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[Q] 2Gb Vs 3Gb RAM

Hey!
Would like to know if it is noticeble the difference between the LG G3 the version of 3Gb of RAM from the 2Gb of RAM.
Any one have tested or know?
Thanks.

G3 uses 1.5 gb of ram at all times, so if you get the 2 gb version itll always be pretty close to the ceiling

nohcho said:
G3 uses 1.5 gb of ram at all times, so if you get the 2 gb version itll always be pretty close to the ceiling
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'One' of the main reasons I got the G3 was that it has 3GB ram. Most modern phones are pretty similar in terms of speed but memory makes a big difference. You can get by with 2gb but 3GB is much better and makes it much more future proof.

If you are using dual window for all apps through the little mod, you are less likely to have issues with running low on memory.
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Currently it doesn't really matter - Android 4.4 requires only 512 MB.
The reason why a device with much RAM shows a high RAM usage is that Android considers empty/unused RAM to be wasted. As long as there is RAM available it will fill it with apps. It doesn't require additional battery power to keep a currently unused app in the RAM, it even saves power (and time) at the app's next usage because instead of loading the app it just needs to shove it to the front.
There is a defined amount of RAM that is kept empty for instantaneous usage, but everything else will get filled - provided that there are enough apps to fill it with. Android's memory management keeps track of your app usage. Apps that are used regularly get a high priority, seldom used apps a low one. If the system runs out of memory it will close low priority apps, beginning with those that haven't been used for the longest amount of time.
The only difference between 2 GB and 3 GB is that more seldom used apps can be held in the RAM. Under normal circumstances you shouldn't be able to tell the difference between 2 GB and 3 GB. About half of the devices shipped with KitKat still only have 1 GB.
Android L will probably require 1 GB - and with the 64bit support it might even result in devices with more than 4 GB of RAM. But that will be just for marketing, not because there is a technical need. Same as now with the 3 GB devices.
But I have to admit: I am a sucker for specs as well. I think about buying a G3 and since the surcharge for the 32 GB flash and the 3 GB RAM is only about 10% if will most likely go for the bigger one. I try to hide being suckered with the argument that 32 GB of flash are a lot better than 16 GB. - RAM? There is a difference in RAM sizes?

[Q] Amount of free RAM

Hi,
What is the current situation on the amount of free RAM available in the 2GB version of this phone? Does it still have only around 500MB available after cleaning the RAM, or has this been improved by software updates?
I'm thinking about getting the 2GB RAM version of the G3, but I'm concerned about the amount of RAM that's actually usable on this device for apps, and not system related stuff. I have read in previous threads that there is only around 500 MB of free RAM available on this phone after rebooting, which would be unacceptable for me as much older devices such as the Note 2 and the Nexus 5 have about 1.3GB RAM available for apps. Even my 3 year old Galaxy S3 has 300MB and it constantly gives me issues by closing apps while I'm multitasking and I don't want to relive that with the next phone.
Don't give me the "free ram is wasted ram" speech as I do intend on keeping the RAM full, but with apps that matter to me and my multitasking.
Thanks.

Bump. So the question is: how much RAM do you have free after clearing it on the latest firmware?

errmalt said:
Bump. So the question is: how much RAM do you have free after clearing it on the latest firmware?
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With greenify I have around 800mb free ram after reboot
Phone has been on for about 12 hours, I just closed all apps and I have around 600mb free.

On my rooted D855 running 10H, I usually have 450-500MB of RAM free (without me killing anything or using any greenify apps or such). I find even with "only" 2GB of RAM, my G3 can handle all the multitasking I throw at it. I don't find myself wishing that my phone had more RAM. It's not something to get too worried over.

VS985 here. Probably not the info you're looking for as my model comes with 3GB, but immediately after clearing RAM I had 1.2GB available. However, I've noticed over the past 9 days of owning this device I'm usually hovering between 500MB-800MB of free RAM after using it (and many different apps) for an extended period of time.

[Q] LG G4 free ram, anyone know?

how many mb left after you clear the RAM?
thanks

no one knows?
i just dont want to have a flagship with free ram 500mb only like S6 edge

You do know that free ram isn't a factor on performance with Android right? Also get rid of your bloat. My L90 has almost 400 free all the time and i have a gig of ram.

xantanion said:
You do know that free ram isn't a factor on performance with Android right? Also get rid of your bloat. My L90 has almost 400 free all the time and i have a gig of ram.
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I know
But my xiaomi redmi 1s has 400mb free ram and my super expensive S6 EDGE only has 500mb left after I clear the RAM
And no ... bloatware removal and everything don't help
It makes my Chrome browser reload reload reload reload reload the page over and over and over and over again
Wasting my mobile data plan
All i want to know is how much the free ram on the G4

Hope this helps!
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jason-tech-uk said:
Hope this helps!
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many thanks!!

My H815 had about 1.4GB free after cleaning open apps pretty much after just starting it up and not installing much.

chobits said:
how many mb left after you clear the RAM?
thanks
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free ram is wasted ram, keep this in mind if you are looking for best performance and not just for a good illusionary feeling to have a lot of capacity in reserve

xantanion said:
You do know that free ram isn't a factor on performance with Android right? Also get rid of your bloat. My L90 has almost 400 free all the time and i have a gig of ram.
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Wait what?
First you tell him RAM no matter for performance - which is utter nonsense & one simple bit of proof on that is the fact since day 1 of the first Droid phone - 2009 - we have gone from 256 to 512 to 1gb to 2gb to 3gb & some are about to push 4gb RAM. If it's not a performance benefit why is that 1 spec that has & does continued to grow? Because it SERIOUSLY matters for performance.
But then you contradict yourself by telling him to clear bloat... but if RAM does not matter why advise cleaning out bloatware?
Ps - do some research on the S6 memory leak... RAM matters & phones with 1gb RAM should be outlawed

Oh I'm sorry perhaps I should have just done this http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Free ram does not matter as I was saying. if your phone is laggy the main reason for this will be the BLOAT that is installed by your carrier or the os itself. Ram works differently in android than it does on windows and other operating systems. so as I said FREE RAM. doesn't matter as long as you have enough on it for whatever programs you are running. 1 gig works just fine for everything I do. Then again I don't game on my phone, I do that on a computer or a console.

xantanion said:
Oh I'm sorry perhaps I should have just done this http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Free ram does not matter as I was saying. if your phone is laggy the main reason for this will be the BLOAT that is installed by your carrier or the os itself. Ram works differently in android than it does on windows and other operating systems. so as I said FREE RAM. doesn't matter as long as you have enough on it for whatever programs you are running. 1 gig works just fine for everything I do. Then again I don't game on my phone, I do that on a computer or a console.
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1. did you actually just link to a 2011 article?
2. you did not answer my question as to why RAM numbers keep going up yearly and have since the first Droid? If it is of no value, why add cost by adding more? Of all the things a phone maker can and does do, why keep adding RAM and yet, for example, drop the MicroSD?
3. And, if bloat removal is the answer.. why? I will tell you why.. they are eating RAM. If it is not that, then why worry about bloat? Of course, you can worry about bloat if you are low on storage, but assume storage is fine (you have 20 of 32gb free for example). Ok, remove bloat and then what? How did it benefit you? It benefitted you by not having apps using RAM - simply put. Which pretty much is saying performance is impacted by bloat which impacts available RAM which impacts performance so cut out your bloatware and improve performance and... free up more RAM.
ps - I don't game either, I'll take more RAM any day.

Ok I have an LG G4 ATT. Fresh factory reset. All bloatware disabled or removed if able. Nothing installed at all yet. OS updated to current release. Straight simple stock phone. No accounts set for anything. phone uses 2.7g of RAM available. Phone turned on with brand new battery dies at 7% in 10min. 3batterys all new tested. Issue is the excessive amount of RAM being used. Android os alone shouldn't kill a phone. This is point blank fact. Phone stated battery life is trashed and is pointless of even mentioning if the RAM issue doesn't matter. Bottom line. Theirs a issue. Developers or manufacturers of these phones needs to quit worrying about making all this money just by adding more RAM. RAM is used in same way as a PC. (Random Access memory) not (ready available memory)
And just a say to these companies making new phones. Make the phones for the people that's buying them not to add money to ur pockets. A non removable battery? Why even think that will make things better? Batteries go bad. We all know this. Removing the micro SD slots. Blocking us from using the SD as a write disk. Oh i forgot. Companies making these phone want only our money. Got ya. They know we have to either buy a new phone when that battery goes bad, u have to buy this 32gb or 64gb or 128gb phone at retarded added costs for more space. Stop thinking ur helping the world by making sopused better phones. Start listening to the buyers and what we want. Ur likely to actually make better devices and make more money in the long run.
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OP3 use of RAM memory

Hello, i recently bought a One Plus 3, basically because i wanted to have more RAM, but i noticed that even though i have like 6Gb of Ram to do whatever i want, the phone uses with nothing open like 1,5Gb of RAM, the 500mb of RAM doesn't bother me because they come from apps i usually use, but the fact the launcher itself uses 1Gb is like way too much, i come from a Galaxy S3 with less than 1Gb of Ram and the TouchWiz laucher which is heavy only used like 400-500mb of RAM why is this? I know the easiest answer would be that the OP3 has more things, but do we really gain a lot more of functions that justify this heavy use of RAM from the launcher, or are we looking at not-well optimized launcher?

well your gs3 couldnt really use 1gb of ram and the oneplus 3 can. easy as that.

timrock7 said:
well your gs3 couldnt really use 1gb of ram and the oneplus 3 can. easy as that.
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that means the OP3 is not as well optimized as the touchwiz?

No.. GS3 runs older OS like kitkat but as OS Improves they require more ram OP3 is now on Nougat which is amazing so duh... It needs more ram

Unused RAM is wasted RAM. As the OP3 has 6GB of RAM, it can allocate more RAM to certain apps and the launcher to ensure that nothing is closed in the background and everything runs smooth. Don't worry about RAM usage. For example if you launch a game, the game will then have priority to ensure that it is allocated enough RAM. Android is smart in its use of RAM so no need to worry.

tommybarchi said:
Hello, i recently bought a One Plus 3, basically because i wanted to have more RAM, but i noticed that even though i have like 6Gb of Ram to do whatever i want, the phone uses with nothing open like 1,5Gb of RAM, the 500mb of RAM doesn't bother me because they come from apps i usually use, but the fact the launcher itself uses 1Gb is like way too much, i come from a Galaxy S3 with less than 1Gb of Ram and the TouchWiz laucher which is heavy only used like 400-500mb of RAM why is this? I know the easiest answer would be that the OP3 has more things, but do we really gain a lot more of functions that justify this heavy use of RAM from the launcher, or are we looking at not-well optimized launcher?
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That's why we have 6 gigs of RAM. Think little bit. They can use it as we have it. Pretty simple, right?

See its similar to methodology as if you you have larger space on bed you will occupy more space, similar to this when you have higher ram allocation to particular app is continuously decreased and increased so if no other apps are running allocation to your launcher will be higher to give it a smoother operation but as you start opening more ram hungry apps the allocation then decreases allocation for uelr launcher and allocate it accordingly

Go check how RAM and RAM management works.
It's kinda pointless to waste time explaining something here if you lack the basics about this topic.
Long story short: the more you have, the more will be used. Take the same desktop OS, install it on machines with vastly different RAM capacities and you'll see different RAM usages.
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The more used ram the better, at least in vast majority of scenarios

LG G7 RAM usage

Hi,
My one day old LG G7 shows 2.74Gb in use and 0.99Gb free with no apps running (there's an LG Smart Doctor app I use to look at this and cleared all apps from memory).
I have very few apps installed and disabled what I could from the preinstalled ones.
This seems very high to me. Or is it normal?
Thanks

Normal
tatalor2 said:
Hi,
My one day old LG G7 shows 2.74Gb in use and 0.99Gb free with no apps running (there's an LG Smart Doctor app I use to look at this and cleared all apps from memory).
I have very few apps installed and disabled what I could from the preinstalled ones.
This seems very high to me. Or is it normal?
Thanks
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Considering the fact that's an LG phone that's pretty Normal
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Atifbaig786 said:
NormalConsidering the fact that's an LG phone that's pretty Normal
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Not sure what it means, do customized Android is so heavy on RAM usage? Is it the same for Samsung S9 or HTC 12, for example?
How much RAM is free with no apps loaded on Google Pixel 3?

tatalor2 said:
Not sure what it means, do customized Android is so heavy on RAM usage? Is it the same for Samsung S9 or HTC 12, for example?
How much RAM is free with no apps loaded on Google Pixel 3?
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I owned an LG phone with 4GB ram and had about 700-1300 free at normal usage.
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Thread moved to correct device area.
Sidenote: Un-used RAM is wasted RAM. It's nothing to worry about.

After a restart my RAM went to 1.2Gb free and about 2.5Gb in use with no apps open. I read up a bit about how Android works but still feels like this is on a very low side. How are things on your phones with no apps opened?

Redline said:
Thread moved to correct device area.
Sidenote: Un-used RAM is wasted RAM. It's nothing to worry about.
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This is the correct answer to the question of the OP. Android tries to use as much RAM as possible to avoid having to restart apps.

If you have something in RAM it's going to open faster than it will from the disk, in our case flash storage.
Phones are mostly less-affected by paging to the storage when the memory is low, which is how Windows works for example.
Because the flash storage is fast (not as fast as the RAM though) it's generally un-noticable.
If something is in RAM, it's either waiting to be used or being used. These include services from apps that might be closed but run in the background. Keeping these in RAM uses less power than asking the flash storage for the data every-time it's needed.
You don't need to worry about specifically high RAM usage. If you have the 4GB RAM model, then having about 1GB free, give or take a few hundred MB depending on your apps, is normal.
I have just under 1GB free with nothing open on a slimmed-down LineageOS V20 that only has 3GB of RAM. You can assume 2-3GB of Android system usage on a stock ROM depending on how long the device has been on for, how heavily the manufacturer has modified/bloated it, and other varying factors.
This leaves you with the remaining amount of RAM you've mentioned for you to do what you want with your apps. 1.2GB free and 2.5GB in use is roughly where it should be on freshly-booted stock ROM.
The only way to increase the RAM you have would be to root and de-bloat it by freezing the apps you don't use.
Facebook and Messenger can easily hog up to half a gig of RAM in total after a while, and using the Lite versions of apps like these can help.
I wouldn't worry at all if I was you. When my V20 was running a stock ROM, even after a week of usage I still had about half a gig of RAM left. If you're constantly cleaning it then it means apps have to stop and re-start services after the clear is complete, which wastes time, power and efficiency.
Android is good at what it does. Let it do it

Redline said:
If you have something in RAM it's going to open faster than it will from the disk, in our case flash storage.
Phones are mostly less-affected by paging to the storage when the memory is low, which is how Windows works for example.
Because the flash storage is fast (not as fast as the RAM though) it's generally un-noticable.
If something is in RAM, it's either waiting to be used or being used. These include services from apps that might be closed but run in the background. Keeping these in RAM uses less power than asking the flash storage for the data every-time it's needed.
You don't need to worry about specifically high RAM usage. If you have the 4GB RAM model, then having about 1GB free, give or take a few hundred MB depending on your apps, is normal.
I have just under 1GB free with nothing open on a slimmed-down LineageOS V20 that only has 3GB of RAM. You can assume 2-3GB of Android system usage on a stock ROM depending on how long the device has been on for, how heavily the manufacturer has modified/bloated it, and other varying factors.
This leaves you with the remaining amount of RAM you've mentioned for you to do what you want with your apps. 1.2GB free and 2.5GB in use is roughly where it should be on freshly-booted stock ROM.
The only way to increase the RAM you have would be to root and de-bloat it by freezing the apps you don't use.
Facebook and Messenger can easily hog up to half a gig of RAM in total after a while, and using the Lite versions of apps like these can help.
I wouldn't worry at all if I was you. When my V20 was running a stock ROM, even after a week of usage I still had about half a gig of RAM left. If you're constantly cleaning it then it means apps have to stop and re-start services after the clear is complete, which wastes time, power and efficiency.
Android is good at what it does. Let it do it
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Ok then, so nothing to worry here, it seems. I'll just stop checking it as long as I see no lag. Which I don't