Carrier IQ - LG Optimus G Pro

I just found out about this. Our phones have it. How do we get rid of it and what are the repercussions of doing so?

cougar214 said:
I just found out about this. Our phones have it. How do we get rid of it and what are the repercussions of doing so?
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I use this. Its a free app available on XDA. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559
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I found that one too from a web search. The article said it didn't have much support for a variety of devices, which I couldn't confirm nor deny, so I went ahead and installed disable services from the market. That did the trick. I don't think I have to worry too much about it because I'm not on ATT, I'm on Straight talk. But still the services for it running on my phone and taking up usable memory had to stop.

Do you have a carrier iq
Detector. I use voodoo after I run the logging test app to verify it worked.
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Yeah I used two. Carrier IQ Red Pill and Carrier IQ detector. Both said I have it. I used the disable services to stop it but I still have the two system processes running. /system/lib/libiq_client.so and /system/lib/libiq_service.so. Any way to disable them? Rename them maybe or?
EDIT: I went ahead and bought that app you linked me too, doesn't hurt to support our devs, I installed the v14 version but I'm unclear on how to use it. What steps do I take?

cougar214 said:
Yeah I used two. Carrier IQ Red Pill and Carrier IQ detector. Both said I have it. I used the disable services to stop it but I still have the two system processes running. /system/lib/libiq_client.so and /system/lib/libiq_service.so. Any way to disable them? Rename them maybe or?
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I renamed those files and disabled services IQService and Tethering$entitlementCheckService and stopped receiving text messages so I enabled them again then renamed files back and used Autostarts to disable Android System>After Startup (IQ Agent Autostarter) , now Voodoo CarrierIQ detector says "Carrier IQ elements found however it seems inactive".
I did not test which one of those caused the problem of not receiving text messages.

Well I really hope this is removed in the 4.4 update, if we get it that is, cause this is just down right intrusive. Carriers are going way to far these days. People pay allot of money for their phones. They have the right to do with them as they please. Carriers are making it so you never really "own" your phone, it's just leased to you for life. Much like Microsoft does with their software. I don't know about anyone else but if I drop 200 or more for a phone I own it. Kiss my ass I will do as I please with MY PROPERTY!

ver. 10k for e980 have it
but 10g doesnt

cougar214 said:
Yeah I used two. Carrier IQ Red Pill and Carrier IQ detector. Both said I have it. I used the disable services to stop it but I still have the two system processes running. /system/lib/libiq_client.so and /system/lib/libiq_service.so. Any way to disable them? Rename them maybe or?
EDIT: I went ahead and bought that app you linked me too, doesn't hurt to support our devs, I installed the v14 version but I'm unclear on how to use it. What steps do I take?
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From the first screen hit the tOP option.
Its labeled "Installed package options loggers adware CIQ"
Then hit your menus button and the options will pop up.
Remove loggers.
Remove CIQ.
Wipe adware logs.
I do all three.
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Ok. Thanks esimon
EDIT: I finished doing a backup then ran the app. Everything seems to be fine. So far anyway. I did notice when I ran Red Pill I get an "Unknown" for the status and says there doesn't appear to be any ciq processes running. Is that what you get esimon?

I use voodoo
It says elements of CIQ were found but not active. And I don't see the CIQ wake lock in better battery status app.
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Yeah I know you use voodoo. I was just checking to see if you got a similar message. That's kinda what my message said. I'm not having any force close issues or texting issues so I guess this app is compatible....lol

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Removal of CarrierIQ

Does anyone know of any manual methods to remove CarrierIQ? The S4 for Tmobile comes with CarrierIQ installed.
xxhorseriderxxx said:
Does anyone know of any manual methods to remove CarrierIQ? The S4 for Tmobile comes with CarrierIQ installed.
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freeze the following applications please:
"system manager toggle"
"system manager application"
"system manager notification"
A real noCIQ is coming. It's more than just those APKs.
cool looking forward it it!!
Carrier IQ is not found on the Samsung S4, so no need to worry about it.
dhonzik said:
Carrier IQ is not found on the Samsung S4, so no need to worry about it.
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And what method did you use to find it, sir?
i thought they stopped putting that on most phones after all the drama about it
TheAtheistOtaku said:
i thought they stopped putting that on most phones after all the drama about it
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They did, but it had yet to stay dead. Time to cause more noise. Feel free to start blasting them in social media outlets. I will be soon.
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k0nane said:
A real noCIQ is coming. It's more than just those APKs.
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lemme know here where you'll be posting it... I'm super interested to get rid of CIQ, especially since it's a waste of battery life. I generally customize my ROMs with almost nothing left as far as background processes are concerned. My i9100 gets a 1-2 day battery life because of it, lol.
Not sure if this is the correct way but,
I rooted and installed root uninstaller..
Browsed tab where it says all programs.. looked through and found three programs starting with iQ...
I un installed all three.
when I did root checker after it said carrier iq was not detected on my device.
(previous to removal it said it WAS present on my device.
Hope this helps
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xxhorseriderxxx said:
Does anyone know of any manual methods to remove CarrierIQ? The S4 for Tmobile comes with CarrierIQ installed.
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I used the method from the first post in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768205 on my T-Mobile S4 and it worked as I checked it with BitDefender Carrier IQ Check. Hope this helps.
bgmikejr said:
I used the method from the first post in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768205 on my T-Mobile S4 and it worked as I checked it with BitDefender Carrier IQ Check. Hope this helps.
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The issue with simply removing APKs is that the calls are still being sent by the framework. That does not satisfy me. I want it entirely gone.
k0nane said:
The issue with simply removing APKs is that the calls are still being sent by the framework. That does not satisfy me. I want it entirely gone.
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Exactly.
The Root said:
And what method did you use to find it, sir?
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I tried a number of apps on google play store that detect CarrierIQ and none detected CarrierIQ. Only one (Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector) said there maybe some elements of CarrierIQ but it was inactive. I believe that program produce a false positive since looking at comments it said everything has element of CarrierIQ. The programs I used are Carrier IQ Detector, Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector, Anti Carrier IQ, Bitdefender Carrier IQ Finder, TrustGo Carrier IQ Detector, Carrier IQ Scanner, and Carrier IQ Red Pill.
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I tried a number of apps on google play store that detect CarrierIQ and none detected CarrierIQ. Only one (Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector) said there maybe some elements of CarrierIQ but it was inactive. I believe that program produce a false positive since looking at comments it said everything has element of CarrierIQ. The programs I used are Carrier IQ Detector, Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector, Anti Carrier IQ, Bitdefender Carrier IQ Finder, TrustGo Carrier IQ Detector, Carrier IQ Scanner, and Carrier IQ Red Pill.
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Hey k0nane, best to give up. This guy says it doesn't exist in our phone. He used advanced apps.
Actually your false positive is the only app that caught it. Probably because supercurio worked with k0.
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Is there a method to remove or at least temporarily disable CIQ if not rooted? I dont want to root this device.
mettleh3d said:
Is there a method to remove or at least temporarily disable CIQ if not rooted? I dont want to root this device.
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You're given the option to turn it off, and that's the best you've got, but I don't trust it.
Glad the same method still works. I haven't gotten around to trying it yet, but I was going to suggest it..
Will unchecking it from Droid Wall do the trick temporarily?
Rooted and uninstalled these 3 in Titanium Backup:
"system manager toggle"
"system manager application"
"system manager notification"
Then I went to the /System/CSC/ folder in Root explorer and edited both the Feature.xml and Other.xml files
Using Root explorer you long press the on the filename until a menu comes up. Choose to open with Text editor.
The text is at the bottom.
<!-- CIQ -->
<CSCFeature_CIQ_BroadcastState>true</CSCFeature_CIQ_BroadcastState>
Change true to false in this section of BOTH of these files and save and reboot.
The old files before editing will be saved with a .bak extension.
Worked great for me.

Carrier IQ spyware/logger in the official LG ROM

Just discovered Carrier IQ logger in the official LG ROM. Found it by searching for an app that turns on my GPS randomly and discharging my battery. After removing it, the battery life is so much better. Have much less respect for LG after that. Life is Good when you carry manufacturer-infused spyware in your phone? What a BS...
G0bl1n said:
Just discovered Carrier IQ logger in the official LG ROM. Found it by searching for an app that turns on my GPS randomly and discharging my battery. After removing it, the battery life is so much better. Have much less respect for LG after that. Life is Good when you carry manufacturer-infused spyware in your phone? What a BS...
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How did you remove carrier IQ?
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I used this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559
The app is free on XDA and the pro key is on the play store for like 99€, and its.worth every penny.....
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esimon311 said:
I used this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559
The app is free on XDA and the pro key is on the play store for like 99€, and its.worth every penny.....
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make a guide if you don't mind please. I tried that app and it bricked my phone.. also LG didn't put carrier IQ in the rom you probably have the att version.
Its not lg Google installs it into their base. Unfortunately its in every android windows phone and iOS device on the planet... Nothing to do but root...
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How to remove Carrier IQ
esimon311 said:
I used this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559
The app is free on XDA and the pro key is on the play store for like 99€, and its.worth every penny.....
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That's the one I used too. It costs just $1 in US. You can also use a free version, it will report dll files from system/lib that belongs to carrier IQ which you can delete manually, but using the application is easier and safer.
Emmanuel2000 said:
make a guide if you don't mind please. I tried that app and it bricked my phone.. also LG didn't put carrier IQ in the rom you probably have the att version.
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I don't think it's the AT&T, my daughter has Samsung Galaxy S3 from AT&T and it doesn't have the carrier IQ. Unless Samsung was against it when making the deal with ATT...
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Its not lg Google installs it into their base. Unfortunately its in every android windows phone and iOS device on the planet... Nothing to do but root...
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Samsung Galaxy S3 from AT&T doesn't have it, so I don't think it's Google or AT&T.
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Samsung Galaxy S3 from AT&T doesn't have it, so I don't think it's Google or AT&T.
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are you trying to say that the AT&T G Pro doesn't have Carrier IQ? when did we start talking about the s3? also yes it is AT&T Allowing Carrier IQ in the phones as they stated in many websites. and yes My AT&T E980 does have Carrier IQ.
can't be a google thing coz no carrier IQ in Korean F240 model.....maybe US thing?
I have International E989 version and no CIQ Logger was found, maybe it's not LG or Google that insert it in other versions.
Guys it does not matter who put ciq on the device.. Most probably it is AT&T as they have a direct interest in doing so... However what is important is to know how to remove it.. Whoever has been successful, can he make a step by step guide and post here please? Also does the treve app work on the e980?
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I used logging test app... by TrevE it's free on his sight, there is a pro key on the play store. That I bought.. the App is fairly simple to use. And it appears to have worked some residual files remain so some CIQ checkers still may say you still have CIQ. But the ones that go into detail tell me. Some CIQ files remain but CIQ is inactive.
Here is the link TrevE's sight
http://androidsecuritytest.com/
The CIQ checker I used is voodoo CIQ checker.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.simplecarrieriqdetector
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Following your advice I downloaded the app and bough the key. Sure enough CIQ is there, turning on my GPS every thirty minutes, which wears down my battery (particularly indoors when it keeps it on and searching for the duration of my time within a building). I'm just a bit nervous of taking the step of automatically removing CIQ using the app. I trust the app and the developer 100%; it's bricking my phone that I'm worried about!
esimon311 said:
I used logging test app... by TrevE it's free on his sight, there is a pro key on the play store. That I bought.. the App is fairly simple to use. And it appears to have worked some residual files remain so some CIQ checkers still may say you still have CIQ. But the ones that go into detail tell me. Some CIQ files remain but CIQ is inactive.
Here is the link TrevE's sight
http://androidsecuritytest.com/
The CIQ checker I used is voodoo CIQ checker.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.simplecarrieriqdetector
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For me it worked, with no I'll effects, my GPS has not came on once after I removed the CIQ, prior to removing it seemed like every time I would wake my phone up the GPS would be on and searching. there is always a chance altering any system files that something could go wrong... hence why I always have a backup on my phone and on my lap top...good luck.
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esimon311 said:
For me it worked, with no I'll effects, my GPS has not came on once after I removed the CIQ, prior to removing it seemed like every time I would wake my phone up the GPS would be on and searching. there is always a chance altering any system files that something could go wrong... hence why I always have a backup on my phone and on my lap top...good luck.
Thank you very much! I've rooted my phone and installed Freegee but gone no further yet. I'll need to get shaking with TWRP and backup my phone before I remove CIQ. I'd months of playing around wtih ROMS and backing up my old Note, so I'll read up on TWRP on the Optimus G Pro.
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See my post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46062199#post46062199 on how to remove CarrierIQ. Worked on my AT&T OGP E980.
killerskullz said:
See my post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46062199#post46062199 on how to remove CarrierIQ. Worked on my AT&T OGP E980.
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Thanks very much.
I am rooted but have not installed freegee and cwm yet, so cannot backup my current setup....I know a backup is important , but if not, can this procedure be considered safe? Did you see any abnormal behavior (boot up issues, system issues) after doing this? Also , any significant change in battery life?
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I've seen no adverse effects except a significant increase in battery life due to the GPS not turning on anymore. I did not backup at all, as there is nothing to delete! You just uncheck a few system processes using System Tuner, reboot, and then CarrierIQ should be not functional anymore!
G2V4 installed and no carrier IQ detected..problem solved..lol..
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Removing CarrierIQ AT&T E980

Well I removed CarrierIQ from the ATT E980 and you get a significant amount of RAM back to the device. I have noticed that 1.01GB of ram is being used while I now have 1011MB free, or pretty much 1 GB free. The only thing that happens is I get 2 to 3 FC's during boot-up.
I am using the stock rom on 10k rooted and unlocked
AT&T bloatware is annoying.
bvzxa3 said:
Well I removed CarrierIQ from the ATT E980 and you get a significant amount of RAM back to the device. I have noticed that 1.01GB of ram is being used while I now have 1011MB free, or pretty much 1 GB free. The only thing that happens is I get 2 to 3 FC's during boot-up.
I am using the stock rom on 10k rooted and unlocked
AT&T bloatware is annoying.
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how to remove carrier IQ, somehow I lost my IMEI number while I patch a wrong modem/baseband though I reverted to correct one (E980) still I dont see my IMEI number or any mobile signal
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bvzxa3 said:
Well I removed CarrierIQ from the ATT E980 and you get a significant amount of RAM back to the device. I have noticed that 1.01GB of ram is being used while I now have 1011MB free, or pretty much 1 GB free. The only thing that happens is I get 2 to 3 FC's during boot-up.
I am using the stock rom on 10k rooted and unlocked
AT&T bloatware is annoying.
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how to remove carrier IQ, somehow I lost my IMEI number while I patch a wrong modem/baseband though I reverted to correct one (E980) still I dont see my IMEI number or any mobile signal
I managed to remove Carrier IQ in ATT E980 kitkat(official rom)
Guys, I'm not a developer or anything so - Try this at your own risk.
With that said. This is what worked for me.
My G pro is on ATT stock kitkat 4.4.2.
Carrier IQ and other loggers were killing the battery, and there is the privacy and security issue.
So after spending long time figuring out what to do, I couldn't find anything solid. Some advice from here, some from there, a little hit and trial and boom no CIQ finally.
I thought I'll put this up, if this works for you guys then there will be a concrete method for everyone.
I write down the steps I took, as I took them. You can simply go to PART 2 and see if that is all is needed for CIQ to go away.
PART -1
Steps -
1) Root your device.
2) Get Logging test app (by TrevE) from google playstore.
3) Go pro, get license.
4) Use the app to scan for loggers.
5) Choose to remove loggers and CIQ from options. Reboot accordingly.
Now I still had CIQ and loggers after this. But it deleted the logs that were created. I also noticed an extra .15gb of free ram after reboot that was definitely not there before. So I recommend it. I personally thought this was beneficial.
PART - 2
Rename libiq_client.so and libiq_service.so found in /system/lib device folder. Then reboot.
I'm not sure if you need root to do this. Mine was rooted when I did.
I found CIQ was gone after this.
Well, that's it guys. Hope this helps you all.
Were you able to check with the voodoo ciq app if it was gone?
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Were you able to check with the voodoo ciq app if it was gone?
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I checked with following apps and these were the results -
1) Carrier IQ Detector (Lookout one) - Your device does not have carrier IQ (Was showing that I did earlier).
2) Logging app by Treve - CIQ does not exist (Was showing that it existed earlier).
3) Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector 2.0.5 - Carrier IQ found ans is active. Detection score is 200 [ The app description says it returns false positive.]
4) Carrier IQ spy - Carrier IQ is installed and running.
Seems you have a point. CIQ may not have been completely removed.
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I checked with following apps and these were the results -
1) Carrier IQ Detector (Lookout one) - Your device does not have carrier IQ (Was showing that I did earlier).
2) Logging app by Treve - CIQ does not exist (Was showing that it existed earlier).
3) Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector 2.0.5 - Carrier IQ found ans is active. Detection score is 200 [ The app description says it returns false positive.]
4) Carrier IQ spy - Carrier IQ is installed and running.
Seems you have a point. CIQ may not have been completely removed.
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Damn these carriers! I was really hoping your method would work.
But suggestion of renaming the libs is working to some extent I think..I did that yest evening, after your post and from morning today till now in late evening, approx 10 hrs, battery is down only to 83% with 1 hr 10 mins screen on time
It seems carrier iq runs as a process in system, some diag.iq or something ..guess that needs to be stopped if it I has to be disabled completely
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install e980H rom
backup ur imei/efs with freegee first
flash the rom
flash AT&T modem
if u want 23giga internal back try this
backup
format system, internal sd card
restore
good rom bloatless

Carrier IQ on Lollipop

Any evidence for Carrier IQ on Lollipop 5.01?
On the T-Mobile one definitely
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On the T-Mobile one definitely
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Located where - I looked in the usual places (System>Private App) and Libraries - could not find it. Do you know where the files are stored?
docfreed said:
Located where - I looked in the usual places (System>Private App) and Libraries - could not find it. Do you know where the files are stored?
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I couldn't find it either and using CarrierIQ Scanner and Bitdefender Carrier IQ Finder both stated "Carrier IQ not found".
However, Carrier IQ Red Pill comes back with "There is a Very Strong evidence of CarrierIQ being installed on this device." It listed 3 Active Processes - iqd, iqmsd, and iqbridged - with iqd as a "positive" test.
Haven't tried messing with deleting it yet, but it does seem Tmobile is trying to bury it a little deeper with Lollipop.
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I couldn't find it either and using CarrierIQ Scanner and Bitdefender Carrier IQ Finder both stated "Carrier IQ not found".
However, Carrier IQ Red Pill comes back with "There is a Very Strong evidence of CarrierIQ being installed on this device." It listed 3 Active Processes - iqd, iqmsd, and iqbridged - with iqd as a "positive" test.
Haven't tried messing with deleting it yet, but it does seem Tmobile is trying to bury it a little deeper with Lollipop.
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I had the identical thing - Bitdefender said no and Red Pill said yes. I looked in the usual places and found nothing. IMHO, Red Pill wants to sell stuff so they try to scare you.
Unfortunately the google morons removed Voodoo Carrier IQ from the playstore - that one always gave the correct answer.
Oh well the hunt continues
I found the Carrier IQ stuff with 3C toolbox. Stopped the processes and renamed the 2 processes that were installed.
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I found the Carrier IQ stuff with 3C toolbox. Stopped the processes and renamed the 2 processes that were installed.
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Which processes were those?
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I used 3C toolbox and unchecked (disabled) everything in Android System with carrier IQ..probably about 6 or 7. It also showed that in system/app LTDDM.apk was Carrier IQ. Inside that is folder /arm which contains LTDDM.odex. I renamed both with .bak.
The only thing I've found so far is the LTDDM folder in system/app; which I removed completely
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I used 3C toolbox and unchecked (disabled) everything in Android System with carrier IQ..probably about 6 or 7. It also showed that in system/app LTDDM.apk was Carrier IQ. Inside that is folder /arm which contains LTDDM.odex. I renamed both with .bak.
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I never used this 3C toolbox app but looks really good. Can you tell me where I can find what to disable or how to use this app to find the carrier IQ crap? Thanks.
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I never used this 3C toolbox app but looks really good. Can you tell me where I can find what to disable or how to use this app to find the carrier IQ crap? Thanks.
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I had googled and found this Reddit thread the most useful. I followed the instructions on the first post...but read the whole thing first to get the gist of it.
http://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/2bkl60/remove_carrier_iq_off_of_lg_g3_all_models/
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I had googled and found this Reddit thread the most useful. I followed the instructions on the first post...but read the whole thing first to get the gist of it.
http://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/2bkl60/remove_carrier_iq_off_of_lg_g3_all_models/
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Got it done, thanks alot, that's a great app by the way [emoji106]
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Package Disabler Pro for the Note 7.

Has anyone tried to see what works with some bloatware disabled & what doesn't work? Personally I would like the iris scanner and samsung pay to be enabled and everything else disabled.
Yeah, it's working for me quite well
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Yeah, it's working for me quite well
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Glad to hear it,arguably the best feature available for any Samsung device,short of root/ROMs.
Hopefully it'll still work once Android 7.0 rolls out.
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Glad to hear it,arguably the best feature available for any Samsung device,short of root/ROMs.
Hopefully it'll still work once Android 7.0 rolls out.
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It will. They use Knox which is a product of Samsung.
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I'm rather confused by this thread. Is the poster asking what will 'break' if you disabled all the bloatware? Or asking something else entirely? Cause you can disable everything that comes on any phone and it'll always work just fine.
And I have no idea what Android 7.0 would have to do with bloatware, or what KNOX would have to do with bloatware...
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I'm rather confused by this thread. Is the poster asking what will 'break' if you disabled all the bloatware? Or asking something else entirely? Cause you can disable everything that comes on any phone and it'll always work just fine.
And I have no idea what Android 7.0 would have to do with bloatware, or what KNOX would have to do with bloatware...
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I can't speak for the O.P.,but,my guess is, as with me, just making sure that it works before purchasing the Note 7,especially for those of us with the Snapdragon powered versions that may have no other way to disable bloat.
JMHO, but, the Q&A regarding functionality of PDP, whatever they may be, are of merit & might as well have a thread addressing the subject.
Most realize you can disable the bloat, but,not everyone, including yours truly, understand exactly how it works & why only on Samsung devices.
The Knox tie-in makes sense to me, even without a full understanding of how it works.
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I can't speak for the O.P.,but,my guess is, as with me, just making sure that it works before purchasing the Note 7,especially for those of us with the Snapdragon powered versions that may have no other way to disable bloat.
JMHO, but, the Q&A regarding functionality of PDP, whatever they may be, are of merit & might as well have a thread addressing the subject.
Most realize you can disable the bloat, but,not everyone, including yours truly, understand exactly how it works & why only on Samsung devices.
The Knox tie-in makes sense to me, even without a full understanding of how it works.
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KNOX doesn't make much sense to me, because that's just a security platform. It just makes sure you protected from being 'hacked' per say. As in like, it adds an extra layer of security over your phone so someone can't just pick it up and plug it into a computer to gain access to all of your stuff. Though thats only the very loosest of analogies.
But I have to ask what you exactly mean by the "not everyone understands exactly how it works and why only on Samsung devices". Do you mean as in why disabling works? or something else. Because you can disable the bloatware on any android phone so long as the carrier and manufacturer didn't lock the option out. Which most devices will let you do it now because of the whole 'you'll get sued for forcing users to use a specific thing without giving them a way out' (an example would be microsoft getting sued over the bundling of Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office with the earlier Windows OS's).
What I'm wondering is, based on the title of the thread after thinking about it some, does the OP mean an app that disables/uninstalls bloat? Because I'm sure there are plenty of apps out there that do it. But most I think require Root in order to do it properly and reliably. I use Sprint for my service, and its Sprint ID and such are a pain in the ass, and they can't just be 'disabled' easily even though there is the option to (every time you disable it, Sprint just re-installs it the next time you reboot the phone because it thinks it got uninstalled somehow). But to get it to disable properly on my Note 5, I had to install some random app that I think was called App Quarantine. It looked like a bio-hazard symbol for the icon. I haven't re-installed it since this last wipe I was forced to do, so I can't remember exactly lol. But it was the only one that would let me actually disable the Sprint ID stuff and not have it re-install all the time.
HikariNoKitsune said:
What I'm wondering is, based on the title of the thread after thinking about it some, does the OP mean an app that disables/uninstalls bloat? Because I'm sure there are plenty of apps out there that do it.
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Yes it's an app in the Google Play Store that has the ability to disable literally anything on Samsung devices,WITHOUT ROOT, so, care must be taken to not get carried away & I recommend only disabling, not deleting, in the event of not being able to take an update otherwise.
Not everything can be disabled natively, so, that explains the appeal of the app.
If you used it, you'd see the tie-in with Knox........
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Yes it's an app in the Google Play Store that has the ability to disable literally anything on Samsung devices,WITHOUT ROOT, so, care must be taken to not get carried away & I recommend only disabling, not deleting, in the event of not being able to take an update otherwise.
Not everything can be disabled natively, so, that explains the appeal of the app.
If you used it, you'd see the tie-in with Knox........
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Then that makes alot more sense. I originally just thought they were basically asking if there was an app to disable everything instead of having to do it manually. I've always just manually disabled everything cause its not that hard to do. Just find the troublesome things and hit that disable button lol. But if this can do it all in one quick swoop, then I'm all in =O I'll definitely be looking into it later today when my phone finally arrives...
Sprint screwed up my pre-order, and is sending me the wrong device, so I have to take it into a store to get it exchanged because they refused to cancel my pre-order or change the order at all even though I legitimately ordered the dang thing 2 minutes past midnight on the 3rd. So ontop of that, they also didn't ship the phone when they said they would, AND the put restrictions on my package. I normally have to physically go to a UPS location to pick up my packages cause the dumb driver will never deliver to my house... always states that they can't find my house even though its the ONLY house down the ONLY long driveway... heck you can SEE my house above the trees! But nope, the guy wont deliver. But because of the restrictions, UPS wont let me flag the package as 'hold for pickup' like usual, so I gotta stand at the end of my drive way for hours upon hours just to catch the UPS driver. Then I gotta drive all the way into town to HOPEFULLY exchange the phone for the Black Onyx variant that I was supposed to get...
Anyway, sorry for the ramble o-o; didn't realize it was that long XD
HikariNoKitsune said:
Then that makes alot more sense. I originally just thought they were basically asking if there was an app to disable everything instead of having to do it manually. I've always just manually disabled everything cause its not that hard to do. Just find the troublesome things and hit that disable button lol. But if this can do it all in one quick swoop, then I'm all in =O I'll definitely be looking into it later today when my phone finally arrives...
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It's a nice tool to have, a powerful one.
Just a friendly piece of advice :
Read up on it before using, check the FAQs on the developers site if need be & go conservative at 1st if you're not familiar with what is safe to disable.
The app gives color-coded guidelines per each app on what is known to be safe to disable. You can go above and beyond that, but, mainly, just disable, do not delete anything & leave the stock keyboard alone.
You might be able to disable the stock launcher, provided you have another one installed, but, I'd leave it alone until you're certain one way or the other........
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It's a nice tool to have, a powerful one.
Just a friendly piece of advice :
Read up on it before using, check the FAQs on the developers site if need be & go conservative at 1st if you're not familiar with what is safe to disable.
The app gives color-coded guidelines per each app on what is known to be safe to disable. You can go above and beyond that, but, mainly, just disable, do not delete anything & leave the stock keyboard alone.
You might be able to disable the stock launcher, provided you have another one installed, but, I'd leave it alone until you're certain one way or the other........
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Lol I'd only disable the things I already know I need to disable. Like all the Sprint stuff. I leave the Samsung stuff alone cause I actually use alot of Samsung's things. But as for Sprint's stuff? All of that goes bye bye lol. Now that is assuming it doesn't somehow show things that you normally can't see from the applications manager. In which case then I wouldn't bother, cause I don't see much of a point lol.
there are a few package disabler for Samsung out there, which one the best?
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there are a few package disabler for Samsung out there, which one the best?
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Go with either one,the Pro+ has a hardware lockdown feature,otherwise,there two are identical:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpremium&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
I'm guessing Samsung still has a partnership w/Cheetah Mobile,which is one of the main reasons I like having this app,Package Disabler Pro,on-board to ward off the data mining/crapware/etc...
However,I'm not seeing anything in the apps,system or otherwise,that's jumping out & identifying itself as CheetahMobile/CleanMaster/etc.......
I'm guessing it's some/all of the apps identified w/the "Smart" moniker,but,I'm not 100% certain on that.
Anyone have an idea on which,if any,of the apps are actual CheetahMobile bloatware?
Thanks In Advance!
Using EZ Disabler here. Works well, but you gotta be careful using "disable bloat" part as it will turn off many useful things. I just went through and picked what i wanted. Very Easy to use though
Thanks for recommending Package Disabler Pro. I was worried Since not rooted. In past had always used TB . This worked Great!!
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Why would you guys use an app for disabling stuff.
Since we're on xda, enable USB debugging and use pm (package manager) cmd from adb shell.
For instance: adb shell pm hide 'package'
There are other interesting options: list, install, uninstall.
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millicent said:
Why would you guys use an app for disabling stuff.
Since we're on xda, enable USB debugging and use pm (package manager) cmd from adb shell.
For instance: adb shell pm hide 'package'
There are other interesting options: list, install, uninstall.
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I see your point, but i would also say there is a ease to the app though. Whatever works best for people. Im just glad there are options.

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