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[Q] how to install Clockworkmod Recovery after unlocked bootloader?

Hello
I have a friend who has htc desire and we have successfully unlocked the bootload via the htcdev.com .
now we are trying to install the clockworkmod recovery with serval ways but without success.
the phone is still S-ON of course and HBOOT 1.03.0003 + BRAVO PVT3 + RADIO 5.11.05.27 .
can please any one help us?
thanks a lot.
we have try this way
youtube.com/watch?v=6lR2vFm3-kc
and with this way also
The Unrevoked Method
lifehacker.com/5789397/the-always-up+to+date-guide-to-rooting-any-android-phone

go home.
you will find no answers here.

thanks sjknight413
any one else with knowledge?

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Try revolutionary ! It will S-Off your phone and install the revolutionary recovery. From then on you can flash other hboots or recovery's
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revolutionary is not working with hboot 1.03 (1.02 and lower)
I think the only way is downgrade(if possible, don't know the way) and get root/s-off on lower hboot

MarcelHofs said:
Try revolutionary ! It will S-Off your phone and install the revolutionary recovery. From then on you can flash other hboots or recovery's
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i have tried the revolutionary method now but with no result.
the hboot is 1.03 and not 1.02
when i double click the revolutionary.exe the cmd is closing.

kotag82 said:
revolutionary is not working with hboot 1.03 (1.02 and lower)
I think the only way is downgrade and get root/s-off on lower hboot
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Is it possible to downgrade without being s-off ? I am having doubts about that ? I am also still learning ;-)
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Checked the STICKIE on troubles with hboot and s-off your phone. I just read there that you might flash a RUU that will get you to another bootloader.....
Like kotag82 said !
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try to flash flash recovery from fastboot
see this post for more info
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MarcelHofs said:
Checked the STICKIE on troubles with hboot and s-off your phone. I just read there that you might flash a RUU that will get you to another bootloader.....
Like kotag82 said !
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just read one of BORTAK'S post in another question as this one, as far he knows, no downgrade is possible yet... but worth to try with goldcard

elessargr said:
via the htcdev.com
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There is your problem. HTC official method doesn't give you the same freedom unofficial methods do. As far as I know there is no turn back yet, so bad luck for you, inform yourself better next time. htcdev gives you root but leaves hboot locked.
from HTC site:
htc said:
Why is my security still on (S-On) after I have unlocked my bootloader?
Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
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You can't change your bootloader because you are S-ON and you can't get S-OFF because methods to get S-OFF are based on original bootloaders, by installing HTC's new bootloader you have locked you out of getting S-OFF. HTC does only give you access to boot, recovery and system, is not full S-OFF and that includes a locked bootloader.

yeah you basically screwed yourself by using the official method. Ironic isnt it?
via xda app

Not sure why all the peripheral discussion around here makes it sound as if he's bricked his phone.
OP, I understand you've "successfully" unlocked the bootloader and want to flash cwmr. In that case, the solution is to download a .img image of cwmr, and flash it using the fastboot program:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Or use any of the GUI tools for fastboot.
For all practical purposes, unlocked bootloader ought to be enough for you.

ok problem sovled
This method i have folow with some changes.
1) Unlock phone via HTC official process (registration required)
You are now unlocked S-ON but have no root access on the existing rom, however by doing it the official way you dont need to flash the radio anyway. I used the following steps to get CM7 installed on mine.
2) Downloaded ClockworkMod Recovery 5 (GSM not CDMA)
download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-bravo.img
(i have download instead dl.dropbox.com/u/4518713/recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.7.111102-j_r0dd_mod-bravo.zip this from this topic)
(sorry - forum wont let me post urls yet)
3) reboot phone into fastboot
and plug in the usb
4) In the environment you set up for the HTC unlock process enter
(this means put the *.img file you downloaded in this file: C:/Android (with adb, fastboot)
open cmd, type:
"cd c:\Android"
"fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-bravo.img" OR "fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.7.111102-j_r0dd_mod-bravo.img"
5)unplug the usb cable from your phone.
select bootloader press power to select
wait 20 sec
select recovery press power to select
if the flash was successful you will se the ClockWorkMod Recovery 5.0.2.0 OR 5.0.2.7
6) To navigate into ClockWorkMod Recovery
Use trackpad, not power to select

Yes, that's the age old method of flashing via hboot. Nothing new about it.

Android flasher can also be used to flash recovery right? And isn't it much easier?
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yes, for newbies. For us, we could probably finish flashing by the time you load it.

PreScoper said:
Android flasher can also be used to flash recovery right? And isn't it much easier?
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Yeah Android Flasher is a useful tool as I use it myself but I still believe that the manual way of doing it using command is the best way to go specially if you are having issues.

[Q] Can you S-off and have a Unlocked Bootloader?

I'm trying to root my girlfriend's T-mobile HTC Wildfire S properly like I did with my HTC Sensation. Switching views from Sensation forums, Wildfire S is very hectic and chaotic. There are not any clear and organized post that list the steps.
Questions:
1.) Is it possible to root, s-off, and unlocked bootloader for T-mobile US HTC Wildfire S?
2.) I read many post where you can s-off the phone but bootloader remained locked and vice versa. Why can you s-off with one method and then unlock bootloader with another?
3.) Just to make sure. If the phone is unlocked with bootloader but S-on, can we start flashing custom ROMs? What about if the phone is S-off and bootloader is locked, can we flash custom ROMs then?
Thank you in advance, any help will be very considerate!

YES in both cases
S-on + bootloader unlocked, you can flash custom roms.
S-off + bootloader locked, you can flash custom roms.
In both cases you need custom recovery, clockwork mod etc.

intel007 said:
YES in both cases
S-on + bootloader unlocked, you can flash custom roms.
S-off + bootloader locked, you can flash custom roms.
In both cases you need custom recovery, clockwork mod etc.
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Great! Can you actually guide me =D
Do you prefer me to Unlock bootloader before s-off or vice versa? Can you tell me what you did? It'll help soooo much. In addition, do 4ext Recovery work?

Once s-off, download clockwork recovery from alquez thread in development section.
Place the file PG76IMG.zip in the root of your SD.
Power off your phone, pull battery, replace battery, hold volume down + power to enter hboot,
Wait for file to be found and it will ask if you wanna update, click yes (volume up I think) then reboot your phone.
Note: you will need to delete the custom recovery file or move it from the root of your SD.
Now download root.zip just search within the wildfire s forums and you'll find it.
Note 2: once rooted you could install rom manager and install official clockwork recovery.

intel007 said:
Once s-off, download clockwork recovery from alquez thread in development section.
Place the file PG76IMG.zip in the root of your SD.
Power off your phone, pull battery, replace battery, hold volume down + power to enter hboot,
Wait for file to be found and it will ask if you wanna update, click yes (volume up I think) then reboot your phone.
Note: you will need to delete the custom recovery file or move it from the root of your SD.
Now download root.zip just search within the wildfire s forums and you'll find it.
Note 2: once rooted you could install rom manager and install official clockwork recovery.
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Where would unlocking bootloader fit in to this? What method did you use to s-off?

If your s-off no need to unlock the boot loader as the security is turned off.
If you haven't achieved s-off then unlocking the boot loader will allow you to flash roms and/or custom recovery, but you will not be able to upgrade radio or hboot.
I gained s-off with an xtc clip.

McLongDong said:
Where would unlocking bootloader fit in to this? What method did you use to s-off?
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You can unlock your bootloader by following the appropriate steps at htcdev.com/bootloader
I guess, to turn S-OFF on, you'll need XTC-Clip. Go for the bootloader method - easier.
Edit: I don't know about the safety part

xaneem said:
You can unlock your bootloader by following the appropriate steps at htcdev.com/bootloader
I guess, to turn S-OFF on, you'll need XTC-Clip. Go for the bootloader method - easier, safer.
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easier yes, but safer? i have never heard of an xtc clip mucking up a phone, and i own one....

heavy_metal_man said:
easier yes, but safer? i have never heard of an xtc clip mucking up a phone, and i own one....
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Agree completely.

xaneem said:
You can unlock your bootloader by following the appropriate steps at htcdev.com/bootloader
I guess, to turn S-OFF on, you'll need XTC-Clip. Go for the bootloader method - easier.
Edit: I don't know about the safety part
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heavy_metal_man said:
easier yes, but safer? i have never heard of an xtc clip mucking up a phone, and i own one....
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intel007 said:
Agree completely.
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Alright, to make this clear. You can't have both is the bottom-line. BUT, it is possible with an XTC-Clip.
Questions:
1.) So if I choose to s-off, what benefits do I loose from NOT unlocking bootloader? Vice versa.
2.) Do you prefer to have the phone with an unlocked bootloader or s-off? Since I can't have both.

OK there is currently no software to give full s-off. Full s-off allows to flash to the full nand including radio images and different hboots.
Htcdev unlocked boot loader is software done, and has fastboot commands enabled. But can not write to all of the nand, meaning it won't flash radios and downgraded hboots.
You can have both, but you need to get a xtc clip. S-off, then upgrade to the htcdev hboot. Then use simonsimons bootloader unlock tool from the Dev section to enable fastboot commands without HTC knowing, thus keeping warrenty. But, if you only intend to do custom roms a htcdev unlocked boot loader will suffice.
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heavy_metal_man said:
OK there is currently no software to give full s-off. Full s-off allows to flash to the full nand including radio images and different hboots.
Htcdev unlocked boot loader is software done, and has fastboot commands enabled. But can not write to all of the nand, meaning it won't flash radios and downgraded hboots.
You can have both, but you need to get a xtc clip. S-off, then upgrade to the htcdev hboot. Then use simonsimons bootloader unlock tool from the Dev section to enable fastboot commands without HTC knowing, thus keeping warrenty. But, if you only intend to do custom roms a htcdev unlocked boot loader will suffice.
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Thanks! I just want to root my girlfriend's phone because I am tired of her nagging saying her phone is slow and yada yada...If you don't mind, can you read my plan of action and tell me if it is correct or not?
STEPS TO UNLOCKING BOOTLOADER and ROOTING for T-mobile HTC Wildfire S:
1.) Follow this to unlock bootloader [TUTORIAL][S-ON] Unlock Bootloader using HTCDEV.com
*** I also found this youtube video which seems to have all the steps (HD) How to Root the HTC Wildfire S (GSM) - Cursed4Eva***
2.) I want to follow this link but it says if I have to be s-off [TUTORIAL][ROOT] How to root your HTC Wildfire S?
In addition, I see a lot of custom ROMs saying you must be s-off in order to flash. What if I am s-on with unlocked bootloader?

Well, I personally have never done this. But the logic is sound firstly upgrade to the htcdev hboot but stop before it comes to unlocking it. Then go to the dev section and look for simonsimons bootloader unlock tool. Use that to unlock the bootloader and keep warrenty then again to the dev section and flash the alquez (hope that's spelled right ) recovery! Then finally get the fashable superuser zip file for gb and flash it from recovery. You now have root
As far as custom roms are concerned most will go on an unlocked bootloader, as that is what most people have here. But is a rom states that it really needs s-off or a different radio you may have some issues
Good luck buddy. If you need links let me know
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heavy_metal_man said:
Well, I personally have never done this. But the logic is sound firstly upgrade to the htcdev hboot but stop before it comes to unlocking it. Then go to the dev section and look for simonsimons bootloader unlock tool. Use that to unlock the bootloader and keep warrenty then again to the dev section and flash the alquez (hope that's spelled right ) recovery! Then finally get the fashable superuser zip file for gb and flash it from recovery. You now have root
As far as custom roms are concerned most will go on an unlocked bootloader, as that is what most people have here. But is a rom states that it really needs s-off or a different radio you may have some issues
Good luck buddy. If you need links let me know
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when you say upgrade htcdev hboot, do you just go on the site and download the PG7624000? If not how do you upgrade htcdev hboot? My carrier is Tmo US

Go onto the website and select the ruu for your carrier download and install. After it finishes boot to hboot and if it says locked your good to go. Afaik
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heavy_metal_man said:
Go onto the website and select the ruu for your carrier download and install. After it finishes boot to hboot and if it says locked your good to go. Afaik
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Alright, that's great! What was your favorite ROM?

Well, I quite like sense, especially the flip clock. But my old buzz ran like **** with it so I used cyanogenmod 7.2 rom I have heard the cm9 is going well with a full working camera, but my friend gets some bad battery issues.
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[Q] Wiped phone through clockwork with s-on, cant restore

I made a mistake rooting a friends droid incredible and left s-on, I have clockwork but it cant flash anything, I presume its because of the s-on. I wiped the phone without a backup to install miui, so I now have a droid incredible that can only get into hboot, clockwork, and fastboot. It also will not install 31img.zips, Yes ive renamed them correctly I just call them 31's. Help please?

You need to flash an RUU in the form of PB31IMG.zip. It needs to be named PB31IMG.zip and on the root of a FAT32 formatted sdcard. If you use the froyo RUU on pvillecomp.com you can use unrevoked to root again though your friend will just want it working.

My HBOOT wont give me the option to flash, it finds it and checks it, but wont let me install. im downloading the froyo ruu right now in hopes that it will connect through fastboot and do it.

What is your hboot version?
Tiny you are more knowledgeable at this than I, but I was wondering
1) would using PB31IMG's fail if used on the 1.02 hboot?
2) If they were to use the unrevoked tool to flash s-off, could they install a rom without having to boot into the already wiped phone?

I am on hboot version 1.02. My nexus and optimus s were so simple.

(sorry for double post) RUU's will not work

deathangel1496 said:
I am on hboot version 1.02. My nexus and optimus s were so simple.
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Have you used the htc dev site to unkock the bootloader? If not you need to do that, then fastboot flash cwm recovery, then flash superuser thru cwm recovery.

SlimSnoopOS said:
What is your hboot version?
Tiny you are more knowledgeable at this than I, but I was wondering
1) would using PB31IMG's fail if used on the 1.02 hboot?
2) If they were to use the unrevoked tool to flash s-off, could they install a rom without having to boot into the already wiped phone?
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I would try flashing unrevoked forever before doing anything else. Logically this would get you s-off and allow you to flash a ROM. I wouldn't run straight to unlocking your bootloader because it is a lot harder to reverse that than it is to reverse the effects of unrevoked forever. (in the long run, that is. right now there would be no reason to reverse either)

nschiwy said:
I would try flashing unrevoked forever before doing anything else. Logically this would get you s-off and allow you to flash a ROM. I wouldn't run straight to unlocking your bootloader because it is a lot harder to reverse that than it is to reverse the effects of unrevoked forever. (in the long run, that is. right now there would be no reason to reverse either)
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actually bootloader is easy to lock. I think it's fastboot oem lock. You can unlock it again using the same token you used to unlock before that you should save if you decide to do that. Unrevoked forever only works on certain radio versions. With an unlocked bootloader you should be able to flash any PB31IMG.zip as well as flash with fastboot. With S-OFF I know you can flash custom PB31IMG.zip and also older RUUs.

tiny4579 said:
actually bootloader is easy to lock. I think it's fastboot oem lock. You can unlock it again using the same token you used to unlock before that you should save if you decide to do that. Unrevoked forever only works on certain radio versions. With an unlocked bootloader you should be able to flash any PB31IMG.zip as well as flash with fastboot. With S-OFF I know you can flash custom PB31IMG.zip and also older RUUs.
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Yes, but doesn't it then say 're-locked bootloader' or something to that effect where verizon or whoever else could tell that it has been unlocked before and therefore void any warranty? Whereas the s-off tool can be reversed using the s-on tool and nobody has to know anything was ever there. I don't have any experience in that department, I'm just speculating based on things that I have read.

nschiwy said:
Yes, but doesn't it then say 're-locked bootloader' or something to that effect where verizon or whoever else could tell that it has been unlocked before and therefore void any warranty? Whereas the s-off tool can be reversed using the s-on tool and nobody has to know anything was ever there. I don't have any experience in that department, I'm just speculating based on things that I have read.
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Maybe, but I think when you submit for an unlock token is when HTC knows you unlocked your bootloader.

I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one

tiny4579 said:
Maybe, but I think when you submit for an unlock token is when HTC knows you unlocked your bootloader.
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That is probably true, I never thought of that. I guess they probably think that I have an unlocked bootloader now too since I made an account and downloaded the tool to help a friend with his phone.
deathangel1496 said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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I may be mistaken, but isn't this what you are looking for?
http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=22
additionally, why did you flash stock recovery vs. CWM? I don't have any experience with stock but CWM seems to be perfect for anything I've ever needed a recovery for. ie - flashing new ROMs or backing up/ restoring ROMs

deathangel1496 said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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Do steps 6 - 27 of this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 to install cwm recovery and get root. If you want true s-off continue to follow steps 28 - 43.

Can someone please make guides/tutorials for S-OFF HTC One X?

Title says it all. I know that with S-OFF, things should be easier than with S-ON. Nut this is my first Android device and even if I read different threads regarding rooting/flashing, etc., things are still complicated specially because the guides are specifically made for S-ON devices - which is understandable, I know. Considering that the existence of S-OFF HTC One Xs are almost a myth.

It sounds like you do know that S-OFF is not generally available for the HOX. So, do you have S-OFF and what specific things are you trying to figure out?
Here are a couple of simple things:
if you have S-OFF, then when you flash a ROM from recovery it will also update the boot.img so you don't need to flash the boot.img separately in bootloader mode.
If you are flashing an hboot, you don't have to the fastboot oem lock first.

The OP has an S-OFF One X and has NO idea what he's doing...complete waste of an S-OFF device IMO

EddyOS said:
The OP has an S-OFF One X and has NO idea what he's doing...complete waste of an S-OFF device IMO
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Uhh, yeah, I know that. That's why I am trying to learn things. Thanks for 'helping' me 'recognized contributor'.

All you have to do is follow every other guide that's on here, the only difference being you can flash any RUU you want if you need to go back to stock. There's not a lot to it
And just cause I'm an RC doesn't mean I have to be nice

Chezbel said:
It sounds like you do know that S-OFF is not generally available for the HOX. So, do you have S-OFF and what specific things are you trying to figure out?
Here are a couple of simple things:
if you have S-OFF, then when you flash a ROM from recovery it will also update the boot.img so you don't need to flash the boot.img separately in bootloader mode.
If you are flashing an hboot, you don't have to the fastboot oem lock first.
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I am reading this thread - [Guide] - The Ultimate Stock to Custom ROM Awesomeness thread - Noob friendly and I don't know which steps apply to my phone since the thread is not specifically for S-off devices:
Unlock bootloader - do i need to do this? do i have a reason to go to htcdev.com if I want to install custom ROM on my phone? do i need an identifier token?
Custom Recovery/Clockwork MOD/SuperSU - is this essential so I can flash a custom ROM?
Titanium Backup - is this a must?

EddyOS said:
The OP has an S-OFF One X and has NO idea what he's doing...complete waste of an S-OFF device IMO
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completely agree :laugh:

Chezbel said:
It sounds like you do know that S-OFF is not generally available for the HOX. So, do you have S-OFF and what specific things are you trying to figure out?
Here are a couple of simple things:
if you have S-OFF, then when you flash a ROM from recovery it will also update the boot.img so you don't need to flash the boot.img separately in bootloader mode.
If you are flashing an hboot, you don't have to the fastboot oem lock first.
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I am reading this thread - [Guide] - The Ultimate Stock to Custom ROM Awesomeness thread - Noob friendly and I don't know which steps apply to my phone since the thread is not specifically for S-off devices:
Unlock bootloader - do i need to do this? do i have a reason to go to htcdev.com if I want to install custom ROM on my phone? do i need an identifier token?
Custom Recovery/Clockwork MOD/SuperSU - is this essential so I can flash a custom ROM?
Titanium Backup - is this a must?
EddyOS said:
All you have to do is follow every other guide that's on here, the only difference being you can flash any RUU you want if you need to go back to stock. There's not a lot to it
And just cause I'm an RC doesn't mean I have to be nice
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Oh, i know that one! Had to flash a RUU after I got stuck on boot trying to install a custom ROM. Anyway, S-off or not, do I need CWM? Because that's where I think I got wrong. I never heard of clockwork mod before I installed this custom rom. Now I am reading this guide but it doesn't mention where I should put the recovery.img before I flash it.

Yes you do. Having s-off means you can fall back on any RUU to go back to stock. Other than that you follow the same guides as everyone else
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Wow.... Seems like the one v forum isn't the only one full of jerks.
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cammykool said:
Wow.... Seems like the one v forum isn't the only one full of jerks.
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Who is the idiot you're referring to?
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jed27.galvez said:
I am reading this thread - [Guide] - The Ultimate Stock to Custom ROM Awesomeness thread - Noob friendly and I don't know which steps apply to my phone since the thread is not specifically for S-off devices:
Unlock bootloader - do i need to do this? do i have a reason to go to htcdev.com if I want to install custom ROM on my phone? do i need an identifier token?
Custom Recovery/Clockwork MOD/SuperSU - is this essential so I can flash a custom ROM?
Titanium Backup - is this a must?
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You shouldn't have to do the htcdev unlock
If you want to flash any ROMs or make system backups you must install a recovery such as CWM or TWRP
Perhaps Titanium backup is a not must, but I would highly recommend it. That has nothing to do with S-ON vs S-OFF. It's a very useful tool for backing up your applications and other information. The paid version is well worth the money.
In general, as was mentioned before, you can still follow all the guides step by step. It's possible that some steps don't apply to you, but it won't hurt to do them. If you aren't sure what you are doing then it's better not to guess about which steps to skip.

I have got to the part on installing a custom recovery, but it says NOT ALLOWED. I asked some recognized members and some said that it is not enough that I am s-off to flash custom recovery, that I should also unlock bootloader.
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OK, that makes sense because you have to flash recovery from the bootloader. I think it would save you some time and confusion if you just pretend that you have S-ON like everyone else and follow all steps of the guides you are using.
If you do that, including unlocking your bootloader, then the main difference for you will be when flashing a new ROM from CWM or TWRP since the boot.img will get updated. With S-ON that can't happen from recovery, the boot.img can only be flashed from the bootloader screen.

jed27.galvez said:
I have got to the part on installing a custom recovery, but it says NOT ALLOWED. I asked some recognized members and some said that it is not enough that I am s-off to flash custom recovery, that I should also unlock bootloader.
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When having S-OFF you have to give the command on whicht partition you want. As I heard you can't say recovery or something.
I managed this with the application "Rom Manager". Also S-OFF device. But for flashing a CWM through "Rom Manager" you have rooted your phone first.

Chezbel said:
OK, that makes sense because you have to flash recovery from the bootloader. I think it would save you some time and confusion if you just pretend that you have S-ON like everyone else and follow all steps of the guides you are using.
If you do that, including unlocking your bootloader, then the main difference for you will be when flashing a new ROM from CWM or TWRP since the boot.img will get updated. With S-ON that can't happen from recovery, the boot.img can only be flashed from the bootloader screen.
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Some devs don't include the boot.img in their rom zip so you'd still have to flash it separately with fast boot.
To unlock your bootloader simply type fastboot oem unlock, unlike s-on phones, you don't require the unlock file from htcdev.com
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stuart0001 said:
To unlock your bootloader simply type fastboot oem unlock, unlike s-on phones, you don't require the unlock file from htcdev.com
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Are you sure? I don't think that is true (at least not in all cases)

Chezbel said:
Are you sure? I don't think that is true (at least not in all cases)
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tried fastboot oem unlock, doesn't seem to work for me, I get an error message. Ugh, I can't continue with htcdev.com, their site is always down or very very slow.

Hi Stuart,
Even if the boot.img is included in the zip you need to flash the boot.img separate isn't?
What I'm trying to say is, it doesn't make a difference if they include it in the zip or not, if it's not included you only need to download twice.
stuart0001 said:
Some devs don't include the boot.img in their rom zip so you'd still have to flash it separately with fast boot.
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Laurentius26 said:
Hi Stuart,
Even if the boot.img is included in the zip you need to flash the boot.img separate isn't?
What I'm trying to say is, it doesn't make a difference if they include it in the zip or not, if it's not included you only need to download twice.
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With S-OFF, if the boot.img is in the ROM then you don't need to flash it separately.
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HTC Desire - update recovery

Hello!
Some time ago, in 2011 or so, I followed a tutorial and managed to root my HTC Desire Bravo A8181. In fact, I just rooted it and somehow it's still S-ON.
Now the thing is that I want to flash a new recovery ( 5.x.x.x) instead of my 2.5.x.x . I can't find the exact tutorial for this because my phone is not unrooted.
If someone could help me and point me through the exact steps in doing this operation, I'd be grateful. Thank you!

heyho!
[RECOVERY][June6] TWRP 2.7.1.0 Touch Recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2595654
all the information you need is in the thread!
Have fun!

Wh1plash said:
Hello!
Some time ago, in 2011 or so, I followed a tutorial and managed to root my HTC Desire Bravo A8181. In fact, I just rooted it and somehow it's still S-ON.
Now the thing is that I want to flash a new recovery ( 5.x.x.x) instead of my 2.5.x.x . I can't find the exact tutorial for this because my phone is not unrooted.
If someone could help me and point me through the exact steps in doing this operation, I'd be grateful. Thank you!
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Rooting and S-ON / S-OFF are separate. Rooting is just to do with root access, I assume you used unrevoked for this. S-OFF is fully unlocking the bootloader, and is much more powerful overall.
To flash a different recovery you need to be S-OFF first. Search and user 'revolutionary' for this
Instructions to actually flash the recovery are in that thread linked above.
Whilst it's useful to change to a recent recovery, the main benefit of S-OFF is actually to change hboot so you can increase the Desire's actual internal memory.

Thank you!
So, if I switch to TWRP do I need to S-OFF? I saw I could flash it just like a ROM, from the actual Recovery.
When I try to S-OFF with revolutionary, it seems it won't get past 'Waiting for device...' even though I installed USB Drivers.
Of course I am sure that USB Debugging was enabled.

Wh1plash said:
Thank you!
So, if I switch to TWRP do I need to S-OFF? I saw I could flash it just like a ROM, from the actual Recovery.
When I try to S-OFF with revolutionary, it seems it won't get past 'Waiting for device...' even though I installed USB Drivers.
Of course I am sure that USB Debugging was enabled.
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Were you in fastboot when running revolutionary? If your bootloader is unlocked then u need to flash it via fastboot but if it is s off I think you can do from recovery or the PB99IMG.zip method.
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