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[Q] Old school [Newbie] - needs some advice

I am old school rooter custom ROM user on many devices. ( Nook Color / Transformer / LG-G2x ) So I understand the process of rooting and bootloader's and adb ect..... BUT ..... I am brand new to Kindle Fire. Just bought one today. I have looked over these forums for hours. I have learned a bit ... but still not 100% sure of the best route to take. I found a great option with BuritoRoot3, but seems im screwed because I have 3.6.x stock. I want FULL root. I don't care about Kindle desktop or stock crap. I have a ROM I want to run (HellFire) but I dont fully understand now without BuritoRoot3 how to go about
1) Rooting
2) Making a backup / recovery
3) FIREFIREFIRE
4) TWRP or CWM ?
or some easier why to go about this. Like a drop back to 6.2 stock some how ?? is that possible ....
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again

Thibor69 said:
I am old school rooter custom ROM user on many devices. ( Nook Color / Transformer / LG-G2x ) So I understand the process of rooting and bootloader's and adb ect..... BUT ..... I am brand new to Kindle Fire. Just bought one today. I have looked over these forums for hours. I have learned a bit ... but still not 100% sure of the best route to take. I found a great option with BuritoRoot3, but seems im screwed because I have 3.6.x stock. I want FULL root. I don't care about Kindle desktop or stock crap. I have a ROM I want to run (HellFire) but I dont fully understand now without BuritoRoot3 how to go about
1) Rooting
2) Making a backup / recovery
3) FIREFIREFIRE
4) TWRP or CWM ?
or some easier why to go about this. Like a drop back to 6.2 stock some how ?? is that possible ....
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again
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Skim this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
It will get you caught up on basic terminology, installing drivers, relevant fastboot/adb commands. Focus on post #3... near the end, it has a step-by-step on how you should go about flashing a custom ROM on a stock device. You do not need to root the stock software if you are going straight to a custom ROM. The document is slightly dated as it refers to an older version of FFF, but it will get you started nonetheless. You can update to the newest version of FFF when you are all done without much trouble.
Right now, the preferred recovery is TWRP because CWMR has problems flashing ICS based ROMs, so you should probably go with that one. Backups/restores should be pretty self-explanatory once you get TWRP installed.

The most recent Fire I bought, I didn't waste any time going through the rooting crap. I just put it into fastboot, installed FFF and TWRP, and used adb to push ICS to sdcard for flashing in recovery.
I never even let the stock OS boot
Use TWRP for now, CWM has issues with the latest kernel.
And definitely read the guide kinfauns gave you a link to. As long as you have a couple of brain cells to play with, it'll give you a good foundation to work from.

soupmagnet said:
The most recent Fire I bought, I didn't waste any time going through the rooting crap. I just put it into fastboot, installed FFF and TWRP, and used adb to push ICS to sdcard for flashing in recovery.
I never even let the stock OS boot
Use TWRP for now, CWM has issues with the latest kernel.
And definitely read the guide kinfauns gave you a link to. As long as you have a couple of brain cells to play with, it'll give you a good foundation to work from.
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Thanks to both you guys for the info. I will figure it out. Guess I need to just read more.... I dont see how to get into fastboot mode yet ....
Cheers

Thibor69 said:
Thanks to both you guys for the info. I will figure it out. Guess I need to just read more.... I dont see how to get into fastboot mode yet ....
Cheers
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On a stock device, you have 2 choices...
1) Use a factory cable to get directly into fastboot mode
2) Use pokey9000's fbmode exploit to set the bootmode to fastboot (4002) and reboot
In the URL I gave you, there are links and directions on how to use fbmode near the end of post #3.

Fastboot....
Thibor69 said:
Thanks to both you guys for the info. I will figure it out. Guess I need to just read more.... I dont see how to get into fastboot mode yet ....
Cheers
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I had the same question when I first started with the KF. Basically you need to change the "Bootmode" of the KF to boot into Fastboot mode. This is most easily done using the Kindle Fire Utility then restart your KF.
It is really not necessary to do this to root/install a custom ROM and it has lead a lot of inexperienced users to get "stuck at the yellow triangle," but if you want to play around with it, it is easy to do.
Hope this helps. Thanks for listening
Sincerely,
William
[Kindle Fire: gedeROM v1.2 {3.0 Kernel, CM9, Android 4.0.4} - Stock Kernel]
[HTC Evo 4G Supersonic: MikG 3.11 ROM - Chop Suey Custom Kernel]
[Retired: HTC CDMA Hero: Gingerbread Hero Deck ROM - Stock Kernel]
end.

pokey's fbmode is the way to go for 6.3
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Entropy512 said:
pokey's fbmode is the way to go for 6.3
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2
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Were is pokey's fbmode link ? I can't find it.

Thibor69 said:
Were is pokey's fbmode link ? I can't find it.
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It's this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414832
They didn't fix it in 6.3
Alternatively, it's "easier" to hop into fastboot mode with FFF, so that shouldn't worry you much once it's installed.

Dasanko said:
It's this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414832
They didn't fix it in 6.3
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I think It'd be pretty tough to "fix" fbmode without locking the bootloader. It's only a matter of time though.

[Q] Kindle fire second gen 6.3.2 root help

Ok i am trying to prep my KF2 for custom rom install and can't find any rooting method for 6.3.2. So i tried to update to the latest stock software on the KF2 and nothing work, sync for over the air wifi and manual nothing takes. I reset to factory clean and still won't take best i get is the update button will light up once i place the update on the kindle but all it does it start to update then deletes the file from itself! KFU is only for first gen and will brick my device, can't install ADB drivers and wouldn't matter if i did at this point for 6.3.2 on the KF2 has no option to enable such feature. About all i have done was install the SDK for android provided in the KF2 root forums. I am totally new to this and want to rid myself of amazon rom and its limitations so any help on how to root 6.3.2 on a second gen kindle fire would be greatly appreciated.

There is no 6.3.2 for the kf2.
I think you may have an original kindle
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mindmajick said:
There is no 6.3.2 for the kf2.
I think you may have an original kindle
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
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Ah that's possible since i only googled the model number and it came up with second gens not like it was solid research lol. Thanks i will look deeper then proceed with KFU

Seems i can't install the drivers provided with KF utility running win8 x64

Darthdiddy said:
Seems i can't install the drivers provided with KF utility running win8 x64
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You have to boot up in unsigned driver mode and install the drivers manually through device manager
Just be careful. Make sure you only follow directions in the first gen forums. The model number is the same for first and second generation, but the device is way different. You can always tell which one you have by the software version.
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[Q] New KF 2nd gen, little confused

Hi everybody, just scored a 2nd gen Kindle Fire off ebay for a great price, loved my KF 1st gen.
I have been reading up and wanted to get some clarification on a few things before I start hacking it into pieces. XDA is amazing but can be confusing at times due to the raw amount of data and the age of some of the posts.
First, my info:
* KF 2nd gen 7" (non HD)
* 10.3.1 software ver (stock)
* Windows 7 pro x64 available
or
* Ubuntu 12.10 availalbe
* No Fastboot cable, but I am ok trying it without and ordering if I need to
Now, my questions:
* Is Jordan11's root method still the most usefull/sucessfull for 10.3.1 or is there another more accepted route to root? - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2075959
* Is fmkilo's 2nd bootloader/twrp script the accepted model for loading recovery image or is there a more manual but more sucessfull method? - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106463
* Does the boot0 block still need to be backed up or has this issue been fixed? - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106463
If the above methods are generally frowned on, please link replacement for root/2nd bootloader/recovery that you would recommend.
**Last but not least thanks for reading, any helpfull info you can think to add is much appreciated.

Anybody?
Never seen an unanswered post this long, is the kf2 not a popular device?
Or maybe just a holiday weekend?
I plan on attempting the above monday if nobody can steer me better by then...

Yes the method of root you choose will work,
I'd use hashcodes instructions for twrp install, but both should work fine
Backup your boot0 for good measure
Sent from my GT-P3110 using xda app-developers app

Much thanks, i'll put it through the paces tomorrow, anybody else is welcome to continue posting tips for success.

mog44net said:
Much thanks, i'll put it through the paces tomorrow, anybody else is welcome to continue posting tips for success.
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Worked fine, booted into twrp recovery, did a factory reset wipe, loaded cm10.1 and it boot looped.
Ended up getting a factory fastboot cable and restoring it, then downgraded to 10.2.3, worked like a charm after that.
FYI, after root I used the adb install apk route to get and use the apk twrp and 2nd bootloader method, works perfect and fast.

[Q] Kindle Fire 2 Root

this is my first kindle/ tablet and first time rooting...
i have 10.4.3 and am looking for a working root... Help?

Help comes to those that (search) help themselves.
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mindmajick said:
Help comes to those that (search) help themselves.
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Thank you so much!

mindmajick said:
Help comes to those that (search) help themselves.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
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I did... None of it made sense so i tried to ask for more basic help.

kdiddy8 said:
I did... None of it made sense so i tried to ask for more basic help.
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None of your search results made sense? That's interesting...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247493

root 10.4.6
kindle updated to software version 10.4.6. been trying to root using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2075959 wich worked on previous versions of the software (of course) . not working anymore (at least for me). i need help obtaining root again. anything?
Update: the root method on the link above worked on the third root attempt, dunno what changed on the installation process but, root has been granted. thanks.
Update 2: the device says its rooted but the installation of the SU binary fails every time.

mrjanio said:
kindle updated to software version 10.4.6. been trying to root using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2075959 wich worked on previous versions of the software (of course) . not working anymore (at least for me). i need help obtaining root again. anything?
Update: the root method on the link above worked on the third root attempt, dunno what changed on the installation process but, root has been granted. thanks.
Update 2: the device says its rooted but the installation of the SU binary fails every time.
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Happened to me too after the 10.4.6 update.
I used KF First Aide though and got root working again:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117

thanks worked for me as well. 10.4.6 now rooted. use that first aide link

After Root -> sluggish Kindle with flashing logo
Hi,
I root me Kindle Fire v2 (v10.4.6) to, with the software KFFirstAide but I got several problems.
1. software can't find and install busybox.apk
2. software shows me the message "all fine" but the kindle is sluggish and the boot logo is always flashing every 2 or 3 sec.
The Software-Option to remove this problem doesn't work - i get always a error back.
Is there an option to fix this?
If i use the kindle option: factory reset, all works fine again but root is off.
....

root
Is it worth rooting the kindle fire? I've been thinking any doing it and flashing a rom
---------- Post added at 03:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:16 PM ----------
One thing I like abt rooting is that it gets rid of the special offers which get annoying after awhile

Is it possible to change the original ROM-Version 10.4.6. directly to CyanogenMod 10.1.3? ( cm-10.1.3-otter2.zip) or does I need a factory cable for a downgrade or some other fixes? My only experience with CM is a Samsung N7000

That's not a downgrade, the kindle doesn't run CyanogenMod by default. You have to install 2nd bootloader+ twrp to flash custom ROMs. Look here for info and make sure to downgrade the boot loader first, and I can't stress enough to check the md5sum of the boot loader when you download it, you don't want a hard brick from a bad download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963
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help needed please !!

Hello All XDA members,
I have a Kindle HD 8.9 and as the warranty passed off, at the same time Christmas is nearing...I decided to install CM KK on my sons kindle as i don't have enough money to give a present to my son.
I've done all that is given here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963.
Problems I've faced are as the thread didn't mention to root I was trying some codes without that but some how figured that i needed root to proceed..Simultaneously rooted my kindle rebooted and then proceeded with the codes i.e backup of system img and all the steps that were given.
I has all the downloaded files in download directory so the stack push didn't work first then i moved all the required files to C> ADB folder and everything worked but before figuring it out i googled stack file push failure and came across a guide that has the stack push directory to data/temp (I see that this was later edited here)
However i retried with the push to the location that is currently mentioned now and it worked (So the stack file is at 2 locations now)
Proceeded with all next steps and stuck at flashing bin file in fastboot, realized the downloaded file was .bin.html i renamed it to bin and flashed
Everything was done as mentioned except something that needed to be understood and done by logical thinking like removing .html and flashing .bin.
After all this when the kindle was supposed to reboot it didn't and its completely dead now... I have done all that was mentioned and have said all the errors or misses that i has above ..now is it that the kindle is dead brick forever ?
I cant trust how can that be because i really know how cautious i was and i did almost every thing as mentioned..
Saddest part is that now I've messed up my sons kindle which i thought of Flashing CM KK and giving a little gift as i'm not capable of providing any gift now ..I've messed his kindle as well now
I'd be really glad and thankful if some one can help me out in this situation and recover kindle.
Again i'd like to mention I've done as mentioned please trust me and still have the image backups, i read that the back up can be reflashed but as there is no commuication via ADB or flashboot i don't thing that can be done now .
Why did this happen what can be possible reason ?

Sounds like you may have accidently saved a webpage instead of the .bin file, that's why it had the .html on the end. If you tried to flash this to the bootloader then unfortunately you have bricked it

Broncos15 said:
Sounds like you may have accidently saved a webpage instead of the .bin file, that's why it had the .html on the end. If you tried to flash this to the bootloader then unfortunately you have bricked it
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No if that was the case then why will the file bo .bin.html ?

Mr.Dumb said:
No if that was the case then why will the file bo .bin.html ?
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It shouldn't have .html on the end. Check the md5 sum for the file and make sure that it is the same as it should be, you should ALWAYS do this when messing with the bootloader

Maybe you flashed wrong images.
I just went to the link of the guide that you followed in flashing a second bootloader and recovery. The instructions are for a Kindle Fire 2/ Otter2. Its a different device from the KF HD 8.9. So.... if you did flash the images from that link, it will lead to a bricked device no matter if you followed the instructions to the letter. Maybe you can sell it on ebay or Craigslist for parts. Just a thought...

maxaurelius said:
I just went to the link of the guide that you followed in flashing a second bootloader and recovery. The instructions are for a Kindle Fire 2/ Otter2. Its a different device from the KF HD 8.9. So.... if you did flash the images from that link, it will lead to a bricked device no matter if you followed the instructions to the letter. Maybe you can sell it on ebay or Craigslist for parts. Just a thought...
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I actually plan on doing this for a similar reason. My sons kindle battery life is appalling as it drains faster than before and charges slower, plus kindle updates are lacking badly and some things don't work anymore.
I hope you can fix it somehow.
Happy new year.

Mr.Dumb said:
Hello All XDA members,
I have a Kindle HD 8.9 and as the warranty passed off, at the same time Christmas is nearing...I decided to install CM KK on my sons kindle as i don't have enough money to give a present to my son.
I've done all that is given here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963.
Problems I've faced are as the thread didn't mention to root I was trying some codes without that but some how figured that i needed root to proceed..Simultaneously rooted my kindle rebooted and then proceeded with the codes i.e backup of system img and all the steps that were given.
I has all the downloaded files in download directory so the stack push didn't work first then i moved all the required files to C> ADB folder and everything worked but before figuring it out i googled stack file push failure and came across a guide that has the stack push directory to data/temp (I see that this was later edited here)
However i retried with the push to the location that is currently mentioned now and it worked (So the stack file is at 2 locations now)
Proceeded with all next steps and stuck at flashing bin file in fastboot, realized the downloaded file was .bin.html i renamed it to bin and flashed
Everything was done as mentioned except something that needed to be understood and done by logical thinking like removing .html and flashing .bin.
After all this when the kindle was supposed to reboot it didn't and its completely dead now... I have done all that was mentioned and have said all the errors or misses that i has above ..now is it that the kindle is dead brick forever ?
I cant trust how can that be because i really know how cautious i was and i did almost every thing as mentioned..
Saddest part is that now I've messed up my sons kindle which i thought of Flashing CM KK and giving a little gift as i'm not capable of providing any gift now ..I've messed his kindle as well now
I'd be really glad and thankful if some one can help me out in this situation and recover kindle.
Again i'd like to mention I've done as mentioned please trust me and still have the image backups, i read that the back up can be reflashed but as there is no commuication via ADB or flashboot i don't thing that can be done now .
Why did this happen what can be possible reason ?
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As stated by Max above, if you flashed those images from that thread you linked to in your post, then those are the incorrect files for your device. and would have definitely bricked it! assuming you do have the FFHD 8.9 inch. but you still may be able to unbrick it. are you positive of which kindle device you have? if you are positive that it is indeed a KFHD 8.9, do you know which version it was on before you started the OP?
Mike

11fan said:
As stated by Max above, if you flashed those images from that thread you linked to in your post, then those are the incorrect files for your device. and would have definitely bricked it! assuming you do have the FFHD 8.9 inch. but you still may be able to unbrick it. are you positive of which kindle device you have? if you are positive that it is indeed a KFHD 8.9, do you know which version it was on before you started the OP?
Mike
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Thanks a lot friends, i surely have a jem and i tried to read ad do things intended to do for jem only (seems strange to me that link i posted is for otter though i cross checked many times not to flash other device images but may be messed up in enthusiasm)
Never mind i eventually had to end up selling this on craiglist as a friend mentioned and got a working one from ebay ( to my shock it's reported as lost and stolen) looks i have great bad luck...
Now the kindle is just nothing unless i have cm in it but i will need all you guys help so that i dont end up like before
So please help me out with links so that i do all things correctly ...please i don't have any money now to loose or fix this ...
Thanks in advance
Edit : i tried to root kindle but was not able to, its on the highest or most up to date version of fire os as per amazon
I tried to root with restore by binary, cant see superuser in app drawer, able to see it in system/apps via root explorer
Tried to install firefire.apk it shows no root & root explorer doesn't rename system apps to .bak.... So i believe i cant root..
Please @11fan help me out now i need only cm on kindle thats fine for me.......
I'd be gratful to you for the help

Let me see if I got this correct, you sold the bricked kindle with the incorrect images on it on craislist? You Bought another kindle off eBay that has been reported stolen/lost? That sounds like some of my luck! So you got another kfhd 8.9? And you are for sure!? If so, go to about tablet in settings and see which version its currently running, also turn ON USB debugging and set it to allow 3rd party app installs in security settings, then get adb and fastboot working and we will go from there.
Mike
sent from my jem running CM11 using TapaTalk

11fan said:
Let me see if I got this correct, you sold the bricked kindle with the incorrect images on it on craislist? You Bought another kindle off eBay that has been reported stolen/lost? That sounds like some of my luck! So you got another kfhd 8.9? And you are for sure!? If so, go to about tablet in settings and see which version its currently running, also turn ON USB debugging and set it to allow 3rd party app installs in security settings, then get adb and fastboot working and we will go from there.
Mike
sent from my jem running CM11 using TapaTalk
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Done all that mate and yes im sure its Kindle Fire HD 8.9 running os 8.5.1
Edit : After trying to root with binary tool and qemu tool (scripts) the device became extremely laggy

Mr.Dumb said:
Done all that mate and yes im sure its Kindle Fire HD 8.9 running os 8.5.1
Edit : After trying to root with binary tool and qemu tool (scripts) the device became extremely laggy
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yes the lag is known issue after/when trying to root using some of the ways posted! if you can get through the lagg long enough to get an app on it i would recommend using an app called keyrootmaster you can get it here http://download.apks.org/?server=14&apkid=com.zhiqupk.root&ver=1.3.6 this is what i used and several other posters i know of, THE ONLY BAD THING IS the app is written in Indonesian language, BUT it works and after about 3 taps you got root! if you are going to CM or some other rom it shouldn't matter about the language anyway as all of that app will be gone and superuser is baked into CM anyway. see if you can get that app, get it rooted and let me know and i will try to help you get TWRP and CM installed. I hope this helps out some!
Mike

11fan said:
yes the lag is known issue after/when trying to root using some of the ways posted! if you can get through the lagg long enough to get an app on it i would recommend using an app called keyrootmaster you can get it here http://download.apks.org/?server=14&apkid=com.zhiqupk.root&ver=1.3.6 this is what i used and several other posters i know of, THE ONLY BAD THING IS the app is written in Indonesian language, BUT it works and after about 3 taps you got root! if you are going to CM or some other rom it shouldn't matter about the language anyway as all of that app will be gone and superuser is baked into CM anyway. see if you can get that app, get it rooted and let me know and i will try to help you get TWRP and CM installed. I hope this helps out some!
Mike
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Yes please help me with TWRP / CWM. Please & I want to install CM on it now

Did you get it rooted?
Mike

11fan said:
Did you get it rooted?
Mike
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Yes
Hello @11fan
Edit : got it rooted, TWRP installed, made a nandroid backuo & tried to flash CM (chkd MD5 as well) but CM boot screen stayed for so so long...so I rebooted the device to TWRP and did a full wipe as well as format data...now have no os installed, cant mount as usb storage to copy nandroid...kooks like i've messed again....
Praying to God that I have some way again to restore...
Edit 2 : sorted via adb sideload

Glad you got it....i was going to tell you that the LONG cm screen on first boot is normal! I just loaded cm12 on mine last night and first boot took about 8 minutes, maybe longer as I forgot to time it!
Mike