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I am new to this community (this may even be one of my first posts, i cant remeber) but ive read alot of what is going on.
this is no matter what people say a good site....but recently its unbearably slow which is really killing the community sharing help etc, the ftp got wiped out, im sure alot of the members who put worki into that are extremely annoyed, and finally there are so many people on the forum posing the same old 'help i did this' stuff...which leads to the conclusion that the faqs need an update.
well i am unsure of who the admin(s) are but it looks like you guys are struggling or do not have the time to solve these issues on your own.... which i can appreciate.
so i for one would like to offer some help...and im sure the older more experienced members would lend a hand too.
my initial thoughts would be to get some of you veterans to update the faqs try to incorporate the whole upgrading and downgrading as simply as possible... far too many ppl are trying 2005. o and a nice clear sign about the mda3 unlocking.
the other thing i feel is a necessary step is to make the ftp readonly to normal users and have a set of superusers with write access...these would be the people that use it the most or are well respected members...if someone other than them have something worth uploading then they need to send it to a superuser to check and do... its a minor point but it would provide some security without hindering those superusers that need to upload regularly.
finally the slowness.. i dont know whats causing it but theres a solution to every problem...if the server has a low throughput im sure i read somewhere someones company was willing to donate a dedicated server to our cause...wouldnt evev need donations with that.
well theres my 2 pence what do you guys think? i want this community to keep going..the only way thats gonna happen is by putting some effort in!
Tim
I wholeheartedly agree.
In recent months there has been a real decline in the quality of this forum, and though it's not particularly anyone's fault, there is SO much repetition and laziness by so many people who post the same questions AGAIN and AGAIN without taking the time to search first. There's fresh examples of this within the past day!
I don't know how others feel, but as far as I'm concerned there are certain rules that should be followed if a forum is to keep it's usefulness and keep to a structured order. I used to run one many moons ago so I know what I'm talking about. Firstly, people seem to post wherever they want, regardless of content. I can't count the number of times I've seen "help crashed my XDA2 going up to WM2003SE" in General or Development/Hacking. 99 times out of 100 it will be the Country ID error, something I've read about so many times I could now fix in my sleep. I can understand people's panic when this happens as it happened to me as well, but what I did was calm down, get on here and search for Country ID errors. Low and behold, DCS and edSub to the rescue and within half an hour I was back on the road to Upgradeville.
Secondly, there's been a general increase in the rudeness of people posting; from new members and old. Some think that it's OK to post half their question in the Subject, then go "anyone got any ideas?". Then when there's no response within a few hours, the same poster is back saying "no one seen this?" or with some insult about people not helping. Even I've had an odd dig the odd time, so I know how easily it happens.
Thirdly, the WM2005 interest is hacking me off. I can appreciate it if it solves the problems of those using it over 2003SE, but (and I can't believe I'M saying this) just cos it's out there doesn't mean we have to have it - especially considering the risks of such a topic. I'm no legal expert on this but I know MS have been coming down HARD on ANYONE hosting or posting screenshots / divulging information about an alpha product (AFAIK). I wish the moderators would remove this, and then emphasise, as they have done on tekguru, that they will not comment / tolerate any hosting or screenshots etc. I don't want to see this site shut down, and I've posted about it before, only to find a few days later some idiot HAS uploaded the files to the FTP. I bet it hasn't helped the recent slowness, quite aside from its illegality!!
http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/index.php?article=5813
I agree Tim, I too would love to lend a hand where needed. I would be happy to help with constructing more up to date FAQs like on tekguru, and I completely agree that FTP needs to be readonly to all new users and most regular members also (prob inc me :shock: ). This site needs to get back on track, as it's still by far the most useful and helpsite resource for XDA/MDA/whatever and I would hate to see it go down the pan.
Ant
glad to see i'm not the only one willing to lend a hand
if we can get a few more people willing to help then it wont take very long at all to get this place going well again
I think Admins have abandoned XDA-Developers site time ago,but in some topics I read that they were busy with the Xanadux Project(Linux port),try to ask more to Peter Poelman e Lumpistefan about admins. 8)
So,I agree partially,there is no return from hold Win2k5,we need to keep it, we are a community,we will not share it in the FTP for security but need to know more about it,reverse it. You can't stop the knowoledge! Also Win2k3SE for XDA2,it is not officially announced,but you can read plenty of posts.
Some minor things to Upgrade,Improve in this site are:
-Create a CHAT in the site: Many users will benefit to this live communication,not only posts.
-NEW Profiles: add XDA3,Magician,etc..options
-Avatars disappeared, admin told it is for couple of weeks,some months ago.
-Improve the Search engine: Did you try to search something? it will return too many post,unrelated.
-Find and fix why XDA-Developers is so slow.
heh you just reminded me...the chat thing
i thought it would be nice to do an irc channel
and thanks for the info i will email peter... if the admins are busy with xanadux thats fine (im quite interested in the project) but we could do with someone to step in and keep this place running (peter?) and to organise a team to do what we all see as the issues.
as to the legality of win mob 2005...ive never cared about legal issues personally...but from the point of view of admin it must be removed off of xda dev...if someone hosts it somewhere and links it in a foum be it on their head... but xda dev cannot host it for their own safety
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as to the legality of win mob 2005...ive never cared about legal issues personally...but from the point of view of admin it must be removed off of xda dev...if someone hosts it somewhere and links it in a foum be it on their head... but xda dev cannot host it for their own safety
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Exactly, MS have shut down sites for simply having posted screenshots, or at least told them in no uncertain terms, to remove them. To find we have uploaded installation files to this site is a big concern to me and MUST be sorted.
Count me in!
Hi all,
I've been scrounging through these forums for a while now and have learnt a lot - cheers to all with the knowledge who are willing to share. I've managed to unlock XDA 1, 2 and 2s (ok, had to pay to sim unlock MDA3 - but found the link here! ;-) ) recently as mentioned we have a painfully slow site, a simple search provides 50 pages of mostly unrelated threads, 10 pages of which are all about the same thing! I'm more than happy to help sort out some proper FAQ pages; I've cocked up on ROM flashing due to country ID too! It's a panicky situation - none of us wants a 200-400 pound paperweight! In short - count me in for hands on help, I'd love to learn more but also help the others out a bit.
Mike
well i sent a pm to peter and no reply as yet (its only been a day so im not giving up yet) but i just read another post of someone tring to get in contact and he seemed to have very little luck... im running out of ideas here i want to help but if the main ppl are not around then we cant really do much... it looks like the admin team have gone completely awol ... im almost tempted to say we should find someon willing to do free hosting (someone mentioned it in one of th forums) and mirror the site...but that defeats the idea of having one nice place... id raher fix than replace....anyone got any ideas?
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try to ask more to Peter Poelman e Lumpistefan about admins. 8)
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I'm far away being an admin or anything else here. :roll: I'm just a normal user as you are...
But I've talked to a few of the xda-deveolpers team at the fair cebit in the middle of march. They have lot of work, so this maybe the point why they aren't so often in the forum. And i think for 99% the community just works well without any of those "admins"...
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-NEW Profiles: add XDA3,Magician,etc..options
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The profiles (XDA and XDA II) are a special patch for the phpBB-Software. Sadly this patch do not allow more than two profiles. This is the case why only those 2 profiles exists and why the forum is splitted in seperate sections (XDA, XDA II, MAgician, Blueangel, ...)
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Stefan
hey thanks for the info lumpistefan
tis a bit of a shame we cant get hold of someone able to solve the slowness and ftp issue!
with regards to the faq's im gonna try and make an introduction to the himalaya cover sim lock flashing and a few other important things in my spare time if anyone feels like working on the other hansets feel free.. my plan is to do it over next couple of weeks and post it for review make sure i cover everything.
Looks like the site is starting to get quicker again.
Well done to who ever fixed this.
Much more enjoyable browsing through the posts.
Keep up the good work.
Amphetamine dust on the cpu did the trick.
Thank you tim_programmer for starting this topic.
I am coming towards the end of a project that's been keeping me busy. Once finished, I would be happy to lend a hand also.
Whilst lumpistefan has a point about admins, I believe they are needed. Human nature dictates that while the cat's away the mice will play. Trouble is, some of the mice (the 1%) are turning into rats
As regards WM2005, although I don't agree in censorship in that we should be able to discuss it, etc., it is obvious that Microsoft are not going to tolerate very much and we (the site) are on very thin ice by allowing hosting of content and links, etc. Again, it is the admins duty to sort this out. We have pushed the envelope with stuff before, but that involved already released products.
Some of us reverse, some of us hack. We can still do that when WM2005 is released officially (in whatever language )
i agree server has got quicker...tis nice
with regards to wm2005 its only the hosting im concerned with everything else like discussing hacking reverse engineering go for it!
Ummm.... (I'm feeling like I might regret this...) it wouldn't be that hard to start an alternative website for these machines. Not that I wish to minimise the huge contribution made by xda-developers.com to the understanding and improving of these HTC devices, but if the admins on this site don't have the time to moderate it and manage it and don't respond to offers of help or support then perhaps we should form an alternative?
I'm a web developer and have worked in the past with the Minerva forum/website package ( www.project-minerva.org ) and it's very very good when you're looking for a website-in-a-box. It wouldn't be so hard to set it up and try to take some of the load off xda-developers.com while acknowledging the work that's been done here so far.
Edit - as for the site getting quicker, well it isn't for me. Just took 5 minutes to submit this post...
I don't often look at this site these days because the speed is so bad. It'll be losing regulars already I'm sure.
wow. this hasn't been posted in in forever. Sorry to revive this but there is some good info here. I want to help get this site back on track as well. I have tons of free time to dedicate as well.
Yep, got to agree. The main problem is lazyness by posters. No one reads http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534.
There are so many infringements of 1,2,and 5.
But what can you do ? You can't just ban people, because its normally just done once or twice by somebody when they are desperate for a solution.
The problem here is, as was said higher up, the number of threads on the same subject almost makes the search useless because it is hard to find the one with the definitive answer. I try to help people but when you see a question that has been asked numerous times before you think "why should I bother, I'll have to search to point hime in the correct direction, so why can't he"
What I did suggest was that duplicated posts/repeated topics were moved to a repetition bin, and deleted after a week. But at the moment the amount of work for the mods each day would be huge.
I agree with everythig that has been said in this post, I have been browsing xda-developers for about 3 years now, altho i have only been registered about a year, as my contribution has been very little.
However i feel that my knowledge has increase greatly, mainly due to this site, and i would love to help with FAQ's, Admin, Reviews, and anything else you guys want help with. I dont have a lot of free time, but any that i do have i will gladly donate to xda-developers in the hope that we can make this site what it used to be.
I think it is obvious that something needs to be done, but at the moment we only have suggestions and unless someone steps forward with a solution that is all this post is going to be. (this sounds a bit harsh, sorry).
So here's to keeping the community alive.
Dahquim
kevino said:
Yep, got to agree. The main problem is lazyness by posters. No one reads http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534.
What I did suggest was that duplicated posts/repeated topics were moved to a repetition bin, and deleted after a week. But at the moment the amount of work for the mods each day would be huge.
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This would be a massive task, sure, but a site this big could do with more moderators to move and delete duplicate posts. There are a lot of people who have been a member of this site for quite some time who I am sure wouldn't mind chipping in to help if they were asked, I know I would like the chance to give more back to this site after the help, support and knowledge I have gained. How many moderators do we have at the moment? Just my thoughts, I love this forum and would love to help improve it.
domain expires this year!
kevino said:
Yep, got to agree. The main problem is lazyness by posters. No one reads http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534.
There are so many infringements of 1,2,and 5.
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Yes but that's your standard problem on all forums. The underlying problem is that the administrators have abandoned us. We need a few full time mods to make everything runs smoother. A LOT needs to be updated.
One of the biggest problems i noticed with the site immediately was it's speed. The one place we can improove the sites speed almost instantly is the search. There is NO search flood control in place. There is also no limit on the minimum size of a search string. So it's capturing at the at, or, it, to, etc. searches. Id needs to have wildcards enabled. and filter out two letter searches. (maybe even three, but with the phone names the filtering might just be a pain)
Also i don't know if anyone realizes but www.xda-developers.com will expire on 12/12 of 2006. I have emailed the person that is registered under the domain name and haven't received a reply yet. If i don't soon I may just go to a third party and reserve the domain when it expires. Although there's also the problem of getting all the infinite information off this guys server which is probably sitting in his basement in the netherlands.
It would be ideal to get another server and mirror this site on it as .net or something. But i don't know if we currently have enough traffic to generate the kind of revenue needed to keep the thing paid for.
And as a side note. Does anyone know how i can download from the ftp? It just disconnects me instantly with flashfxp, firefox, or ie.
[edit] also the search needs to have more options and a "titles only" search would greatly help narrow things down. There needs to be a "README: How to search" sticky detailing boolean searches.
Hello Everyone. I have a Softbank running the latest black release, and I also updated the radio to the latest one available. I didn't have my handset long before I flashed it with the newer ROMs or radios so I have very little to compare with stock performance. Anyways, the last couple of nights when I started using my BT Headset (HBH-610) more, I noticed my calls would hang and when I check the phone, the signal quickly drops. So I resume the call and it does it again. Finally I turned BT off and just used the speakerphone and I didn't have the call drop issues. It's just a guess but is it possible that the BT is having interference with my calls? If so, how do I remedy this issue? Is there a known radio version that works better with the BT enabled an in use? I apologize for my ignorance on the matter, as I am fairly new to the Windows Mobile world, any help on this is greatly appreciated.
It's morons like you that make JJ loose his cool, and pull ROMs. Before you post something, starting a NEW THREAD to ask a question that belongs on an existing thread, try to learn how to use the SEARCH function. It's not there only for looks.
In fact, it's people like you that make ALL of us on here roll our collective eyes, and mutter something about how much of a ****wit you are. In fact, I keep thinking of a George Carlin quote:
"Think of how stupid the average person is. Now, realize that half the people out there are dumber than that!"
You, sir, have just proven that you are part of that other half.
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It's morons like you that make JJ loose his cool, and pull ROMs. Before you post something, starting a NEW THREAD to ask a question that belongs on an existing thread, try to learn how to use the SEARCH function. It's not there only for looks.
In fact, it's people like you that make ALL of us on here roll our collective eyes, and mutter something about how much of a ****wit you are. In fact, I keep thinking of a George Carlin quote:
"Think of how stupid the average person is. Now, realize that half the people out there are dumber than that!"
You, sir, have just proven that you are part of that other half.
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There are some real nasty pieces of work on this board, and some decent helpful, albiet sometimes frustrated members.
It think it's clear to anyone reading your post which half your in. Don't bother flaming me I won't reply to YOU.
I just had to say something, the lack of humanity around here is getting disturbing.
I'm assuming your thinking that I thought the problem exists because of the Black Firmware. I appologize if that's what you think I was implying but it is not, I was wondering if anyone in general who is runing Windows Mobile 6 was having an issue. If I would have though it was the Black ROM that was causing the issue I would have posted in that thread.
eaglesrest said:
There are some real nasty pieces of work on this board, and some decent helpful, albiet sometimes frustrated members.
It think it's clear to anyone reading your post which half your in. Don't bother flaming me I won't reply to YOU.
I just had to say something, the lack of humanity around here is getting disturbing.
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here here... I've been doing a hell of a lot of reading on this hermes unit, like I did with all my dell axims before it. During this reading I've come to the same conclusion. Very well expressed, Eaglesrest.
I'm with LegolasTheElf here, there are a couple of issues with BT and Black 3.01, which if the person in question had bothered to search the original post, would have found.
I know it's harsh, but we have to think for ourselves and search the forum before adding to noise that's here!
Matt
LegolasTheElf said:
It's morons like you that make JJ loose his cool, and pull ROMs. Before you post something, starting a NEW THREAD to ask a question that belongs on an existing thread, try to learn how to use the SEARCH function. It's not there only for looks.
In fact, it's people like you that make ALL of us on here roll our collective eyes, and mutter something about how much of a ****wit you are. In fact, I keep thinking of a George Carlin quote:
"Think of how stupid the average person is. Now, realize that half the people out there are dumber than that!"
You, sir, have just proven that you are part of that other half.
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Well, well, well. We certainly have sunk to the bottom of the "Trailer Trash" rung.
Can you not express yourself without cussing! (swearing)
This forum is enjoyed by Juniors and ladies. If you don't know how to behave, stop posting!
I too get annoyed with Noob's not reading the posts, but I just ignore them.
Get a life man!
Hi, I'm using android on my tilt 2 right now and like it quite a bit. However, I won't use it full time because it doesn't have sound support or camera support, or bluetooth lol.
Do we have an ETA for those things?
Also, would someone please instruct me as to how I can find/measure the hardware interrupts of the device so that I may pass the info along to some other developers I know who don't have an HTC phone.
Thanks
Smith
i feel a flaming coming on... you might want to read some threads before speaking in here...
It's an honest enough question here.
I don't mean to seem impatient, because i'm not. I'm happy with what there is. Was simply wondering, especially because I may be able to contribute to the project.
If you're going to flame though, I guess it's time to get your caps-lock on. Won't bother me.
You could have asked this in one of the main threads... or used the search function to search for your answer which has been all along "when we get it we get it... no eta"
Seems pointless to start a new thread on this thats all
smithisize said:
It's an honest enough question here.
I don't mean to seem impatient, because i'm not. I'm happy with what there is. Was simply wondering, especially because I may be able to contribute to the project.
If you're going to flame though, I guess it's time to get your caps-lock on. Won't bother me.
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No one questions your honesty. It is just that this topic has been discussed ad nauseum. It would have been easier for you to just to do a simple search.
...It's an honest enough answer here.
HeXeD said:
i feel a flaming coming on... you might want to read some threads before speaking in here...
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haha.. a good roast always teaches you to use the search function anyways .lol
smithisize said:
Hi, I'm using android on my tilt 2 right now and like it quite a bit. However, I won't use it full time because it doesn't have sound support or camera support, or bluetooth lol.
Do we have an ETA for those things?
Also, would someone please instruct me as to how I can find/measure the hardware interrupts of the device so that I may pass the info along to some other developers I know who don't have an HTC phone.
Thanks
Smith
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Last I heard was something about by July, but refusing to lock it down to a specific year.
no1 knows man, it will come out when it comes out ,just gotta wait
This question has been asked many times in this forums, but at the current state for the Rhodium, we don't have drivers for the sound from what I have heard.
As for bluetooth, I am not sure what the current state is, but I heard that the bluetooth is a completely different from other devices that HTC has made.
Kenichi
Maybe we should make this a sticky for those who can't read too good or are too lazy to use the search option. Kind of getting tired of going through the main thread and half the posts are just the same regurgitated questions. Or maybe we should create a ban if the same question has been asked more than say 3 times.
If you want to help there is some IRC channel or something I think I remember reading. or PM phhusson maybe? He seems to be heavily involved.
In case you didnt notice, people are a little sensitive about the sound/camera questions around here. Probably because they were flamed for asking it too It almost like it is the first question everyone asks when running android for the first time.
cameraand sound?
I think that's like asking when exactly will Windows Phone 7 come out, or when will the next solar eclipse be, maybe even, where did you put your keys last?
When people get it to work is when you will have it. I don't think anyone knows exactly how it works, something to do with hardware issues, so until it's cracked/figured out there can't be a date.
roast him !!!!
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I think that's like asking when exactly will Windows Phone 7 come out, or when will the next solar eclipse be, maybe even, where did you put your keys last?
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That's it! I now know we're getting sound and bluetooth on July 11th this year, at precisely 19:34:38 UTC!
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEmono/TSE2010/TSE2010.html
Sorry, couldn't resist Gotta admit, eclipses are really interesting things. Maybe read about 'em to pass the time while the chefs continue do their awesome work on these difficult technological puzzles.
really
some of you guys are funny and make jokes about it which is funny and tolerable, but then we have those "followers" that repeat what is already stated (roast em this and that it was said already really how many posts do we have to see about that.) its a forum, it a community and give positive help and stop always cherping because a. u probably didnt have the nadz to roast anyone and b. really you didnt have to come to the post to read it you could have easliy went to the next one. its ten times easier to give help and pass a joke damn stop being so uptight become a leader not a follower...pretty much everything is unknown till they release it or they mention it on the site, but feel as thou the camera will probably be the last thing thou if they do get it to work properly (all speculative based on the fuze)
A good read: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=121743
Well, it's good to see some positive feedback on here
I appreciate all of your guys' answers!
I came accross this video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6pr8AJxbg
It is showing a working speaker while in-call @ 4min.
How's that possible ?
I guess it was a mistake making the ARM9 launch the rear-speaker when in call, but can't that help ?
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I came accross this video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6pr8AJxbg
It is showing a working speaker while in-call @ 4min.
How's that possible ?
I guess it was a mistake making the ARM9 launch the rear-speaker when in call, but can't that help ?
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he was using the speakerphone when he booted android. you know, it seems a lot of crap is dependant upon being active in windows for it to work in android (keyboard backlight, front hardkey lights, etc.). i wonder is there a way to make everything active at boot time, like camera, speaker, etc etc. not saying it would magically make the stuff work properly, but might make it easier to mess with some stuff to try n get it working ?
I was thinking the same thing, I tried playing music when I started up android.. no luck, and the speaker phone is just a line the the startup.txt if Im remembering correctly
Just switched from Verizon a few days ago. I had a note 3 there as well. I am now on my fourth phone. The first three were black Note 3s and the GPS was unusable almost non functional. Got a white one from a new shipment as my fourth and while it is weak compared to our other phones, it is accurate enough to get around. I just want to make sure everyone thinks to check GPS before their return period is up as there is a bad batch out there. My first three even comprised of phones from two different phones. Good luck!
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Meant to say comprised of phones from two different stores. XDA premium won't let me edit. Sorry.
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A Samsung device... with a bad GPS? NEVER!
Ummm... its pretty much common knowledge by now that Samsung devices have finicky GPSes. I've had a Captivate, an S3, and an S4. GPS issues with all of them that took some tweaking to figure out.
Unfortunately, its not a hardware issue. Its a Samsung issue, most likely relating to baseband programming.
One thing that might fix it is forcing your phone to use HSPA only when you're using your GPS. On previous Samsung phones, network switching would kill the GPS every time so it doesn't seem far-fetched to think they still haven't fixed it now.
I just got my Note 3 last Friday so like 5 days ago. I have no issues with my GPS, it locks in about 8 seconds. I did have to turn on both GPS and Google location settings in Maps settings and it was fine. I don't use Maps often so i turn off Google location settings until i need them.
My GPS is was pretty weak too. It would take about a minute to get a lock, and when navigating down a freeway it would usually think I'm on the service drive next to it and constantly tell me to turn, etc... Strangely after flashing Willl03s cm11 my GPS locks right away and navigation is dead nuts.
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I have no problems got my note 3 in oct.
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Got mine launch day along with my Girl and both have flawless GPS
Official CM11 Powered SM-N900T
You're lucky. My HTC and Motorola phones had much better GPS. And I've had Samsung phones since the Moment. I'm willing to accept these shortcomings to have a device that is far superior in just about every other aspect.
It might be software issue or a bad app. I told op in his other thread the steps to take. Never heard back.
TWEAKED 1.0 NOTE 3
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A Samsung device... with a bad GPS? NEVER!
Ummm... its pretty much common knowledge by now that Samsung devices have finicky GPSes. I've had a Captivate, an S3, and an S4. GPS issues with all of them that took some tweaking to figure out.
Unfortunately, its not a hardware issue. Its a Samsung issue, most likely relating to baseband programming.
One thing that might fix it is forcing your phone to use HSPA only when you're using your GPS. On previous Samsung phones, network switching would kill the GPS every time so it doesn't seem far-fetched to think they still haven't fixed it now.
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Ummm... you are right that it is common knowledge, but unfortunately finicky doesn't equate to non-functional. Just trying to prevent people from ending up with a phone that has a useless feature. I now have a proper "finicky" Samsung GPS on my fourth phone.
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It might be software issue or a bad app. I told op in his other thread the steps to take. Never heard back.
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Did everything you said, on several phones. I had mentioned that, you may have overlooked it. These were problems I was having on out of the box phones, so roms and rooting at that point were irrelevant.
These phones tend to turn the actually GPS on for battery. Took me a while to figure it out. Make sure that us actually on then try again. Mine was fine to start then a little while ago it had issues. Turns out the GPS was off. All that is on is Google location with WiFi.
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Ummm... you are right that it is common knowledge, but unfortunately finicky doesn't equate to non-functional. Just trying to prevent people from ending up with a phone that has a useless feature. I now have a proper "finicky" Samsung GPS on my fourth phone.
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If it was a useless feature, there would be a huge uproar about it all over XDA.
Generally when someone goes on the sarcastic defensive, it means they know they did something wrong that they didn't do on their "working" phone. Just saying.
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If it was a useless feature, there would be a huge uproar about it all over XDA.
Generally when someone goes on the sarcastic defensive, it means they know they did something wrong that they didn't do on their "working" phone. Just saying.
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Are you serious right now? I am not an idiot when it comes to android phones. I have had many. I also am familiar with Samsung and GPS issues. I had an experience where 3 phones functioned as if they had no GPS antenna what so ever. I cleared GPS data, I downloaded the assistance data. I tried the NTP trick. Obviously I know it is not a common problem which is why I thought there was a possibility that there is a bad batch floating around out there. If you are so bored and aggitated that you feel the need to give me sarcastic condescending responses in response to me trying to simply be helpful, then I feel that speaks for itself. Next time if I feel I have something helpful to contribute I guess I will just keep it to myself. Asking people to check their GPS in the timespan of 14 days...how dare me. Sorry XDA
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Are you serious right now? I am not an idiot when it comes to android phones. I have had many. I also am familiar with Samsung and GPS issues. I had an experience where 3 phones functioned as if they had no GPS antenna what so ever. I cleared GPS data, I downloaded the assistance data. I tried the NTP trick. Obviously I know it is not a common problem which is why I thought there was a possibility that there is a bad batch floating around out there. If you are so bored and aggitated that you feel the need to give me sarcastic condescending responses in response to me trying to simply be helpful, then I feel that speaks for itself. Next time if I feel I have something helpful to contribute I guess I will just keep it to myself. Asking people to check their GPS in the timespan of 14 days...how dare me. Sorry XDA
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Sarcasm gets sarcasm. Can't take the heat? Get out of the sun.
You didn't specify any specifics as to what you tried in your first post and you've had cheeky responses to everyone else, what did you expect we were going to do, give you a shiny medal?
All of this that you just posted should have been in your first post. Your first post basically tells anyone who's having any GPS issue to return their phone but outlines nothing about what you did to attempt to fix it. Don't you think that's just a little bit important to put troubleshooting steps in a post when you're making a statement that there is a bad batch going around?
It isn't rocket science.
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Sarcasm gets sarcasm. Can't take the heat? Get out of the sun.
You didn't specify any specifics as to what you tried in your first post and you've had cheeky responses to everyone else, what did you expect we were going to do, give you a shiny medal?
All of this that you just posted should have been in your first post. Your first post basically tells anyone who's having any GPS issue to return their phone but outlines nothing about what you did to attempt to fix it. Don't you think that's just a little bit important to put troubleshooting steps in a post when you're making a statement that there is a bad batch going around?
It isn't rocket science.
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Wow you're a rude douche. Are you always that big of an a-hole to people who are just trying to be helpful? Lose the attitude man, it's not like his post is that big of an inconvenience to you.
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Sarcasm gets sarcasm. Can't take the heat? Get out of the sun.
You didn't specify any specifics as to what you tried in your first post and you've had cheeky responses to everyone else, what did you expect we were going to do, give you a shiny medal?
All of this that you just posted should have been in your first post. Your first post basically tells anyone who's having any GPS issue to return their phone but outlines nothing about what you did to attempt to fix it. Don't you think that's just a little bit important to put troubleshooting steps in a post when you're making a statement that there is a bad batch going around?
It isn't rocket science.
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Go back and read your first response to this post and then talk about cheeky.
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Go back and read your first response to this post and then talk about cheeky.
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I think I stated why I was being cheeky in my last post. The information that you put in your previous post should have been in the first one. Since it wasn't, it was logical to assume that you didn't know what you were doing. I wouldn't have said anything if you didn't turn around and have another cheeky quote to someone else which you also apparently thought deserved a second post all of its own.
There would have been no cheeky responses if you had been up front with all of the information in your original post.
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Wow you're a rude douche. Are you always that big of an a-hole to people who are just trying to be helpful? Lose the attitude man, it's not like his post is that big of an inconvenience to you.
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See the above. There really ought to be a school for how to formulate one's original post when starting a new thread with a test that you have to pass before you can ever post. If everyone posted threads saying that people should return a device based on issues they were having but with no details as to what specifically makes that device faulty, we would have people returning devices in droves for no good reason whatsoever. Don't attack me for doing what most others want to do or have done in the past and just given up on.
He didn't say to return the phone, he was simply saying to make sure the GPS worked okay before the 14 day return window was up. Really no harm in it, a better course of action on your part would have been to simply clarify some things that OP should have included in your first response instead of being a douche. Might as well close this thread OP since nobody can try to be helpful without getting flamed.
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Well let's just go ahead and go through all the points that your elitist mind has presented here. I create a post indicating that I had 3 bad GPS's, I suggested that everyone check theirs within the 14 day return period (completely reasonable and a nice reminder even if there isn't any concern of bad gps phones floating around). This is how you responded.
You: A Samsung device... with a bad GPS? NEVER!
Yes we all know Samsung's have quirky GPS, sarcasm at this point was already inappropriate and rude considering I was only offering a helpful suggestion.
You: Ummm... its pretty much common knowledge by now that Samsung devices have finicky GPSes. I've had a Captivate, an S3, and an S4. GPS issues with all of them that took some tweaking to figure out.
Assuming I am stupid and all problems I am having our user generated (even if they were, no reason for this, it never hurts to check the basic functionality of your device before your return period). Also rude and inappropriate.
I then respond to being attacked for no reason with an Ummm... of my own. Completely justified.
You: If it was a useless feature, there would be a huge uproar about it all over XDA. Generally when someone goes on the sarcastic defensive, it means they know they did something wrong that they didn't do on their "working" phone. Just saying.
Assuming again I am stupid and only providing a helpful tip for people as some sort of method for making up for stupidity (What did I do to deserve this?) This is also you assuming that there is no such thing as defective phones that aren't widespread in nature (also wrong and proven to be many times)
At this point I try to defend myself again and explain I am not an idiot and your responses to me trying to be helpful are rude and inappropriate.
You: Sarcasm gets sarcasm. Can't take the heat? Get out of the sun.
Makes no sense, since you were the first to start in with the sarcasm, and can't take the heat? XDA is not the wild wild west and you are not some edgy sheriff patrolling the dusty streets for posts that don't have all the information you think they should. This is a forum about a smart phone... get real.
You: You didn't specify any specifics as to what you tried in your first post and you've had cheeky responses to everyone else, what did you expect we were going to do, give you a shiny medal?
This is XDA, not Samsung support forums, not T-Mobile support forums, not Android Central. If you know how to root your phone then you should know how to properly check for a functioning GPS. My post was targeted at the same audience as XDA as a whole is targeted towards. My post was straight to the point and indicated my experience and general advice to check functionality within your return period. I am not here to educate on the specifics of troubleshooting a GPS. There are lots of other posts for that, and if I had, I have a suspicion that the big bad sheriff would be in town again to tell me I was re posting something. I also never indicated that I deserved any kind of credit for posting this. All I had was the bare minimum expectation that some condescending jerk wouldn't give me **** for doing nothing but trying to be helpful. My only "cheeky" response was towards you, no one else.
You: It isn't rocket science.
You're right, it's not.
You: If everyone posted threads saying that people should return a device based on issues they were having but with no details as to what specifically makes that device faulty, we would have people returning devices in droves for no good reason whatsoever.
Never advised anyone to return it, I said to check your GPS within your return period on the off chance there are more than a few defective units.
Thanks for ruining this thread and also being a cancer to this community by deterring others from providing helpful information. Perhaps the only solution for you would be to have XDA run every post by you before allowing it's publication. As someone else indicated, if your reasons for flaming me were truly out of concern for the content of my posts, your first objective would have been to add the information you felt was missed.
It seems nowadays that these forums have become a total waste to anyone if you dont have the latest devices or what help with rooting them. Other than that there is no interest in sharing or helpinp others anymore. I have posts that were posted in various forums,some months ago already and have had absolutely no feedback on them.
What is the point of even posting anything anymore,if nobody out there is bothered to help with advice,sharing files,apk's,mods etc anymore. I am really disappointed that the community in general seems to have just given up on anything other than the latest and greatest.
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It seems nowadays that these forums have become a total waste to anyone if you dont have the latest devices or what help with rooting them. Other than that there is no interest in sharing or helpinp others anymore. I have posts that were posted in various forums,some months ago already and have had absolutely no feedback on them.
What is the point of even posting anything anymore,if nobody out there is bothered to help with advice,sharing files,apk's,mods etc anymore. I am really disappointed that the community in general seems to have just given up on anything other than the latest and greatest.
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The android phone market is a trap that many people fall into. Yesterday, we were buying smarthphones to make them last, and Xda was there to give these phones a second life. But today, people are buying phones because they MUST buy. It's become a fashion accessory, and this consumption pattern has affected the look of the forum. The world of new technologies no longer takes the time to live, unfortunately ...
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It seems nowadays that these forums have become a total waste to anyone if you dont have the latest devices or what help with rooting them. Other than that there is no interest in sharing or helpinp others anymore. I have posts that were posted in various forums,some months ago already and have had absolutely no feedback on them.
What is the point of even posting anything anymore,if nobody out there is bothered to help with advice,sharing files,apk's,mods etc anymore. I am really disappointed that the community in general seems to have just given up on anything other than the latest and greatest.
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I would like to point out something you may have missed, i could be mistaken. However, this is (my reply) is truly valid.
I have modded smart phones and devices, i usually follow tutorials, Even if i may seem invisible. With that said, yes the infrastructure of technology is to move forward and "keep up'. I believe you missed what xda-developers means.
You don't need to keep up with the trends, afterall it's a decision only you can make.
Maybe you would benefit from buying old devices, and creating your own design. Customised. Just like an artist paints a pucture, inspired by the souroudning.
Please understand that I'm just a menber as you, but using an alternative thought process of what's going on here. I am unbiased, so i basically sit on the fence with everything. But c'mon. I ported andoid 11 on an S2. Unstable, but thats why this place exists. You have provided valuable feedback. I agree on one side, but would never bite the hanf that feeds me. so to speak..
I believe in development and not destruction.
In your case, honestly. if you're happy with it, stick with it.
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It seems nowadays that these forums have become a total waste to anyone if you dont have the latest devices or what help with rooting them. Other than that there is no interest in sharing or helpinp others anymore. I have posts that were posted in various forums,some months ago already and have had absolutely no feedback on them.
What is the point of even posting anything anymore,if nobody out there is bothered to help with advice,sharing files,apk's,mods etc anymore. I am really disappointed that the community in general seems to have just given up on anything other than the latest and greatest.
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Thank you for your feedback. We are actively working on ways to promote more helping and sharing of content on XDA. If you have any ideas, would love to hear about them!
The issue I have seen over the years is that many people come on XDA looking for it to be a "help site". Many want something for free. But, in order to get, you should give. XDA is about sharing of mobile device knowledge.
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Thank you for your feedback. We are actively working on ways to promote more helping and sharing of content on XDA. If you have any ideas, would love to hear about them!
The issue I have seen over the years is that many people come on XDA looking for it to be a "help site". Many want something for free. But, in order to get, you should give. XDA is about sharing of mobile device knowledge.
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Help whores... some too lazy or inept to do Google searches and take the time to sort it out.
After which they vanish*.
Problem with that is to use these devices effectively you must immerse yourself in them to some degree.
This site provides an effective platform to aid that learning curve whatever your end goal is.
Learning from others mistakes is always better than making them yourself...
Both Google and the manufacturers push OS's and hardware platforms in a self serving way which is many times in direct conflict with the end user's best interests. This site helps to provide workarounds for the many issues this creates.
Something for everyone is not a bad thing...
*That's better than the spammers hawking the voodoo wuv
Yes,i agree with your statement. But of late,the help you speak of or learninm from others does not happen anymore. In my specific caseg have posted to various manufacturer forums asking for said help and advice and have got not one reply on any of those forums and topics in question.
Hence my saying that it seems to have become a place where if you dont have the newest available handsets etc,you wont get answers to your questions etc anymore because all the top developers are trying to keep up with the latest Android software releases and the latest camera etc technologies to take the collective community forward,but sadly it is to the detriment of the majority who cannot for whatever reason move forward with them and are stuck using older devices and then as a result dont get any feedback anymore on their questions etc.
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Yes,i agree with your statement. But of late,the help you speak of or learninm from others does not happen anymore. In my specific caseg have posted to various manufacturer forums asking for said help and advice and have got not one reply on any of those forums and topics in question.
Hence my saying that it seems to have become a place where if you dont have the newest available handsets etc,you wont get answers to your questions etc anymore because all the top developers are trying to keep up with the latest Android software releases and the latest camera etc technologies to take the collective community forward,but sadly it is to the detriment of the majority who cannot for whatever reason move forward with them and are stuck using older devices and then as a result dont get any feedback anymore on their questions etc.
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Part the problem is the thread shows up once in the sea of other threads and quickly gets sunk to the bottom.
It's a busy site. Not sure what can be done expect bumping the thread every few days or whatever.
Separating the rooting, moding, new app threads from general questions might help... or just create more confusion. Probably do more harm than good.
(Edit) Personally I enjoy the cross exposure to other devices and platforms as it increases my knowledge/awareness base.
It's fascinating even if I don't always understand all of it.
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Yes,i agree with your statement. But of late,the help you speak of or learninm from others does not happen anymore. In my specific caseg have posted to various manufacturer forums asking for said help and advice and have got not one reply on any of those forums and topics in question.
Hence my saying that it seems to have become a place where if you dont have the newest available handsets etc,you wont get answers to your questions etc anymore because all the top developers are trying to keep up with the latest Android software releases and the latest camera etc technologies to take the collective community forward,but sadly it is to the detriment of the majority who cannot for whatever reason move forward with them and are stuck using older devices and then as a result dont get any feedback anymore on their questions etc.
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Lot's of stuff for older devices has been covered. i.e. developers move on to latest devices, they develop, research, post etc. before moving on and at some point that device becomes an "older" device of which info/data already exists..
either way, cant expect everything to be covered as it's impossible. I was at that point once upon a time.. once i realized cant always rely on an experienced dev to be there to answer all my questions is when its great to research and learn on your own.. eventually stuff will become easy and you might have ppl asking u for help.. thats a positive thing about xda and the internet, theres endless knowledge out there if you are patient and willing to learn.
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Lowxorx said:
The android phone market is a trap that many people fall into. Yesterday, we were buying smarthphones to make them last, and Xda was there to give these phones a second life. But today, people are buying phones because they MUST buy. It's become a fashion accessory, and this consumption pattern has affected the look of the forum. The world of new technologies no longer takes the time to live, unfortunately ...
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That, but also the fact that the technology has slowed down quite a bit. It was only a few years ago where most phones would begin to feel slightly sluggish on stock OS after a year of updates...Now? A relative of mine bought a mid range Motorola phone from 2019 and it's fast as can be, game wise it's decent too. The incentive to eek out more "oomph" isn't as high as it used to be - imo.