I wasn't sure whether to post this on the Q&A or in Accessories considering its a topic regarding the charger. If it doesn't belong here then (Mods) please move it.
Anyways, it says on the charger that it outputs 1200mAh to the phone and yet in the CurrentWidget it reads the current output in the range of 30~280mAh but not more than that, this is also backed up by the fact that its taking very long to charge the phone, upto 5hours to complete a charge to 100%. This was not an issue before as it normally use to take apprx 2hours to charge. I've tested a Samsung Galaxy S3 charger, using the Nexus stock cable, which in comparison outputted around 800~1000mAh which seems close to its specs. Any idea if its time to replace the charger or is this normal for you? I've only had the phone for about 2months now.
bushako said:
I wasn't sure whether to post this on the Q&A or in Accessories considering its a topic regarding the charger. If it doesn't belong here then (Mods) please move it.
Anyways, it says on the charger that it outputs 1200mAh to the phone and yet in the CurrentWidget it reads the current output in the range of 30~280mAh but not more than that, this is also backed up by the fact that its taking very long to charge the phone, upto 5hours to complete a charge to 100%. This was not an issue before as it normally use to take apprx 2hours to charge. I've tested a Samsung Galaxy S3 charger, using the Nexus stock cable, which in comparison outputted around 800~1000mAh which seems close to its specs. Any idea if its time to replace the charger or is this normal for you? I've only had the phone for about 2months now.
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Replace it, the stock gives me about 800-1000mAh as well. The Nexus 7 charger gives me the same. Don't know if it's the wire or not, but sounds like your charger is starting to crap out.
bushako said:
I wasn't sure whether to post this on the Q&A or in Accessories considering its a topic regarding the charger. If it doesn't belong here then (Mods) please move it.
Anyways, it says on the charger that it outputs 1200mAh to the phone and yet in the CurrentWidget it reads the current output in the range of 30~280mAh but not more than that, this is also backed up by the fact that its taking very long to charge the phone, upto 5hours to complete a charge to 100%. This was not an issue before as it normally use to take apprx 2hours to charge. I've tested a Samsung Galaxy S3 charger, using the Nexus stock cable, which in comparison outputted around 800~1000mAh which seems close to its specs. Any idea if its time to replace the charger or is this normal for you? I've only had the phone for about 2months now.
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My phone charges for about 1,5 hours. Are you charging via USB?
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My phone charges for about 1,5 hours. Are you charging via USB?
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No im using the adaptor that came with the phone.
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Replace it, the stock gives me about 800-1000mAh as well. The Nexus 7 charger gives me the same. Don't know if it's the wire or not, but sounds like your charger is starting to crap out.
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But that really sucks coz its not even that old. What a way for LG to cut corners with low quality charger. This never happened with me before.
Is the phone being used at all during charging?
And was the measured output consistently that low?
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Native89 said:
Is the phone being used at all during charging?
And was the measured output consistently that low?
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I used it briefly while charging with only Battery Monitor Widget open to monitor the situation. Then I put it to sleep and let it charge. The current was consistently within the low range. I've checked battery health, capacity and voltage and its in good working capacity.
Either way there's not much I can do with a charger other than to replace it. Any suggestions?
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Seriously who thought it would be OK to sell a phone that takes nearly 6 hours to charge on USB and nearly 3 on the wall?
Its not even like it gets to 80% after an hour then trickles.
Rant over.
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Seriously who thought it would be OK to sell a phone that takes nearly 6 hours to charge on USB and nearly 3 on the wall?
Its not even like it gets to 80% after an hour then trickles.
Rant over.
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its a big battery.....
new?
only the first several cycles then it would be faster
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Had mine from day one, still takes ages to charge, my LG o2x took an hour from dead
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Hello,
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its a big battery.....
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i would have said it's a small charger ...
It is a 1A charger, but Battery Widget Pro evaluates charge at 650 mA ( = 0.65 A ) for me.
Charging a 1800 mAh Li-Ion at 1.8 A will last one hour.
Charging a 1800 mAh Li-Ion at 0.6 A ( 1.8 / 3 ) will last 3 hours.
It is just as simple as this for Li-Ion and Li-Po batteries.
I can even say that your USB charge at approximately 300 mA even not knowing your specs ...
I think we can use a 2A charger without destroying the battery,
but i think HTC deliberately "lowered" the charge rate ...
Maybe someone here already tested a 2A charger and see a difference ?
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Any technical backing to that statement or is it bro-science?
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Hahahahahahhaa bro-science, i laught soo much with this!!!
---About thw thread---
My phone takes about 3hours, i dont care too much because i put it to charge when i go to sleep.
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Seriously who thought it would be OK to sell a phone that takes nearly 6 hours to charge on USB and nearly 3 on the wall?
Its not even like it gets to 80% after an hour then trickles.
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are you using the usb cable that came with HOX ?
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are you using the usb cable that came with HOX ?
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Yes, and what would that have to do with anything?
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Yes, and what would that have to do with anything?
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because i have some other usb cables, that are slower charging
dont ask me why.... dont know.. but with some usb cables are very slow
So glad i'm not the only one
Mine takes forever to charge too
DanRZ;26479283
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Phone is limited to 1a for charging so using a 2a won't make a difference.
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My galaxy nexus, with it's 1750 Mah battery, charges from 0 to 100% in 1h and a half.
Get a charger with more amps yo.
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Would you rather have it charged more quickly (like 1h or 1.5h) generating more heat and thus decreasing your battery life on phone which doesn't sport a removable battery?
I'm glad it's not that fast, the battery will last longer this way. If you don't care about that, get a "faster" charger and destroy your battery more quickly than the rest of use
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Phone is limited to 1a for charging so using a 2a won't make a difference.
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Yes, i'm sure of that limitation too, but why does it charge in only 3 hours.
Looks like it is limited to 0.6A or my charger only charge at 0.6A
and doesn't have a good efficiency.
The two main possibilities are a bad battery which takes more time to charge
or a low charge rate from the charger.
While i suppose my battery is new and in good shape, it can be only due to charger or "software" limitation.
So for me the limitation is more like 600 mA and not 1A ...
Heard it all now... battery charge though put it on charge while you sleep (PROBLEM SOLVED)
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Heard it all now... battery charge though put it on charge while you sleep (PROBLEM SOLVED)
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Perhaps your not a heavy power user in a corporate environment who needs to charge the phone a decent amount in the airport, during the day, and so forth. HTC created a bigger problem by not allowing you to replace the battery.
Not hating, just saying, bro.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_polymer_battery
Learn about batteries before complaining about a phone you bought using a battery you don't understand. Lipo is not a Duracell and it needs to be used and charged properly.
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Yes, i'm sure of that limitation too, but why does it charge in only 3 hours.
Looks like it is limited to 0.6A or my charger only charge at 0.6A
and doesn't have a good efficiency.
The two main possibilities are a bad battery which takes more time to charge
or a low charge rate from the charger.
While i suppose my battery is new and in good shape, it can be only due to charger or "software" limitation.
So for me the limitation is more like 600 mA and not 1A ...
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Seems more like you have a defective charger, or at least not one rated at 1A. Try a different one?
Even with a 2A charger I have, phone does take a dreadfully long time to charge. My Galaxy Nexus with the extended battery charges to full in about 1/3 the time.
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Heard it all now... battery charge though put it on charge while you sleep (PROBLEM SOLVED)
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Problem solved for you, who apparently doesn't use his phone as much as others, but not for those of us with a lot of screen on time during the day. LOL.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_polymer_battery
Learn about batteries before complaining about a phone you bought using a battery you don't understand. Lipo is not a Duracell and it needs to be used and charged properly.
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Has nothing to do with how slow the HOX charges. The iPhone, blackberry, Macbooks, hell my old T61p ThinkPad all charge faster.
So i recently busted my default charger and started using one i bought, its not samsung brand, but lately i've been noticing that my battery dies quicker, does this seem look like normal battery life or is it possible that having a different type of charger is screwing with my battery? All i use my phone for is texting/phone calls. Thanks in advance
What are the power output on the charger? It seems that it drops really fast even during standby. The charger that came with the nexus is rated at 5v @ 1a.
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So i recently busted my default charger and started using one i bought, its not samsung brand, but lately i've been noticing that my battery dies quicker, does this seem look like normal battery life or is it possible that having a different type of charger is screwing with my battery? All i use my phone for is texting/phone calls. Thanks in advance
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Have you checked BetterBatteryStats? Looks like that phone is almost always awake, except during one period where the battery had less of a downslope. Also, it looks like even during the downslopes your phone is charging. Something doesn't seem right here, and I doubt it's your charger. It looks more like some application or other software is eating your battery for breakfast.
Yeah i also forgot to say, sometimes i'd look at my phone while in out and it would randomly say its charging. When its obviously not. The brand of the charger is called "On the go", no idea what kind of charge it delivers.
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Yeah i also forgot to say, sometimes i'd look at my phone while in out and it would randomly say its charging. When its obviously not. The brand of the charger is called "On the go", no idea what kind of charge it delivers.
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Are you on stock or have you tried flashing back to stock? If the problem continues even with a clean install of the stock software, it seems like the USB charging board might be messed up and may need replacing.
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What are the power output on the charger? It seems that it drops really fast even during standby. The charger that came with the nexus is rated at 5v @ 1a.
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I've always wondered about this too. I seem to have a range of chargers that are micro USB that are 5v but < 1a. Is it safe to use these or not?
Yes i flashed it and am on a rooted version.
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If the problem continues even with a clean install of the stock software, it seems like the USB charging board might be messed up and may need replacing.
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^^^^^^^
Alright i'll look into that, thanks guys
I'm Curious About This Too
I've been using the power block from my old Motorola OG Droid, with an output of 5.1V - 850mA, along with the usb cable that came with my old Palm Pre Plus (its nearly 52" long, almost 4 1/2ft!) andi have no idea what that's rated for. I seem to be doing fine as far as I can tell. It charges quickly on AC, nothing overheats.
But what are the consequences of using a power source with this kind of difference, if any? Consequences to using a power source with a greater difference?
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I've been using the power block from my old Motorola OG Droid, with an output of 5.1V - 850mA, along with the usb cable that came with my old Palm Pre Plus (its nearly 52" long, almost 4 1/2ft!) andi have no idea what that's rated for. I seem to be doing fine as far as I can tell. It charges quickly on AC, nothing overheats.
But what are the consequences of using a power source with this kind of difference, if any? Consequences to using a power source with a greater difference?
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Not saying it works but my friends phone was doing same phone kept saying it was still charging and screen wouldn't sleep , are u using a live wallpaper ? If u are try getting something non live and see if that helps . His phone since has stopped showing the charging icon and screen wake has reduced dramatically
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I've always wondered about this too. I seem to have a range of chargers that are micro USB that are 5v but < 1a. Is it safe to use these or not?
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Yes, the "a" (amperage) doesn't matter. It's just telling you how fast it can charge your phone, higher the amperage is, the faster it'll charge.
You can also determine how many watts the charger will consume by multiplying the Voltage by Amps. So if your charger was rated at 5v @ 1.5a, it will use about 7.5 watts. If it's less than 1a, like .6a, just put a decimal before the number.
I upgraded to Jelly Bean the day before yesterday. But upgrading I've found that my charging time gone up quiet a bit. Its taking almost 30-40% more time to charge than it used to do earlier on ICS (stock). I'm running stock Jelly Bean on my Gnex. Is someone else also having this issue?
For me, approximatively 2-3 hours for full charging.
I think its more faster than ICS
I think I'll try different chargers to check the issue..
My GN is full in just 1 hour.
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My GN is full in just 1 hour.
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That is what I also used to get before moving to 4.1.1
Earlier my phone used to get warmer while charging and now is completely cold.
Is there any solution or reason for the slow charging?
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For me, approximatively 2-3 hours for full charging.
I think its more faster than ICS
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I am in this time frame
Hm... I'm no expert at this, but maybe JB slowed down the charging amount so GNex doesn't get hot when charging. I found my GNex to charge a bit longer after the update too. But now when I'm using my GNex, it doesn't get as hot as 4.0.x
Takes a couple hours. But completely dependent on the charger and cable. Long cables have more line-loss, and chargers vary from 500mA to 2.1A in output.
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Takes a couple hours. But completely dependent on the charger and cable. Long cables have more line-loss, and chargers vary from 500mA to 2.1A in output.
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I use the stock Samsung charger so
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3 hours using fast charge and 4 hours without fast charge.
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I use the stock Samsung charger so
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Stock charger runs at 1 amp. If you are using a custom kernel it may or may not support the full charging current that the phone supports.
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Takes a couple hours. But completely dependent on the charger and cable. Long cables have more line-loss, and chargers vary from 500mA to 2.1A in output.
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LOL what? Longer cables in NO WAY effect charging time.
LOL... that's a good one. Also, the Galaxy Nexus charger is rated at 1 amp. You should not use a charger OVER 1 amp or you will damage the phone's charging circuit.
And I used to thought the higher Amperage doesn't affect the battery at all. Even if the 'amp' is high,the device will pull only that much of 'amp' that it needs. Rather we should ensure that voltage should not be higher than the rated one for the device.
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Hm... I'm no expert at this, but maybe JB slowed down the charging amount so GNex doesn't get hot when charging. I found my GNex to charge a bit longer after the update too. But now when I'm using my GNex, it doesn't get as hot as 4.0.x
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That is quiet possible.
Mine takes like 1hour and a half from nothing to a 100%
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LOL what? Longer cables in NO WAY effect charging time.
LOL... that's a good one. Also, the Galaxy Nexus charger is rated at 1 amp. You should not use a charger OVER 1 amp or you will damage the phone's charging circuit.
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A longer and/or thinner cable does have more resistance and so loses a bit of its power (V*A) over the run as waste heat. If it is already at capacity, that loss would slow charging a little bit compared to a shorter cable. If not, then its just wasted energy for heating the cable.
To your second point, any 5volt charger capable of delivering over 1 amp at 5V ( clean DC ) will safely charge a GNexus. Any unnecessary amperage capacity will just not be used. Charger will run cooler.
You could use a 6V auto battery charger with LOTS of amp capacity if it were 5V instead of 6V, and if it were clean DC, but it is not.
Hello
My note 2 stock charger got damaged & untill i bring a new one, can i use the note 1 charger? Or it will damage the battery some how?
I want a reasonable answer not like "yes u can"
Thanks for your cooperation
Edit : i googled for an answer but unfortunately i couldn't find any with my search keys...
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I dont have a note 1 and a note 1 charger so I cant really answer.
But i advise you to compare whats written on both chargers. Volt, power all that stuff. If its the same i dont see a problem.
Maybe its not the best advice but I used to charge my LG p990 with a N97 charger and its still fine.
Theres one thing with my note 2 charger.
When I charge it theres a little noise that pisses me off its like ultrasound or something coming from the charger connected on the wall. I usually notice the noise wheb the phone is at 65%.
Charger dead ?
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Same here before i damage the charger i heared the noise accidently
The note1 charger output is 5V , 1Am
Can u compare it with yours ?
Thank you btw
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Youre welcome. Can you see it well ?
The app reduces the size lol
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Yea thanks its 2Am unlike the note 1 charger which is 1Am
Maybe it will take double time to charge
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If you think it wont harm your phone go for it. I cant tell I'm not an electrician or have the best knowledge in this
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You can use it but it well charge slowly. So the usual 2.5 hours to charge week become 4 to 5 hours.
Both chargers are micro usb and is required for them (as a standard) to be 5 volts. So using them to charge ur GN2 is ok.
The current really doesn't matter. It only dictates how fast its gonna be charging your phone. Since the usual GN2 charger uses 2 amps, using the 1 amp GN1 charger would just make your phone charge longer. Anything above 2 amps may be harmful and untested.
I believe they made the GN2 charger 2 amps because it has to make the charging time shorter to compensate for the bigger battery.
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Yea thanks its 2Am unlike the note 1 charger which is 1Am
Maybe it will take double time to charge
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Yup, if those numbers are true then it will take twice as long to charge a note 2 using the note 1 charger. The output voltage must be the same, otherwise bad things may happen. I remember reading somewhere the faster the charging, the quicker the battery life degrades, so the Note 1 charger may actually be better, but I have read so many contradicting articles about Li-Ion Batteries that I don't know what to believe. In any case, you can try. In theory, it's safe, and if really needs a stronger charge, it will either display a message that it needs a different charger or it simply won't charge. It won't blow up or break down, but you shouldn't leave it connected for hours either if you see it doesn't charge.
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Yup, if those numbers are true then it will take twice as long to charge a note 2 using the note 1 charger. The output voltage must be the same, otherwise bad things may happen. I remember reading somewhere the faster the charging, the quicker the battery life degrades, so the Note 1 charger may actually be better, but I have read so many contradicting articles about Li-Ion Batteries that I don't know what to believe. In any case, you can try. In theory, it's safe, and if really needs a stronger charge, it will either display a message that it needs a different charger or it simply won't charge. It won't blow up or break down, but you shouldn't leave it connected for hours either if you see it doesn't charge.
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Thanks for your respond
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Hi pals,
I'm looking for a fast charger (default original one is not fast) for 3xl.
Actually how to select fast charger? What is the measure amps or watts?
And can xl can stand up to any fast charger or is it like it is only safe to use upto certain amps or so?
Thanks in advance
are you saying the OEM charger isn't fast? that'll put out as much as the pixel can handle, so no aftermarket charger will be any better. if you're just looking for a replacement, or maybe a multiport I've had very good luck with choetech products over the years. there are also the new gan chargers, which put out a ton of power from a small brick. they won't charge the pixel any faster, but if you have something like a laptop they can help
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are you saying the OEM charger isn't fast? that'll put out as much as the pixel can handle, so no aftermarket charger will be any better. if you're just looking for a replacement, or maybe a multiport I've had very good luck with choetech products over the years. there are also the new gan chargers, which put out a ton of power from a small brick. they won't charge the pixel any faster, but if you have something like a laptop they can help
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Yeah the default isn't great in fast charging especially because I migrated from OnePlus 6.
In India there are quite a many fast chargers. I stay in India. Can you please link me choetech product. Will see if it is available in India.
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Yeah the default isn't great in fast charging especially because I migrated from OnePlus 6.
In India there are quite a many fast chargers. I stay in India. Can you please link me choetech product. Will see if it is available in India.
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you won't find anything faster than the OEM charger. it maxes out the pixels charging capacity
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you won't find anything faster than the OEM charger. it maxes out the pixels charging capacity
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That's right, go OEM charger
OEM charger it's fast charger isn't? maybe yours it’s s faulty? or not the original or something like that? There is some apps that can tell you how fast your phone it's charging, that might help
I like this charger due to its small size, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PT7XMP9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Anker 30W PIQ 3.0 & GaN Tech Power Delivery USB C Charger
Hi guys just to let you know i get much faster charging with s20+ charger then with stock one.
Look at screenshot
CROrION said:
Hi guys just to let you know i get much faster charging with s20+ charger then with stock one.
Look at screenshot
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Just so you know from those screenshots the s20 charger is charging at a higher rate because the battery life is at a lower charge (28% vs 50% from the one using the stock picture). Have you actually timed a charge from each one from start to finish? The lower the battery is the faster it will charge. There was an article on here or maybe reddit about someone who researched the behavior of fast charge. I believe 40 or 50% is roughly where it starts cutting back on the charge rate.
adaptor S20 have dynamic tech, and by default pixel 3XL have 18W but the issue from some tech reviewer have hardware same like samsung S20 (25W)
so if you using adaptor s20 is better from original...
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Just so you know from those screenshots the s20 charger is charging at a higher rate because the battery life is at a lower charge (28% vs 50% from the one using the stock picture). Have you actually timed a charge from each one from start to finish? The lower the battery is the faster it will charge. There was an article on here or maybe reddit about someone who researched the behavior of fast charge. I believe 40 or 50% is roughly where it starts cutting back on the charge rate.
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Hi guys just to let you know i get much faster charging with s20+ charger then with stock one.
Look at screenshot
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i think you wrong moment compare this adaptor... S20+ using when 28% batery and standar adaptor when 52% so its diferent moment... try same when 28% s20+ dan original... you can real the result sir...
KUSOsan said:
Just so you know from those screenshots the s20 charger is charging at a higher rate because the battery life is at a lower charge (28% vs 50% from the one using the stock picture). Have you actually timed a charge from each one from start to finish? The lower the battery is the faster it will charge. There was an article on here or maybe reddit about someone who researched the behavior of fast charge. I believe 40 or 50% is roughly where it starts cutting back on the charge ra
KUSOsan said:
Just so you know from those screenshots the s20 charger is charging at a higher rate because the battery life is at a lower charge (28% vs 50% from the one using the stock picture). Have you actually timed a charge from each one from start to finish? The lower the battery is the faster it will charge. There was an article on here or maybe reddit about someone who researched the behavior of fast charge. I believe 40 or 50% is roughly where it starts cutting back on the charge rate.
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I have pixel 3 XL, I tried multiple chargers (Ambrane 20w , 70w GaN charger , 18watt iPhone charger ,MI 22w powerbank ) at 28 % max speed I use to get around 2800mA .
Though he is comparing at different battery levels but more than 3400 mA is actually a great charging speed at 28%.
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CROrION said:
Hi guys just to let you know i get much faster charging with s20+ charger then with stock one.
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Thank you brother I was looking for this only
I use stock. However a colleague praised a 25w above. There is this option..
https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Mini-Charger-Cable-Black/dp/B09135GHY9/ref=sr_1_24?crid=2MO29469OAWTH&keywords=ugreen+20w+usb+c+charger&qid=1654045974&sprefix=ugreen+20%2Caps%2C220&sr=8-24