Last night I put my phone to bed (lol) with over 65% battery, and as per usual, my low battery warning beeps woke me up before my alarm did!!
Reached over and the phone was at 1% battery level!!!!
Here are a few screenshots of my setup.
Can anyone help me find out what the problem is, or should I use it as a rugby ball and kick it into the stratosphere?
cheers
Matt
HI,
have you got any weird apps installed? you maybe a victim of "cryptocoin-mining code" exploit
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Charun_za said:
HI,
have you got any weird apps installed? you maybe a victim of "cryptocoin-mining code" exploit
android bitcoin dogecoin mining malware
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Nah, got no dodgy apps installed.
Did a complete reinstall of the Rom with full wipe etc too.....still the same happens.
I can put the phone by side of bed at 60% battery, then i'm .literally woke up by the damn thing beeping at me tell me there is like, 1-5% left !
frustrating :crying::crying:
oh dear, maybe its battery dying, lithiums don't like being discharged down so low, 10%~ is a danger zone for battery and recharge cycle,
lower the % goes, the shorter the life of the battery gets and less recharge cycles you get
only logical thing i can think of
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my battery seems to be dieing a slow death
charged it for the first time on tuesday evening and with lots of use it(and i mean lots) lasted until thursday morning, last 2 charges have last a lot less
took it off charge at 5.00am this morning it has had about 8 hrs standy and an hours use and it down to 2 bars left
any one els had this
combat goofwing said:
my battery seems to be dieing a slow death
charged it for the first time on tuesday evening and with lots of use it(and i mean lots) lasted until thursday morning, last 2 charges have last a lot less
took it off charge at 5.00am this morning it has had about 8 hrs standy and an hours use and it down to 2 bars left
any one els had this
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No issues with battery here.
My advice would be to completely drain the battery.
Keep powering the device on until there is absolutely no juice left.
Then remove the battery, re-insert and leave to fully charge without powering the device on.
See if that resolves your issues.
Battery life on mine is excellent after a weeks useage, no complaints here.
Cheers,
Beasty
beast0898 said:
No issues with battery here.
My advice would be to completely drain the battery.
Keep powering the device on until there is absolutely no juice left.
Then remove the battery, re-insert and leave to fully charge without powering the device on.
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Have you tried this yourself? Because, I wouldn't probably be comfortable draining the battery quite as empty as suggested by this method. The Li-Ion batteries need some charge to be left in them even when they are "completely" discharged, or else they are damaged (it may actually stop accepting charge, so recharging becomes impossible).
I think it should be enough to just leave the device on for as long time as possible - until the device finally shuts itself down. Then do a full recharge and you should be ready to go.
Of course if you've done this yourself and can confirm the battery still accepts charge after such procedure, then no serious damage has presumably been done. Wouldn't go quite this far myself, though.
Cheers
I can't say for certain about the TP2 battery but most Li-Ion batteries will have a tiny protection circuit in them to prevent over charging and over discharging. Becasue of the potentially explosive nature of Li-Ion batteries I would be very suprised if the TP2 battery didn't have any protection.
Yes that's true. And TP2 most certainly has this chip. However, I'm not 100 % sure if that chip can protect the battery against this kind of "abuse". It probably can, but I wouldn't like to be the first in line to check if it can or not...
I agree with what you all say, and yes I'm pretty sure that the protection circuits are there. I haven't tried it on my Rhodium, but did on my Raphael after lending to a colleague who was incapable of maintaining. Charge would hold for around three to four hours of useage, pretty damn useless after a week of abuse.
I totally disharged as much as I could, then left overnight with the device powered off and since then the battery useage has been as norm.
I know were not supposed to be affected by memory issues, but go figure...........
Cheers,
Beasty
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Have you tried this yourself? Because, I wouldn't probably be comfortable draining the battery quite as empty as suggested by this method. The Li-Ion batteries need some charge to be left in them even when they are "completely" discharged, or else they are damaged (it may actually stop accepting charge, so recharging becomes impossible).
I think it should be enough to just leave the device on for as long time as possible - until the device finally shuts itself down. Then do a full recharge and you should be ready to go.
Of course if you've done this yourself and can confirm the battery still accepts charge after such procedure, then no serious damage has presumably been done. Wouldn't go quite this far myself, though.
Cheers
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ive done this countless numbers of times, it doesnt damage the battery. well, at least none of the ones i have owned
combat goofwing said:
my battery seems to be dieing a slow death
charged it for the first time on tuesday evening and with lots of use it(and i mean lots) lasted until thursday morning, last 2 charges have last a lot less
took it off charge at 5.00am this morning it has had about 8 hrs standy and an hours use and it down to 2 bars left
any one els had this
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Yes.
aBE-One said:
Yes that's true. And TP2 most certainly has this chip. However, I'm not 100 % sure if that chip can protect the battery against this kind of "abuse". It probably can, but I wouldn't like to be the first in line to check if it can or not...
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I have done it many times . Never had a problem...........SO FAR .
OK, it seems that's safe then. Good to know in case my TP2 starts to show similar behaviour.
beast0898 said:
No issues with battery here.
My advice would be to completely drain the battery.
Keep powering the device on until there is absolutely no juice left.
Then remove the battery, re-insert and leave to fully charge without powering the device on.
See if that resolves your issues.
Battery life on mine is excellent after a weeks useage, no complaints here.
Cheers,
Beasty
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did as you said drained it right down even powering on again to make sure
gave it a full charge while powered off
from 5 this morning it has been in stand by and has about an hours use and im down to 2 bars on the main screen
when fully charged i check the power in setting and the last green bar was not lit
nothing running in the background
any other ides to try to sort it before i contact MPD and see about getting a new battery
thanks again for the help
combat goofwing said:
did as you said drained it right down even powering on again to make sure
gave it a full charge while powered off
from 5 this morning it has been in stand by and has about an hours use and im down to 2 bars on the main screen
when fully charged i check the power in setting and the last green bar was not lit
nothing running in the background
any other ides to try to sort it before i contact MPD and see about getting a new battery
thanks again for the help
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Nope,
Sorry mate, sounds like your battery is a dead one.
Cheers,
Beasty
been in touch with HTC uk
they have told me to do the following
from flat
charge for 10mins then use the phone do this 3 times each time making it dead before recharging
thay say this will condition the battery
does this sound right?
I've brought my Desire Z back for reparation (Mainboard died and replaced by an official repair center).
I've bringed it with my stock Battery fully loaded (I took it from the charger and 30 minutes later it died). When i picked it up, the battery was totally empty. Nothing in it. The Phone didn't even turned on!
It taked a while on the charger, but finally it turned on and was charged to 100% in normal time.
Since that, I experience a huge battery drain. When I release my phone from the charger on 7.30AM, it is dead on 4.30PM with no use! No SMS, phonecall, nothing. Only Gmail sync.
I've tried different ROM's (With- and without sense) and did restore my phone to stock. It doesn't solve my problem, the drain still stays huge, even with no apps installed!!!
I've tried another battery > same problem!
What can this be? Normally, my Desire Z last about 1,5 days oder 2 days when nothing happens. Why it's draining so fast, even if it's not used?
What can I do to resolve this ??
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I've brought my Desire Z back for reparation (Mainboard died and replaced by an official repair center).
I've bringed it with my stock Battery fully loaded (I took it from the charger and 30 minutes later it died). When i picked it up, the battery was totally empty. Nothing in it. The Phone didn't even turned on!
It taked a while on the charger, but finally it turned on and was charged to 100% in normal time.
Since that, I experience a huge battery drain. When I release my phone from the charger on 7.30AM, it is dead on 4.30PM with no use! No SMS, phonecall, nothing. Only Gmail sync.
I've tried different ROM's (With- and without sense) and did restore my phone to stock. It doesn't solve my problem, the drain still stays huge, even with no apps installed!!!
I've tried another battery > same problem!
What can this be? Normally, my Desire Z last about 1,5 days oder 2 days when nothing happens. Why it's draining so fast, even if it's not used?
What can I do to resolve this ??
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try a new battery? Reset battery stats and give it a few days to actually get accurate readings? 8 hours isn't unheard of especially if your battery is giving up the ghost. give those thigns a try and maybe turn off sync and/or data to see if that makes a differance.
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try a new battery? Reset battery stats and give it a few days to actually get accurate readings? 8 hours isn't unheard of especially if your battery is giving up the ghost. give those thigns a try and maybe turn off sync and/or data to see if that makes a differance.
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Thanks! I've already tried a new battery, but that makes no sense.
I'm now draining it to zero, i.e. when it's fully dead, and then charge it to 100% for 8 hours. When it's charged, i'll wipe battery stats. Let's see.
When anybody has more tips, i'm pleased to hear them!
Here's a tip: don't drain your battery to zero. This is a great way to shorten the life of the battery, or completely ruin it.
For purposes of battery meter calibration, draining to 10-20% is plenty sufficient.
There should be no problem draining a battery to zero as shown by software. There is a myth/misunderstanding that this is a bad thing because people confuse it with the fact that Lithium Ion batteries can be permanently damaged if they are drained too low.
BUT any device using such batteries will have its circuitry setup to have 0% set to a point above this damaging threshold.
So the "too low" point in hardware is likely to be below the zero point that the phone's firmware and software will let you go to.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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Here's a tip: don't drain your battery to zero. This is a great way to shorten the life of the battery, or completely ruin it.
For purposes of battery meter calibration, draining to 10-20% is plenty sufficient.
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x2 I concur with this. No need to fully discharge the battery, one it probably doesn't even fully discharge because I'm pretty sure the software is saving you from yourself, plus when the battery stats are uncalibrated I'm fairly certain it reads as discharged but in fact is only partially thus the calibration is off. Lastly I'm if the opinion that throwing different charge levels works better because it more closely resembles real life charging situations. Also letting it charge for that long does nothing because the phone charges only a trickle when full in order to not ruin the battery, similar to a laptop. Overcharge protection....
Thanks again!
Now I did charge it to full and wiped Battery stats.
After 1hour 30 minutes, it lost 10%. Did only send 2 short mails with Gmail.
Here is the usage chart:
- Screen 54% (Time active 4m 51s), Brightness ~20%
- Mobile Stand-By 20% (Time active 1u 26m 13s)
- Phone inactive 18% (Time Active 1u 21m 21s)
- Gmail 5% (CPU Total 31s, CPU Foreground 25s, enabled 51s)
- Android OS 3% (CPU Total 21s)
CPU is on idle ~10%, as always. I don't see any apps that are burning my battery.
s there something abnormal here?
just compared it with my statistics (running virtuous affinity)...
Mobile Stand-By seems to be very high... i have 4% (time active 2 h 30 m)
maybe radio related?
hoffmas said:
just compared it with my statistics (running virtuous affinity)...
Mobile Stand-By seems to be very high... i have 4% (time active 2 h 30 m)
maybe radio related?
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This stats come from Virtuous Affinity also. I'd had never had any problems with such a drain with my 'old phone'. As soon as I got it back from the repair center, the battery drain is huge.
I've reflashed the latest radio for my phone, made a Superwipe and made a fresh install of Viruous Affinity. Let's see.
I think that 'Cell Standby' is killing my battery. It is at the top of the usage list with 38% and it's all time active. My phone was left it's charger at 7.15AM, now at 9.00AM it lost 20% of it's battery on idle use only. On 9.00AM, I've turned my phone on airplane mode. Let's see if that works.
I will recover the phone to stock tonight. If this isn't working, I'll return the phone to the store.
Even with the phone on airplane mode the battery is heavily draining. My last escape is to remove the SD Card. If the draining continues, then I will bring my phone back.
Does the battery came hot? Like more than normal?
With temp+cpu app you can monitor your temperature.
Because if on idle the temperature's around 25-28 C, you should be alright.
And then you can consider what steviewevie said; lithium battery can be damaged if you go on a too low voltage. Even if the phone as his ''protection'' to not get the battery to a critical level, the battery can loose power even if its not used.
Lithium ion, its cool but not perfect.
Try a OEM brand new battery.
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There should be no problem draining a battery to zero as shown by software. There is a myth/misunderstanding that this is a bad thing because people confuse it with the fact that Lithium Ion batteries can be permanently damaged if they are drained too low.
BUT any device using such batteries will have its circuitry setup to have 0% set to a point above this damaging threshold.
So the "too low" point in hardware is likely to be below the zero point that the phone's firmware and software will let you go to.
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I've seen plenty of people on XDA with this phone and others that have rendered their battery unable to charge by letting it discharge to zero. Yes, there are failsafes meant to prevent over-discharge, but they apparently do not always work. The damage is not "permanent" in that its just the protection circuit of the battery kicking in. But the only way to bring the battery back from "sleeping" is with a special battery meter with boost function, which most people do not have access to. So for all practical purposes, its cheaper to just buy a new battery.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/low_voltage_cut_off
Yes, over-discharge will not LIKELY kill your battery in this way. But there is no point in taking the risk. The battery meter is far from accurate in the best of conditions. So there is zero benefit to letting the battery drain to zero, as opposed to 10 or 20 %, just for the benefit of calibrating the battery meter.
Also, even if over-discharge does not instantly "kill" the battery, running full cycles at the least will shorten the overall life of the battery. Its best to avoid full cycles and charge often.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
Now this is just my experience from reading the experiences of others on XDA. I know there are hardware techs that can give much more first hand experience with batteries and may disagree. But as I figure, better safe than sorry. Especially when you consider there is no real benefit to letting it drain to zero on purpose.
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Does the battery came hot? Like more than normal?
With temp+cpu app you can monitor your temperature.
Because if on idle the temperature's around 25-28 C, you should be alright.
And then you can consider what steviewevie said; lithium battery can be damaged if you go on a too low voltage. Even if the phone as his ''protection'' to not get the battery to a critical level, the battery can loose power even if its not used.
Lithium ion, its cool but not perfect.
Try a OEM brand new battery.
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The temp of the battery don't exceed 28 degrees, I test this with Battery Indicator Pro. When discharged, the Voltage is around 3,6 (Which is normal behaviour). When charged, it,s 4,2V which is normal also.
I have already tried a new battery, and it doesn't make sense. Same behaviour.
I'm really clueless, because it drains the battery always. Airplane mode an removal of the SD card makes no difference.
I will return to stock tonight, charge again, and see if it behaves the same. When yes, then I will return the phone as I don't accept such behaviour (Normally, my Battery last 30+ Hours on idle).
Thanks for your tips and help for so far! I will report.
Hello ppl
My galaxy note 8.0 battery needs battery calibration so i discharged the battery and while charging it (turned off device) I noticed that battery state give full green battery 100% for seconds then drop back to the low level it is charging on (that keep happening every about 2 minutes!!) .. that's while the charger "AC" is plugged and I didn't unplug it ... anybody noticed such behavior or has explanation? ... thx
You mean the meter is jumping from 100% to whatever the "real" reading should be (like 20%, since you said you drained to shutdown)? If so, that is indeed odd.
Also, the battery itself doesn't need to be calibrated. Its just calibrating the batter meter (setting high and low flags). Not sure if you just have the semantics wrong, or if you actually think you are doing something to the battery (which many mistakenly believe, its not like the older tech NiCad batteries, which need to be conditioned periodically).
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You mean the meter is jumping from 100% to whatever the "real" reading should be (like 20%, since you said you drained to shutdown)? If so, that is indeed odd.
Also, the battery itself doesn't need to be calibrated. Its just calibrating the batter meter (setting high and low flags). Not sure if you just have the semantics wrong, or if you actually think you are doing something to the battery (which many mistakenly believe, its not like the older tech NiCad batteries, which need to be conditioned periodically).
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thx 4 the reply .. yes I mean the meter jump from real reading to 100% and beck to real reading repetitively!!
Same thing happens to me. Do I need to calibrate my battery again or what? Its really annoying. Dunno if the sd maid I installed deleted my batterystat.bin file
it worked
It worked... All I had to do was download battery calibration from playstore. I allowed my battery to drain completely, then I charged it straight to a hundred percent w/o interrupting. When it got to 100% I launched the battery calibration app and clicked on #calibrate battery# and that was it.. My battery works pretty fine now... Beware of SD maid. It can really mess with your battery if you're not very good with it.
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Same thing happens to me. Do I need to calibrate my battery again or what? Its really annoying. Dunno if the sd maid I installed deleted my batterystat.bin file
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batterystats.bin gets wiped every time you recharge the phone.
It actually has nothing to do with the battery meter calibration high/low flags, but the app you used successfully does.
https://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-engineer-debunks-myth-wiping-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
My battery life suddenly became horrible this morning. Normally I unplug my phone every morning around 6AM, and i dont need to charge it again until closer to 9PM.
This morning, I realized that despite being on a full charge at 6AM as usual, my battery was completely depleted by 10. I checked the battery "app" and it said that phone idle and cell standby were both at 13% usage, and that was the most i had used my phone. it registered the full time (4 hours) of usage for those 2 but it also said that it was only responsible for 13 % of my battery drain each. After that there was google play services.
I figured it was just a fluke, so I reboot the phone and recharged it. Once again, the battery drained in a mere 4 hours. This time it told me a voice call of only 10 minutes length was responsible for 35% of my battery drain, and that having my screen on for a seperate 10 minutes was responsible for 25% of my battery drain. This might be fine and dandy if the actual draining chart showed a steep fall off when i made the call, but that is not the case. the chart is a straight line showing constant drainage with no steep or flat areas. I'm thinking something is definitely wrong and the phone is causing itself to drain. maybe something hardware oriented, since i dont even have very many apps downloaded.
I've literally only interacted with my phone maybe 3 times today, and I didnt even do anything major.
Do you guys have any ideas as to what is going on with it?
I'm CM10, latest stable. not the monthlies. no cpu hacks or anything, and as I said, this problem cropped up this morning. before this everything has been fine.
Please search for Better Battery Stats here on XDA. That thread has quiet a few tips on saving battery drain.
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Please search for Better Battery Stats here on XDA. That thread has quiet a few tips on saving battery drain.
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If I hadnt already made sure I was following the tips and I wasnt dead sure that something was the problem, I would not have made this post.
I did manage to figure out the problem by sheer dumb luck and a little bit of educated guessing.
I uninstalled the MyFitnessPal and tried again today. I'm exhibiting normal battery drain now (10 hours and im at 46% with not too much usage of the phone).
If you read the post I made, no apps were showing up as a large battery drainer, and all my stats were reporting incorrect times (13% battery usage for a 4 hour period despite showing me i only used the phone for 10 minutes). So something was definitely wrong. Uninstalling the app fixed the issue though, so for anyone who exhibits this problem, uninstall whatever apps you most recently installed and do a reboot.
I didnt have to reset or anything.
I have noticed in the past 3 weeks that my phone rapidly discharges. I have done a factory reset, uninstalled programs that i really don't need, and moved a lot of apps to SD card and i am still losing power faster than i was in say April or even July this year.
Anyone else experiencing this? Not rooted BTW.
Like how fast does it discharge?
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Like how fast does it discharge?
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Lets say I plug it out at 9am. by 12 midday it has already lost 3-5% or even more. Overnight like 10%. it used to only lose 3-5% overnight.
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Lets say I plug it out at 9am. by 12 midday it has already lost 3-5% or even more. Overnight like 10%. it used to only lose 3-5% overnight.
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Okay so I can tell that the initial drop is a bit unusual because even on my S8+ when I unplug the phone from around 8:30 A.M (100%) it drops 1% around 10:00 A.M. or 10:30 A.M (This is with AOD on) and the overnight drain also seems unusual cause for me I face like a 5 - 6% drains due to my social media apps always retrieving notifications.
But try giving this app a try and see:- Servicely It may help you save up some battery. But before you try this app I suggest Like Re-calibrating your battery, the best way to do this would be to fully charge the battery and then drain the battery till it automatically switches off, repeat this 2 - 3 times and then give the app a try
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Okay so I can tell that the initial drop is a bit unusual because even on my S8+ when I unplug the phone from around 8:30 A.M (100%) it drops 1% around 10:00 A.M. or 10:30 A.M (This is with AOD on) and the overnight drain also seems unusual cause for me I face like a 5 - 6% drains due to my social media apps always retrieving notifications.
But try giving this app a try and see:- Servicely It may help you save up some battery. But before you try this app I suggest Like Re-calibrating your battery, the best way to do this would be to fully charge the battery and then drain the battery till it automatically switches off, repeat this 2 - 3 times and then give the app a try
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Thank you for the advice. Funny enough, this week I have been making it go all the way down to 6% or so before I recharge it. Also, screen broke in July so this phone is literally 2 months old as I got it July 5th as a replacement. Brand new and in the beginning I was so impressed with the battery usage. Since then, it has fallen off dramatically! I keep hoping an update will change it but not yet, the last one last week for facial recognition, etc did nothing for the battery.
I will try and recalibrate it over the weekend/next week.
Thanks.
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Thank you for the advice. Funny enough, this week I have been making it go all the way down to 6% or so before I recharge it. Also, screen broke in July so this phone is literally 2 months old as I got it July 5th as a replacement. Brand new and in the beginning I was so impressed with the battery usage. Since then, it has fallen off dramatically! I keep hoping an update will change it but not yet, the last one last week for facial recognition, etc did nothing for the battery.
I will try and recalibrate it over the weekend/next week.
Thanks.
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No pb, before having an S8+ I had a OnePlus 2 and I was having some battery issues, so the normal battery calibration helped solve the problem for a few months until I bought a new battery for it. And we'll have to hope that Oreo would optimize the battery life
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No pb, before having an S8+ I had a OnePlus 2 and I was having some battery issues, so the normal battery calibration helped solve the problem for a few months until I bought a new battery for it. And we'll have to hope that Oreo would optimize the battery life
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Yes, when it does come out......Verizon is not always first...
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Yes, when it does come out......Verizon is not always first...
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Yep they are pretty slow when it comes to updates
Hatsune_Rox said:
Okay so I can tell that the initial drop is a bit unusual because even on my S8+ when I unplug the phone from around 8:30 A.M (100%) it drops 1% around 10:00 A.M. or 10:30 A.M (This is with AOD on) and the overnight drain also seems unusual cause for me I face like a 5 - 6% drains due to my social media apps always retrieving notifications.
But try giving this app a try and see:- Servicely It may help you save up some battery. But before you try this app I suggest Like Re-calibrating your battery, the best way to do this would be to fully charge the battery and then drain the battery till it automatically switches off, repeat this 2 - 3 times and then give the app a try
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Do you have to turn your phone back on as soon as you plug it in or keep it off? Would it matter either way?
theres battery/power adjustments options in the phone... touch the battery icon
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Do you have to turn your phone back on as soon as you plug it in or keep it off? Would it matter either way?
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Nope don't turn it on if you are recalibrating it
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Nope don't turn it on if you are recalibrating it
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Update: Since I posted this, it was determined by Verizon that the unit was to be changed out. I got the new unit and so far(fingers crossed) I am getting about 2 days out of 1 charge. I liked the suggestion about recalibrating the battery. I am now losing 3-4% overnight when the unit does "sleep". Much better than the 10+% it was losing before. Not sure what was killing it but thanks to all the suggestions out there. I will see if there is any improvement when we get Oreo update.