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[psa] leaving recovery on too long results in hard brick

THIS HAS BEEN VERIFIED BY ME, AND JOKERSAX HAS TOLD ME ABOUT TWO OTHER DEVS WHO HAVE HAD SIMILAR RESULTS
This is a public service announcement saying that if you leave recovery (I left TWRP on overnight while restoring a nandroid) on too long, under certain circumstances not yet completely determined may lead your device to a hard brick. This has happened to 3 people so far, and want to avoid anymore issues with this.​
For more details on what happened I was flashing a V5 test build of my rom im working on adding aroma too where I got another syntax error to fix. It was about 11:30 at night, so I just started restoring from a nandroid, threw the phone upside down, and knocked out. When I woke up the next morning I checked the device and it was off in recharge mode- nothing too big. I then tried to boot and it ended up flashing the notification light and softkeys repeatedly, and did nothing else. I was able to get it into download mode, but LGNPST kept timing out. Then after trying several times with it timing out it wouldnt get into download mode. I then tried to just get anything to light up, and left it on the charger for several hours, and then gave up that my device was hard bricked. No data remained. I had to go to best buy and wait about an hour and a half for them to get me a new device. I hope everyone can avoid this happening to their device. It is a slow, but sure death reported by a few people.​

And to think I left my phone in recovery. for about 2 hours =x scared to even boot to recovery now
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Veritass said:
And to think I left my phone in recovery. for about 2 hours =x scared to even boot to recovery now
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If youre phone boots it will be fine. I left it for about 8 hours or so.

You should make this a sticky

Ya i was taking my time with the aroma installer and noticed my phone heat up real quick! Had to turn my phone off after the rom booted. Close call!
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This must be what happened to my first LGOG, I feel asleep running a backup. When I woke up it wouldn't boot. Thank goodness for Geek Squad coverage.

Does anyone know if this problem exists with clockwork too? I already fried a phone just making a simple backup using TWRP.
I'm using CWM now and made a backup and flashed a rom and my phone survived.
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toprock23 said:
Ya i was taking my time with the aroma installer and noticed my phone heat up real quick! Had to turn my phone off after the rom booted. Close call!
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Every time I use aroma my phone gets scorching hot. If I recall my GS3 did the same thing with aroma.
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_Epic said:
Every time I use aroma my phone gets scorching hot. If I recall my GS3 did the same thing with aroma.
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Any time I boot to recovery my phone heats up =p
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My phone also gets really got while in recovery mine also overheated exactly like the OP but mine came back to life I left it alone for a few hours then put it on the charger and finally got into download mode then recovery and restore. We definitely need to do something like timeout where after 10 minute the phone shuts off or something. Not sure it is possible but I like ranting lol
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We need to fix recovery
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Thanks for the info! I used to leave backups running overnight all the time with my previous devices. Good thing I haven't with this one.
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Only thing that could heat up the phone like that is the cpu core running at max.or spiking to max very very rapidly. Basically the soc with all the chipsests are not going into a sleep mode. I can see why all the data was gone and or damaged. I've seen something like this with other electronics.
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I have not left recovery on long enough to experience noticeable overheating myself. I wish I knew how to fix the recovery myself though. Also as for making this a sticky (I read half the posts through email, and might have got this thread mixed up) mods are kinda inactive, so it will be hard for us to do.

evodev said:
I have not left recovery on long enough to experience noticeable overheating myself. I wish I knew how to fix the recovery myself though. Also as for making this a sticky (I read half the posts through email, and might have got this thread mixed up) mods are kinda inactive, so it will be hard for us to do.
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If I am in recovery for 5 seconds, my device heats up really bad. But it is the only time it heats up.

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If I am in recovery for 5 seconds, my device heats up really bad. But it is the only time it heats up.
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I have heat up while playing games or streaming music, or leaving it at the lockscreen too long. Maybe undervolting it can fix it? IDR if joker's test kernel added it or not.

Happened to me to. But mine was adb push file to sdcard and lost power due to usb low charge and recovery turning phone into a glass top stove
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Mine overheats after playing Beach Buggy Blitz for five minutes, in recovery. Too often really :/

These are reasons I always finish what I'm working on before I sleep! It drives my girlfriend nuts ha ha. But yes, the phone does get hot rapidly in recovery hotter than I have ever gotten it running any game or app
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well TWRP 4.2 is out now, maybe itll fix our little problem.

Battery draining fast

My T-Mobile note 2 battery is draining extremely fast its NOT rooted. So I don't understand why isn't draining so fast someone please help. And if anyone is having this same problem how did you fix it without getting a replacement device.
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See if anything in the Better Battery Stats thread will help you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809&nocache=1
That will at least allow you to see what's doing it.

I will thanks
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Check the battery stats for "gpsd". Mine started draining after updating to 4.1.2. It appears (for me at least) that the Samsung "find-your-phone-if someone-steels-it" was behaving badly.
If this is the case for you. Switch the service/function of and notify Samsung.

How many hours do you get when your battery is draining fast?

My stock phone started to drain fast as well. Within 6 hours unplugged I see myself having only 60 percent remaining with barely an hour screen on time. I tried to narrow it down to a rogue app but it seems the OTA was more plausable and easier to blame lol
Now back to using Jedi again.
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Dmwitz said:
the Samsung "find-your-phone-if someone-steels-it" was behaving badly.
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What app is that? I was not aware of that feature.

slybarman said:
What app is that? I was not aware of that feature.
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It's called DIVE and does more than just recover lost phones, it is a management suite, not that I've spent a lot of time on it so far.
http://www.samsungdive.com/about/forwardSiteGuide.do#
http://www.samsungdive.com/DiveMain.do

tabashir said:
It's called DIVE and does more than just recover lost phones, it is a management suite, not that I've spent a lot of time on it so far.
http://www.samsungdive.com/about/forwardSiteGuide.do#
http://www.samsungdive.com/DiveMain.do
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Are you sure Dive and the remote control functions are supported on our phone?

My phone isn't rooted. And Im new too this so I'm a little bit lost on what to do. Before that T-Mobile update I would get 24hrs+ but I'm lucky enough too get 8hrs and that's without heavy use
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tabashir said:
It's called DIVE and does more than just recover lost phones, it is a management suite, not that I've spent a lot of time on it so far.
http://www.samsungdive.com/about/forwardSiteGuide.do#
http://www.samsungdive.com/DiveMain.do
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That's only for international version like N7100... US don't get that feature on T889.
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zen0s said:
That's only for international version like N7100... US don't get that feature on T889.
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Thats what I thought.
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Same here. Hope it can get fixed soon
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Because you have Some 'crap ware app like faabook runni ng
its notorious for drain.
See what ywve got running In the background and that where the answer will be
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janjannsen99 said:
Because you have Some 'crap ware app like faabook runni ng
its notorious for drain.
See what ywve got running In the background and that where the answer will be
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That's not it ever since this multiwindow update battery life has diminished. I can't figure it out. Like right now all I did is a little bit of fb twitter Tapatalk gps music and thats it and its at 38% unplugged since 6 hrs and on screen time is 2 hrs.
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I turned off the multi window under settings cause I rarely use it and ive been unplugged for 9 hrs and have 56% left I also am syncing manually. Hopefully this will help
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Yea multi view does seem to contribute to see extra drain. But as I see it my phone lasts all day no matter what I do to it. I've never EVER had to say...dang where's my charger. Not with this phone. It's perfect for me . I use it HEAVILY
I trade commodities so I'm constantly on the Internet and syncing prices all day long. I don't use wifi. Ever
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janjannsen99 said:
Yea multi view does seem to contribute to see extra drain. But as I see it my phone lasts all day no matter what I do to it. I've never EVER had to say...dang where's my charger. Not with this phone. It's perfect for me . I use it HEAVILY
I trade commodities so I'm constantly on the Internet and syncing prices all day long. I don't use wifi. Ever
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I don't use mult window just to sgow off to my friends I ise my phone moderately and can get 8 hrs max 4, 5, or 6 with heavy use r u stock?
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So tired of this.

How many of you were trying to use your rooted stock galaxy s3, and when you were using it, it froze, resulting in a battery pull? I am sick of this. Either after writing a long post, message, or status and it freezes and losing it all, or just now, when I was downloading the MOAR ROM (800 mb), it took an hour and thirty mins, and then at 94% it froze. I returned a galaxy s3 STOCK NOT ROOTED for this same problem, and got another and it still does it. How many of you have the same problem? This is one of the few reasons I wish I havent gotten this phone. Do not get me wrong, I love this phone and all its features, but there are these few tiny things that make me really mad that is does it, that makes me regret it too.
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I had this issue.
Download Fast Force Close from the market.
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ubigred said:
I had this issue.
Download Fast Force Close from the market.
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Oh okay. Thank you. I just find it very annoying. Wanted to see if other people had problems like this.
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I can say I'm not experiencing this. Rock solid, could be the Rom you're on, or kernel. Any oc or uv?
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Can't say I ever had this problem...

socos25 said:
I can say I'm not experiencing this. Rock solid, could be the Rom you're on, or kernel. Any oc or uv?
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First phone it happened on stock rom rooted/not rooted (happened on both) and it happens on stock rom rooted on 2nd phone. I dont mess with kernals or CPU or Overclocking/ anythinf like that because i am scared of breaking my phone. So it has been bone stock other than root
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Can't say I ever had this problem...
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Neither have I, I was having overheating issues but found a way around it. Hope a solution comes your way. This does remind of the bad chip issues the orig tmobile galaxys were having tho
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Tell us the full story. It's your phone refurb?
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My phone froze once. I've had it for 9 months. I'd start looking at things like a badly written app or an issue with the SD card if I were you. BTW, you should be able to force a reboot by just holding the power button for 10 seconds.

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Tell us the full story. It's your phone refurb?
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First phone was brand new, this one is refurbished.
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Jataadroid said:
Neither have I, I was having overheating issues but found a way around it. Hope a solution comes your way. This does remind of the bad chip issues the orig tmobile galaxys were having tho
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My first one over heated bad. Take it to sprint and they can fix it. Helped me. It was my first big smartphone and I thought it was normal.
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Have never once had this problem on my GS3. Day one purchase too. Sorry to hear that.
I've had freezes due to custom kernel overclocking and undervolt testing, but once I found the right settings, I haven't had a single freeze...and it's been months.
Phone has ran its longest at 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours.

Never had this problem. Rooted since 2nd week in July.

No issues here either; rooted and blue-tified not long after getting it 6/21.

My first phone I had was a dud. The screen would flicker and freeze up. The only way it would fix itself was a battery pull. But it would start doing the same thing within a few minutes. I got my replacement and haven't had problems since. Maybe it's possible you got another dud? There worse thing that can happen is you get another bad phone, or you get a good one. If you'd get another bad one you could just see if they'll let you upgrade to a new phone early. Have a buddy who just that same thing, not with a s3 though.
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Overheating means one of two things.
1. You phone is in an extremely marginal signal location and keeps switching between cells. Lots of radio activity at full power will heat up the phone.
2. An app is using lots of CPU power and/or data and may be "running away".
You should be able to get some clues on this by looking at battery stats to see what's using the most power.

freeza said:
Have never once had this problem on my GS3. Day one purchase too. Sorry to hear that.
I've had freezes due to custom kernel overclocking and undervolt testing, but once I found the right settings, I haven't had a single freeze...and it's been months.
Phone has ran its longest at 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours.
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Never had this problem. Rooted since 2nd week in July.
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No issues here either; rooted and blue-tified not long after getting it 6/21.
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godbilla said:
My first phone I had was a dud. The screen would flicker and freeze up. The only way it would fix itself was a battery pull. But it would start doing the same thing within a few minutes. I got my replacement and haven't had problems since. Maybe it's possible you got another dud? There worse thing that can happen is you get another bad phone, or you get a good one. If you'd get another bad one you could just see if they'll let you upgrade to a new phone early. Have a buddy who just that same thing, not with a s3 though.
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I always thought it was something I did, but I took my first one in and it froze and heated up, now this one just freezes. I don't wanna take the 2nd one in because that is just extra work for sprint and I can deal with it. If my computer worked or I could download the moar rom (or any for that matter) without it freezing or restarting the download I wouldn't have this problem. Oh well. Nothing I can't deal with. Heck, it is a great phone.!
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Whiplashh said:
How many of you were trying to use your rooted stock galaxy s3, and when you were using it, it froze, resulting in a battery pull? I am sick of this. Either after writing a long post, message, or status and it freezes and losing it all, or just now, when I was downloading the MOAR ROM (800 mb), it took an hour and thirty mins, and then at 94% it froze. I returned a galaxy s3 STOCK NOT ROOTED for this same problem, and got another and it still does it. How many of you have the same problem? This is one of the few reasons I wish I havent gotten this phone. Do not get me wrong, I love this phone and all its features, but there are these few tiny things that make me really mad that is does it, that makes me regret it too.
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Must be some rogue app you install consistently.

nabbed said:
Must be some rogue app you install consistently.
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I wonder what it could be though? I mean all I have are top notch apps that are like in the top 100 on play store. I don't download from play store without reading reviews.
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Whiplashh said:
I wonder what it could be though? I mean all I have are top notch apps that are like in the top 100 on play store. I don't download from play store without reading reviews.
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Hard to tell. Perhaps someone here knows a diagnostic to tell which app freezes the phone.
But it's most likely something that runs as a service (under Settings/Apps/Running), probably something you yourself installed. I'd start there first. If you have a quick and reliable way to determine if it will lock up (like running some stress test, maybe a benchmark), perhaps you could "freeze" some of those apps in Titanium Backup and find out which app is responsible.

Extended battery issues

Okay, I have been getting the sod on my gnex for a long time. Anytime I would launch an app after about 15 seconds into it my phone would freeze and go into sod. I flashed back to stock and sprint replaced my gnex so when I got it I kept it unrooted for a while to see if it was because I was rooted. Same thing happened while I was unrooted. I thought to myself let me use the stock battery to see if the problem might be the extended battery. Sure enough while on the stock battery the sod's stopped. Its been a day now. Has anyone else experienced this, heard of it or can it be possible? Thank you.
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tomzefi said:
Okay, I have been getting the sod on my gnex for a long time. Anytime I would launch an app after about 15 seconds into it my phone would freeze and go into sod. I flashed back to stock and sprint replaced my gnex so when I got it I kept it unrooted for a while to see if it was because I was rooted. Same thing happened while I was unrooted. I thought to myself let me use the stock battery to see if the problem might be the extended battery. Sure enough while on the stock battery the sod's stopped. Its been a day now. Has anyone else experienced this, heard of it or can it be possible? Thank you.
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Original Samsung battery / high quality replacement or a cheap imitation like the ones on eBay?

Petrovski80 said:
Original Samsung battery / high quality replacement or a cheap imitation like the ones on eBay?
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The one from sprint that they were giving away. That's the second one they sent me. The first one my phone wouldn't boot and as soon as I put the old one in it booted. Now the second one seems to causing sod's. Possible?
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tomzefi said:
The one from sprint that they were giving away. That's the second one they sent me. The first one my phone wouldn't boot and as soon as I put the old one in it booted. Now the second one seems to causing sod's. Possible?
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Sure. If the battery is unstable and cannot properly sustain its voltage. You say it's reproducible when opening apps. Generally this action will cause the kernel to temporarily increase the CPU frequency and voltage, if the battery cannot deliver, I imagine this can affect Android in multiple undesirable ways

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Sure. If the battery is unstable and cannot properly sustain its voltage. You say it's reproducible when opening apps. Generally this action will cause the kernel to temporarily increase the CPU frequency and voltage, if the battery cannot deliver, I imagine this can affect Android in multiple undesirable ways
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Man that sounds logical. Kuz that's the way it happens. It seems like when CPU is increased, bam, sod. Wonder if adjusting voltage will help? Or have them send me another one ?
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tomzefi said:
Man that sounds logical. Kuz that's the way it happens. It seems like when CPU is increased, bam, sod. Wonder if adjusting voltage will help? Or have them send me another one ?
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Personally I'd want a good battery for my phone instead of having to tweak around a bad one.

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Personally I'd want a good battery for my phone instead of having to tweak around a bad one.
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Ya your rite about that. I gonna have them replace that one and see if the new one is stable and if not just going to stick with the stock one.
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Personally I'd want a good battery for my phone instead of having to tweak around a bad one.
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Good advice. Thanks. For the longest time it was driving me nuts. I thought it was kuz I was rooted and running beta Roms but my gut was pointing to the battery. Just didn't want to believe and think that it would caused the issue. As soon as I use the extended it happens every time.
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They replaced my extended battery and does not do it any more. Thanks for that info. Good call
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Glad you got it sorted. :thumbup:
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About to buy the Nitro: anything I should know?

I'm thinking of getting this phone for cheap. I read about touch sensitivity issues. Is this a problem you guys notice? Anything else I should know?
Sorry if this is in the wrong section. Thanks in advance.
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Have not noticed. Only issue I have is battery and the stats look a lot better on paper
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lbomber7 said:
Have not noticed. Only issue I have is battery and the stats look a lot better on paper
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Damn. Even with the ICS upgrade? This is crazy because I had an Atrix 2 for a while and with 1gb of ram you'd expect it to be okay. But this is that and 1.5ghz dual core.
But for $65 is it worth it? I mean in my city, there's lots of cheap and good phones. But this is the cheapest in its power range.
Should I just shell out a couple more bucks for a better phone?
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Also how is your screen on time?
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the battery issues have been dealt with using wind kernel on a v20f ics rom or cm 10.1.2 with wind wernel

I have never been able to root this phone, so that kind of stinks. My biggest issue is the battery life is horrible!!!! Also stinks that we'll never see JB on here without rooting!!!
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thedicarlos said:
I have never been able to root this phone, so that kind of stinks. My biggest issue is the battery life is horrible!!!! Also stinks that we'll never see JB on here without rooting!!!
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Rooting this phone is easy...what stock ROM are you on? As far as battery life I can go all day without needing to charge. My wife can't say that with her iPhone and people at work who have galaxy s3 and s4 are always charging. Haven't had complaints about battery life since I moved from GB a year ago.
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I found the overheating on the phone pretty bad but since I got cyanogenmod the phone isn't overheating anymore. Anyway I suggest getting it as the phone is pretty good other then a few problems
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I think it depends phone to phone but on a super light usage day I might get 12-14 hrs. On my normal usage like 5-6hrs even with wind kernel and cm10.1. The major plus of the phone is that 2years later it still has one of the highest ppi's available.
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I should mention that The battery is fine on standby. Play some games and forget about it! My software version is V20-c. Its been a while since I tried to root her, but none of the methods worked for me. I've rooted my Kindle Fire and my previous Android phone, so I have rooted in the past. The overheating issue is bad also, but overall, this has been a good phone! The display is beautiful and the processor is quite fast. I don't regret buying this, but wanted to be honest in my overview...
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thedicarlos said:
I should mention that The battery is fine on standby. Play some games and forget about it! My software version is V20-c. Its been a while since I tried to root her, but none of the methods worked for me. I've rooted my Kindle Fire and my previous Android phone, so I have rooted in the past. The overheating issue is bad also, but overall, this has been a good phone! The display is beautiful and the processor is quite fast. I don't regret buying this, but wanted to be honest in my overview...
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To root v20c use this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
This works 100% as long as it is installed to c:/ and don't run as administrator.
However if you want to install cwm to install custom ROMs and tweaks (recommended) use this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044645
This will allow you to install a variety of ROMs that are based on stock that will offset better battery life including game playing. At the very least install wind kernel in addition to better battery life it removes security from the boot loader so you can uninstall bloatware without bricking ie. Google Play movies.
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The battery drain is for me the biggest issue. But with wind kernel and other roms it is much better. It depends on what you want to do with the phone. When you play all the day, yeah then you will charge often. But other phones have same problem. I bought an extender battery. By the way the phone is better in my hands weight of course a little bit higher.
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lviseth said:
I'm thinking of getting this phone for cheap. I read about touch sensitivity issues. Is this a problem you guys notice? Anything else I should know?
Sorry if this is in the wrong section. Thanks in advance.
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It is no problem to change the sensitivity of the screen. After flashing a new rom I change the worth in the system folder once and then the sensitivity is fast and smooth. For this you can use an app of course. But why installing an app when I can do this manually ?

What is the average screen on time around here? Thanks for all the great input!
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Thanks for the info! I will try these methods!
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I have this phone a couple of months, the real big problem with my Nitro was random reboots after ICS upgrade, finally I have to install v18f (ICS leak), with that ROM I solve the random reboots but battery life was horrible so I have to sell it.

fguzmant said:
I have this phone a couple of months, the real big problem with my Nitro was random reboots after ICS upgrade, finally I have to install v18f (ICS leak), with that ROM I solve the random reboots but battery life was horrible so I have to sell it.
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There are a few bad apples out in the wild. They are from the original batch that came out in 2011. But they are just fine in gingerbread. Sorry about your luck man.
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Performance-wise, I went from a Galaxy S III to this phone, and the UI is decently smooth on the stock ROM. On CM it's pretty laggy unless you use Wind Kernel, which makes it a lot smoother. The screen is very sharp - I actually like its screen more than my S III.
However, I've had some bad issues with overheating on this phone. During normal use, it's not an issue, but I've had the phone shut off or reboot during GPS navigation, and when I felt the phone it was downright hot, especially on the back right where it says "8MP HD" below the camera. It got so hot that I couldn't touch it. Battery drain when under heavy load (games, GPS navigation, etc.) is also pretty bad. My 2 amp car USB charger can't keep up with it during GPS navigation, and the battery will still drain even though it's charging.
I've had the phone for a few months, and it is a decent phone overall, but I'd explore some alternatives.

I decided to go with an alternative. I got lucky and found a real good deal. I'm amazed myself. Thanks everyone for your input.
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