I updated to modem from kk, but stayed using jb ROM, something happens so I had to Odin stock, now back on stock the phone hangs at TMobile screen or once booted displays no signal.
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rambo8987 said:
I updated to modem from kk, but stayed using jb ROM, something happens so I had to Odin stock, now back on stock the phone hangs at TMobile screen or once booted displays no signal.
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If I am correct you can't swap modems like that. Need to full wipe and Odin over and clear again. If not you might have to update 4.4
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rambo8987 said:
I updated to modem from kk, but stayed using jb ROM, something happens so I had to Odin stock, now back on stock the phone hangs at TMobile screen or once booted displays no signal.
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Yea I flashed the kk modem through Odin as described in the forums, wish I hadent
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rambo8987 said:
Yea I flashed the kk modem through Odin as described in the forums, wish I hadent
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i pulled just the modem.bin from the kitkat update flashed it on my jb. havnt had any issues. i like kitkat but had alot of problems myself. i notice samsung has released many different versions of it as far as the internationals go and feel it will be the same with us. so im holding off.
Would it be possible to flash a 4.3 modem on kitkat? I've had terrible data freezes on kitkat for the last 2 weeks. Have Odin back to official firmware 3 times, it does it on that, plus aosp, plus custom tw roms, double checked everything apn, etc. Still my data just stops for awhile and it's like it can't reconnect from standby to 4g.
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dobbs3x said:
Would it be possible to flash a 4.3 modem on kitkat? I've had terrible data freezes on kitkat for the last 2 weeks. Have Odin back to official firmware 3 times, it does it on that, plus aosp, plus custom tw roms, double checked everything apn, etc. Still my data just stops for awhile and it's like it can't reconnect from standby to 4g.
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You could try it. When I had my att gs4 I flashed the modem backwards without issue... a few of us did to be able to enable the aws bands via a qcn file for a specific modem version. Just extract the modem.bin from the mi7 odin rar and stick it in the odin cp or phone field.
If you do, let us know if and how well or bad it works.
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Whered you find the 4.3 modem? Link please?
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I extracted the 4.3 modem.bin from the sammobile.com MI7 firmware. I tried to flash it through odin v3.09 as administrator and it looks like it flashes fine, no errors etc but when the phone reboots and I goto to about device section it still shows the NB4 baseband version. Phone is working fines still though.
Attempt 2, I used cygdrive to extract the modem.bin and tar it and tried to flash it through Odin v3.09 as-well and had the same results.
I am wondering if I need to wipe cache for the new version to show? Or is that version number in the about section set somewhere else? Is there a way to verify that I am using the 4.3 modem.bin from MI7 besides looking at the about section?
Can you dropbox a link to 4.3 modem? I'll look around and see
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dobbs3x said:
I extracted the 4.3 modem.bin from the sammobile.com MI7 firmware. I tried to flash it through odin v3.09 as administrator and it looks like it flashes fine, no errors etc but when the phone reboots and I goto to about device section it still shows the NB4 baseband version. Phone is working fines still though.
Attempt 2, I used cygdrive to extract the modem.bin and tar it and tried to flash it through Odin v3.09 as-well and had the same results.
I am wondering if I need to wipe cache for the new version to show? Or is that version number in the about section set somewhere else? Is there a way to verify that I am using the 4.3 modem.bin from MI7 besides looking at the about section?
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Sounds like the modem odin dance on jflte, maybe solution is the same?
flash modem in ODIN and UNcheck "autoreboot", it looks like it works, but it won't work yet... now manually keypress into Download mode again, re-ODIN the modem, and reboot. It should stick now.
That's what it took to do the modem upgrade on S4 while staying on original bootloader.
rambo8987 said:
I updated to modem from kk, but stayed using jb ROM, something happens so I had to Odin stock, now back on stock the phone hangs at TMobile screen or once booted displays no signal.
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You have a link to the 4.4 baseband?
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So I flashed pa2.53 and the 4.2 gapps and got signal, then I tried the nexus4g modem still no signal. Then tried to odin back to stock now my phone is stuck in airplane mode. I've flashed other roms before and lost the modem but was always able to flash back or odin another modem. Is there anyway I can fix this besides flashing back to stock and going to sprint?
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Reflash PA, NS4G AIO, and gapps again. Only way I could fix it 2 weeks ago.
You may have to flash the AIO twice to get it to stick.
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I've tried that and has worked in the past. This is different though now its stuck in flight/airplane mode. I'm hoping its not a hardware issue
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Are you wiping before the reflash or dirty flashing?
If wiping, looks like an Odin back to stock might be the only solution.
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brian78503 said:
I've tried that and has worked in the past. This is different though now its stuck in flight/airplane mode. I'm hoping its not a hardware issue
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check /system/lib and delete libsec-40.so
check build prop and make sure epic rill is "#"ed out and crespo ril is in.
i am assuming you want crespo 4g modem. its not likely you will have to odin.
I've done clean installs more than once and odin with victory pit and d700-fco9 tar which always did the trick before. None of that is working. Although I still get wifi.
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brian78503 said:
I've done clean installs more than once and odin with victory pit and d700-fco9 tar which always did the trick before. None of that is working. Although I still get wifi.
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Clean installs won't help. The only way you can get out of it is by clearing the NvRam. Download the respective modem.bin file of the current stock Rom you are on, b. Flash it using old Odin1.8* with Phone EFS clear and auto reboot ticked. Update your PRL and Nam if you have a backup. That should get your phone working.
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After dealing with this same issue and the nexus patch (which I stopped using for better compatibility), just ODIN the FC09 modem.bin. It can be found among the sticky threads.
Andy_nu said:
check /system/lib and delete libsec-40.so
check build prop and make sure epic rill is "#"ed out and crespo ril is in.
i am assuming you want crespo 4g modem. its not likely you will have to odin.
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I've done clean installs more than once and odin with victory pit and d700-fco9 tar which always did the trick before. None of that is working. Although I still get wifi.
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? im guessing you don't want my help, suite yourself.
I currently have this problem as well. I'm stuck using the nexus modem. I did odin back to stock and was able to get back on the stock modem BUT when I try to flash CM7 or CM9 it flashes it but brings up "no service". Sooooo what's the secret...???? Please help me...
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Either Odin with the EFS clear then flash the Epic modem or there is some kernel jumping game someone mentioned.
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Either Odin with the EFS clear then flash the Epic modem or there is some kernel jumping game someone mentioned.
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Yep I did that. I odin and cleared EFS. (As long as I'm on stock, Im back on the FC09 modem). So once I verified that, I flashed CM7 and it says no service. I must be missing a step or something. Is there a step by step on how to get back to epic modem from a nexus modem? If not, maybe we should think about creating one.
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Did you verify service on stock? It needs to go through hands-free activation.
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kennyglass123 said:
Did you verify service on stock? It needs to go through hands-free activation.
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Yep....did handsfree activation and I had service.....while on stock....So after I did that, I rooted again and flashed cm7....then I received no service.
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Which CM7? With or without the Nexus modem kernel?
The stock CM7 is in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23556682
Is there any way to unroot this phone or flash the stock rom, rooted or unrooted, without a computer. The mini usb does not function so anything involving a computer is not an option. I just bought this phone and it came rooted but I need to activate it on my account and the ## codes aren't working
Mobile Odin
Lite:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
Pro:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.mobileodin.pro&hl=en
Read instructions carefully
EDIT:
I almost forgot
http://www.rwilco12.com/downloads.p...710)/Stock ROMs/JB/GB27/Full Restore/Unrooted
2nd file. Flash with Mobile Odin
Flash the modem in cwm first. Mobile odin wont flash them.
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Flashing the modem isn't necessary as the .tar contains the rom, kernel, and modem.
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patrao_n said:
Flash the modem in cwm first. Mobile odin wont flash them.
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Dypraxxx said:
Flashing the modem isn't necessary as the .tar contains the rom, kernel, and modem.
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Using Mobile Odin will not flash the modem, that is why patrao said to flash the modem with CWM then use Mobile Odin to flash the tar.
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*scratches head*
Ah, that's what he meant. I was confused by his post.
The modem and tar files
liwwil_1 said:
Is there any way to unroot this phone or flash the stock rom, rooted or unrooted, without a computer. The mini usb does not function so anything involving a computer is not an option. I just bought this phone and it came rooted but I need to activate it on my account and the ## codes aren't working
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Sorry but I haven't had an android phone in a while so I'm a little confused. There are two files when I click on the link do I flash just the tar file or both the exe and tar file? Also where do I find the modem file? Thanks for any replies I have managed to restore the phone to stock and get it working and I am still rooted as well
If you are going to use mobile odin then use the tar. The exe is for your computer. Thr modems can be found in rwilcos website just got to look.
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Thanks a lot
So i recently wanted to root my S4 with Odin. I did everything it asked, once booted it tells me
KERNEL IS NOT SEANDROID ENFORCING
SET WARRANTY BIT: KERNEL
It goes on the T-Mobile 4G LTE Screen, but stays there the whole time.
I don't have any recovery option, only download mode works.
please help, because i think i bricked my S4.
Read here, all your questions will be answered by Chainfire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41797153
Pp.
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PanchoPlanet said:
Read here, all your questions will be answered by Chainfire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41797153
Pp.
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Still no luck, it does the exact same thing.
Flash back to stock and root with cf-auto root, make sure you use the correct one!
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serio22 said:
Flash back to stock and root with cf-auto root, make sure you use the correct one!
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How do i flash it? My only choices are Odin and download mode.
You may need to do a factory reset. Then Odin. If no custom rom, factory reset will put u back to stock.
Pp.
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SevenLionsHD said:
How do i flash it? My only choices are Odin and download mode.
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Odin back to stock. Then Odin CF-AUTO ROOT
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PanchoPlanet said:
You may need to do a factory reset. Then Odin. If no custom rom, factory reset will put u back to stock.
Pp.
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I don't have a recovery option nor a factory reset option. i can get pass my T-mobile Screen..
I seen a link, saying there was a Stock Odin Flash Firmware, but the link doesn't work so
Really don't know what else to do. Like i said my only options are Odin and download mode.
The Sickness said:
Odin back to stock. Then Odin CF-AUTO ROOT
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Does Odin have a option to do a full wipe/factory reset?
That may be the only option.
He must have used the wrong root script, like AT&T or Sprint root.
Pp.
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SevenLionsHD said:
I don't have a recovery option nor a factory reset option. i can get pass my T-mobile Screen..
I seen a link, saying there was a Stock Odin Flash Firmware, but the link doesn't work so
Really don't know what else to do. Like i said my only options are Odin and download mode.
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Get it at sammobile.com.. You can also just flash a recovery and then a stock ROM
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PanchoPlanet said:
Does Odin have a option to do a full wipe/factory reset?
That may be the only option.
He must have used the wrong root script, like AT&T or Sprint root.
Pp.
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Only Options are: Auto Reboot F. Reset Time
Flash Lock Nand Erase All
T Flash
Re-Partition
LED Control
Here is other options: Bootloader
PDA
Phone
CSC
That's pretty much it.
serio22 said:
Get it at sammobile.com.. You can also just flash a recovery and then a stock ROM
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Currently downloading a Stock Rom that's works with Odin, not from sammobile.com because it didn't load up the website.
Hope this will work, if not i don't know what I'll do.
PanchoPlanet said:
Does Odin have a option to do a full wipe/factory reset?
That may be the only option.
He must have used the wrong root script, like AT&T or Sprint root.
Pp.
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Well i didn't downloaded the Stock Rom, because i thought this one would've work (UVUAMDL Official TAR)
I did it with Odin and failed right away. I don't think this can be fixed. So i quit,unless someone has a ''Way'', but
i doubt it.
SevenLionsHD said:
Well i didn't downloaded the Stock Rom, because i thought this one would've work (UVUAMDL Official TAR)
I did it with Odin and failed right away. I don't think this can be fixed. So i quit,unless someone has a ''Way'', but
i doubt it.
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You need either 4.3 or 4.4.2, MDL is 4.2.2, it'll never flash, so flash 4.3 or 4.4.2, you can only flash 4.3 if you had that firmware before you attempted to root, if you had the latest update you need 4.4.2!!
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serio22 said:
You need either 4.3 or 4.4.2, MDL is 4.2.2, it'll never flash, so flash 4.3 or 4.4.2, you can only flash 4.3 if you had that firmware before you attempted to root, if you had the latest update you need 4.4.2!!
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I fixed my phone..I bypassed the "SEANDROID EFORCING" screen..I had 4.4.2 before I tried to root..but since I bypassed it took me back to 4.2.2..and since then I've been getting issues on the phone such as: The wifi doesn't work and my mobile hotspot doesn't either. I can't update my android version since it tells me my phone was modified. But umm yeah.
SevenLionsHD said:
I fixed my phone..I bypassed the "SEANDROID EFORCING" screen..I had 4.4.2 before I tried to root..but since I bypassed it took me back to 4.2.2..and since then I've been getting issues on the phone such as: The wifi doesn't work and my mobile hotspot doesn't either. I can't update my android version since it tells me my phone was modified. But umm yeah.
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How did you manage to get it to 4.2? As far as I know downgrading from official 4.4 firmware WILL brick your phone. There's no way around it. I'm very curious to know how you did it! Thanks in advance!
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mrzhadow said:
How did you manage to get it to 4.2? As far as I know downgrading from official 4.4 firmware WILL brick your phone. There's no way around it. I'm very curious to know how you did it! Thanks in advance!
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When I was in 4.4.2 I wanted to root it (of course) but I used the wrong baseband version/file so it messed up. Then it gave me like some type of warning saying (SEANDROID EFORCING) Warranty Bit: Kernel
I told my bro to fox it and he did, idk how he did it but he did. I search up on youtube SEANDROID EFORCING and I guess thats how he managed to save my phone.
SevenLionsHD said:
I fixed my phone..I bypassed the "SEANDROID EFORCING" screen..I had 4.4.2 before I tried to root..but since I bypassed it took me back to 4.2.2..and since then I've been getting issues on the phone such as: The wifi doesn't work and my mobile hotspot doesn't either. I can't update my android version since it tells me my phone was modified. But umm yeah.
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That's what happens when you flash a 4.2.2 ROM which you can still do.. that SEANDROID message doesn't prevent anything so there is nothing to bypass.. If you're ok with 4.2.2 then I guess you're good but personally I would prefer to be at least on 4.3.. All you have to do is follow my previous directions
Edit: you could also just flash a 4.3 or 4.4.2 ROM
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serio22 said:
That's what happens when you flash a 4.2.2 ROM which you can still do.. that SEANDROID message doesn't prevent anything so there is nothing to bypass.. If you're ok with 4.2.2 then I guess you're good but personally I would prefer to be at least on 4.3.. All you have to do is follow my previous directions
Edit: you could also just flash a 4.3 or 4.4.2 ROM
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I'm good on 4.2.2, just wondering if 4.3 will fix my Wifi issues. If not there is no point in going to 4.3
SevenLionsHD said:
I'm good on 4.2.2, just wondering if 4.3 will fix my Wifi issues. If not there is no point in going to 4.3
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It should
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After flashing a Rom from the drippler app I lost my data and cellular signal. I also lost my imei info. Please help
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What Rom?
Is it compatible for the T889?
Need more info....
androidrook said:
After flashing a Rom from the drippler app I lost my data and cellular signal. I also lost my imei info. Please help
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Could be either an n7100 rom or if it was an n7105 rom just re flash your modem and you should get baseband back. If n7100 just odin back to a fully stock image to get baseband back.
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The ROM is called DN3_v5+_by_E-team. I have tryed flashing radio and modem. I also tryed using Odin back to stock but it runs most of the flash but then Odin fails at the end. When I try to turn phone on I get bootloop
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androidrook said:
The ROM is called DN3_v5+_by_E-team. I have tryed flashing radio and modem. I also tryed using Odin back to stock but it runs most of the flash but then Odin fails at the end. When I try to turn phone on I get bootloop
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It's not for the t889 it's a n7100 rom which needs mostly this to be ported over. modem, kernel, bin files, lib files, csc files and build prop change. your better flashing the DN3 V4 in att forum as it's compatible with your phone. You may need to factory reset after flashing an odin image to stop boot looping.
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cnote74 said:
It's not for the t889 it's a n7100 rom which needs mostly this to be ported over. modem, kernel, bin files, lib files, csc files and build prop change. your better flashing the DN3 V4 in att forum as it's compatible with your phone. You may need to factory reset after flashing an odin image to stop boot looping.
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Okay i used Odin to flah a stock rom and did the factory reset to stop bootloop. i still dont have cellular or data signal and my imei number and baseband still say unknown. any ideas?
androidrook said:
Okay i used Odin to flah a stock rom and did the factory reset to stop bootloop. i still dont have cellular or data signal and my imei number and baseband still say unknown. any ideas?
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Try flashing the newest t-mobile modem in either recovery or download mode if that doesn't work, then download the firmware with bootloader in it like your mk7 and flash it with odin.
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Where can I find the mk7 with bootloader?
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androidrook said:
Where can I find the mk7 with bootloader?
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sammobile.com/firmwares search for t889 and you will find it.
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I have the a way to install baseband if you are rooted, custom, or even on cyanogenmod like I was. When i tried to flash the NE6 baseband i could not get it to work for the life of me. I wanted to flash without PC. This is the little guide I came up with and will post links also so it it easier.
1. Download a Stock NF1 Custom rom. Also download Triangle Away, Rashr, Mobile Odin, Stock Kernel and recovery, and the Modem + NON-HLOS for NF1 Thanks @toastido @Chainfire @DsLNeXuS
2. Now flash stock NF1 rom via custom recovery
3. Once on NF1 firmware and NF1 stock kernel you must flash NF1 stock recovery. I did the via Rashr app
4. Now that you are fully (kernel, rom, recovery) stock rooted you can use triangle away to reset your flash counter
5. Boot back up and use mobile odin to flash NF1 baseband and viola! Updated baseband without having to connect to a computer.
IF THIS HELPED DON'T FORGET TO HIT THANKS.
Thnx, but really, I can wait till I'm around a PC. That's quite the process
Thanks man. No problem. I had to do this as I was on cyanogen and didn't have a PC on hamd
ktetreault14 said:
Thanks man. No problem. I had to do this as I was on cyanogen and didn't have a PC on hamd
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thank you will try[emoji106][emoji111]
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mlock420 said:
thank you will try[emoji106][emoji111]
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no problem bro. let me know
You can't just flash the baseband in Odin with any rom?
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You still have to do triangle away and all that though. This is more of if you don't own a PC
The mobile Odin hyperlink in op directs to the rashr thread.
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dobbs3x said:
The mobile Odin hyperlink in op directs to the rashr thread.
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thanks
Great instructions but I just have one question regarding the modems. So which modem zip do I need to extract before flashing with Mobile Odin? The Modem only zip or the Modem NonHlos zip? And if so, in Mobile Odin, which one is Modem #1 and Modem #2?
kartoon33 said:
Great instructions but I just have one question regarding the modems. So which modem zip do I need to extract before flashing with Mobile Odin? The Modem only zip or the Modem NonHlos zip? And if so, in Mobile Odin, which one is Modem #1 and Modem #2?
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just go to mobile odin and there is a button that says open file. it will auto open and put the modem and nonhlsos
where can i get the flashable zip of the stock firmware? all i have it the tar file but that wont work in recovery. sorry to bug ya again lol
Just flash a stock based rom. Ie Jovy base @chrisa887
any stock based rom like efferless since its ne6 based
I would try a nf1 based stock
This method also updates the bootloader?
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steve97ta said:
This method also updates the bootloader?
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nope. since your not fully flashing odin. only the modem
ktetreault14 said:
nope. since your not fully flashing odin. only the modem
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Alrighty thanks
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bump for people who haven't seen this yet