone, tablet, or computer that uses bluetooth, and has an internal 1350mah battery that can charge your phone or tablet while using it. And it is capable of multiple bluetooth profiles and upgradeable firmware, so it can be made compatible with any current or future device with bluetooth.
There are already many devs putting support for this gamepad in their emulators... yongtz just got his IcontrolPad, so we'll see support in PSX4droid, nes4droid, snes4droid and all his other emulators soon. Already many others already with support. Also, the developer of the GamePro drivers for android is currently adding support in that driver, too. Even without special drivers, it can be put in keyboard mode and it will register its buttons as keyboard buttons, so already all android emulators are already compatible like that, too.
In my thread, there are links to the company and forums that make this gamepad. I've got 2 on their way to me, and I will be posting an unboxing and review as soon as I get it.
Yeah i don't know how long it's been around for. It definitely has drivers for Windows Mobile, from what I know it's based on the MSI BGP-100 so it is pretty easy to make it compatible for all devices that already support the BGP-100.
I am sure the iControlPad is awesome too, especially if you own a phone that works with a clamp. It is kind of pricy though and I can't imagine it to be great if use it with a tablet or a phone connected to a TV. I got this pad for about $25 and probably would ship it for $30 and shipping costs (should be $10-15) if the interest is there.
Hmmm... interesting. How does the build quality seem? Does it seem mass manufactured? Does it come in retail packaging or anything like that? Have you ever seen these sold online? Several months ago I spent countless hours searching for bluetooth gamepads online, even searching many chinese site, and never saw this before.
I see it also has 2 pairs of shoulder buttons... do both pair work individually? the BGP100 only had 1 pair of shoulder buttons.
I might want one of these if I can scrounge enough money up.
The build quality is pretty solid, I wouldn't say it's much different from the original PSX controller I had back in the day. The controller has as said an internal battery, two LEDs (one to show you the Bluetooth connectivity status and one for the charging status), a microUSB port for charging and an automatic standby mode (after around 2 minutes). The pad has an overall 10 buttons (14 if you include the D-PAD), and of course all shoulder buttons work individually. Only thing that's missing in my opinion would be two analog sticks and dual shock, but yeah it's the best I've seen so far around.
The controller is by no means massproduced, they are made by a local Chinese guy here who buys Vinyson (Chinese brand that produces all sorts of gamepads) USB PSX pads and then modifies them to make bluetooth workable. From what he told me, he only makes and sells a few dozen a week. He actually offered me to buy off the blueprints of him, but I don't think the demand would be there to actually mass produce it at the moment.
It works actually fairly easy, you just need to activate the Bluetooth button and select Phonejoy in the device menu of Bluez-IME, pair it with "1234" code and then select the "Phonejoy / Vinyson" driver in Bluez-IME, then select Bluez-IME instead of your usual keyboard IME and then all that's left there is to do is to set the buttons to whatever value you want them to be. Because of that option I've actually been able to make the gamepad work in all -oid emulators, psx4droid, FPSE, and even some Android games like Illusia, Zenonia 1 & 2 and others.
As long a game supports any sort of keyboard input the pad usually works which is pretty cool. The range was pretty good with my phone too, at least 6ft I reckon, though that would only really make sense with a phone connected to the TV OUT. Would be certainly cool once Bluez-IME supports two controllers.
Edit: Oh yeah for what it's worth, he actually sells them in the Vinyson packaging, and the pad came with a microUSB cable and a stand for the joypad (no idea what that's good for).
would you have any contact details for the supplier or a distributor? been looking for one of these for a good wee. pm or reply - whichever you feel is more appropriate.
Can you please hit me up with a contact too, thirru? Thanks!
Oh, so he just uses a bluetooth module from a BT keyboard to make the controller bluetooth. I was looking into building myself a controller this way until I got ahold of a BGP100, which I was planning on using to also make my own modded bt gamepad (probably still will, but it's not as important to me now that I have an iControlpad on its way to me).
Still a pretty good deal for a custom made BT gamepad... it saves a lot of soldering work. You could probably sell some of these on ebay for a little profit.
I'd still be interested in getting one if I can scrounge up the money.... I'm interested in opening it up and seeing exactly how he did it.
Let me know when ever you'd have a chance to pick some more up to ship out, I'm sure I'll take one.
Sorry for the belated resonse guys, been a bit busy these days.
I'll try to set up an eBay page tonight. As said the guy only sells them locally in his shop here. Thing is the shipping costs are ridiculous from China (about $30-35 USD with UPS/DHL/FedEx) so I will buy like 10-15 pads and give them next weekend to my girlfriend to post them from Hong Kong then, where it should be around $10 with Hong Kong airmail.
Alright, I have put a page together on eBay with all the information etc. at http://is.gd/p0FAd0
Sorry for the long shipping, if demand is there I could buy next time a few more and then have a friend in HK handle the shipping that would cut it down to one week instead of two. Because of the eBay charges, shipping, etc it's all in all $45, outside of eBay I could make it probably make it work for $40 I guess. If someone is interested in that, feel free to PM me.
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I don't mean to cut in to your sales, but I don't think you're trying to make a profit anyways. Just wanted to let everyone know I found a similar gamepad selling on ebay for about $25 after shipping. This one can also be used as a USB gamepad also. It's sold from Hong Kong. It should be able to be used just like this gamepad on android or winmo devices, as it's a bluetooth gamepad meant for computer, so it should be no problem with BT keyboard drivers or Game Pro drivers for android.
It says its on sale right now, so in 2 days the price will go up to over $50 after shipping.
Check it out: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Bluetooth-W...t=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item20b8411850
EDIT: On closer look at the listing, I think it's just be a regular Six-Axis BT gamepad meant for the PS3... they have it listed as for a PC though, and don't even mention the playstation. I know regular BT Six-Axis gamepads can be used with the PC with special drivers, but they can't be used with android phones. Unless this is some modified version, which I doubt, the listing was misleading. Sorry to get anyones hopes up... good thing I went back and paid closer attention to the pictures. Sorry everyone.
Yeah I was about to say. I had first tried buying one of the local Playstation Bluetooth gamepads for PC here, but I wasn't able to pair it with my phone unfortunately. Would be sweet though if somebody comes eventually up with a hack that allows Android users to use PS3 gamepads...
The PSX style Bluetooth gamepads of mine have sold out for now unfortunately. I talked to the guy who makes them two days ago and he said he will need at least two weeks to make the next batch, but this time I asked him to make 30, which should hopefully be finished by the first week of May.
thirru said:
Yeah I was about to say. I had first tried buying one of the local Playstation Bluetooth gamepads for PC here, but I wasn't able to pair it with my phone unfortunately. Would be sweet though if somebody comes eventually up with a hack that allows Android users to use PS3 gamepads...
The PSX style Bluetooth gamepads of mine have sold out for now unfortunately. I talked to the guy who makes them two days ago and he said he will need at least two weeks to make the next batch, but this time I asked him to make 30, which should hopefully be finished by the first week of May.
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This has got me thinking.... I wonder if it would be worthwhile to try to produce my own bluetooth gamepads to sell?
If you don't mind, next time you talk to the guy, see if you can get a bunch of the bluetooth modules that he uses and if you can get a good price on them. If I can find a good source for the bluetooth modules for cheap, I could probably produce custom-made bluetooth controllers for relatively cheap. Maybe make one or 2 different premade models, and then I could also do custom made ones for people, where they send me whatever controller they want me to make into a bluetooth one.
I desperately need an income right now, so I've been trying to think up ideas for side business to help makes ends meet. This might be something that may interest a lot of people if I can get it done cheap enough.
If you wouldn't mind seeing if it would be possible to buy a bunch of the bluetooth modules that this guy uses in his controllers, I'd appreciate it. Even if you can get a few of them, that would be cool. The main reason I wanted to buy one of these controllers was to open it up to use the bluetooth module in my own custom controller.
To anyone who reads this, let me know your opinion...Does this idea sound like something people would be interested in? Any ideas or suggestions?
If I could get the bluetooth modules for $10/each or less, and get the gamepads I use for $10/each or less, I should be able to make them and charge $30 or less, plus shipping.
Sorry, I had been busy these days with some work I had to take care of. He only told me he's buying them on the electronic market in his city of Chongqing in western China. He wouldn't tell me obviously which ones he is using, as he wants to stay in business. Wouldn't any sort of module work though?
Anyway, shipment of the gamepads had been slow, and they only arrived yesterday. I tried and tested them, and they seem to be all working fine. I only managed to post them today from Hong Kong. I've got to ask him to use a faster courier next time though. Anyway as said he's working on thirty more pads, and he's finished ten so far and hopefully in a week's time he'll be finished with the other twenty. I also managed to find a FedEx reseller who can ship the pads within 24-48 hours for 25 USD. So that might be a better way for next time...
Yeah, any bluetooth keyboard module would work, but I was just wondering if this guy would be willing to sell a bunch of the modules for a decent price. The cheapest I can get bluetooth keyboards are for around $16-$18, and I'd have to deal with taking them apart and all that. If I can find someplace to get just the bluetooth modules for a reasonable price($10 or less each), it might be worthwhile to try to do this.
It was just an idea. Did you ask him if he would sell a bunch of the BT modules? I doubt I would cut into any of his business considering he's all the way in china and there's not many people making BT gamepads, and he could make some extra money selling the BT modules marking them up if he has a good connection for them.
I'm just trying to buy around 10 or so right now... nothing huge. If not, no big deal. With all these other manufacturers now releasing bluetooth gamepads suddenly, I don't know if it would even be worthwhile to try making my own. A year ago, it would have definitely been worth it, as there was no other BT gamepads on the market.
For years there was only the BGP100 gamepad available if you wanted a bluetooth one, and that has been discontinued for like 5 years. And no other manufacturer releases any bluetooth gamepads all this time, but now, suddenly, there's like 4 or 5 companies all releasing bluetooth gamepads all in the same year.
Nah, he won't budge. Maybe if you sent me the name of a module I could go and look around for you.
thirru said:
Nah, he won't budge. Maybe if you sent me the name of a module I could go and look around for you.
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I'm not sure of the manufacturers... I'll look into that. There's a bunch of cheap bluetooth keyboard that come out of china... I'm not sure if one manufacturer makes most of the modules and sells to different manufacturers of keyboards. Any bluetooth board from any small bluetooth keyboard would work. You can get the small keyboards as cheap as $15 ea retail, so I figure if you find the right company or place, you should be able to get just the bluetooth boards from them for $5-$10 if you buy a bunch.
I don't know, don't worry about going out of your way or anything, but keep your eyes open for any really cheap bluetooth keyboards or modules from them. I'll probably buy a keyboard or 2 and see how easily I can make a custom bluetooth keyboard... see if it's something that might be worth my efforts.
I just got my iControlPads in the mail today.... they are very nice. Very sturdy and well-built. You should look into it if you game a lot. I know they are pretty expensive... at least twice the price of the gamepads you're getting... but the features it has and the versatility with upgradeable firmware and multiple bluetooth profiles, and ability to charge devices off it's battery while using it... I think makes it well worth it foranyone who games a decent amount. What I read about the parts used and build quality, and now that I actually am holding one... It's very sturdy and I bet it could easily last 10 or more years, with exception of internal battery and rubber membrane, both of which you should be able to get from manufacturer and replace when needed.
Oh, yeah, I wanted to ask... is that you in the android controller thread at fpsece.net forums talking about these PSX controllers? I've been trying to get more people aware of the iControlPad there so that schtruck adds support for them in FPSe. It's my favorite PSX emulator, and I hope he adds full support so the analog controls on the iControlPad will work properly. That's another really cool thing about those gamepads... I've never seen analog controls like that... there really nice... it would be great to use them properly with psx games. The analog controls can be used to control mouse arrow on computers, too, which is pretty cool.
how can we get the bluetooth gamepad?
Hello thirru
i have a HTC HD2 windows mobile and i am interested to buy this bluetooth gamepad, is there anyway i can get it? if yes then for how much?
thanks
zarathustrax said:
I'm not sure of the manufacturers... I'll look into that. There's a bunch of cheap bluetooth keyboard that come out of china... I'm not sure if one manufacturer makes most of the modules and sells to different manufacturers of keyboards. Any bluetooth board from any small bluetooth keyboard would work. You can get the small keyboards as cheap as $15 ea retail, so I figure if you find the right company or place, you should be able to get just the bluetooth boards from them for $5-$10 if you buy a bunch.
I don't know, don't worry about going out of your way or anything, but keep your eyes open for any really cheap bluetooth keyboards or modules from them. I'll probably buy a keyboard or 2 and see how easily I can make a custom bluetooth keyboard... see if it's something that might be worth my efforts.
I just got my iControlPads in the mail today.... they are very nice. Very sturdy and well-built. You should look into it if you game a lot. I know they are pretty expensive... at least twice the price of the gamepads you're getting... but the features it has and the versatility with upgradeable firmware and multiple bluetooth profiles, and ability to charge devices off it's battery while using it... I think makes it well worth it foranyone who games a decent amount. What I read about the parts used and build quality, and now that I actually am holding one... It's very sturdy and I bet it could easily last 10 or more years, with exception of internal battery and rubber membrane, both of which you should be able to get from manufacturer and replace when needed.
Oh, yeah, I wanted to ask... is that you in the android controller thread at fpsece.net forums talking about these PSX controllers? I've been trying to get more people aware of the iControlPad there so that schtruck adds support for them in FPSe. It's my favorite PSX emulator, and I hope he adds full support so the analog controls on the iControlPad will work properly. That's another really cool thing about those gamepads... I've never seen analog controls like that... there really nice... it would be great to use them properly with psx games. The analog controls can be used to control mouse arrow on computers, too, which is pretty cool.
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That's great news zarathustrax, does it work with all the emulators so far? How is the feeling in your hand when you haven't attached it to your HD2? To be honest I've rarely seen a gamepad break. I still have plenty of SNES and NES controllers somewhere in my closet that i used for years and that are probably still fully functionable. But yeah I'm happy for you that your icontrolpad finally arrived and that it's of great build quality.
Anyway, I have been looking for some bluetooth modules and keyboards. And they vary in price between 7-12 USD. The cheapest one is 7, but it's really just the module without any pins.
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The one with pins is 9 USD
And the cheapest mini bluetooth keyboard I found is about 12 USD.
Oh and yeah I am also the guy who posted at the FPSE forum.
reachkavi said:
Hello thirru
i have a HTC HD2 windows mobile and i am interested to buy this bluetooth gamepad, is there anyway i can get it? if yes then for how much?
thanks
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Reachkavi, I should have new ones in about a weeks time. I'll let you know when they arrive and then I'll make an ebay buy it now page again. They are $30 plus $15 (standard) or $25 for FedEX express shipping.
I'm a little surprised nobody has mentioned the factory cable in the accessories section. For anybody doing anything more than using the Kindle Fire in the stock configuration, I think the factory cable is a must-have accessory. It makes so many tasks so much simpler to perform. Getting out of bootloops, flashing a ROM for the first time, or unbricking... they all get reduced to at most 2 or 3 steps... all without any need to troubleshoot. If everybody had a factory cable (and knew how to use it) before they started tinkering with their device, the general section wouldn't be packed full of help requests.
For those who are unfamiliar with the factory cable, it's a special USB cable that will put the Kindle Fire directly into fastboot mode when it starts up. This is important because the hardest part of fixing most problems on the Kindle Fire is first getting the device into fastboot mode. Even in the worst bricking incidents... if you have any working bootloader, use the factory cable to get into fastboot, flash a new bootloader/recovery/ROM, reboot and the thing is fixed. The less familiar you are with how all of this stuff works, the more useful the factory cable will be in your toolbox.
You can make your own from a generic USB cable if you have a soldering iron and some time. I personally could have gone the DIY route, but I decided to purchase one from a fellow XDA member. He makes them himself and really takes pride in the quality of his products.
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It's saved me once and been a great timesaver in many other instances.
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I have my Kindle in fastboot mode
I want buy Kindle Fire Factory Cable SkOrPn
How I can from Italy?
Thanks
Awesome thread to start. I believe the maker is out of stock until April 16 in his updated post.
Cheshire.Love said:
Awesome thread to start. I believe the maker is out of stock until April 16 in his updated post.
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aww really? i was just going to PM him and buy one! He is selling out fast!
mistaanime said:
aww really? i was just going to PM him and buy one! He is selling out fast!
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He said he ran out of parts to produce more and was waiting on supplies. He also said in a different thread that he was in the middle of a move, so I guess he's trying to get everything in order before starting up again. No reason you couldn't send him a PM anyway and get in line.. I'm sure it will be anytime now.
heh yea.. i Pmed him i think....I send the pms but I don't think they are going through. kinda weird because when i check my inbox. it doesn't even show sent messages. so i dunno.
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heh yea.. i Pmed him i think....I send the pms but I don't think they are going through. kinda weird because when i check my inbox. it doesn't even show sent messages. so i dunno.
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By default, outgoing PMs are not saved to the sent box. You either have to check the box down at the bottom for every message you send, or there's a setting you can change somewhere in your profile.
Why wait? They sell the same cable for 6 dollars cheaper on ebay.
rasheemo said:
Why wait? They sell the same cable for 6 dollars cheaper on ebay.
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I'm not trying to be a cheerleader for SkOrPn's products, but for one thing, the eBay listing quotes 20-25 days before delivery. Even with SkOrPn's production delays, I'm guessing you'd get his before you get that delivery from Hong Kong.
However, the more important point here is that numerous XDA members have vouched for his product quality and customer service. If for some reason that cable from China doesn't work out, you'd be sitting on your hands waiting for it to get shipped back (likely at your expense) before they'd send you a replacement, or fronting another $9 in the hopes that the next one works. I had a similar experience with another gadget I ordered from China and not having it work. Other users in the KF forums have noted that SkOrPn has gone out of his way to make sure you are happy with your purchase.
Of course, how you spend your money is entirely up to you, but if I was in the market for one and I was given the choice, I think I would choose to spend the extra $6 for the peace of mind and insurance against potential frustration... to each his own.
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I'm not trying to be a cheerleader for SkOrPn's products, but for one thing, the eBay listing quotes 20-25 days before delivery. Even with SkOrPn's production delays, I'm guessing you'd get his before you get that delivery from Hong Kong.
However, the more important point here is that numerous XDA members have vouched for his product quality and customer service. If for some reason that cable from China doesn't work out, you'd be sitting on your hands waiting for it to get shipped back (likely at your expense) before they'd send you a replacement, or fronting another $9 in the hopes that the next one works. I had a similar experience with another gadget I ordered from China and not having it work. Other users in the KF forums have noted that SkOrPn has gone out of his way to make sure you are happy with your purchase.
Of course, how you spend your money is entirely up to you, but if I was in the market for one and I was given the choice, I think I would choose to spend the extra $6 for the peace of mind and insurance against potential frustration... to each his own.
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Received my cable yesterday (ordered it when I made that post on the 11th of April). Works perfectly well.
Thank you for starting this post. I've been seeing "factory cable" everywhere on this forum and didn't have a clue what they were talking about. I just figured it meant I had to buy a cable - not that what the cable itself does is special!
Glad I used the search feature, finally, to find this out.
rasheemo said:
Why wait? They sell the same cable for 6 dollars cheaper on ebay.
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Yup, I just ordered one, 9.99$, 1.50$ shipping to Canada. It may take a while but it's cheap. Cheap enough to take the risk. The alternative is 47$ for the 3ft cable. The ebay one is only 2.5 ft, but that's better then the 1.5ft one.
Can someone look at this and tell me if the cable included with this deal is a "factory cable"?
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Amazon-Kindle-Fire-Black-Leather-Case-Stylus-Pen-USB-Cable/6585149/product.html
akalostangel said:
Can someone look at this and tell me if the cable included with this deal is a "factory cable"?
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Amazon-Kindle-Fire-Black-Leather-Case-Stylus-Pen-USB-Cable/6585149/product.html
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No, it is not.
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No, it is not.
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Thank you. I wasn't sure because it said "sync/charge" cable, not just cable. Glad I asked so I won't waste my $$$.
kinfauns said:
I'm not trying to be a cheerleader for SkOrPn's products, but for one thing, the eBay listing quotes 20-25 days before delivery. Even with SkOrPn's production delays, I'm guessing you'd get his before you get that delivery from Hong Kong.
However, the more important point here is that numerous XDA members have vouched for his product quality and customer service. If for some reason that cable from China doesn't work out, you'd be sitting on your hands waiting for it to get shipped back (likely at your expense) before they'd send you a replacement, or fronting another $9 in the hopes that the next one works. I had a similar experience with another gadget I ordered from China and not having it work. Other users in the KF forums have noted that SkOrPn has gone out of his way to make sure you are happy with your purchase.
Of course, how you spend your money is entirely up to you, but if I was in the market for one and I was given the choice, I think I would choose to spend the extra $6 for the peace of mind and insurance against potential frustration... to each his own.
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I highly recommend buying the cable from SkOrPn. I bricked my KF and was too impatient to wait for the cable from China off of ebay, so when I ran across these forums I immediately ordered one from him. Ordered on Monday and had it by Thursday. It doesnt look homemade and worked great. Thanks SkOrpN!
I also bricked my Kindle during rooting. Using TWRP I accidentally wiped the system after I installed stock firmware so there was only stock bootloader. I had a cable that I purchased form DealExtreme it turned out that the plug can be easily opened so one can solder the 4-th pin to +5V.
If someone is willing to wait few weeks for the delivery this is the link for a cheap cable that can be easly modded to be a factory cable.
I can't post a link but do to deal extreme and search for sku 48924
AluminumHaste said:
Yup, I just ordered one, 9.99$, 1.50$ shipping to Canada. It may take a while but it's cheap. Cheap enough to take the risk. The alternative is 47$ for the 3ft cable. The ebay one is only 2.5 ft, but that's better then the 1.5ft one.
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Who in the heck is selling them for $47? Wow thats insanely expensive for a limited use cable.
Kamakookie said:
I highly recommend buying the cable from SkOrPn. I bricked my KF and was too impatient to wait for the cable from China off of ebay, so when I ran across these forums I immediately ordered one from him. Ordered on Monday and had it by Thursday. It doesn't look homemade and worked great. Thanks SkOrPn!
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Your very much welcome.... The ONLY real difference between mine and the ones from China is I actually test mine (three times during build) and the chinese slave labor do not bother testing because they know there is only a 10% chance of shipping a bad one. Why spend money on testing equipment and more slaves?
USB booting is easier than going and buying a factory cable IMO. I did it yesterday and it was much better than buying a cable and waiting for it to come in the mail.
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Zachintosh said:
USB booting is easier than going and buying a factory cable IMO. I did it yesterday and it was much better than buying a cable and waiting for it to come in the mail.
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Well, you're certainly entitled to that opinion, but from what I've seen on this forum, it's not one that's likely to be shared by most users. For most people, having to open up the case, risk damage to the device, and violate the terms of warranty is going to be beyond their comfort level. Besides, my suggestion is to have one around in case something goes bad, not order one after the fact. Just as people use a case to protect it before accidents occur, having a factory cable shouldn't be all that different. If you had one around, you would never consider USB boot to get into fastboot mode except as a last resort.
has anybody with proper cables tried hooking up the gnote2/smartdock to a motorola lapdock? that would be friggin' awesome if the lapdock completely works with a hdmi cable and the keyboard/trackpad if functional with a usb from the smartdock. i really have no interest in the smartdock as i have mhl already so the smartdock would be redundant for me in the few situations i use mhl but if it works with the lapdock then a whole bunch of possibilities arise and my laptop would probably never ever leave the house.
so anybody know, tried, working on it, interested etc.? i was planning on selling my atrix/lapdock soon but seeing i need to order a couple things from samsung this week i am thinking of trying it. the thing is though, the smartdock has been unavailable on their website and $100 is too expensive for me to just experiment for hahas. if it becomes available and i can snatch it for $50 with a half off coupon then i will order the other cables necessary to try.
I would be interested in this as well. There is another new thread asking about it (though yours in newer).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2084881
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I would be interested in this as well. There is another new thread asking about it (though yours in newer).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2084881
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Thanks. Didn't see that. Problem is finding a smart dock now. Amazon has no stock. There are 2 on eBay at let me empty your bank account prices. Samsung has no indication if and when these will be back in stock. So now the question remains... anybody want to sell their smart dock for a reasonable price so I can test this?
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Supposedly the dock will be back in stock mid February. It is likely amazon will have it a few days before Samsung's website has it though. Don't ask me why.
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Hi all, I only saw one similar thread when searching the forums but it was quite an old post.
Anyway i'm looking for a gaming controller compatable with the htc one. There are quite a few options so i'm not sure what to go for and would appreciate some oppinions. I will most likely be purchasing off ebay or amazon.
I would be interested in a controller that is no more than about £25 ($38) with shipping. I would like it to be rechargeable. Also I would like it to be compatable with the htc one (obviously), and more specifically modern combat 4.
I was also iwondering about buying a replica ps3 controller but again not sure if it would work.
My phone is rooted and any suggestions would be appreciated along with software to download.
Thanks, I look forward to hear your replys
MOGA makes some good ones from what I hear.
http://www.amazon.com/MOGA-Mobile-Gaming-System-Android/dp/B0096L2SJ0
Most (if not all) of these mobile game pads operate over Bluetooth, so it is really up to the developers to enable support through the game's code.
It's a little more than what you are willing to spend, but from all the praise I hear about it, it seems to be well worth it.
layzz said:
Hi all, I only saw one similar thread when searching the forums but it was quite an old post.
Anyway i'm looking for a gaming controller compatable with the htc one. There are quite a few options so i'm not sure what to go for and would appreciate some oppinions. I will most likely be purchasing off ebay or amazon.
I would be interested in a controller that is no more than about £25 ($38) with shipping. I would like it to be rechargeable. Also I would like it to be compatable with the htc one (obviously), and more specifically modern combat 4.
I was also iwondering about buying a replica ps3 controller but again not sure if it would work.
My phone is rooted and any suggestions would be appreciated along with software to download.
Thanks, I look forward to hear your replys
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Unfortunately the bluetooth stack on sense based roms is to put it mildly, crap! So as a workaround you could install an AOSP type rom which should enable you to use the likes of a PS3 controller, if that's the route you want to take then don't for the love of god buy a crappy replica pad, they're false economy and don't offer half the amount of precision that an official pad will.
PS3 pads are around £30 and the six axis app is around £2 i think, theres a chance that HTC will pull their heads out but I highly doubt it.
If Sense is the way you are going then the best option as the previous poster has stated is the Moga controller, but don't go for the original, it's cheaper yea but it also takes batteries instead of being a rechargable base.
The Moga Pro controller is available for £39.99 from Game.co.uk, it's an expensive pad but it's built like a rock and feels just like an xbox 360 controller, plus it has the batteries built in and will work with Sense in conjunction with the Pivot app which is free.
There are only so many games made to tailor it but you can get an app called gamekeyboard (which i think is also free) and map button presses to keys for emulators etc, i think there is an option for touch points but I'm yet to test that.
Thanks for the replies guys. I think I will just keep looking on ebay for a second hand moga pro ro save up for it to save hastle. I rooted my htc one for the sole purpose of playing games with a controller so hopefully I can find a good priced one. The PS3 controller/ASOP rom doesnt seem worth the hastle to save £5. Do you know if it would work with apk files not downloaded from the play store?
check out these threads -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230904&page=23&highlight=moga+pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346824&highlight=moga+pro
layzz said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I think I will just keep looking on ebay for a second hand moga pro ro save up for it to save hastle. I rooted my htc one for the sole purpose of playing games with a controller so hopefully I can find a good priced one. The PS3 controller/ASOP rom doesnt seem worth the hastle to save £5. Do you know if it would work with apk files not downloaded from the play store?
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I wouldn't talk about ripping off games or apps on XDA m8, you'll incur an infraction if your caught doing so.
The app for the record won't work if it's an apk, it needs to check in and doesn't work, there is a six axis compaibility checker which is free.
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I wouldn't talk about ripping off games or apps on XDA m8, you'll incur an infraction if your caught doing so.
The app for the record won't work if it's an apk, it needs to check in and doesn't work, there is a six axis compaibility checker which is free.
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I believe that there are places to download games and apps that aren't the Play store, that are still legal.
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I believe that there are places to download games and apps that aren't the Play store, that are still legal.
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Just advice lad. The question was referring to an app, the app in question was the six axis controller Iapp, that is a paid app. There is no place to download it for free without ripping off the developer, hence my response.
If you're downloading paid for apps for free. Then you shouldn't be, simple as that.
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Hi everyone.I have some question.I want to buy something for kodi and live tv. I look the some forum.and i see amazon firestick buffering problem.is that solved ? Which one I must to buy?
Im Waiting your Reply friends.
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Im Waiting your Reply friends.
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IMO, Those are 2 different things. I don't have any serious buffering issues on my ftvs or my rpi but that has a lot to do with your internet speeds. My advanced settings are untouched but my internet is fast. Of course buffering is inevitable. If the server it's coming from is slow it doesn't matter how fast your speeds are or what device you have.
Rpi is a computer with many potential functions but it lacks netflix, amazon and other streaming apps. So if you want an easy to setup kodi experience with netflix and prime I'd just buy the stick. Plus if this is your first rpi you'll need extra accessories so that 35 bucks turns into 50 or more real fast.
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IMO, Those are 2 different things. I don't have any serious buffering issues on my ftvs or my rpi but that has a lot to do with your internet speeds. My advanced settings are untouched but my internet is fast. Of course buffering is inevitable. If the server it's coming from is slow it doesn't matter how fast your speeds are or what device you have.
Rpi is a computer with many potential functions but it lacks netflix, amazon and other streaming apps. So if you want an easy to setup kodi experience with netflix and prime I'd just buy the stick. Plus if this is your first rpi you'll need extra accessories so that 35 bucks turns into 50 or more real fast.
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I have 16 mbps 2.4ghz Internet Connection.I m living on the Turkey.If i buy the firestick i pay 50 usd.Because amazon cant send this item to Turkey.I use borderlinx.But In my country I can buy raspberry.
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I have 16 mbps 2.4ghz Internet Connection.I m living on the Turkey.If i buy the firestick i pay 50 usd.Because amazon cant send this item to Turkey.I use borderlinx.But In my country I can buy raspberry.
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OK. So you are taking cost into account. I have RPI b+ but heard the new one ,version 2, is very fast (almost as fast as AFTV console.)
Other factors--1. If you can't use Ethernet, you'll need a good WiFi adapter
2. If your TV has cec support you'll be able to use TV remote, otherwise you'll need to buy flirc or other.
My take is that RPI is much better than ftvs. But ease of use, lack of Netflix and other streaming services, and extra equipment will make it a more complex decision. On the other hand, you'll be able to do more with RPI than an unrooted stick. So its really a matter of what your needs are & what you want to spend. Personally, if the cost was equal I'd go for RPI but then I believe I'd need something like play on to get those streaming services.
I'd have more fun with RPI but for practical reasons I'd probably buy the stick.
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OK. So you are taking cost into account. I have RPI b+ but heard the new one ,version 2, is very fast (almost as fast as AFTV console.)
Other factors--1. If you can't use Ethernet, you'll need a good WiFi adapter
2. If your TV has cec support you'll be able to use TV remote, otherwise you'll need to buy flirc or other.
My take is that RPI is much better than ftvs. But ease of use, lack of Netflix and other streaming services, and extra equipment will make it a more complex decision. On the other hand, you'll be able to do more with RPI than an unrooted stick. So its really a matter of what your needs are & what you want to spend. Personally, if the cost was equal I'd go for RPI but then I believe I'd need something like play on to get those streaming services.
I'd have more fun with RPI but for practical reasons I'd probably buy the stick.
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I cant Connect with ethernet.Has Firestick got any issues or problem?I see the buffering problem.Is that solved?I want to watch live american tv.If firestick doesnt have problem Thats enough for me.
ßoNjoVe said:
I cant Connect with ethernet.Has Firestick got any issues or problem?I see the buffering problem.Is that solved?I want to watch live american tv.If firestick doesnt have problem Thats enough for me.
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No buffering issues that I'm aware of. If you have issues you need to create advanced settings to adjust it. Its all about your network. And because both stick and RPI 2 have same amount of ram, they will probably behave the same on your network.
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No buffering issues that I'm aware of. If you have issues you need to create advanced settings to adjust it. Its all about your network. And because both stick and RPI 2 have same amount of ram, they will probably behave the same on your network.
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I can buy the netflix bein sport xfinity on next time.In Other forum they say buy rpi2 Im confused
This is the fire TV forum so youll get info related to that. I'd do a little more research on RPI to see if it meets your needs.
But the concern you had about buffering isn't really an issue on stick as far as I know. Buffering is a universal issue. Google "buffering" and insert the name of any device and I'll bet someone complained about it. Take a look at this. It might be helpful for whichever one you buy.
http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Modify_the_video_cache
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This is the fire TV forum so youll get info related to that. I'd do a little more research on RPI to see if it meets your needs.
But the concern you had about buffering isn't really an issue on stick as far as I know. Buffering is a universal issue. Google "buffering" and insert the name of any device and I'll bet someone complained about it. Take a look at this. It might be helpful for whichever one you buy.
http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Modify_the_video_cache
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No you're correct, 99 times out of 100 it's a network problem. It's much easier for people to blame the hardware [emoji1]
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No you're correct, 99 times out of 100 it's a network problem. It's much easier for people to blame the hardware [emoji1]
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Shall I wait for discount?
KLit75 said:
This is the fire TV forum so youll get info related to that. I'd do a little more research on RPI to see if it meets your needs.
But the concern you had about buffering isn't really an issue on stick as far as I know. Buffering is a universal issue. Google "buffering" and insert the name of any device and I'll bet someone complained about it. Take a look at this. It might be helpful for whichever one you buy.
http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Modify_the_video_cache
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ßoNjoVe said:
Shall I wait for discount?
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Why did you quote me?
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Shall I wait for discount?
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Well there's a sale in the US, as of yesterday. Many stores carrying them for around $24 bucks (but not sure if that will benefit you in your part of the world.) If all your looking for is a good kodi experience with live tv+netflix I think the stick will be a good choice. And if ethernet is NOT an option, I really think you'll have less headaches and spend less money if you buy stick. The RPI needs a good wifi adapter not included.
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Why did you quote me?
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I think maybe you know.If I peeved to you Im sorry
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Well there's a sale in the US, as of yesterday. Many stores carrying them for around $24 bucks (but not sure if that will benefit you in your part of the world.) If all your looking for is a good kodi experience with live tv+netflix I think the stick will be a good choice. And if ethernet is NOT an option, I really think you'll have less headaches and spend less money if you buy stick. The RPI needs a good wifi adapter not included.
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I can buy with borderlinx. So shipping not important.If that included us shipping thats enough for me.I didnt understand your sentence."but not sure that will benefit..."
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Well there's a sale in the US, as of yesterday. Many stores carrying them for around $24 bucks (but not sure if that will benefit you in your part of the world.) If all your looking for is a good kodi experience with live tv+netflix I think the stick will be a good choice. And if ethernet is NOT an option, I really think you'll have less headaches and spend less money if you buy stick. The RPI needs a good wifi adapter not included.
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And whic site sell for 24 bucks?
This is where I heard. But now I see they are retail stores. Do they have bestbuy in Turkey? Or will any of these stores ship? Either way, a price drop in stores might result in lower prices online.
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tv-stick-on-sale-at-several-retailers/
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And whic site sell for 24 bucks?
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I can buy with borderlinx. So shipping not important.If that included us shipping thats enough for me.I didnt understand your sentence."but not sure that will benefit..."
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Just meant in your location. Wasn't sure where you can buy from & if shipping's a factor.
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This is where I heard. But now I see they are retail stores. Do they have bestbuy in Turkey? Or will any of these stores ship? Either way, a price drop in stores might result in lower prices online.
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tv-stick-on-sale-at-several-retailers/
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Just meant in your location. Wasn't sure where you can buy from & if shipping's a factor.
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Location isnt important.Because I use my Us shipping adress.And The deals passed.:crying: