It unfortunatly came with knox... now what if i dont care to trip knox... will having knox effect the way i glash roms... or can i even flash roms? [Ive searched everywhere for my answer and all i get is mixed answers...] some say i cant flash with knox... others are talking in threads like they tripped knox and flashing roms... HELP PLEASE... thanks in advanceee!
btw from all the reading i ha e done it seems that a "Tripped knox counter" only affects the ppl sending it thru repair and not warrenty... please if someone can shed light on this... again... thanks in advance!
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Knox doesn't prevent you from rooting or flashing ROM.
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Thanks but what about warranty rejecting the phone because of Knox or is it only for repair by the way I'm in New Jersey
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Thanks but what about warranty rejecting the phone because of Knox or is it only for repair by the way I'm in New Jersey
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Your warrenty (The phone no longer powers on, send me a new one) is voided by tripping Knox.
Your insurance (The $9 a month you may or may not pay for damage or loss) is not voided.
Please search next time. There are literally 30 threads asking this exact question. Searching avoids filling up the forum with repeated questions, which makes finding unique questions more difficult.
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Knox doesn't prevent you from rooting or flashing ROM.
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Opps but ive updated to tmobile stock 4.4.2... does this mean i cant root? ive searched everywhere for the answer but it seems like ppl just started updating....
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Your warrenty (The phone no longer powers on, send me a new one) is voided by tripping Knox.
Your insurance (The $9 a month you may or may not pay for damage or loss) is not voided.
Please search next time. There are literally 30 threads asking this exact question. Searching avoids filling up the forum with repeated questions, which makes finding unique questions more difficult.
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The warranty is not voided if you void Knox I did and I was running custom u sent mine in after it broke and they sent me a new one because it was still under warranty
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The warranty is not voided if you void Knox I did and I was running custom u sent mine in after it broke and they sent me a new one because it was still under warranty
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Let me rephrase that...
Tripping knox is SUPPOSED to void your warrenty. Many people are finding that Samsung/T Mobile aren't properly checking the Knox status with a warrenty claim and are honoring the warrenties anyway. But it's not a guarentee.
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Let me rephrase that...
Tripping knox is SUPPOSED to void your warrenty. Many people are finding that Samsung/T Mobile aren't properly checking the Knox status with a warrenty claim and are honoring the warrenties anyway. But it's not a guarentee.
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I hear that tmobile doesn't care much seems it's more of a Samsung thing
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I hear that tmobile doesn't care much seems it's more of a Samsung thing
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T Mobile is going to care once Samsung stops saying Knox tripped phones back from T Mobile. Remember, it's not T Mobile that is repairing the borken devices are reselling them as refurbished. Samsung is still doing that. T Mobile just asks as a middle man in that process. The warrenty is still Samsung's. And when Samsung tells T Mobile they won't accept any more knox tripped phones, T Mobile is going to start checking more closely.
That said, the warrenty is still invalid per the user agreement with Knox tripped. T Mobile could decide tomorrow or 6 months from now to start checking. If they do they are well within the law to deny a warrenty claim on a knox tripped phone. Just because they are ignoring it now doesn't mean they have to.
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T Mobile is going to care once Samsung stops saying Knox tripped phones back from T Mobile. REmember, it's not
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That will suck
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Opps but ive updated to tmobile stock 4.4.2... does this mean i cant root? ive searched everywhere for the answer but it seems like ppl just started updating....
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No?
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As of right now no.
There will need to be a new modified tar image or other loop whole to get root.
How To Root M919UVUFNB4 Android 4.4.2 KitKat On T-Mobile Galaxy S4 SGH-M919
http://true-android.blogspot.com/2014/03/root-m919uvufnb4-t-mobile-galaxy-s4.html
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How To Root M919UVUFNB4 Android 4.4.2 KitKat On T-Mobile Galaxy S4 SGH-M919
http://true-android.blogspot.com/2014/03/root-m919uvufnb4-t-mobile-galaxy-s4.html
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I love you... youre my hero... lol thanks
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I love you... youre my hero... lol thanks
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You're very welcome! If I were you though, I would wait and see that it is a confirmed "working" method. So many variables involved, like KNOX, better to be safe than sorry.
I have a friend that manages tmobile. He said that mobile CANNOT refuse an issured costumer. Because there is signed documents before Knox was even in the picture... If someone tries to refuse it. Tell them to show you some type of paper work that you have signed that says so. Or ask them to pull up your original. Contract/ or the insurance rules from day one.
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I have a friend that manages tmobile. He said that mobile CANNOT refuse an issured costumer. Because there is signed documents before Knox was even in the picture... If someone tries to refuse it. Tell them to show you some type of paper work that you have signed that says so. Or ask them to pull up your original. Contract/ or the insurance rules from day one.
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And if that doesn't work, you can call the Insurance Commission in your state. Every state has one. They regulate ALL insurance matters.
The T Mobile insurance is just a normal property and casualty policy. Insurance commissions do not play around and they have absolute authority in a state to force an insurance company to pay a claim if you can prove they have no valid reason to deny it.
I am a licensed insurance rep in several states and I have dealt with insurance commissions all over the country. So I am absolutely positive about this. Every state has a process to dispute a denial for any policy, no matter how small.
All that said, I doubt you would ever have to fake it that far. Especially since the policy covers loss as much as damage. If they did deny the claim, just lose it and file the claim as a loss.
Now the warrenty is a whole different animal that is covered very differently. All different rules and hardly any governmental protections.
Sent from your phone. You should be more careful where you leave that thing.
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i have a tmobile galaxy s3 if i root it will i lose the insurance that i have on my phone ?? i know is a stupid question i just want to be 100 percent sure
Yes
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Depends on the insurance. Need more info. Also a diff between rooting and being caught rooting. If it is working enough for them to tell you rooted on a claim it is working enough to reverse before you send it in. Some insurance don't care either way.
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I believe you can always unroot it/use triangle away and it will seem as if you did nothing to it. Just don't be stupid and hard brick it
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If your able to restore stock whitout trouble you can !
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If you shatter your phone and they replace it I don't think they will have a problem replacing it if its rooted.
Besides, if your really paranoid just tell them you dropped it in a lake, (It happened to me once).
um I have asurion as insurance i dont know if by more info this is what you meant.
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Depends on the insurance. Need more info. Also a diff between rooting and being caught rooting. If it is working enough for them to tell you rooted on a claim it is working enough to reverse before you send it in. Some insurance don't care either way.
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thank you all for your replies. I am really a noob when it comes to rooting any phone i once manage to root a g2x with alot of videos lol but yeah i wish to root my galaxy so i can use the siaxis app but i dont want to lose my insurance
Warranty yes, insurance no. Rooting voids your warranty, not your insurance. Insurance covers physical damage, so if you hard brick your phone, just to be safe you "accidentally" dropped it in the bathtub.
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thank you very much
Towle said:
Warranty yes, insurance no. Rooting voids your warranty, not your insurance. Insurance covers physical damage, so if you hard brick your phone, just to be safe you "accidentally" dropped it in the bathtub.
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I think you'd win in small claims if Samsung denied you warranty because you rooted your device, assuming there is a product defect.
To be honest there's also a choice DONT ROOT. It seems like it's all new to you, and believe me Samsung phones are way easier to brick than LG or HTC if you don't read carefully. Look if it's worth the risk playing a android game with a ps3 controller or loosing your phone for a period of time. If you go ahead and do it make sure you BACK UP YOUR EMEI, many times that gets overlooked when it's really the most important thing in your phone.
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I think you'd win in small claims if Samsung denied you warranty because you rooted your device, assuming there is a product defect.
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thank you
daxecutioner24 said:
To be honest there's also a choice DONT ROOT. It seems like it's all new to you, and believe me Samsung phones are way easier to brick than LG or HTC if you don't read carefully. Look if it's worth the risk playing a android game with a ps3 controller or loosing your phone for a period of time. If you go ahead and do it make sure you BACK UP YOUR EMEI, many times that gets overlooked when it's really the most important thing in your phone.
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thank you.... im scared to root my phone so im still thinking
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thank you.... im scared to root my phone so im still thinking
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Just read, read, read. Then read some more. Make sure you fully understand every possible thing that can go wrong (I.e. Losing imei) and how to fix it. If you know what can happen, and how it happens, you will know how to avoid those things. Never have the "I will cross that bridge when I get there" attitude. Almost everything that can go wrong is 100% preventable/curable if you know about it ahead of time. If you don't feel like you can explain to someone else how to root or fix their phone, you're not ready yet.
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thank you.... im scared to root my phone so im still thinking
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No problem haven't rooted mine and I rooted every other phone I have. I just feel android is android it all looks the same. Not much difference between roms apart from the speed with build props and bloatware free. While you can always prepared yourself 100 percent there's always that random encounter that you can get with electronics that is not your fault and just happens.
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If the Knox counter gets tripped, will that affect me trading in my phone with T-Mobile's JUMP! Program?
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Good question. I gave in my girls HTC sensation today, rooted running AOKP, they rebooted it, saw the custom boot ani, and still gave us $65. Maybe withb jump they check more thoroughly?
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Warrior1975 said:
Good question. I gave in my girls HTC sensation today, rooted running AOKP, they rebooted it, saw the custom boot ani, and still gave us $65. Maybe withb jump they check more thoroughly?
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Lol that hilarious. All I have found is that they say it must be in working condition and no cracked screen. And it must boot and function properly.
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paul89 said:
If the Knox counter gets tripped, will that affect me trading in my phone with T-Mobile's JUMP! Program?
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Please excuse my ignorance but what is knox, thanks
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Please excuse my ignorance but what is knox, thanks
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Never mind I found it thanks
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The guy who sold me the Note 3 was into custom ROMs. When I mentioned Knox efuse and trade in with Jump he said no one there would even know what to look for at trade in and that flashing should be fine. He said the same thing about warranty returns. The insurance company would just take back the device.
But...he did mention that trade ins with Jump would end up as refurb devices. So its possible that there might be someone along the repair service chain knows whats what.
I traded my note 2 in today, running tweaked rom and custom recovery. Still got $275 for it. A lot of the phones get wiped and reflashed without even being checked to see if they were tampered with
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I couldn't believe they were offering so much for the Note 2. I almost dumped mine. I'm selling it to one of my employees already. Only 300, I wish I didn't commit, I would have sold it today, instead of waiting a month for my money.
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Note 2's probably going to go on sale like the s3 did when s4 came out and s3' were selling like mad because the price drop so maybe they want to have refurb stock to offer in case demand gets high and they run out of new note 2's due to a sale on note 2' s
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When processing a trade in the only things the computer asks is
Water damage
Does it turn on
Is the screen broken
Is their physical damage
They also gave me $275 for my Note 2. JediX19. They didn't care at all.
$275? I wish I wasn't such a nice guy sometimes. I ended up giving my mother in law my Note II.
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The guy who sold me the Note 3 was into custom ROMs. When I mentioned Knox efuse and trade in with Jump he said no one there would even know what to look for at trade in and that flashing should be fine. He said the same thing about warranty returns. The insurance company would just take back the device.
But...he did mention that trade ins with Jump would end up as refurb devices. So its possible that there might be someone along the repair service chain knows whats what.
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I don't think the eFuse matters unless you're getting it warranty repaired by Samsung and even then, they may not bother to check if there's no custom ROM running. Most people don't know about it or even care. I sent a Droid4 to Moto for warranty repair and there is something similar (it may or may not be the same) that gets flipped when it's rooted. They didn't care and repaired the defect.
Just found this thread Googling for the same thing. I was told by the guy at the T-Mobile I went to that they don't care at the store when trading it in, but he's not sure what would happen when it got to wherever they send it and see it tripped.
Basically what happens is if it is tripped your rights to the extended warranty are revoked going forward. You won't be able to add the extended warranty or jump for 12 months plus you pay out of warranty fee.
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Basically what happens is if it is tripped your rights to the extended warranty are revoked going forward. You won't be able to add the extended warranty or jump for 12 months plus you pay out of warranty fee.
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Source?
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When processing a trade in the only things the computer asks is
Water damage
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What he said^^
For now, at least.
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What he said^^
For now, at least.
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I'm a tmo rep and so far they've said nothing about checking anything but the screen and water damage etc, I've also traded in 3 different phones that were rooted and custom Rom and all and never heard a word from Samsung or whoever the traded phones go to. Plain. And simple lol we don't care what you did with your Phone. I've also sent an s3 I. Under Warranty Last Year Without Using Triangle Away And There Were No Repercussions. Cost too much money and time to check every phone they just basically reflash and refurbish and send it back out
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I'm a tmo rep and so far they've said nothing about checking anything but the screen and water damage etc, I've also traded in 3 different phones that were rooted and custom Rom and all and never heard a word from Samsung or whoever the traded phones go to. Plain. And simple lol we don't care what you did with your Phone. I've also sent an s3 I. Under Warranty Last Year Without Using Triangle Away And There Were No Repercussions. Cost too much money and time to check every phone they just basically reflash and refurbish and send it back out
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That's the thing though. Can they re flash Knox, and if so, how do we get that tool?
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That's the thing though. Can they re flash Knox, and if so, how do we get that tool?
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Don't know yet, I can go in t-community tomorrow and see if I can contact a Samsung tech and see what they say. I asked our Samsung rep and he had no clue there was such a thing as Knox. I'll get back tomorrow with an answer.
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seshaz said:
Don't know yet, I can go in t-community tomorrow and see if I can contact a Samsung tech and see what they say. I asked our Samsung rep and he had no clue there was such a thing as Knox. I'll get back tomorrow with an answer.
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I'll hold off on rooting until you get back to us then. This is my first Touchwiz Samsung phone and I'm ready to experience ASOP on this beautiful screen
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Just want to clear a few things, with knox we can root our phones now via 2 methods. One knox free and the other triggers it. Does it even matter really if I don't use knox? Sorry for the question been searching and searching for a solid answer before rooting my note 3. What would cause knox to trigger I want to flash a custom recovery and also custom rom and I bet many users are also confused
Flashing a custom recovery triggers knox. Basically your warranty will be void with no way to reset the knox counter.
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Flashing a custom recovery triggers knox. Basically your warranty will be void with no way to reset the knox counter.
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would a insurance claim work just in case of anything? Will this mess up my phone?
u mean back to tmo? Or replacement? No way to tell, I've sent back rooted phones and nothing happened but I have heard storys.
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I returned one of my two note 3's to TMO for a replacement due to a cosmetic flaw. It was Knox tripped. I had no problems at all. I did unroot and factory reset before sending it in though. replacement shipped same day and arrived the next.
I left my second line Note 3 on top of my car and drove off. It had a Spigen Slim case on it and stayed on top of my car till I had to brake for a yellow light. The phone landed 5-6 feet in front of my car and the screen cracked. This one was Knox tripped also, and I didn't bother unrooting or resetting it. I sent it in on an insurance claim once I received my replacement. They received it already and everything was fine with that one also.
175.00 deductible via Assurant (TMO Jump insurance)
I filed claim in the morning and they processed my claim and shipped same day. Phone was brand new and arrived the following day. I was impressed with the turnaround.
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would a insurance claim work just in case of anything? Will this mess up my phone?
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Yes, insurance claim it doesn't matter if it's rooted. Just like how you can take the phone all broken. Insurance and warranty are two different things.
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Ok i know if my Knox counter changes to anything higher than 0x0 it gets voided right... Ok cool but voided/rejected by who? Samsung? Or tmobile's warrenty exchange? Because from what i read everyones talking this repair this n that "i sent out for repair.." Ok but im not sending anything for repair its a WARRENTY EXCHANGE due to usb port problems... Does it get voided by tmobile? Please and thank you
Btw: i search all throught the forums and threads of knox for this and havent found anyone talking about the "WARRANTY EXCHANGE" like i said before ive read about ppl getting their device sent to repair rejected... But what about when they send u the front piece (no battery no back plated **refurbished**) and u send it back in a white box... Thats what i dont see anyone talking about...
Once again thanks in advance i just wanted to get that straightened out... :thumbup:
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We are not positive if KNOX is used for warranty purposes. Warranty exchange can be done in person at a Tmobile store or having it shipped out. It is best to go to a store and try and get it replaced. A lot of the clerks are clueless about warranty and you shouldn't have any problems with an exchange. :thumbup:
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As long as you Odin the stock ROM you should be fine.
They don't seem to really care. They just want us to know they have the upper hand.
I've warranty exchanged a s3 and an s4 recently and just odin'd to stock.
No problems.
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Android_Monsters said:
As long as you Odin the stock ROM you should be fine.
They don't seem to really care. They just want us to know they have the upper hand.
I've warranty exchanged a s3 and an s4 recently and just odin'd to stock.
No problems.
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With knox (0x1)?
Thanks in advance
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We are not positive if KNOX is used for warranty purposes. Warranty exchange can be done in person at a Tmobile store or having it shipped out. It is best to go to a store and try and get it replaced. A lot of the clerks are clueless about warranty and you shouldn't have any problems with an exchange. :thumbup:
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I never do the exchange thru a T-mobile store. I asked once about it to one of the reps at the store and they said i have to call (mytouch days lol) so ever since then I've always used the one year warrenty with Tmobile.. Not insurance or asurion... Simply..One year warrenty.. So they first serve the white box with the device then i send mine back in the same box within 7 days but i wanna know will they care about knox? Since its not a repair?..
Thanks in advance!
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Anyone?
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Anyone?
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I haven't exchanged any with the knox counter triggered, But I can tell you this much, a T-mobile rep is more concerned about water damage than anything else. that's why the 1st thing they do is to take ur battery out and check little white sticker it turns red/pinkish when exposed to water.
other than that u shouldn't have a problem, just odin back full stock and and take it back .. I would try it but I just replaced my old S4 a couple days ago and its working fine.
just go in there like a boss and demand an exchange... LOL JK
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Hmmmmmmmm
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What's the point of resetting the flash counter when the KNOX e-fuse, by definition, will also be tripped, and can't be reset? None that I can see.
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What's the point of resetting the flash counter when the KNOX e-fuse, by definition, will also be tripped, and can't be reset? None that I can see.
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You are right but the fact that chain fire got flash to reset means he still working on it. With the official 4.4.2 coming out he might be able to do Knox reset. Not that it matter cause we will still root.
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But isn't knox motherboard related? The e-fuse
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No app can magically go in to the guts of your phone and fix it lol
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From my understanding it's not an actual efuse, it's electronic, so it can be reset.
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O yea??? Awesome
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Don't quote me on that, I did read it from a pretty credible source here at xda...
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Don't quote me on that, I did read it from a pretty credible source here at xda...
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Samsung Engineer stated outright that it was a hardware efuse and once blown, that's that. If I were you, I wouldn't hold out hope....
I know what he said but he also works for them. I think someone will find a way to bypass the efuse
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Samsung Engineer stated outright that it was a hardware efuse and once blown, that's that. If I were you, I wouldn't hold out hope....
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And multiple people who had their phones serviced got them back from Samsung Service with the KNOX flag set to 0x0. It's software. It's just very clever software that Samsung won't tell us how it works.
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And multiple people who had their phones serviced got them back from Samsung Service with the KNOX flag set to 0x0. It's software. It's just very clever software that Samsung won't tell us how it works.
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Lol, that just means they got back a refurb that was never tripped in the first place.
Sorry but they can reset the counter, I sent my phone in for repair of bad SD card, knox was tripped and it came back reset, same phone, same serial number and shell.
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Lol, that just means they got back a refurb that was never tripped in the first place.
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And you know this how, speaking with such authority? Do you work for Samsung?
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And you know this how, speaking with such authority? Do you work for Samsung?
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No but doing microsurgery to repair an efuse isn't plausible. The only two choices would be a totally different refurb being sent back or a replaced motherboard if knox wasn't tripped. If the data and serial was all the same (which I honestly have a hard time believing) then that means Samsung had started using data cloning. But that's just far fetched because there's no reason to clone the serial and the data is usually junked and the customer knows this if the device is sent for repair and the repair requires replacement of core components. But anyway, that's just an educated guess. Agree or disagree, it's all good.
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Samsung Engineer stated outright that it was a hardware efuse and once blown, that's that. If I were you, I wouldn't hold out hope....
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Samsung also said that the kit kat update did not break 3rd party accessory compatibility (namely sview) but it did, and they knew it, and they got caught in the lie and are pushing a fix to make 3rd party stuff work again... sooooooo... could be the same with the efuse. then again, maybe not, but who knows.
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No but doing microsurgery to repair an efuse isn't plausible. The only two choices would be a totally different refurb being sent back or a replaced motherboard if knox wasn't tripped. If the data and serial was all the same (which I honestly have a hard time believing) then that means Samsung had started using data cloning. But that's just far fetched because there's no reason to clone the serial and the data is usually junked and the customer knows this if the device is sent for repair and the repair requires replacement of core components. But anyway, that's just an educated guess. Agree or disagree, it's all good.
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Uhh... they whole point we're making is that it's NOT an eFuse and that Samsung has a way to reset it. They contradict themselves all the time in their public statements (one department doesn't know what another is doing - completely common in huge corporations, I know, I work for one), so I'm pretty sure they were wrong on that too. Just because Chainfire or others couldn't find a way to reset it themselves doesn't mean a way doesn't exist - we just don't know it.
Look guys, think from an engineering stand point off view. I am a electrical engineer. If I was on samsung enginerring team I would not make knox a efuse when blown you would need to replace a whole mother board or something for a small thing. Samsung knows knox is not for everyone. Therefore I am sure knox thing is resettable and for now samsung only knows how to reset it.
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topgun303 said:
Look guys, think from an engineering stand point off view. I am a electrical engineer. If I was on samsung enginerring team I would not make knox a efuse when blown you would need to replace a whole mother board or something for a small thing. Samsung knows knox is not for everyone. Therefore I am sure knox thing is resettable and for now samsung only knows how to reset it.
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Let me just work for samsung and find out (joke) lol
atlzonly89 said:
Let me just work for samsung and find out (joke) lol
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Lmao the note 3 looks massive on you
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