Feedback from a bigger screen - Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
I'm really interested in this phone and I've been reading many threads here. Althought I saw some small comments and feedback from the owners of the Z1C, I haven't seen any major issues with the screen size. I currently have a nexus 4 with its 4.7 inch and I was wondering if I could hear more from the people that came from a 4.7 inch or bigger to the Z1C. I have the chance to buy this phone, but the screen is holding me back. How does it feel to use a 4.3 inch?
P.S.: HTC One owners are specially welcome to comment
P.S.: Does the phone have object removal?
Thank you for the attention and hope I haven't posted on the wrong topic!

Just go to the store and see for yourself...that's what I did. I've owned the Nexus 4, moved to S4, moved on to HTC One and now i'm on the Z1C. To me the screensize is perfect. It's easier to control with one hand and for me it's still big enough.

I am a former HTC One owner. Sold my HTC One for the 2 reasons, that I wanted Xperia Z1 Compact than the HTC One and because of the purple tint issue(Check the purple tint thread in Q&A forum on that section I am one of the first to notice that issue). Although I might not be the right person you want to ask feedback for since I am a fan of small phones rather than large ones. I only bought the HTC One cause I got no choice that time lol! And instantly jumped back to Sony because of this small beauty. For my feedback... Screen is superb
What do you mean by object removal? Are you talking about the Zoe feature of HTC One that can remove objects? If so Z1 Compact does have a feature like that. But it's a little bit limited compared to HTC One. What I meant by limited is that you don't have any control on whether to remove an object or not. The phone automatically removes all the objects that move unlike the HTC One where it shows the objects that can be removed and you can just click it to remove it.
throne64 said:
Hey guys,
I'm really interested in this phone and I've been reading many threads here. Althought I saw some small comments and feedback from the owners of the Z1C, I haven't seen any major issues with the screen size. I currently have a nexus 4 with its 4.7 inch and I was wondering if I could hear more from the people that came from a 4.7 inch or higher to the Z1C. I have the chance to buy this phone, but the screen is holding me back. How does it feel to use a 4.3 inch?
P.S.: HTC One owner are specially welcome to comment
P.S.: Does the phone have object removal?
Thank you for the attention and hope I haven't posted on the wrong topic!
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Came from a Nexus 4, no problem what so ever to adjust to the Z1C.

Came from HTC One, bought the Z1 Compact, love it, the perfect phone at the moment, unless you want a phablet.
Before HTC One I had iPhones for 6 years. The first Android-phone fulfilling my requirements (build quality/feel) was the HTC One, and it was a descent size/performance at the time of it. But Z1 Compact is perfect right now.
Fantastic size, superior batterylife, great screen, faster than a bullet etc..

I'm coming from a N4 as well.
It really depends what you use your phone for and how big a phone you're willing to carry around.
I use my phone mainly for calls, txt, and email. I'll occasionally use it for games, web browsing, and youtube vids, so for me, I'm really not sacrificing much going to a smaller screen.
The big factor for me was the size of the phone. The Z1C isn't THAT much smaller than a N4, but for me, the slightly smaller size makes a world of difference.
IMO, If you consume a lot of media on your phone, switching to a smaller screen might not be worth it.

I had HTC One before the Nexus 4 ... and a bunch of other phones before that ...
I currently have these 3, all functional (the defy is about to be decommissioned but I placed it next to the other two just for the sake of comparison).
To put it in few words: the Z1C is the best phone I ever had in terms of overall score.
Here are my toys

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I had HTC One before the Nexus 4 ... and a bunch of other phones before that ...
I currently have these 3, all functional (the defy is about to be decommissioned but I placed it next to the other two just for the sake of comparison).
To put it in few words: the Z1C is the best phone I ever had in terms of overall score.
Here are my toys
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Thank you a lot for the picture! I'm from the USA and I can't go anywhere here to have them compared. As some people here said, the difference between the Z1C and N4 is not really that much. But I'm still leaning towards the Z1C because comparing it with a HTC One, I can see how big the difference is. I'm not much into big phones ( but I admit that the Htc One is amazing)
Open question: Would anybody mind telling me how many and which are the modes of the camera? Did you have to root the Z1C to have any of them? No need to describe them all, it's just I've been seeing many reviews and they are all different: some have sphere mode, sphere 360, motion shot and others don't. I've also seen that some developers here are managing to port the features from the Z2. Are you all having sucess on it?
Sorry for all the question. For me there is a lot to consider before the final decision.
And thanks again for the replies! Really helpfull!

For a size comparison you can use a great online tool available on PhoneArena:
Here are N4 and Z1C side by side:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...xus-4,Sony-Xperia-Z1-Compact/phones/7531,8283

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Own a Galaxy Note but..

I'm a click away from buying this phone.
Anyone come from the Note? The One X worth it.
I have both since last week.
Note has bigger screen, which is better for e-reading, browsing, games.
One X fits better to the hand ('cause it's smaller); is faster in some very specific tasks (like indexing a stardict DICT to Fora dictionary), but overall in normal games and browsing, it's the same as Note; handle 1080p videos better than Note.
My One X has a yellowish screen, so take this thread I created yesterday with a grain of sault, since many One X's have normal white screens.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606636
myself11 said:
I have both since last week.
Note has bigger screen, which is better for e-reading, browsing, games.
One X fits better to the hand ('cause it's smaller); is faster in some very specific tasks (like indexing a stardict DICT to Fora dictionary), but overall in normal games and browsing, it's the same as Note; handle 1080p videos better than Note.
My One X has a yellowish screen, so take this thread I created yesterday with a grain of sault, since many One X's have normal white screens.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606636
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Thanks mate, sounds like I'm sticking to my Note then. Its only the size now and again that bothers me with the Note. Very tempted to buy the One X but the GSIII is around the corner but still fancy the One X :-/
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Thanks mate, sounds like I'm sticking to my Note then. Its only the size now and again that bothers me with the Note. Very tempted to buy the One X but the GSIII is around the corner but still fancy the One X :-/
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stick with the note mate and then just sell that and go for the galaxy s3..one x is a gorgeous phone, beautiful screen and all round one hell of a beast of a phone. but my first android phone was the s2. for me was easier to root and basically i could do anything i wanted with my eyes shut..so far with the HOX is like running a marathon...probs would get easier when there is a one click root procedure but for now to many problems and hassles with warranty if you unlock and etc..
anyways wait till the s3 comes out and then compare and go for the one you want...i know which one i would be looking at though
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stick with the note mate and then just sell that and go for the galaxy s3..one x is a gorgeous phone, beautiful screen and all round one hell of a beast of a phone. but my first android phone was the s2. for me was easier to root and basically i could do anything i wanted with my eyes shut..so far with the HOX is like running a marathon...probs would get easier when there is a one click root procedure but for now to many problems and hassles with warranty if you unlock and etc..
anyways wait till the s3 comes out and then compare and go for the one you want...i know which one i would be looking at though
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Sound advice. Thanks guys.
recklesslife85 said:
Sound advice. Thanks guys.
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I've had the one x since release and about 2 days later my wife got a galaxy note. To be perfectly honest, in the current state of both devices (both latest available releases) I can't find anything remotely better about the one x over the note. In fact I am quite embarrased to show my device to my wife after the build up I gave to her about it.
The only possible reason that I can think of for you to chose the one x right now is if all your trowsers have small pockets.
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I've had the one x since release and about 2 days later my wife got a galaxy note. To be perfectly honest, in the current state of both devices (both latest available releases) I can't find anything remotely better about the one x over the note. In fact I am quite embarrased to show my device to my wife after the build up I gave to her about it.
The only possible reason that I can think of for you to chose the one x right now is if all your trowsers have small pockets.
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Sell up and get the Note lol
Had the note which I was very happy with and now own the one x. I do prefer the one x over the note even with the issues because it suits my needs better. Also I hate tw and plastic feel to note. Personally if i were you i would wait for gs3 and then make a decision.
So I
recklesslife85 said:
Sell up and get the Note lol
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I'll swap with you!!
Second thoughts....I can't admit that my wife has a better device than me. I'll just have to pretend for the time being and hope things improve.
As others have said, stick with the Note and wait to see what the SGS3 has to offer, or for HTC to iron out all the software/build issues the One X has right now.
Yeah will stick to the Note. I'm running Stunner rom anyways so its near enough stock android. I'll check the Galaxy S3 and see if that's worth jumping ship.
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Gave my note to my son but am contemplating switching with him. Great device but the battery life simply is pathetic. Hopefully an update will solve the battery life issue but if it doesn't am going back to the note with the bigger screen and decent battery life.
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Get the HOX best phone I've had, no problems at all, had several android phones and tablets and this just obliterated all of them.
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Stick with the Note
recklesslife,
Stick with the Note and wait for the SGIII. Your a Samsung user and use to the TW. Further, its in the heads of the general public that Android's best phone is from Samsung (SGII). Therefore, the anticipation for the SGIII to best all smartphones including the IPhone is given. Even though HTC fans won't like it. The marketing Samsung has put into the SG line is great all over the world. HTC needs a more complete package in terms of marketing and reliability of their phones.
Most of you say keep the Note. So I guess that's what I'll do. Was tempted to buy the One X. Can't knock the note really so don't know why I want to get a different phone. One X does look nice..
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I owned a Note but as of about 5 mins ago I don't have it anymore but I would say go with the One X. I find the One X is far superior to the Note in every area except for pure screen size. For me I would rather have a better screen than a bigger screen. Oh and touchwiz isn't as heavy as sense nor as buggy as sense 4.0
Hate Touchwiz and hate phones with an overly plasticy finish. Why I ended up switching from a GSII to a Sensation.
I you plan to root though, doesn't really make much difference what phone you go for.
I was considering the G-Note also. I wanted something with a larger screen coming from a SGS2. My first choice was actually the Eluga Power. It has a much more modern processor, runs ICS out of the box, and has a smaller form factor than the G-Note. Unfortunately (for me), it only supports EU HSPA bands. But at the end of the day the G-Note really is older tech and just a gigantic SGS2 with S-Pen.
Here's a dimensions comparison:
Samsung Galaxy Note - 146.9x83x9.7mm, 178g
Panasonic Eluga Power - 136x70x9.6mm, 133g
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/1328692/samsung_galaxy_note_vs_panasonic_eluga_power.html
No offence to G-Note fans, but they look ridiculous when you hold them to your ear and you can't constantly wear a BT headset to avoid having to use it that way. I also have a 3G tablet so decided that 4.7ish" (HOX, GN, SGS3) was just more practical. Also, Samsung's release of ICS for the SGS2 has been a cluster so I can't imagine the G-Note's being any better.
Just some food for thought…
BarryH_GEG said:
I was considering the G-Note also. I wanted something with a larger screen coming from a SGS2. My first choice was actually the Eluga Power. It has a much more modern processor, runs ICS out of the box, and has a smaller form factor than the G-Note. Unfortunately (for me), it only supports EU HSPA bands. But at the end of the day the G-Note really is older tech and just a gigantic SGS2 with S-Pen.
Here's a dimensions comparison:
Samsung Galaxy Note - 146.9x83x9.7mm, 178g
Panasonic Eluga Power - 136x70x9.6mm, 133g
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/1328692/samsung_galaxy_note_vs_panasonic_eluga_power.html
No offence to G-Note fans, but they look ridiculous when you hold them to your ear and you can't constantly wear a BT headset to avoid having to use it that way. I also have a 3G tablet so decided that 4.7ish" (HOX, GN, SGS3) was just more practical. Also, Samsung's release of ICS for the SGS2 has been a cluster so I can't imagine the G-Note's being any better.
Just some food for thought…
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Note was launched on Oct. Obviously it will be outdated in terms of specs. Were you expecting otherwise?
GN is even more outdated. HOX can't even better iP4s in terms of GPU (forget about new iPad). We have no clue SGS3 -- is it called SGS3 or something else??
Which company have been any better in terms of ICS update? How many HTC/Moto/SE phones have been updated? Most people here don't prefer OEM skins anyway. So if someone is going to root and ROM, why bother about OEM release? You are not going to use it anyway. I can understand for the general mass, but for most people in the XDA, I don't think it's a valid argument.
I would say stick to what you think is best for you. No point in forcing my views and preferences. I have seen people happier with their dumb phones compared to other guys with expensive smart phones.
You need to tell us what experiences you want from a mobile before we can advise one way or the other. I have both so can give you a realistic idea about how each stack up in the areas of importance for your use.
I'm going to be writing a review for the One X for the Telecom Tech blog, and will compare it a lot to the Note, which I already reviewed at my site here (the most comprehensive review on the internet at 17,000 words, well worth reading and a good backdrop to the incoming One X review).

[Q] Time to upgrade........

OK, its time to upgrade my trusty DHD.....
...but what gets my hard-earned (no, really) pennies?
To me there are 4 options........
1) HTC One X
2) Samsung Galaxy Note
3) Wait until the 30th and get the Samsung Galaxy SIII
4) Keep the DHD for another 12 months and benefit from a cheaper contract.
So, if it was your pennies getting spent, where would they be going?
I'm looking for views from existing HOX users here. Do you love the HOX? Hate it? What do you like most about it, and what drives you potty?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Rob
I would have to say take HOX its a awesome device that will last u for 2 years or more
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Best advice is to go into a store and try out each phone (s3 excluded because not released), and see what you think.
Personally, hox is a damn good phone, but I tend to Get a hint of jealousy when I see my dad's Note haha. Don't know why, hox is faster and smoother with a quicker cam, but the notes screen is nice haha.
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Thanks guys.
Kyle - I did just that today, and like them both (to a point).
The HTC just seems too safe, coming from the DHD (and 4 HTC's before it). Maybe I need something a bit different?
The Note, well it's certainly different, but its a Samsung. Samsung made my washing machine, and I've just had to have that repaired. To my knowledge HTC never made a washer.
Aaaarghh - this is agony!
Well the note was well too big for me and instore the One X did seem rather big against my Desire..
but now when I hold my Htc One X and then hold my desire aswell, my desire seems so outdated and cramped I could never go back...
It seems quite durable as well the One X... Not that I throw it around but its really good quality and not glass, so I'm not worried about it so much..
I came from a DHD (awesome device btw) an am pretty happy with the HOX. Screen is better, brighter, more ppi, and compared to the competition, LCD is far better. CPU is amazing, you can run your tablet tegra zone games on your phone too. Battery is definately an improvement, the camera also (which is not surprizing knowing the battery and camera of the DHD). The phone feels a bit light though
Anyway, get what you like most and never forget that Samsung doesn't make just washing machines. Their vacuum cleaner business is doing pretty well too.
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Hello everybody,
I have both a HOX and a galaxy note from work.
Note's battery isn't as good, bit it's true that the screen's size is bluffing.
I wouldn't really buy the note for personal use cause it's too big and you don't have enough battery to be able to mess around with it for the whole day .
Camera is better that htc, smarter, focus with flash, nice macre etc.
It's a really good phone, but for professional use in my opinion.
One X's design is beautiful as is the screen quality. Very fast, smooth and I wouldn't trade Sense for the world.
Hope it helps.
Edit: btw I also upgraded from a DHD and the first thing that bluffed me was the weight and design
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I had a DHD for 18 months, then I bought a Note. Returned it a week later, bought a HOX. Loved it, it's like keeping your DHD but upgrading everything about it.
Thanks everyone. Still teetering on the brink...... Hox... Note..... Note..... Hox......
Are you a thumbtyper? Forget the Note if you are, thumbtyping in horizontal view is actually sore after a while, the menu & home buttons are in an uncomfortable position.
Also, the Note camera is not in the same league as the X. The X has an amazing camera, the Note is just good.
Touchwiz (Samsung's interface) is also not in the same league as Sense, it feels clunky and unimaginative in comparison.
If you buy from Amazon, you can return a phone within 7 days (I did this) so maybe you should try there.
The only benefit the Note has over the X is the larger screen, but i don't think it's worth it for all the cons (compared with X)
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Interestingly, I would also have termed myself a HTC fanboy up until the One X and S were launched. I just find them a tad uninspiring.
Thanks for the tip on the 7 day return. On this basis I've decided (with a feeling of I'm cheating on a loved one) to get a Note online, then I can return it under distance selling laws if I find it unbearable to live with.
Genuinely, many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. Your insight has been much appreciated.
Rob
Cool. If you decide to keep the Note, give me a PM, i have some screen protectors you can have for the price of postage.
Oh and the 7 day return is actually 14 or 30 days, i'm not sure, and remember to keep the original packaging :thumbup:
I came from DHD too!
The jump was... WAHOA!!!
The differences are incredible. I really really love this One!
HOX is almost half the weight of DHD and at least twice faster! And Sense 4.0+ICS is really cool combo (IMO).
Only 2 downsides:
- at first it couldn't keep my provider signal and it was stucked in roaming (fixed changing the favorite settings in the Mobile net settings);
- with normal usage the battery is good, but if you start using it for games or videos it drains really fast (but not as fast as DHD's, and there's pleny of battery fixing posts around here)

Need help to decide: Galaxy Note or HTC One X

Hi guys,
I really need your help to decide on whether or not I should trade my Galaxy Note for the HTC One X. I currently have the international version of the Note but since last week I have been hating it for the following reasons:
1) I installed ICS update on it and it's really garbage. The Touchwiz skin really makes ICS update not apparent at all.
2) Buggy official ROM. As you might be aware, there is a currently superbrick bug on the Galaxy Note even for official ROM. The phone will be bricked permanently after a wipe in CWM. The one to be blamed for this is of course Samsung.
Because of these bad supports, I am kinda leaning toward trading in my Notes for the One X. However, I heard some bad points about the One X too such as bad battery life, bad multitasking (especially since last update) and being too hot and got throttled down.
Can you guys share your opinions on this ? I tried the One X out at the store and I quite like the feels of holding the One X. Just try to look for some advice before I decide.
Thanks and cheers for your help,
Well I traded my note for a one x and I'm so glad I did while I was impressed by the note the one x is such a beautiful phone
Yes the battery life isn't as great but what phone these days has a battery that will last forever lol
Nevertheless HTC are bringing updates out quite frequently so I expect this phone to improve in areas that people are complaining about I haven't had any problems so can't comment
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HTC One X why pay $200 extra for basically the same thing that next year will be out of date anyways. Plus the One X rocks! Use the search their are plenty of comparisons.
I have both Galaxy Note and One X I love the One X display compared to the note it really is an amazing looking screen the apps and widgets just sit on top like their floating on water and phones all around design is killer. Everyone that has saw it has been amazed. I can't see paying an extra $200 for the GS3, I just don't see much of a difference yeah the GS3 will probably beat the One X in benchmarks but not by that much that you are really going to be able to tell during everyday use.
The one X has handled everything I've thrown at it so far. and by the time it wont be able to run an app or game it will be time to upgrade anyways.
Its personal preference pay $200 more for the s3 or buy the One X and be happy with a phone that is amazing. 32GB with 25GB dropbox is enough for me I remember trying to fill 16GBs and it was hard and if I need to I can move things back and forth from my computer with a simple USB cord.
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HTC One X why pay $200 extra for basically the same thing that next year will be out of date anyways. Plus the One X rocks! Use the search their are plenty of comparisons.
I have both Galaxy Note and One X I love the One X display compared to the note it really is an amazing looking screen the apps and widgets just sit on top like their floating on water and phones all around design is killer. Everyone that has saw it has been amazed. I can't see paying an extra $200 for the GS3, I just don't see much of a difference yeah the GS3 will probably beat the One X in benchmarks but not by that much that you are really going to be able to tell during everyday use.
The one X has handled everything I've thrown at it so far. and by the time it wont be able to run an app or game it will be time to upgrade anyways.
Its personal preference pay $200 more for the s3 or buy the One X and be happy with a phone that is amazing. 32GB with 25GB dropbox is enough for me I remember trying to fill 16GBs and it was hard and if I need to I can move things back and forth from my computer with a simple USB cord.
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LOL, I was asking about the Note ha ha but thanks anyway. I currently have the Note and wondering if I should go HTC One X next. I am sick of how irresponsible Samsung are. The Note will be my last Samsung phone.
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I too came from a note for a one x.
The beauty of the one x is far superior, over the years HTC have worked hard on presentation among other things, samsungs stock, im an oversized iphone look hasnt changed in years.
When it comes too stability browsing, the Note beats the HTC into submission im afraid, but this is because it runs a solid and stable GB os, far superior to the crappy versions of ics we run on the htc, and before anyone jumps in screaming ICS rocks, wake up, if you think ICS is bug free and the finished article then youre clearly not seeing the facts. GB is more stable, but there again, its been around a lot longer, i expect ics will be just as good when it is the polished article.
The note was way too clumsy as a phone, one of the reasons i gave up on it, the one x is much nicer in every design way possible, plus the one x has superior power over the note, and i wouldnt worry about battery, i get a day from my one x, thats no different to what my note gave me.
The main reason i left the note was because the custom development side of the note forum on here became a massive issue for me, too many releases were responsible for bricking peoples Notes beyond repair, it became unsafe to flash custom software from over there, not that im blaming anyone, great group of lads, but the minute that happened i lost all faith.
The development just became a Miui thread in the end practically, it was time to move on, ive had a htc before and i know on here, some of the developers and cooks have a very very good reputation, one of the reasons i chose HTC because i know when these lads finally get to grips with the s-on problem there will be no end to the development, and the note hasnt even had official ics yet, what a joke, i think with android 5.0 around the corner, the future of htc and one x is safe on this forum, youll get updates a lot faster than on samsung.
Horses for courses my friend, it is your choice, but i agree with toonarmy, HTC ONE X, bring it on, it can only get better from here on.
Read my post on the guys thread who was asking GSIII or One X Rom support
Thanks for your informative post. That's true though. I have the Galaxy S, S2 and now the Note and I feel they are pretty much the same. The Touchwiz skin turns out to be worse than I initially thought. To make it worse, they cover ICS native skin with this fugly skin and make it so fugly beyond repairs.
To top it off, because of the superbrick bug, I am so scared to flash any official ROM and to even update my device to official ICS ROM. This really killed the whole purpose of getting an Android phone, which is to do whatever you like with it.
Beside, I did some wipes when I was in ICS and according to the guys in the Galaxy Note forum, my eMMC might have been damaged. I really don't want to deal with all the warranty repair hassle so it might be the right time for me to get rid of my Note.
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Thanks for your informative post. That's true though. I have the Galaxy S, S2 and now the Note and I feel they are pretty much the same. The Touchwiz skin turns out to be worse than I initially thought. To make it worse, they cover ICS native skin with this fugly skin and make it so fugly beyond repairs.
To top it off, because of the superbrick bug, I am so scared to flash any official ROM and to even update my device to official ICS ROM. This really killed the whole purpose of getting an Android phone, which is to do whatever you like with it.
Beside, I did some wipes when I was in ICS and according to the guys in the Galaxy Note forum, my eMMC might have been damaged. I really don't want to deal with all the warranty repair hassle so it might be the right time for me to get rid of my Note.
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One thing i hate about Samsung, touchwiz 3 at sgs1 and they didn't update it to touchwiz 4, unlike dhd which one got updated from 2.0 to 3.6 and possibly even to 4.0. Samsung sucks at updates.
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I was thinking about buying one X too but reading this forum indicates so many problem with quality built. I just sit out for now because if I buy iy, it will be from Ebay or Amazon (live in US) and very difficult with warranty and stuff.
Take the One X and you won`t be sorry. I had the Note and i didn`t use the whole pen utility`s (notes and drawings). I just loved the big screen and the powerfull cpu. But the amount of pixels slowed it down quite heavily in performance.
The One X seems snappier and more direct imo.
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LOL, I was asking about the Note ha ha but thanks anyway. I currently have the Note and wondering if I should go HTC One X next. I am sick of how irresponsible Samsung are. The Note will be my last Samsung phone.
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My bad I'm so used to post saying should i get SG3 or One X, man that drives me crazy.... They both are good in their own rights. But anyways once again my bad just a little jumpy with all the SG3 or One X post I see. People need to search and their are already hundreds.................X10 SG3 or One X post.
I should have added some useful info since I own both. Here is how I see it the Note is a good PDA IMO. Its just doesn't have the feel of a phone to me, its not really good to carry around for everyday use. Its nice size screen for certain things I use mine like a tablet basically. I just needed something I could carry in my pocket and the note just didn't really fit right, I don't really like touch-wiz it feels like you are still on gingerbread, the way its designed. The display kills it when trying to watch a video it shows artifacts in the blacks, like really old .AVI videos. Thats just my personal opinion.
I think, htc one x. Sound is good, lighter and more compact than note.
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My friend has the note, and I did a quick comparison with my one X.
The one X is super smooth scrolling between homescreens etc, wheras there is a noticeable lag on the note, in nearly everything.
The screen is good on the note, but the one X is so much better, in both colour reproduction and of course pixel density
And the one X is really nice to hold and use on an everyday basis, whereas the note is unwieldy and too shiny, so really slippery in hand
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For me it's simples, build and feel quality. Samsung consistently produce sub-par products in the quality of materials department........and that's being kind.
HTC have always produced premium feeling hardware and the HOX is no exception.
Note or One X
Had my HTC one X for a week now and very happy with it. Previously had a Galaxy S and wasn't impressed with the Touch Wiz interface so that put me off the Note as did the size ,thought 5.3 inch was a little OTT.
Very happy with it so far. The stock Rom runs very smooth even with the Vodafone clutter installed. If it carries on as it is now i wont even look at custom ROM as there will be no point.
Only downer is the battery but as pointed out by someone earlier that's the deal with a smartphone . I charge once a day and although i would like it to last longer i can cope. Think those of us who have had a few smartfones now accept we have to manage the battery ourselves so if im at work and not using it i turn to 2g, brightness down and turn off auto sync and i can get from 9-6 with 91% left then i can go mad with all the bells and whistles on when im out and about with worry. Seems like a hassle altering the settings for different situations but it only takes 20 seconds in reality with a few well places shortcuts.
Love the feel as well, very hard to let slip in the hand unless some more plastic y phones.
Now I think HTC one x quality is perfect rather than the first batch of phones.. I got the first batch also with flaws but HTC swapped it with a perfect one.. ht24 serial rather than ht23.. by the way, I held the note side by side to my one x and the camera and screen of the one x is much superior than the note IMHO.. the guys posted before is right same old style, feel and interface with galaxy series nothing new just the size rather than sense UI..
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I could add that HTC One X has a super nice GPS - takes about 4s to get signal in buildings - that's just ridicules
I traded my Note for this bad boy. Well worth it my friend
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I have both and I like both.
I prefer One X cause it's more portable and has clearly a better screen. GNote has the advantage (while One X doesn't get S-OFF) of allowing to install custom roms without voiding warranty and of the bigger screen, which really makes a difference for e-reading.
I have both and I have ended up using the One X more. There are things that I really love about the note, but the updates and ICS on it are a let down. I for one really like sense and have since win mo days. To each his own

Should I get this phone?

It is August 3 2013 and this phone has been out for a little while now. I am looking for a new phone because I need to switch carriers. I currently have a Galaxy Note 2 and I absolutely love it. I see that Sony announced they will update it to 4.3. The screen is only 0.5" smaller then my Note 2. The Sony has a higher resolution though. The battery life doesn't seem to be a problem for most of you (I checked the battery thread). Do all of you who currently own the Sony absolutely love the phone? Do you wish you tried a different phone? I love the look of the phone.
I am stuck between the Galaxy S4, HTC one, and this ZL. The S4 seems to have a ton of bloatware that I will never use but since the Google edition was announced, I might be able to flash a stock version of android on it once they figure out the battery drain issue. Same goes for the HTC one. I love the Sony for no apparent reason. It looks like a decent phone on paper and I remember reading about how Sony is really making an effort to help out developers. They also seem to keep updating this phone (4.2.2 and 4.3).
I need to decide soon so I appreciate any responses!
Edit** was this phone really just released 4 months ago? For some reason I thought it was older.
It's your decision of course and nobody here can really make that decision for you... it's a very subjective topic and you will get 100 different "answers".
However, I'll give you my highly subjective and personal opinion... for what it's worth.
I have both the Z and ZL, a GS3 and have had an HTC One. The GS3 is a reliable and usable phone that is easy to mod. It does everything well, except the screen is really unreadable outside. The 2 particular key points for me on phones, other than the ability to function reliably as a phone, are a good notification LED and a decent FM radio. The Radio is quite passable on the GS3. I bought an HTC One to replace the GS3 and was both impressed by some aspects and seriously disappointed by others. The notification LED is a joke and the FM radio was chronically insensitive to the point of being worthless. Plus the speaker grilles didn't fit correctly. It lasted a week and then got returned.
The GS4 doesn't have an FM radio... pathetic discrimination
Anyway, on to Sony...
The Z was bought in lieu of the H1. I've always liked Sony and SE phones, they are designed in Scandinavia and it shows, certainly in the electronic design and qualification. I also bought the ZL whilst on a business trip in Germany a week or two later. Both phones are great, but I prefer the ZL - because it is physically smaller (thicker but nicer to hold), has a better screen (higher brightness and contrast plus better viewing angles), no flaps to mess about with, the Sony logo is on the phone not the ASF (gives you more options) and has a slightly better notification LED. The FM radio is fantastic on both, although for some reason the Z is more sensitive, by about 10% I reckon. I also prefer the easy access SIM and SD card slots. The loudspeaker on the ZL is not restricted by waterproofing and is thus a fair bit louder...
So for me, the ZL is my phone of choice. It does everything I need and well. Sony are quick with updates and there are no obvious bugs. The UI is rather less "Noddy" than TW and less intrusive than Sense. The call quality is excellent too, in case you need to use it as a phone!!!
So it's down to what is important to you...
That was a awesome post very informative of different phones. I just got a zl to replace my broken HTC one xl and I love it I'm a big Sony fan they make solid products and I've never had a issue and when I have Sony has been quick to respond. It's a good choice
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It's honestly a great phone and highly underrated. Maybe it is a very polarizing phone, in that some hate it while others absolutely love it.
Well it's down to what your needs are.
For custom roms development support go for either Htc one or S4.
For sound Htc one.
For screen brilliance HTC One or possibly S4. Zl screen looks washed out and very poor viewing angles.
Camera. ZL or S4.
Memory Zl or S4.
Smoothness UI Htc one.
Design HTC one.
Speed HTC One or S4.
Notification light ZL or S4.
Premium build HTC One.
For me it has to be HTC One.
riz157 said:
Well it's down to what your needs are.
For custom roms development support go for either Htc one or S4.
For sound Htc one.
For screen brilliance HTC One or possibly S4. Zl screen looks washed out and very poor viewing angles.
Camera. ZL or S4.
Memory Zl or S4.
Smoothness UI Htc one.
Design HTC one.
Speed HTC One or S4.
Notification light ZL or S4.
Premium build HTC One.
For me it has to be HTC One.
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Had someone offer me a HTC One + $50 the other day. I just don't see the appeal.
Which HTC One has...
4G (LTE)?
notification toggles?
support to microSD card, including SDXC (I still believe Sony will really fix it )?
Sony design?
Sony UI and Sony exclusive widgets?
full integration with Sony products (PS3, Bravia, Muteki, Music Unlimited...)?
movie player with BE2?
a full 5" screen almost to the edge of the bevel of the phone?
a 2013 main camera (against the 2009-compatible 4 Mpx from HTC one?)
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Which HTC One has...
4G (LTE)?
notification toggles?
support to microSD card, including SDXC (I still believe Sony will really fix it )?
Sony design?
Sony UI and Sony exclusive widgets?
full integration with Sony products (PS3, Bravia, Muteki, Music Unlimited...)?
movie player with BE2?
a full 5" screen almost to the edge of the bevel of the phone?
a 2013 main camera (against the 2009-compatible 4 Mpx from HTC one?)
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The One has LTE and notification toggles. To the OP. I switch phones A LOT so I've had all the big boys and I have to say the ZL is a really nice phone. The One is definitely a good competitor though. As for the S4 that has been my least favorite as it feels so cheap and i hate the home button. It all depends on personal preference but as for me I'll probably keep this for the next 2 months and then get the Moto X.
I think the answer depends on your timetable and perspective:
On 8/7, the LG G2 is going to be announed, which will be the first American-carrier snapdragon 800 phone. A month later, Samsung is expected to announce the Note 3 and a Galaxy S4 advanced. By the late fall, there should even be a Nexus 5.
Battery may not be a problem for us... but we don't have notes. We have small phones with giant screens and have (relatively) low standards like a phone lasting 12 hours on a charge rather than the Note's 2 day/no charge norm.
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I like the ZL (bought 3 months ago). It has met my needs pretty well. I find that it's easier to make a mistake flashing mods and have bootloops needing reflashes... compared to my Samsung experience. I dislike its bluetooth stack... as I have to disable wifi for it to facilitate phone calls in my car. I have a slight feeling of it being the stepchild of the Sony family, as the developer of the only kernel stopped supporting the phone (he never owned it) and the custom roms are not as numerous as the Xperia Z. I had an AT&T LG Optimus G (same processor, smaller screen, wider body) directly before it and the SGS3 before that. I don't wish I had the HTC One.
I have checked almost every review available on the internet and they all wish the device had better screen and camera.
The screen has poor viewing angles and camera is gainy in low light and looses focus even in bright light.
Well I don't want to base my idea totally on reviews, since they compare it with the best.
Will you guys recommend if the Screen and camera quality are at par with a high end phone, so that I can consider buying it?
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I have checked almost every review available on the internet and they all wish the device had better screen and camera.
The screen has poor viewing angles and camera is gainy in low light and looses focus even in bright light.
Well I don't want to base my idea totally on reviews, since they compare it with the best.
Will you guys recommend if the Screen and camera quality are at par with a high end phone, so that I can consider buying it?
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Trust me, screen quality is much much better after the Update. Camera vise its really improved. If i am at a party with friends its like they want me to click pics from my ZL and day light pics are just great.
Compression Issue has been fixed in HDR. So its less noisy in low light condition with HDR.(Really Improved)
close up i would prefer my ZL.
But macros are not that great.
New update increased screen responsiveness. Frankly speaking Its getting better in every update.
But Beware, in Some phones there seems to some sort of Microphone bug which i am facing right now.(software May be as it works in everything else like recording)
Happy with Sony Xperia ZL Using from Past 5 Months.
Price has also been reduced. so its a best buy as of now.
IMO,if you need phone that trending (more dev support),go for HTC One or S4,since it also have Google Edition
but here few advantage of ZL to me:
-compact size 5' screen: -it slightly thicker than z,but more compact,it have thin bezel (fit into my pocket)
-omnibalance design: -slightly curve on the back,which support better grip,not need for cover since it make from plactic (still look premium)
-don't have to worry to put with key in pocket (still you should at least use screen protector to prevent direct scratch)
-camera : hv 13mp back n 2mp front,can recorded full hd video,have hdr,and hv dedicated shutter key with 2 press mechanism
image captured viewed beautiful on the phone with bravia engine 2 on
-notification light: at bottom,look really premium to me
-hv expandable storage (compare to HTC One)
-hv ir blaster: can control tv (compare to xperia z)
-speaker: average to me (htc one better i think) but it still able to make me up in the morning (i'm a heavy sleeper xD )
the earphone include is good enough (but can't compare it with high end earphone)
-sony software that does matter : walkman,album,movie,etc- support BE2,xloud,clearphase equalizer,which make music better
disadvantage:
-highly under rated (less dev support,however most dev in xperia z do port to zl,we still hv CM,PAC support )
-camera apps takes some times to launch (about 1-2 sec)
-screen does hv limited viewing angles but still visible in bright sunlight (with the help of UI itself that mainly white/grey colour)
Last word: xperia ZL does not hv the hype of other phone such as HTC One or S4 but it does hv enough power to run almost any apps in the play store,moreover with gr8 support from sony,i believe you could stay in stock firmware for quite sometimes,i used to unlock my bootloader and use custom rom for a week (to do this make sure you read all FAQ first if you not used to sony devices) but i'm back to stock and i'm happy with what sony offer to me
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ajhavery said:
I have checked almost every review available on the internet and they all wish the device had better screen and camera.
The screen has poor viewing angles and camera is gainy in low light and looses focus even in bright light.
Well I don't want to base my idea totally on reviews, since they compare it with the best.
Will you guys recommend if the Screen and camera quality are at par with a high end phone, so that I can consider buying it?
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i suggest you bring ur current phone and compare it with zl at retail shop,i u satisfied then grab it,if not choose others,review is useful but sometimes the company hv push updates to the phone to fix/improve the problem appear,while review stay the same,for example we recently received updates that improve touch sensitivity,ram management,camera low-light performance,etc,the latest firmware changelog can be view here
Ya I wasn't really looking for a specific yes or no. I was looking for things like: are you happy with it? Things you like about it and things you dislike. Did you find out anything after you bought it that you wish you knew before you bought it?
I really wish I could wait for the Note 3 but I need the phone basically this week. I am not a heavy user so I am pretty sure the smaller battery in this phone will be fine. My current Note 2 is amazing though. I understand that there will always be a better phone that is out or coming out soon. The Sony zl is free at Rogers right now so if I hate it that much I can sell it and get a nexus 4 or something. I don't really care about custom roms that much anymore. I used to care more because my first android phone was an LG G2x and they never updated it so I had to rely on custom roms for upgrades. As long as Sony will update it for another year or 2 ill be happy.
htc one vs sony zl
After many reviews online, I could not decide between One and ZL, so I bought both on eBay for my personal evaluation but will sell the other one later. HTC One is very good phone, high contrast screen, hi-powered speakers and responsive touch (very good if you want to watch YouTube). But, my choice is Sony ZL. There are much talks on the internet about washed screen on ZL. Do not believe it and I tell you why. For some reasons Sony designers chose to use the theme with dark grey background and white letters which is easier for eyes for long time but losing on sensation of hi-contrast. However, if you can choose a dark theme, it will change the game. Also, latest updates for ZL tend toward black background. Really, do you think that Sony, that makes TVs, laptops and professional monitors can not make phone screens? The speakers of One is better but that does not apply for the speaker when you make a phone call, which is sensational for ZL with xLoud and noise canceling enhancements. Overall the ZL looks and feels much more modern with very thin bezel while the One feels like an upgrade from old one. I thought BraviaEngine is there for commercial reasons but its really good when you watch movies and videos.
ZL is a awesome device. Its that developers don't do anything currently. There is a dev kamarush who said if he get the device he will do the kernels. But he didn't have money AFAIK. Some1 should come and help the community. Looks like we gotta donate a device to a very well know xda member: suggestion - tonyp, slim_rick, pulser_q2 etc etc
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Never really understood the issues people are having with the screen. All the reviews made it out to look like it was the most horrible screen on a phone to date. That is simply not the case. Having came from a galaxy note 1 I can honestly say the screen is on par with it. The viewing angle issue is a joke and should be experienced first hand and not from some reviewer with his head stuck up his ass. Thank god I got this phone despite what the reviews said. I'd have missed out on a great device.
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Agree that the screen (as stated in my post above) is not at all bad. Better than the XZ
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Never really understood the issues people are having with the screen. All the reviews made it out to look like it was the most horrible screen on a phone to date. That is simply not the case. Having came from a galaxy note 1 I can honestly say the screen is on par with it. The viewing angle issue is a joke and should be experienced first hand and not from some reviewer with his head stuck up his ass. Thank god I got this phone despite what the reviews said. I'd have missed out on a great device.
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I agree 100% ! I just love it.
The viewing angle is indeed deficient but I dont care. Its still bright and colorful. The FM radio and the loads of media formats it can play built in, are a great plus for me Really enjoyable device. Cant wait for an aokp 4.3 custom rom
unoo said:
Ya I wasn't really looking for a specific yes or no. I was looking for things like: are you happy with it? Things you like about it and things you dislike. Did you find out anything after you bought it that you wish you knew before you bought it?
I really wish I could wait for the Note 3 but I need the phone basically this week. I am not a heavy user so I am pretty sure the smaller battery in this phone will be fine. My current Note 2 is amazing though. I understand that there will always be a better phone that is out or coming out soon. The Sony zl is free at Rogers right now so if I hate it that much I can sell it and get a nexus 4 or something. I don't really care about custom roms that much anymore. I used to care more because my first android phone was an LG G2x and they never updated it so I had to rely on custom roms for upgrades. As long as Sony will update it for another year or 2 ill be happy.
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i would not sure if there will be update for 2 years,you said u used note 2,so r u using the s-pen heavily,i hv a friend that like to sketch cartoon with his note 2,and i think that phone really suitable for him,if you one of them,you should wait for note 3,if not,i suggest you give zl a shot,nexus 4 also a good phone but i choose zl instead of nexus 4 when i buy it because i want to hv expandable storage n i also use fm radio quite frequently,i use zl since early 3 april until today and so far i'm happy with it.what i like mainly the phone shape,different from other and the only thing i dislike is the camera takes some times to load as i mention earlier,hope sony will fix it later on
ihsan123 said:
i would not sure if there will be update for 2 years,you said u used note 2,so r u using the s-pen heavily,i hv a friend that like to sketch cartoon with his note 2,and i think that phone really suitable for him,if you one of them,you should wait for note 3,if not,i suggest you give zl a shot,nexus 4 also a good phone but i choose zl instead of nexus 4 when i buy it because i want to hv expandable storage n i also use fm radio quite frequently,i use zl since early 3 april until today and so far i'm happy with it.what i like mainly the phone shape,different from other and the only thing i dislike is the camera takes some times to load as i mention earlier,hope sony will fix it later on
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I never use the sPen. I don't care about the speakers either because I never use external speakers in a phone. I never heard anything bad about the screen but I make the assumption that sony makes TV's so that can make a decent cell phone screen haha. The more I think about it, I just want a properly functioning phone. If Sony updates it then that is great but as long as it is smooth and everything works then ill be happy. It is going to be my phone for the next 3 years so it needs to last!

[Q] Which is better to buy Z2, HTC M8 or iphone 5S?

Which is the best phone to buy among z2, HTC M8, iphone 5S? These devices cost approx 50K. Which device is best value for money in present scenario? Please help.
Also How to change the black background of app drawer to some other background in HTC M8?
Thanks
Rahul.
5s is nearly a year old. Might as well wait for the 6 if you are going the ios route. I haven't played with z2 yet, but only heard good things about it but I do not like their 6 month flagship refresh plans, which means the z3 should come around the same time as the iPhone 6. So far I'm very very impress by the m8. Really unexpected.
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The good thing with an iOS device is that apple will support it with software updates for a long time, for example my iPad 2 which is like 2-3 years old is supposed to get the new iOS 8.
I don't have experience with HTC or Sony, they might also provide software updates.
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m8 for sure !! what a question in this community...
leyow said:
The good thing with an iOS device is that apple will support it with software updates for a long time, for example my iPad 2 which is like 2-3 years old is supposed to get the new iOS 8.
I don't have experience with HTC or Sony, they might also provide software updates.
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Bitter but true the care of flagship only but also old in family which make them unique
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Obviously the iPhone 5S. If you think that it can be compared with the Z2 and M8 then you don't really understand the Android phones and as such the iPhone will probably be the best option for you.
Also, these types of threads aren't really allowed as far as I know.
chattingrahul said:
Which is the best phone to buy among z2, HTC M8, iphone 5S? These devices cost approx 50K. Which device is best value for money in present scenario? Please help.
Also How to change the black background of app drawer to some other background in HTC M8?
Thanks
Rahul.
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Play with all 3 yourself and come up with your own conclusion. When buying a car do u ask in a forum or go for a test drive? At the end of the day ur the one using the phone, not me.
Coming to an M8 thread asking is kind of silly, duh the M8 since we all have one, lol!
Best value? That's a tough one. If buying on contract they all cost the same. IPhone will have an upgrade in a few months so no use buying almost a year old device. Just gotta see which u like better to use on a daily basis for urself.
Are you joking?!
The iPhone 5S is clearly out, it's garbage.
The Xperia Z2 is also garbage, but since many of you have not tried it out I will tell you why it is so bad:
1. The battery is huge. However, the screen is inefficient, it uses a lot of power and it drains that battery faster than an S5 or M8.
2. The colors of the screen are not good and the screen feels extremely cheap and plastic, it doesn't feel like glass as on the S5 or M8 or G2 or S4.
3. The sound in the headphones is terrible, not even close to the M8, maybe comparable to the S4, a little worse than the S5. Even worse than on the crApple.
4. The build quality of the phone is not that good. It catches fingerprints like hell... and they don't look like fingerprints, they look like you picked your nose and then got that stuck on your screen in the form of a fingerprint.
They say the phone is made out of glass, however when you touch it, it doesn;t feel hot or cold as glass would. Also glass shouldnt scratch so easily. So I'm guessing it's actually plexiglass not real glass or resin. It doesn't look that great after you have it for a while (the back of the phone, cause the front looks bad from the first glance).
5. The 3 GB of RAM make NO difference at all compared to the S5, M8, G2 or S4. No difference in operation at all.
6. THE CAMERA IS A TRAIN WRECK. In perfect lighting it is ok, but in even slight less than perfect lighting, it is filled with noise/grains. At dawn or early morning the grains are so bad they are actually red.
The camera on the Z2 is WAY WORSE than the M8, S5, S4, G2 even HTC m7. Even worse than on the 5S. Not to mention on Nokia.
It's a shame that all the pretend experts test the camera in good lighting... you can't believe how bad it is in less than perfect conditions.
7. Judging by how bad it is, the phone is way overpriced compared to the S4 or G2. Not even close. It shouldn't cost more than 450 dollars. You can get way better chinese phones for that money.
8. This is my personal opinion, but that massive block of black looks horrible.
WHY ARE PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT THE Z2? They are exactly like the iPhone snobs who are a little smart and realize the iphone isn't good. So they try to be different and interesting by getting the Sony. Some are so blind to compare spec numbers and think Sony is amazing without even trying different phones to see the difference.
For the black thing, just use a launcher... Go Launcher is the best I think. I use Next Launcher, but that.s not free.. However, it's just 2 dollars or something.
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WHY ARE PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT THE Z2?
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because its waterproof and not a samsung
Samsung is water resistant too.
And Japan is a way more racist and foreigner unfriendly country than South Korea. So if we wanna choose like that, Samsung is way better than Sony.
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