[Q] Unlocking bootloader & flashing new kernel = brick? - Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion

Hi everyone,
I've got a quick bootloader unlocking query - if I were to unlock my bootloader and then immediately flash a custom kernel (i.e. no reboot in between), would this cause a hard-brick?
I ask because I'm on my 2nd phone now, having bricked the first one due to impatience! I'd like to unlock the bootloader but I'm too scared of bricking it again :silly:
Cheers

im quite sure you may need to let it settle for a bit
there has been no one who i know of who has done that so id suggest of unlocking and waiting a day or two
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I think you'd better read carefully in the furom,unless you are full understanding,you can flash the custom rom
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Yeah I've done a lot of reading & following guides for rooting etc. I've been searching through the bricked devices threads and it has now put me off unlocking the BL :laugh:
I found this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48773344#post48773344) where someone has successfully unlocked their bootloader and flashed an advanced stock kernel, and then flashed the DooMKernel (same one I tried the first time) and then bricked their phone!! Their symptoms are exactly the same as mine. The annoying thing is that everyone else seems to be able to flash the DooMKernel without issue - the DooMKernel thread is full of satisfied customers! The randomness of bricking isn't worth the risk
Cheers guys

supermeerkat said:
Yeah I've done a lot of reading & following guides for rooting etc. I've been searching through the bricked devices threads and it has now put me off unlocking the BL :laugh:
I found this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48773344#post48773344) where someone has successfully unlocked their bootloader and flashed an advanced stock kernel, and then flashed the DooMKernel (same one I tried the first time) and then bricked their phone!! Their symptoms are exactly the same as mine. The annoying thing is that everyone else seems to be able to flash the DooMKernel without issue - the DooMKernel thread is full of satisfied customers! The randomness of bricking isn't worth the risk
Cheers guys
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well, this is my person experience, i unlocked and loaded a custom ROM immediately without flashing the kernal and it works fine. I am not sure if flashing a kernel after that will create any issues.

lowks said:
well, this is my person experience, i unlocked and loaded a custom ROM immediately without flashing the kernal and it works fine. I am not sure if flashing a kernel after that will create any issues.
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If you flashed a custom rom that required an unlocked bootloader, then I assume it's because it comes with a custom (i.e. non-stock) kernel? After unlocking the bootloader, did you let the phone boot normally before flashing the custom rom?

supermeerkat said:
If you flashed a custom rom that required an unlocked bootloader, then I assume it's because it comes with a custom (i.e. non-stock) kernel? After unlocking the bootloader, did you let the phone boot normally before flashing the custom rom?
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Yes I did... I asked the custom rom had a custom kernel inside

supermeerkat said:
Hi everyone,
I've got a quick bootloader unlocking query - if I were to unlock my bootloader and then immediately flash a custom kernel (i.e. no reboot in between), would this cause a hard-brick?
I ask because I'm on my 2nd phone now, having bricked the first one due to impatience! I'd like to unlock the bootloader but I'm too scared of bricking it again :silly:
Cheers
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I did it and immediately flash carbon rom (4.4.2)....no problem so far make sure you u wipe everything cache,dalvik cache, data and system then flash doomlord's kernel....

eddie13 said:
I did it and immediately flash carbon rom (4.4.2)....no problem so far make sure you u wipe everything cache,dalvik cache, data and system then flash doomlord's kernel....
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Ah, so you managed to flash a custom rom/kernel without rebooting after unlocking the bootloader? At least that confirms that something else is responsible for bricking my phone. When I bricked my phone, I didn't wipe cache or dalvik - I started from a fresh stock rom...didn't even root or have a recovery installed.

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arc s bootloop

Hey guys,
since i flashed back to and older version to root the phone and then upgraded again, everytime my battery is empty and i plug in my phone in to charge, it ends in a bootloop. But when i press the back button to get into the recovery and then boot the phone from there it boots normally.
Someone knows what went wrong, when i rooted my phone?? :good:
shiinix said:
Hey guys,
since i flashed back to and older version to root the phone and then upgraded again, everytime my battery is empty and i plug in my phone in to charge, it ends in a bootloop. But when i press the back button to get into the recovery and then boot the phone from there it boots normally.
Someone knows what went wrong, when i rooted my phone?? :good:
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Man what did you do when rooting what tool?
I think ...keep things as simple as possible ...flash again a new firmware and it should work ok !
Hey
thanks for ur answer :good:
i rooted my phone like that:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683957
But which firmware i should flash? i am a noob in flashing phones
Can u post a link to a firmware which is good for my phone?
shiinix said:
Hey
thanks for ur answer :good:
i rooted my phone like that:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683957
But which firmware i should flash? i am a noob in flashing phones
Can u post a link to a firmware which is good for my phone?
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here is a list of ROMs for your phone be sure you have Xperia Arc S not other phone never flash a ROM that is not for your phone because you can cause hardware damage to your phone
i cant install a custom rom, cause my bootloader is locked.
edit.:
can i install arconium (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1565475) cause it only requries a "stock kernel with CWM???
A unlocked bootloader is only usefull to install other kernels, but because this rom is compatible with a stock rom, i think i dont have to unlock the bootloader, right? :cyclops:
shiinix said:
i cant install a custom rom, cause my bootloader is locked.
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Can't you unlock bootloader trough htcdev?
Another question: Why did you root your phone?
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Guitarfreak12 said:
Can't you unlock bootloader trough htcdev?
Another question: Why did you root your phone?
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i can unlock, but i dont think it is a good idea for a newby like me to unlock it.
I rooted my phone, cause i wanted to install other fonts and wanted to delete some apps, which were installed, and to customize some
shiinix said:
i cant install a custom rom, cause my bootloader is locked.
edit.:
can i install arconium (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1565475) cause it only requries a "stock kernel with CWM???
A unlocked bootloader is only usefull to install other kernels, but because this rom is compatible with a stock rom, i think i dont have to unlock the bootloader, right? :cyclops:
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It seems Acronium requires an unlocked bootloader
for your first flash I recommend to install a stock-based ROM just leave bootloader as it is if you just wanna do this way then use a laptop when flashing /unlocking bootloader cause every failure in bootloader results in a dead-phone then only service tools save your phone -your phone is bricked
so search in that list for a ROM that is stock-based choose one with good howto instructions
ruscan.calin said:
It seems Acronium requires an unlocked bootloader
for your first flash I recommend to install a stock-based ROM just leave bootloader as it is if you just wanna do this way then use a laptop when flashing /unlocking bootloader cause every failure in bootloader results in a dead-phone then only service tools save your phone -your phone is bricked
so search in that list for a ROM that is stock-based choose one with good howto instructions
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ok thank u
Can you recommend me a fast rom which is working with a locked bootloader, cause i dont want to risk to install a rom, which is not compatible with my phone, and then my phone is broken ..
So if something goes wrong it is NOT possible to restore with CWM recovery?
here some information about my phone:
baseband-version: 8x55A-AAABQOAZM-203028G-72
Kernel-version: 2.6.32.9-perf [email protected] #1
android: 4.0.4
build number: 4.1.8.0.4.31
shiinix said:
ok thank u
Can you recommend me a fast rom which is working with a locked bootloader, cause i dont want to risk to install a rom, which is not compatible with my phone, and then my phone is broken ..
So if something goes wrong it is NOT possible to restore with CWM recovery?
here some information about my phone:
baseband-version: 8x55A-AAABQOAZM-203028G-72
Kernel-version: 2.6.32.9-perf [email protected] #1
android: 4.0.4
build number: 4.1.8.0.4.31
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to unlock bootloader follow instructions on Sony site then you can install whatever you want if you just hesitate better stay on stock ROM also ICS is good enough read here about CWM
ruscan.calin said:
to unlock bootloader follow instructions on Sony site then you can install whatever you want if you just hesitate better stay on stock ROM also ICS is good enough read here about CWM
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if i unlock bootloader i only lose software warranty, or i lose hardware warranty too?
shiinix said:
if i unlock bootloader i only lose software warranty, or i lose hardware warranty too?
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but why not to read on Sony site I don't have this phone read disclaimer on site I gave you the link..
It's obvious hardware is of interest here
shiinix said:
i can unlock, but i dont think it is a good idea for a newby like me to unlock it.
I rooted my phone, cause i wanted to install other fonts and wanted to delete some apps, which were installed, and to customize some
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Ok, but why do you think unlocking bootloader isnt a good idea (cause of factory reset)?
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[Q] XTXperience 9 problem. don't bite my head off guys.

I am pretty new to flashing ROMS and rooting. I rooted my S2 back in 2011. but since then I haven't. So i though I would do it with the Xperia S.
I installed XTXperience 9, unlocked bootloader. rooted n fastboot. I downloaded cwm recovery. cleared everything. installed the ROM, and It has got stuck in boot loop.
I was on the 6.1.A.2.45 firmware if that helps?
could someone please give me some short instructions and tell me what I am doing wrong I need this ROM looks so cool!
Please don't bite my head off either. I need help. it's only way i'll learn
Please someone
If you have unlocked bootloader, why don't you install a custom kernel? Like Advanced ICS Kernel, ELiTE, etc.
Nek0x90 said:
If you have unlocked bootloader, why don't you install a custom kernel? Like Advanced ICS Kernel, ELiTE, etc.
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Not sure how to do that yet. would that possibly fix the boot loop I am having??
I've never installed a recovery manually, because I've always flashed a custom kernel with a recovery included, maybe that's why you're having a boot loop but I'm not sure.
If you already unlocked the bootloader you should flash a stock based kernel and that's it.
Nek0x90 said:
I've never installed a recovery manually, because I've always flashed a custom kernel with a recovery included, maybe that's why you're having a boot loop but I'm not sure.
If you already unlocked the bootloader you should flash a stock based kernel and that's it.
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Okay well I have stock kernal I only tried flashing the ROM. how do I get out of this boot loop?
Flash a stock firmware with Flashtool.
Nek0x90 said:
Flash a stock firmware with Flashtool.
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That did it. back on stock now. should I try flashing the custom ROM again?
Yes, and you can also try flashing a custom kernel.
Just follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527159
Nek0x90 said:
Yes, and you can also try flashing a custom kernel.
Just follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527159
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I unlocked the bootloader before it got in the bootloop. after flashing firmware I guess it is still unlocked. just need to root it again
If you already have you bootloader unlocked just flash a custom kernel! If you flash a ROM after that, it will be pre-rooted.
Nek0x90 said:
If you already have you bootloader unlocked just flash a custom kernel! If you flash a ROM after that, it will be pre-rooted.
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any short instructions or link where I can learn how to install a custom kernel?
hey click my signature "Read ME"
technostein said:
any short instructions or link where I can learn how to install a custom kernel?
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Just download zip & flash in your phone's recovery. Clear cache & dalvik cache before that
Press Thanks
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technostein said:
I am pretty new to flashing ROMS and rooting. I rooted my S2 back in 2011. but since then I haven't. So i though I would do it with the Xperia S.
I installed XTXperience 9, unlocked bootloader. rooted n fastboot. I downloaded cwm recovery. cleared everything. installed the ROM, and It has got stuck in boot loop.
I was on the 6.1.A.2.45 firmware if that helps?
could someone please give me some short instructions and tell me what I am doing wrong I need this ROM looks so cool!
Please don't bite my head off either. I need help. it's only way i'll learn
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I tried with .45. .55 .50 Gb firmwares . Only .50 firmware gave me success like mentioned in the tutorial. :good:
Hit thanks if i helped

[Q] Getting out of a bootloop without CWM

My phone is a Xperia Arc (also known as lt15i) and it is rooted and has an unlocked bootloader.
It runs on Android 2.3.4.
I wanted to install CWM, and followed a guide for that.
Since I can't link the guide, I can just say that it's name was "How to root sony ericsson xperia arc lt15i and install custom rom" and tht is was on listenmefirst.
From that guide, all i did was option 2 for installing CWM.
At the end of the guide, it says "reboot your phone", and I did, and now it's stuck in a boot loop.
I've tried several different keycombinations without anything happening (holding down volume / holding left and right buttons / holding home+volume up). It does however blink a blue light when I hold left and right button, but it seems to have no effect.
So my question is: is there any way to get out of this bootloop?
if you have an unlocked bootloader you can simply flash a kernel that has CWM though fastboot or flashtool
Since your on 2.3.4, this may sound obvious, use a gingerbread kernel.
I used this for pretty much all GB roms i used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172885
AW: [Q] Getting out of a bootloop without CWM
When You have an locked boot loader use x-parts on playstore
(Needs root)
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If root and Unlock border, flash a kernel with CWM
If root using x-part on CH play
yo-meister said:
if you have an unlocked bootloader you can simply flash a kernel that has CWM though fastboot or flashtool
Since your on 2.3.4, this may sound obvious, use a gingerbread kernel.
I used this for pretty much all GB roms i used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172885
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So I can't just flash it over to ICS for example?
rotexor said:
So I can't just flash it over to ICS for example?
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Then you need a kernel that supports ICS.
there's no possible way for me to brick your phone if you already have an unlocked bootloader. You can wipe everything off and start over. Everything can be solved.
rotexor said:
So I can't just flash it over to ICS for example?
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If you just wanted to get out of the bootloop (like your title lol) then you need to flash GB kernel.
If you want to go to ICS you need to put an ICS ROM onto your SD card, flash kernel, then install rom
Thanks for the help, got it out of the bootloop today with flashtool! =)
rotexor said:
got it out of the bootloop today with flashtool! =)
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You could have done that 3 days ago had you read the stickys.
Sent from Myushi
XperienceD said:
You could have done that 3 days ago had you read the stickys.
Sent from Myushi
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I did try to find a solution by reading, but everything I found implied I had CWM.
rotexor said:
I did try to find a solution by reading, but everything I found implied I had CWM.
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Not in my guide, which is a sticky, it doesn't, but as you're sorted now you know what to do in future.

[Q] need some help installing KitSlim on locked BL

hi,
after spending a lot of time in the KitSlim thread i'm getting more and more confused.
One person says do it that way, another suggests a different approach.
i'd like to install the KitSlim Evo9 from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743177
I'm currently running a stock 4.4.4 rooted with locked bootloader and a dualrecovery on my Z1C
- boot in TWRP
- do all the wipes
- flash the Rom from SD1
- without reboot flash the gapps
- power off
- use the flashtool to flash the 108 NUTStockKernel
- reboot & done
My Questions so far:
Is this order correct?
does the Rom file need to be on the internal Storage or would the SDCard also work?
Is the NutStockKernel ok for my locked BL, or do i just need to flash a standart 108Kernel file?
(Some say the NutStockKernel is only for unlocked Bootloader, some say it's for locked BL)
Does this NutStockKernel come with a dualrecovery?
Some even suggest not to flash a Kernel because i'm allready on a 4.4.4_108 !?
thanks in advance for answers!
the more i read here the harder it seems to get ^^ but i'll try.
this is a great community!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54777670
This is the process I used, worked fine.
thanks for the reply. i'll give it a go then.
If you already have fw.108 on your phone, you don't need to flash NUTs kernel.
Didgesteve said:
If you already have fw.108 on your phone, you don't need to flash NUTs kernel.
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does that mean, that the dual recovery will still be there?
(as far as i understand the recovery is in the kernel)
or does the recovery come with the ROM? cause it says in the thread that dual recovery is built in
schnitzelpete said:
does that mean, that the dual recovery will still be there?
(as far as i understand the recovery is in the kernel)
or does the recovery come with the ROM? cause it says in the thread that dual recovery is built in
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Recovery is built into the rom, so whatever you do don't flash nuts recovery again after kitslim or you'll end up in bootloop and have to start from scratch flashing a stock rom.
So coming from a stock rom fw.108, with root and recovery (but locked bootloader) go into recovery, wipe system wipe cache&dalvik (don't reboot) flash the Evo9 then the Full gapps, that's it.
Even if it goes horribly wrong, you still won't unlock the bootloader, and rebuilds are so easy now thanks to Easyroot
thx for the advice. i did it and it's running on my phone now \o/
runs great, and no bugs encountered yet!
still got some questions.
are there any restrictions to what software to install with KitSlim running?
schnitzelpete said:
thx for the advice. i did it and it's running on my phone now \o/
runs great, and no bugs encountered yet!
still got some questions.
are there any restrictions to what software to install with KitSlim running?
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I think you should head over to the KitSlim thread, but no, it's just the same as a stock rom, install what you like. Although pay attention to which modules you install with Xposed, as some of them can clash.
i need 10 posts min. to post there, thats why i asked here.

[Solved] Bootloop after booloader unlock

Hi everyone!
So after unlocking my bootloader following Sony's guide, I restarted the phone but it got stuck in the bootanimation. The good news is that I had flashed CWM, the bad news is that the phone still gets stuck on the boot animation even With the Official CyanogenMod 11...
I really don't know what I must do and I can't find something concrete about my problem.
The bootloader can be unlocked, I've tested (with the code) before attempting anything. I have also the 4.3 update and followed a guide. I did flash the boot.img via fastboot. That's it. And the Xperia M I'm owning is a C1905.
I hope you people can help me, thanks in advance !
This happened to me the other day. Just reflash the 4.3 with flashtool, it will fix the bootloop. After that you can do whatever you want. Here is a link to download the stuff you need:
http://xperiafirmware.com/8-firmware/40-sony-xperia-m-c1905
Cheers
First of all use questions and troubleshooting section... I have to report the thread to be moved.
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Second of all you do not have any problem.
The point is that you unlocked the bootloader while you have a rooted modified rom, right?
So after unlocking it do a factory reset, and due to modified system partition you are stuck on boot screen.
The solution is very simple, use flash tool and flash android 4.3 tft.
Then start your phone and make sure it boot up at least one time on stock firmware before starting with cm11 flash procedures.
Good-luck.
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didije said:
This happened to me the other day. Just reflash the 4.3 with flashtool, it will fix the bootloop. After that you can do whatever you want. Here is a link to download the stuff you need [...]
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Ohh thank you ! I've downloaded the *.tft and flashed it back, after a long flashing process, it worked. What's not cool is that it took too ling to boot and all that time I was very very stressed xD !
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The point is that you unlocked the bootloader while you have a rooted modified rom, right?
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Not really, I tried to unlock the bootloader with the stock ROM so I could root it, install CWM and install other ROMs, flasing back the *.tft fixed that, thanks for the advice ! Finally, I'm really sorry for posting in the wrong thread, I was a little bit stressed and struggling for help ^^' ...
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Thank you and sorry again .

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